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What if the area I intend to install it is already at capacity?

EPL title done and dusted for Arsenal, champions league next.

It's in the blood; the average Nigerian is blinded by religious, tribal, and stomach infrastructure sentiments.

An investment is basically allocating time, money, energy, or resources today with the expectation of getting a better outcome in the future. The returns does not always have to be cash directly.

A person exercising and eating well is investing in his health and longevity.
A person learning a skill or trade is investing in himself for a better future. You paying for your child's school fees today, will be considered investing in him, for a brighter future.

Investing is way bigger and broader than buying assets, stocks, treasury bills and what have you. To each his own people prioritize different kinds of returns from their investments . some may prioritize income growth, others may prioritize stability, knowledge, family, health, human capital, etc.

Ogbeni bridge dey your location? Help yourself u hear? Every body na evil doers to you except your lazy self.

Newlight777:
You are placing too much weight on the citizens while downplaying the influence of power structures. Yes, citizens have responsibility, but leadership sets the tone of a nation. When institutions are weak, laws are selective, poverty is weaponized, education is neglected, and justice is compromised, people adapt to survive inside that environment.

The average citizen does not control the police, judiciary, economy, military, electoral system, oil wealth, or national budget. Politicians do. That is why leadership failure has wider consequences than individual moral failure.

You mentioned corruption in civil service, hospitals, and police stations. But ask yourself who supervises those institutions, who appoints their heads, who funds them poorly, and who protects corrupt networks when they are politically connected. Corruption at the bottom often survives because corruption at the top protects it.

As for people supporting bad leaders through tribe or religion, that did not start in a vacuum. Political elites deliberately built and sustained those divisions for decades because division keeps people emotionally manipulated and easier to control.

Your examples about Ibori and Ekweremadu actually strengthen the argument against the system. Why did justice work faster abroad than in Nigeria? Because stronger institutions reduce the ability of powerful people to influence outcomes. That points back to leadership and governance failure.

And no, not everyone would become corrupt if offered power. That argument assumes integrity does not exist. There are still people who reject bribes, refuse political compromise, and speak against injustice despite pressure.

The citizens have faults, yes. But when the people are constantly failed by weak institutions, poor governance, propaganda, intimidation, poverty, and selective justice, the greater burden still rests on those who hold power and shape the system.

For it has nothing to do with the people, to the people having no choice because politicians weapon used porvery to now placing too much weight on the people.
Talking about institutions, who are the people that makes up these institutions?
Did the police man who killed the Warri guy without any form of investigation or court sentence received a kill other from the politicians? Do you think if the citizens all say no to corruption, politicians will have a choice? Starting to feel I'm arguing with a bot.

Newlight777:
The problem with this argument is that it quietly shifts the full weight of national failure onto ordinary people while minimizing the power of systems, institutions, and leadership structures that shape everyday life.

Yes, individuals make choices. Yes, corruption exists among citizens too. But pretending personal responsibility alone explains national collapse ignores how deeply systems control opportunity, education, security, electricity, healthcare, wages, law enforcement, and economic stability.

India did not transform because millions of citizens suddenly became morally superior overnight. India invested aggressively in infrastructure, technology, manufacturing, education, energy expansion, and institutional reforms over decades. Systems changed first, then productivity and citizen outcomes improved. Strong systems multiply the efforts of good citizens. Broken systems frustrate even responsible people.

The example of a minister stealing billions actually strengthens the systemic argument, not weakens it. A society where one individual can allegedly divert ₦33B reflects institutional collapse at multiple levels:
weak accountability,
weak prosecution culture,
weak auditing,
weak enforcement,
weak political consequences,
and a population conditioned to survive rather than trust institutions.

When corruption becomes normal for decades, people begin defending criminals through tribe, religion, party loyalty, or survival instincts because the system itself has destroyed confidence in justice. That is not merely a “people problem.” It is social conditioning produced by years of institutional failure.

Saying “we are our own problem” sounds emotionally satisfying, but it oversimplifies reality. A farmer without electricity, a graduate without jobs, a child in a collapsing school system, or a citizen living under inflation and insecurity is not operating from the same starting point as someone inside a functional economy.

Human behavior is heavily shaped by environment. Put people under broken systems long enough and survival begins replacing long term thinking. That is why nations with strong institutions consistently produce better outcomes even though human nature is flawed everywhere on Earth.

The same Nigerians succeeding abroad are not suddenly transformed into different species. They function better because systems abroad reward productivity more consistently, punish corruption more effectively, and provide stable infrastructure.

Citizens absolutely have responsibility. But leadership and systems carry greater responsibility because they shape the conditions under which millions live and make choices. Blaming citizens alone while ignoring systemic failure is like blaming passengers for a crashing aircraft while excusing the pilots and engineers.

You are just shifting the goalpost up and down, and this argument is no longer worth it for me. Initially, you said it had nothing to do with the people and that politicians were weaponizing poverty. I made it very clear to you that it has everything to do with the people, not just the politicians. The Tinubus and Wikes of today are nothing without the people.

I am not excusing the politicians. Rather, I am saying that a major part of the blame goes to the citizens. James Ibori was acquitted of corruption charges in Nigeria but was convicted of the same corruption charges in the UK. If it had happened only in Nigeria, Ike Ekweremadu would probably still be contesting for Senate or even president today. Were the people who delivered those judgments politicians?

Go to our civil service and see the corruption happening openly. Visit our public hospitals, police stations, courts, and road safety offices, and you will witness corruption firsthand. Even you, claiming to be righteous now, would probably start giving us a thousand reasons why APC is the best thing that ever happened to Nigeria if you were offered a ministerial position.

We had religious leaders and Nobel laureates who protested heavily during the GEJ administration, constantly complaining about how bad the country was. Is the country better today or worse? Are those religious leaders still alive today, and are they politicians?

I will say it again: we are our own problem. The earlier you accept that harsh reality, the better for you.

God1000:
Hmm, america is indeed a finished country, we are witnessing the collapse of an empire


Only the delusional, misguided and brainwashed Nigerian supporters continue to worship the leader of this country

Fulani terrorists has been murdering people in your Benue state for years, till date the murder continues, but Na USA matter who doesn't know about your existence dey pain you up and down. To you America has been collapsing since 2017. Can you and your own family, if you have any live in your home Benue state?

helinues:
Learn to engage others maturely and stop sounding incoherently on my threads

See old man at 50 still struggling ove 30k stipends talking about maturity, the standard of measurement for zobeism on NL is talking about maturity. Aren't you ashamed of yourself?

Why are you are you bothered are you part of the opposition, why cry more than the bereaved? The opposition is more worried about the VICTORY IS SURE INEC chairman's X comment.

If I tell you interviews and first to act bot script wey these useless Nigeria networks do make me miss, you go cry for me. The worst thing is starlink residential plan is at capacity in my location. You are responsible for your electricity, security, health, now Internet connection don add join.
Being a Nigerian living in Nigeria is a punishment.

Newlight777:
Personal responsibility matters, but pretending systems do not influence people is intellectual dishonesty. A man can rise above hardship, yet hardship still remains a weapon when leaders intentionally preserve it.

System matters, but acting like people are powerless without perfect conditions is equally dishonest. Hardship may create obstacles, yet individuals still make choices within those conditions. If systems were the deciding factor alone nobody would ever rise against them.

In 1993, India was number 1 on the list of countries with households without access to electricity, Nigeria was around 3 - 5, as at 2025 India is not even on top 12 of that list, while Nigeria is now on number 1 on that same list.

A former minister of power, who was a businessman already making money before politics, was recently convicted for over ₦33B fraud was it porverty that made him stole such huge amount of money? People will still defend that minister with their lives, that he is being victimised, and framed, not because they are poor or hungry. We are our own problems, we gave these politicians the signals that we are vulnerable to exploitations of any sort be it stomach infrastructure or otherwise. It's a bitter pill but we must swallow it.

Dreaming is allowed, How I wish this your dreams go be reality.

Nigerians don't need antidepressants, depression is a way of life here now. The slogan is " who kill himself Na him lose". The popular of diagnosing mental disorder in Nigeria, is when you start walking along the road aimlessly, some go still even say you dey form.

Newlight777:
Yes, some people support corrupt politicians because of tribe, religion, personal gain, fear, or blind loyalty. That is true. But that does not remove the fact that poverty remains one of the strongest weapons used against the people.

A hungry population is easier to manipulate.
A desperate man will defend the same system destroying him if survival depends on it.

When jobs are scarce, people become politically dependent.
When education collapses, critical thinking weakens.
When citizens struggle daily for food, fuel, rent, and survival, many stop fighting for principles and start fighting for immediate relief.

The politicians understand this system perfectly.

They know poverty creates emotional voters instead of informed citizens.
They know tribal division blinds people from accountability.
They know religious manipulation can silence questioning.
They know stomach infrastructure can buy temporary loyalty.

So yes, some citizens enable bad leadership, but the environment of hardship makes manipulation far easier.

Not every Nigerian is poor, but enough people are economically pressured for exploitation to thrive politically.

A nation where millions are financially stable, educated, independent, and economically empowered becomes difficult to control through propaganda, tribalism, and token handouts.

The harsh truth is this:
The people gave room, but the politicians built the cage wider.

Both accountability and manipulation exist together.
Ignoring either one hides the full problem.

There will always be excuses for failure. He who is comfortable in failure will always blame everybody but himself.

Newlight777:
Who are the people, the people that have been brainwashed through the weapon of poverty?

Not all are brainwashed with porverty, all Nigerians are not poor, there are those who are supporting these politicians for religious, tribal, and other reasons. The harsh reality is the people have the politicians the room to be exploited.

Newlight777:
It's about the politicians bros, it has nothing to do with the people

It has everything to do with the people. The politicians are nothing without the people. The politicians are donating cups of rice, bags of salt, and so many other nonsense items because there are people ready to collect these things and sing their praises to high heavens. My neighbour wey dey swear for APC everyday don suddenly carry APC campaign for head, because him brother dey run for Delta state house of assembly. Nigerians are the problems of Nigeria not her politicians.

Fuckyoumod:
go and learn how to make rational comments in public space.

The man is saying the truth about this useless govt. And you are linking him up to Tinubu.

If your brain no get fault is APC as a party not useless, was the previous APC government not useless, was Amaechi not among those who imposed APC on Nigerians, what good has the party of which he was a founding member brought to Nigeria as a country? So he has suddenly become a saint and truth Sayer, some of una need serious beating to put una brains to default settings.

The comedy session has begin. I will pack Nigerians poo, I will feed each Nigerian 3 times a day, I will do this, I will do that don start. Those wey suffer dey sweet like sugar, oya the floor is yours.

Fuckyoumod:
Go and sit down.

Amaechi never hid is disdain for Tinubu's incompetence from the beginning.

He never supported Tinubu any day!

Go learn how to read and understand, or tell chatgpt to Elim5 my comment for you.

Where you not once part of them, E no favour you now, you wan claim better person pot calling kettle black. Ogbeni start to distribute laptops and phones.

Welcome to Nigeria where even the abnormal is considered normal. Samething you complained of is what we are facing in my area in Sapele too. In my area we have vowed not to pay bills to NEPA until we recoup the money spent on Transformers, wires, electric poles, and meters acquisition. We plan on taking them to court. But dem don vex off our light for straight 3 days now. Being a Nigerian living in Nigeria without money is a punishment and crime against humanity.

GoodBoi1:
Hello. Please can starlink be activated in lagos? I have MTN fibrex but the network downtime is making me to question the reliability of the service.

If residential plan is not available in Delta state, how much more Lagos state? una still get hope with fibrex. Internet connection dey follow us keep enemy for my area in Delta state.

Osho humbled Ruffai.

Yes oh very versatile and reliable, Camry and Corolla no get mates. Any mechanic dey repair them, even cut and join capital go repair am. Low brightness headlights issues made me dump my pencil light in 2017, till date who I sell that car to still dey flex am.

You go explain tire, still ogun go kee you and ur context there.

Englishisamust:
How bro, that is impossible bro. Do you know how much they are selling building materials now?? Hope you know one bag of cement is now 12k or are you playing

If you reason the cost of building materials you will not build a house. I built my first house with a salary of #120k monthly, though it took over 4 years. But in same condition I will not try that again.

Building a house should not be the first target if you are earning below #1m monthly, and not doing a government job, not because you can't build a house with such pay. But because there are better alternatives that will give you good returns than owning a house.
You should focus more on investing in yourself (skills, business)