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*Kails*:
well lookie here!

https://www.nairaland.com/646049/nigerian-igbo-african-american/44#18650787

*Kails*:
PAUSE!!

>> I AM JAMAICAN << I know MY people and our history.
My issue was and IS with you claiming I am trying to ignore ties which is probably the dumbest thing
you have said on this thread. What I am saying is, (as I proved the other day) that everything is not always what it seems.

I said that to other nlders a long time ago when we discussed "yoruba" brazil - was consistent
I said that to bigfrancis - was consistent
I am saying it to YOU NOW and am still standing by it.



obviously.
however what does that have to do with looks?!



Hold up....

[size=18pt]"Check my posts I said Beenie man had strong Akan features."[/size]

You implied that there is an akan look sir, those are YOUR words...

Remember it's because of your flip flopping why we are having this conversation in the first place, guy.

My post earned me 2 likes because ppl saw that I stood by what I said YESTERDAY and the DAY BEFORE.
You cannot look at someone and assume they come from somewhere or a tribe.



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WHEN DID I SAY THERE WAS NO RESEMBLANCE? OH! you're one of "those".

hmmmm...
For the last time, I said you cannot look at someone and assume that they come from one region or tribe.
THAT is what I said and unlike YOU, i have stood by that.

Of course we are going to have some physical traits of our fore parents...that's our BLOOD we are talking about
however a lot of times when we look like other ppl it's due to coincidence. THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING. That is what I have ALWAYS said on this thread. You not only used the name of a tribe but tried to justify it talking about the maroons when beenie is not a maroon and even fulaman said he could even pass as fulani.

*Kails*:
you did not know that.

*Kails*:
interesting you say that considering RITA MARLEY'S MOTHER (BIRTH MOTHER) WAS A MIXED CUBAN

*Kails*:
-first of all maroons are not all the same.
BEING OF MAROON DESCENT, I am not asking you that.
there are maroon communities all throughout the island...

-some of them actually raided slave plantations, took in the slaves they captured
and integrated them into their societies by way of marriage.

-Speaking of which some maroons WERE mixed - with the Tainos.

-being akan does not mean homogeneity sir.

-some maroons speak twi while others speak coromantee which is also mixed
with other african languages (and even european) and others speak
dialects that are more bantu in influence than akan..not to mention their
cultures are more central african than west (hence kumina and the likes).

-as far as looks, even in africa all akan ppl do NOT look alike lol.

-it's very rare to meet a PURE maroon outside of the island
heck most don't even like living in the cities in jamaica. So please don't try
to use maroons to claim Jamaicans look more Akan than any other group.

*Kails*:
hmmmm

who said anything about "pretending" there was no link?

answer that.

also i just spent an entire day not too long ago
EXPLAINING how not one cannot go by FEATURES ALONE
as even interracial mixing can influence one's facial features...

last time i checked a certain someone cosigned to that...lolz
so don't come here a few days later and act like you can just look at someone
and tell they are from an area. furthermore

i can post west africans from different countries and you probably won't be able
to tell where they came from.

I don't flip flop buddy.

Royal^^Pearl^^:
^^ You have a point.

Royal^^Pearl^^:
Fante,Ewe, Hausa

Black Kenichi: Sort of. Go on youtube and type in "Jamaican Mento" and listen for yourself.

Royal^^Pearl^^:
Lol

Royal^^Pearl^^:
You should check this out to see diverse looks
https://www.nairaland.com/1042951/beauty-ghanaian-women/97#18700740

Fulaman198: I'm sure that most African Americans believe they will have a multitude of ethnic groups Akan, Igbo, Fulani, Wolof, Serer, Bini, Mande, etc. etc. There were hundreds of ethnic groups that came from Africa to the Americas.

*Kails*:
here we go with the skin color and claiming jamaicans look like one ppl crap.

Fulaman198: Well even if they are lighter-complexioned, they are still black. Most people in general assume that to be African you must be super dark. This rule does not even apply to South Sudan which have the darkest people in the world. Anyways I will not derail this thread any longer. A good portion of African Americans came from what is today Senegambia, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, etc. a few from Angola as well. It is really hard to determine where African Americans are from unless they take a DNA test. Physical appearance alone will not tell them where their ancestors originate from.

Fulaman198: You have to understand one thing, Fulani are not only Nigerian by nationality. They can be from any West African country, Sierra Leone, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Gambia, Senegal, Niger, Mali, Mauritania, Benin, Togo, Liberia, etc. etc. A lot are in France and Belgium (those from francophone countries), as a matter of fact, there are huge Fulani communities in those countries that they have a Tabital Pulaagu meetup group setup there. In the United States, most Fulani live in New York and other large cities. However, those Fulani tend to be from Senegal or Guinea.

Royal^^Pearl^^:
Lol It's because i am light-skinned and they believe all Ghanaians are dark

Royal^^Pearl^^:
Are you Jamaican or African American?

Royal^^Pearl^^:
Lol but maybe there are Fulani's but you do not recognise them as such. When i first came on Nairaland i was told i do not look like a "Ghanaian" and one further said that he has never seen a Ghanaian who looked liked me . Anyways i said it's because of his perception. If he was out in the street and saw me, he wold not think am Ghanaian so there are also other Ghanaians who he would not recognised since he already has a perception of how we all look.

Fulaman198: Even with the Akans, you can see how diverse they are. That is why I say West Africans physically speaking do not look much different unless if you are talking about nomads (who tend to be thinner).

Now if we look at Sedentary Fulani vs. Nomadic Fulani, you will see a difference in body structure (Nomadic Fulani are more slim because they are more active) despite diets being nearly identical.

Fulaman198: I could post several but what is the point. Even Fulani people have different kinds of lucks from Senegal to Sudan, because like Kails has said, overtime. All West Africans have 1 common root ancestor, that is why the languages are all classified as Niger-Congo. I'm surprised you would say you don't think so when I myself am a Fulani man.

Fulaman198: The thing is that the Akan are an ethnic group and they are closely related to Ashanti people.

Fulaman198: This guy could pass as a Fulani man too

Royal^^Pearl^^:
^^ So you saying Akans look the same

Fulaman198: West Africa in general it is hard to tell ethnic groups apart. The thing that differentiates ethnic groups are the following

1. Accent (most importantly)
2. Ethnic marks (some ethnic groups in the village still use them like mine)
3. Ethnic dressing

Those are the 3 major ones.

Radoillo: I still can't tell Nigerians from Ghanaians. (Am I not looking closely enough?) Its easier with East and Southern Africans though.

Radoillo: There probably isn't. But then I know next to nothing about DNA and genetic markers and all that.

Radoillo: In my experience, it appears chubby cheeks and prominent lips + comparatively darker skin and somewhat prominent eyeballs are stereotyped as Yoruba features. My cousin has those and people are always mistaking her for a Yoruba girl.

But there are thousands and thousands of Yorubas who don't answer to that description. Just like there are thousands of Igbos who don't look 'stereotypically' Igbo (eg, my cousin).

Personally, the way I tell the two groups apart is by tribal marks (if they have any) or by their accents (again if they speak with one). Otherwise, I just ask them.