Dtruthspeaker:


It is Settled that The Lord is Coming after Trouble-lations but the question is, is He Coming Twice after Trouble-lations?

One for rapture as you say and one for Judgement? Or

Is it for Judgement Only? Which is what I am saying.

Kindly check my previous threads.

The Second coming of CHRIST is what marks the end of the tribulation.

At10tion:
so what did you understand from those scriptures!

Did you see that part that of the people beheaded for CHRIST?
I am saying that rapture is AFTER the tribulation. We the children of GOD are going to be tried toowe are going to be around.

Here:
Mathew 24:22
"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

That is scripture, by the way, is another proof that the Elect are very much going to be around during the tribulation.

Do you get it? For the Elects sake,the days of tribulation will be shortened. Because we are going to be around during the tribulation, the days were shortened.

Rapture is AFTER the tribulation!

Dtruthspeaker:


Does this not sound like the end of the world? For do you not consider that the elect is being put aside while the rest shall be Judged to enter lake of Fire?

And that this part you quoted matches with Revelation 1:7

"Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.

Check my other threads
The return of CHRIST, the second time, marks the end of the tribulation.

GOD has also assured us that because of the elect, those days will be cut short.

That, by the way, is another proof that the Elect are very much going to be around during the tribulation.

Mathew 24:22
"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

Do you get it? For the Elects sake,the days of tribulation will be shortened. Because we are going to be around during the tribulation, the days were shortened.

Rapture is AFTER the tribulation!

byinks:


Anyone beheaded will reign with Christ at his return for 1000 years on earth

Glory be to GOD........thank YOU JESUS.

Martian:
The Martyr Selection Commitee:
Current Count

Martyrs: 2

1) Incrizz
2)jesusjnr2020

Lukewarm Christians: 1

1) kobojunkie

This is a serious issue but you made me really laugh lol.
Kobojunkie is he asking you to upgrade?

jesusjnr2020:
Wow!

I can't imagine what it would be like transiting from the worst possible experience to the best.

You summarised it so well, ...from the worst possible experience to the best, wow.

As Children of GOD we need to begin to learn to do what JESUS did, HE didn't focus on the painful journey all HIS years on earth.

Scripture says, WHO for the joy set before HIM endured the cross depising its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Hebrew 12:2

It was on the night when HE was about to be betrayed we learned that HE began to sweat blood. And once HE asked the FATHER for grace, it was granted HIM.

JESUS was flesh through and through.
HE did it.
We have HIS Spirit, we can do it for HIM if it comes to that.

Kobojunkie:
Why thank God that you intend/believe/hope to be beheaded for your belief?

Are you under the impression that there is some special reward or something for those who are matyred in the name of God much like the Muslims believe?

Are you under the impression that there is a "special pass" into heaven for those who are killed "in the line of duty" as "Christians"?

Is there a " special reward" set aside for those who are martyred spoken of by Jesus Christ Himself that we are not aware of?

Let me try to explain the angle I am coming from:
For CHRIST to have brought to my knowledge and understanding that I probably would die this way first of all let's me understand that,

*I have been granted grace to stand through out the tribulation of the saints.
Inspite of the chaos or pain, I am going to stand. I will not receive the mark.
Wow! I stood. Praise be to GOD.

JESUS taught me not to fear those who can destroy only the body, but to fear HIM rather who can destroy both body and soul in hell.
Mathew 10:28

I know I can't do this on my own and I have been praying for HIS help and grace to stand.

So it means I trusted GOD till the end.
Wow, glory be to GOD.

Plus, I have been invited to the marriage supper of THE LAMB. Wow!!!

I think I'm Going To Die By Being Beheaded for the testimony of CHRIST.

Wow, what an honour that GOD would invite me to the marriage super of The Bridegroom, wow.
Thank YOU so much JESUS.

Hehe...don't get me wrong, I will employ every GOD-given skill to ensure I stay alive from the schemes and devices of the antichrist zombies till JESUS returns.

But to get beheaded for the testimony CHRIST, wow what an awesome privilege and grace.
Thank YOU JESUS.
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That the rapture is AFTER the tribulation is clearly stated in Mathew 24.
Kindly see:
https://www.nairaland.com/6058638/rapture-after-tribulation-clearly-stated

twosquare:
Don't waste your time trying to convince them. I was like them 11 years ago until I was doing Holy Ghost study, a personal meeting time with the Holy G. on scriptures when my eyes were opened by Him to the truth. Some of them are still stuck.. They have eyes to read, but won't see because of the indoctrination they have been taught by those who don't know the scriptures themselves.

These type of believers are so afraid of the Man of Sin, and the fake doctrine has conditioned them to be, whereas the company of John dealt with antichrists in their days hands-down. What the early Christians are concerned about is the day of Christ, not the anti-christ, but today's believers are obsessed with the antichrist than the day of christ.

For anyone who cares to listen, the antichrist will be revealed before anything and most will know that this is the man of sin being described. The agenda of the antichrist is not to punish Christians but for them to embrace a life that is anti-God. He has not won if he needs to forcefully make you accept him. YOu need to surrender your will willingly and fall in love. There is nothing special about the anti-christ, but there is something special about Yeshuah.

It is just disheartening that many would have fallen in love with his ideas because what they were expecting about the antichrist is not what they were told, but I trust God to have enlightened eyes before that arrival. All those naija Christian movies and even foreign about the antichrist and rapture are just hocus pocus. To understand the antichrist better, we need to have the eyes of Apostle John & Pauline light. Those are the guys who could x-ray him and tell you the stuff he is made of.

Well done, Incrizz

GOD bless you.
The Holy spirit made me know this too during personal study with HIM.

The indoctrination is deep and the fear of death has really gripped some.
But thanks be to GOD that many shall have the eyes of their understanding opened before the man of sin is revealed .

Trust me dearly beloved of The Most High, you don't want to wait till he is revealed. There is so much grace available today, there is so much love you need to experience from The Father.

HE can give you peace in this crooked and depraved world.
HE said you should come into HIM all ye that labour and are heavy laden.

There is no covenant made on earth or by blood that is stronger than The One made in The Blood of JESUS, HIS blood can break any yoke of the devil.

Guy1979

petra1:



There are many scriptures that shows that rapture is before tribulation

1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.




As seen in verse 2 & 3,
We will be very much around, when the antichrist is revealed



Revelations 20:4
And I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the Word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast, nor his image, nor had received his mark upon their foreheads or on their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years

At10tion:
The scripture is codedly straightforward, and everyone can pick their opinions even as they understands it. And from all I can deduce, The LORD will never leave His bride on earth to pass through the great tribulation.

Revelations 20:4
And I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the Word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast, nor his image, nor had received his mark upon their foreheads or on their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Revelation 3:10, KJV: "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

live4dgospel
UyaiIncomparabl
petra1
nnamdiosu
Oludami1
Anas09

At10tion:
lolz ohh really! Unmh.

Well I'm of a different opinion.
The bride of Christ won't be here during the tribulation.
We'll be having a massive wedding celebration of Christ and His Bride in heaven while the world pass through the tribulation.
When we are through we'll come down to destroy the Anti-Christ and his friends, bind the old serpent and establish God's kingdom on Earth.

You are of a different opinion than of The Bible?
I don't get...

At10tion:
Milady.. How may I be of help to you at this hour.

I thought you might be interested in the initial post on this thread...

At10tion

obonujoker:
I thank God many people eyes are beginning to open to the wiles of the devil.

However many people are still arguing instead of following the Bible!

Isn't it amazing!?
They argue GOD's Word instead of humbly submitting?
No true child of GOD, whether born again or yet to be born again would do that.

MistadeRegal:
You got it.
Many are still confused about this and are ready to argue it to their last energy, while not knowing nor accepting they're wrong about it.

I have come to realise that they do know the truth but deny it.
They are actively working for the devil or have demons speaking through them

Roycemadeit

Trajan:

What does this mean, Op?

You mean the two names?

At10tion
Job2004

ogododo:


https://www.thecable.ng/no-more-35-fg-to-slash-levy-on-imported-cars-to-5/amp

GOD bless the FG for this policy.
Kindly implement it quick.
Cost of transportation, and not just fuel, is the major factor affecting food prices.

Innoson Motors are just too expensive.
How many people can afford it??

In order to protect just one car manufacturer or two, in the whole of the Country, millions have been made to suffer.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, Jesus Christ, did say Pray without ceasing.. but did He say you should ignore His other commandments so you can "pray without ceasing"? If you, like the Pharisees, ignore obeying His other commandments, just so you can focus on what you want to focus on, are you really in obedience to Him?

Pray without ceasing for this is the will of GOD in CHRIST JESUS concerning you.

2 Timothy 1:12
".... and I am persuaded that HE is able to keep that which I have committed unto HIM against that day."


Therefore LORD, we commit the Protests into YOUR able hands. We ask for a better Nigeria.
Take absolute control in JESUS name.

Kobojunkie:
Unfortunately my dear, those who told you that "Prayer is the master key" lied to you, for that claim is not according to God Himself. From the beginning, the one thing that God has called for, and continues to this day to do, is call for your Obedience.
Jesus Christ came to give the world eternal life (to all those who believe Him) but promised Heaven to only those who will obey God's commandments. not to those who pray. The key to the promise that God has through Jesus Christ is obedience, not prayer.

Children of GOD whose report will you believe?

We shall believe the report of The LORD.

And what does HIS report say?

HIS report says,

"PRAY, without ceasing!"

jesusjnr2020:
"Oh God of creation

Direct our noble cause

Guide our leaders right

Help our youth the truth to know

In love and honesty to grow

And living just and true

Great lofty heights attain

To build a nation where peace

And justice shall reign. Amen!"

Amen and amen.
FATHER take absolute control in JESUS name.

The whole multitude of Israel departed from Egypt orchestrated by GOD.

What is happening in Nigeria today is not new to GOD

FATHER in Heaven take absolute control of these Protests in JESUS name, amen.

We shall get the Nigeria of our dreams; a land of justice, peace and progress for all in JESUS name.

We bind every blood sucking demons against this protest in JESUS name.

jesusjnr2020:
Yeah! Atheist climes like the US.

Continue deceiving yourself.

Oh! He's atheist.
Okay, I understand better now.

Kobojunkie:
Judge? God already judged these things as vanity. From Genesis to Revelation, the key to getting anything from God has been declared from the beginning as Obedience. Prayer is meant as a side-effect. Not as a solution in and of itself.

Prayer is the master key and you cannot prevail against it.
We are Christians and we shall pray.

Dear FATHER in Heaven may your presence go with all the innocent lives on the street.
We reject bloodshed in JESUS name. Amen

Kobojunkie:
The hordes of Hell? Are you for real? The hordes you speak of are some of those who you call on to pray for Nigeria.

Here's the Truth that is Jesus Christ. You will pray from now till the end but never see a change in Nigeria -- not until you each begin to realize and accept that your prayers remain in vain, until you start to do as He commands, i.e. Obey. Prayer is not the key to getting answers from God, Obedience is, and God will never change His rules for you or Nigeria, no matter how many times you "beseech" Him with your prayers.

All these things you wrote cannot stop any child of GOD from praying to HIS FATHER.

Things change for good in Nigeria in JESUS name, amen.
Our prayers are not in vain in JESUS name, amen.

Prayer is the key, the master key.
Therefore, we have whatsoever we ask of HIM in JESUS name, amen.

GOD HIMSELF is JUDGE.

We shall pray; GOD is in control.

Kobojunkie:
Pray? Why? Nigerian Christians seem to pray more than any other person on this planet, yet nothing ever seems to happen right in the country, after all. Why not try doing something else for a change?

Nigerian Christians shall continue to pray and the hordes of hell shall not prevail against them in JESUS name.

*Children of GOD we can't afford to go to bed without praying for the protests, Nigeria and Nigerians at this time.
Pick verses of Scriptures and input Nigeria's name in there.

PRAY. The effectual fervent prayer of the righteous availeth much.

Bind every blood sucking demon in JESUS name, amen

Dialogue over bloodshed.

Save your own soul from damnation.

aspiring44:



Prayer is always the best and key that unlock so many things .
One's personal encounter with Jesus is the best conviction. .
I pray that God should help people that has a defect in their spiritual eyes .

I experienced a storm this time last year and I turned to Jesus and there was a still . God of restoration has been restoring .
I will Never give up .

Thanks be to GOD who will always make you to triumph in CHRIST JESUS.

One thing I have noticed is that the harder the trial, and you overcome, the harder you and your faith becomes.
And hence more and more wins.

GOD is so awesome.