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iamoyindamola:
No tactics
If arteta have the best players he will still be clueless on how to use them
What he does is we score first and hope on insha'Allah if not he doesn't have the intelligence of turning games around

Hahaha No tactics Ke. You dey vex oh. So you are of the opinion that Arteta is not qualified to lead Arsenal moving on.

So let's talk a bit on tactics.

Watching this Arsenal side for most of the season and majorly throughout Arteta's reign so far, it's hard to see where the ideology lies.

Are we a pressing team or do we want to contain.

A proper press ensures that the motion of all attacking and midfield players are channeled in a synchronized manner towards the opponents ball retention or distribution area. This motion automatically ensures that at the time the opponent makes that pass to the receiving player, all our players aforementioned have already closed down every option that the receiving player has to distribute the ball to.

I have watched enough of this current side to conclude that the pressing is poor. Is it a case of personell or a case of the coach ? I'll let us answer those questions

As per containing, in my own analogy and how I have played the game, you can contain in three areas of the pitch . The attacking the mid and the defensive third of the pitch where you have all your players in a defensive formation spread across and then shuffling from one end to the other whilst maintaining the defensive shape.

One thing no team wants when containing is to be doing it in their own defensive third. This is a recipe for loss as it becomes more difficult as the game goes on to escape without conceeding.

Unfortunately this side tends to find themselves trying to contain teams in the defensive third more than often which is no surprise in the reflection is some of our results even against lowly teams .

Again I'll leave it to us to debate on if this assessment is true or not and what could be the cause and probable solution .

Sometimes we can only wonder why Arsenal as a club remains struggling to get back to the apex of footballing heights. Manchester City already won the league and imho are even almost done with their transfer business and will soon focus on pre-season plans in a bid to ensure continuity of success. Even spurs are showing serious signs by tying down conte and wasting no time to approve funds for his transfer plans which they have already begun and finalized some deals.

Alas , Arsenal albeit given the circumstances managed to finish fifth are still dilly dallying in transfer plans. We have yet to even nail down any prospect amidst uncertainty of funds at hand or not. This leaves little or less to be desired and one can not be optimistic going into the new season even though as fans our hearts want to believe.

Sometimes you wonder if truly the people at the helm want this club to move forward. Serious clubs after a disappointing campaign immediately move to correct their errors and ensure success in the forthcoming season depending on the targets set.

But I'm just struggling to see any signs to see that seriousness at arsenal right now. We have not even come down to technical and tactical improvement on the pitch which is still clearly lacking.

Phew!!!! Hope it's not another long season all over again.

Roland17:
You would rather question the credibility of a young player than the fact that Arsenal led by your ego maniac manager mismanaged him for 3 consecutive seasons? This kid lost both parents, both freaking parents when he was 19 and at Arsenal, what did your EGOMANIAC coach do? He never had a single conversation with the kid, have you met a 19 year old who lost both parents right around the same time?

Arteta told us he wasn’t good enough for the first team, subsequently banished the kid to the U23 to train because he asked for a fair chance to play, he finally moves to France, had another terrific season, instrumental in his team finishing 2nd and qualifying for the same UCL we choked, wins Lique 1 young player of the season and instead of real encouragement, you are here defending Arteta with your fake hope that he pans out right because you want him to fail so you can say “he was all noise”

Out of the blue Arteta is now convinced the kid must return to Arsenal! Throughout his time in France there was no check in! Other teams send their coaching reps, even the head coach finds time to watch their best players on loan, no be us! I remember the early days under Wenger when he would leave to watch his best players on loan. The cameras always caught Wenger in the stands watching one of his young guns, so he can properly assess the player..If na you how you go feel? Yet every one of Arteta’s defenders are interested in what Saliba says, how he says it.. To hell with all of you! Arteta has just as much to prove as this kid.

You can continue to protect your Egocentric maniac but don’t think for a second that I will let it fly on this thread!!

Hmmm this one vex you small oh. But truth be told the kid never had a fair chance.

Jodera:
Spy360, Sod09, Mostob, Fkhalifa, daveP, Lush100, Obalgwe, Blueraydick, Jencejyde, Kodded, Kokanepyramid

Say no more Bro! The analysis is simply on point. Much later I would like to engage in our overall play as a team this season tactics wise

Sadly after the first phase I just decided to go do something else only to start the second and a goal down which is not surprising given how we have played.

Truth be told, the team have done their best but it's a long road for this team. Hopefully they can still get their targets but in all honesty Europa is the best we deserve given out performances.

All we needed was a performance but no one showed up when. It mattered most and the coach was not able to inspire anything tactically. Sad but still yet they did well enough to meet the target of a place in Europe

50d33q:
Nketiah abeg sign extension
Forgive me

Lol

Absolutely brilliant first 15 mins of the half . Kudos to the Ladd's for a fast start. This phase of football matches are crucial and the game could be won already . The key here is now to gain balance of control till the very last phase where you see out the result.

This is the consistency we want week in week out and commendable that the team is showing this mentality to rise to the occasion with the right attitude

Salute to Eddie for taking his chance brilliantly when called upon.

We are not there yet but this is the step in the right direction.

fredoooooo:
Una no hj ever ever ever and ever see this , forever and ever ...AMEN !!!

You sha dey like look for trouble.... ;We go soon pursue you comot here patapata...

johnjunior39:
I am more concerned about red card in NLD cos both teams need result in that game

True!! It's gonna be a fierce affair which is expected. More like a cup final with everything on the line.

It's loud on the Man U Thread oh,

I expect the team phycologist to be in heads of our players right now given the dropped points from Chelsea.

We need to stay consistent and start positively as always. Now is not the time for any sluggish or below par performance from anyone.

I just fear that injuries may have it's toll on the boys physically especially key players, but the attitude and mentality must remain.

COYG!

The other day I was watching Man u and was disgusted that a 37 year old Ronaldo was busting his guts making runs offensively and defensively and a certain rashford and Sancho were just jogging all over the pitch.

Some of these players do not understand that football comes with discipline of the highest order for you to not only succeed but remain successful. Plus your active years begin to wind down fast if you have not achieved anything soon enough.

I just hope and pray that our own young lads do not get carried away and remain focused until they get to the level where they start winning laurels consistently. I also commend the coaching staff for weeding away bad influence from the team so that their growth is not stunted attitude and mentality wise.

mostob:
If this is true... Arteta deserves apology

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Lol I think a management standpoint analogy was made here on Auba's case which I must commend the contributor.

Arteta is definitely not the best coach in the world but his standpoint on discipline as regarding Auba was 100 percent on point.

We talk about attitude and mentality all the time and this revolves around our everyday lives as well. You cant say because you are the highest earner and in form , that now gives you the right to behave unruly. Pride goes before a fall and all he had to do then was apologize to his team mates and correct his attitude. It's this same attitude that spirals unto the pitch of play and before you know it, the person loses everything.

I for one do not condone any form of Indiscipline and rightly so should any coach if he wants to be in charge of his team.

I wish Auba the best and cannot forget what he has done for Arsenal in a hurry but sincerely hope he can get it together and focus on football with the right attitude on and off the pitch for his own sake.

Spy360:
Man City lost because they have a poor defensive game plan.

That's one area I praise Arteta, leading 1-0 by 80mins, he would send in Holding and that's game over.

Pep could have done the same, but he has no defensive game plan. That goes back to the philosophy of attack winning you games but defense ensures the title.

You begin with good attack but can only go far by good defending.

Lol na real wahala you wan start but lots of sense here . It was a crucial game and all that was needed was the art of defending to close out which man city did not do. I also felt they were too overconfident when they started making their subs taking out offensive threats which was kind of an insult to a 13 time winner of the champions league.

Well pep won't change and I expect this to happen to his team time and again until he too learns to adjust to conditions at times.

The fast start was crucial and credit to the team for the excellent first phase of the game where they punished a sluggish united which in the end made all the difference. Shout to Eddie for another brilliant display upfront and my hats off to Cedric again.

Consistency is what is needed and they are doing that right now. I expect them to now focus on the next game taking the positives of a fast start into perspective. Until the job of securing the champs league spot is done, there is no room for lackadaisical attitude.

The funny thing was that there were periods where united dominated especially in the second half but the damage had already been done and tough luck to them on the penalty loss which we capitalised on.

Shey Ramsdale dey work for MC Oluomo no? Why his he warning odegard like that for a small misplaced pass.

Tavarez should be taken off, he has lost concentration

Spy360:
You see why I said someone like you have to be on this thread consistently? Bros if you disapear again, I won't take it lightly with you.

Hahaha. I hear you bros.

Motm for me was Cedric. The attitude he brought into the game in that second half is what we are asking for. He literally ended any hopes of Chelsea on that right side . He was making runs and tackles .

This is not exactly whom you'd call a top player but on the night he came into that match when. Called upon with the right mentality. Same as Martinelli.

Great Response but now is the time for consistency. This same attitude and mentality should be taken into the next game.

Spy360:
Bros let's hold our peace before Jodera calls us Attitude FC

50d33q:
Mehn this is the most useless scummies squad I have ever seen.
They are not even trying

That part of, "They are not even trying" is what pains the most. How on earth do you go out to play and not even make an effort .

These are the kind of performances that makes fans irate. . Those Liverpool players looked tired but the desire to bust a gut was the difference, they are real earners of their salaries.

These are the tapes that need to be played on auto replay to our players to know what it means to show desire and bring the right attitude from. Minute one till 90.

The mentality and attitude from anyone who starts has to be top notch. Unfortunately unless proven wrong, it's hard to see where that comes from right now.

Men...the start from Liverpool though. I hope our boys are watching what it means to start fast while opponents are still trying to settle plus the title on the line. Also a nice touch from the fans towards Ronaldo.

mostob:
Due to the construction of new stadium (Emirates) Wenger wanted to assist the board to generate funds through selling of players... that's when he started aiming for top 4 and not the big price since all he wanted was the qualification and participation bonus. That's how out mentality started declining.

Nailed it. This period when Wenger started saying top four was the priority was where I lost respect for a man that had done so much. He totally took out the philosophy of a winning mentality to aim for the top prize and started focusing on making us just participants. His delving into management rather that focusing on the football was were he lost it and unfortunately the club as a whole went downwards.

Nothing beats right mentality and attitude on match day. I was watching Real Madrid vs Sevilla the other day. This was a team that just played a gruelling encounter vs Chelsea to qualify for the next phase of the champions league and were losing 2 0 away to Sevilla. The most inspiring part was that they even had a goal rulled out by var but rather than moan or complain about it. They just kept at it and ended up winning that match 3 2.

It was same benzema, modric vicinius et all that put their bodies on the line with little or no recovery time to go out there and deliver yet another performance.

That win ultimately takes care of Laliga.

Our players really do not know what is at stake and I'm not sure even the coaching staff has what it takes to get them over the line.

Why should we still be talking about leadership almost 13 years going now? Can the club not really look into their recruiting to see how they can not only buy quality but also the one that possess leadership qualities in lieu of eradicating the problem or leadership completely?

Well for now it's just to enjoy the games and hope for the best even though imho getting top four or even deserving it on evidence of our performances lately is not justifiable.

Jodera:
That's what's even pissing me off and the worst part is that he's even aiming for goals for the free kicks we had. If that's not enough, the players are even shaking him for even going for goal. The less Said about his stupid corner the better.

Another thing is that why did Saka and martinelli change wing? Sometimes eh, Arteta decision Is just baffling

Sometimes you just shake your head for this team. You mean all week, that we had to prepare against Southampton, this is the best we can give? Southampton is not even pressing us like other teams do and yet no urgency . At this rate and if being sincere, we don't deserve champions league football is this is the kind of performance we want to put up.

Why is Cedric taking setpieces when we have one of the best deadball technicians in Odegarrd on the pitch? Something's in this team amazes me. Look at Ward Prowses Setpieces compared to Cedric's and the difference is huge. Nothing to panic about but intensity has to be better in the second half. Southampton are not pressing but just trying to contain and break on the counter which has allowed us more time and space but these guys need to make it count by forcing more movement and increasing the tempo in the attacking third

Good start to the first phase but need to cut out mistakes . Still do not understand whether we aim to press or contain ? Cos if it pressing then it's a terrible one where only one person goes while others are lagging way behind

Spy360:
All your options are good and may work only if the attitude is right.

The players needs to come out sharp and determined to win that match. If not, na another lamenting

100 percent Talk.

Jodera:
I feel that's the bolded. Lacazette is hardly a box that shuttles around in and around the box. He always love to involve himself In things. Also I think his fitness level is not that great. Wenger mostly sub him when he was our coach while Emery makes him hardly completes 90min. Also you note that Ligue 1 is different from premier League in terms of intensity during Laca time there

I think what Arteta is doing is that his just trying to maximize the best out of Lacazette by just telling him to do what he does best (linking up play and pressing from front) while the goalscoring is shared between him and his co-attackers.
Unfortunately, Laca forgot his duties as 9 and also what he's supposed to do.

I won't blame Arteta for wanting to make Laca being a creator as well as goalscoring after all that's how Kane became more rounded and what Pep initially asked of Aguero. Just that seems not to fit the bill again plus his at the Wrong side of age.

I raise my hands up now for his matter, we need another person even if na Nketiah or Martinelli. Maybe bench 2-3weeks go reset am

Astute! But this one spy is blaming you for Laca matter , e get as e be oh...

I'm struggling to understand the instructions given to Laca. If he is to play the CF role, then he should be doing more shuttles in and around the 18yard rather than coming way outside the yard into midfield to get into play.

Unless it's what the manager has instructed , then it's not helping his game at all. I remember when Laca was in Lyon and was playing the CF role with aplumb but it seems either he is asked to play it differently or he lacks the fitness levels to do those runs in and around.

A CF must have pure instinct and technique before anything else, fitness and understanding of the role may alter performance but ultimately the instinct and technique will prevail if consistent.

I can understand why we wanted that guy that went to Juve. The guy is something else with technique and instinct.

Well it all goes back to the board and the decision to let Auba go without getting a decent backup. It's a shame really and unless Laca just finds form out of nowhere then it's a long road

50d33q:
How can you Stan atlectico after the negative football in the first leg
The truth is they only played a good half out of 4 halves, is that good enough
By your analysis of first and 2nd 15minutes don't you think you are contradicting yourself because ATM didn't play shit over the 2 legs they only came out in the 2nd half of the 2nd leg

Well yes the first Leg was outright negative and not worth the 20 mill Diego is being paid but it was the response in the second leg of the tie I praised. The second leg especially in the second half was absolutely great.

A bit nervous in the first half but they managed to absord the early pressure and sustained albeit without the balance of play in thier favour.

Not saying ATM in the next best thing but just pointing out the response in lieu of what was at stake.

As concerns Arsenal, players need to understand what is at stake here and respond accordingly. Don't we have academy players at Saka's level that we can draft in for this crucial run towards the end of the league?