₦airaland Forum

iblawi:
Guy you should be happy you a a neighbor to Nigeria because you've gained a lot through us. Form Glo1 to Main 1 to NCSCS and to Nigcomsat which are fully owned by Nigerians/Nigeria. To others like SAT3, WACS, ACE.

You see Ghana owns nothing and you Contribute nothing to the African continent. Your country is irrelevant even in West Africa. You are always a burden to everyone.

Now that I've educated you on how you link the world you should be grateful to Nigeria and everyone.

Have you ever heard of anyone benefiting anything from Ghana? NO.
GHANA ALWAYS BENEFIT FROM OTHER WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING BACK.

I see you still haven't provided proof that Nigeria has satellites. You were really trying to 419 me, a country where more than 70% lives on $ a day can produce a satellite. You have oil but can't refine it. How can petrol be scarce in that country.

Your priorities are forked up, the president is a scavenger, the country is insignificant, the people are incompetent and ignorant. Shame on the failed state called nigga-area republic

iblawi:
Even Boko Haram have Internet connection in sambisa forest. We are far ahead of you in everything and that is why Ghana is not mentioned anywhere Nigeria is cos your present is insignificant not even in ecowas gathering.

Ghana is a burden to Nigeria and to Europe.

The only thing God bless you with is being a neighbor to Nigeria or atleast the closes English speaking nation to Nigeria.

Nigerians are scavengers and vultures on earth. They want 2 reap what they did not sow. Their chief scavenger can barely stay in the country, he goes from country to country to scavenge

iblawi:
I said tell us how you connect to the rest of the world.

And please post the link of the source cause we know you are not information literate. Let see credibility of the source

Everyone knows Ghana has the fastest internet in Africa. You guys really ought to be ashamed of yourself, a country that has less than half of its population connected to national grid while those who are connected can barely receive any energy. Yet you have mouth to talk about network.

Your priorities are forked up, your country is incompetent, the people are ignorant and insignificant.

iblawi:
Why not ask wiki since you are not information literate.
If we have no satellite why are we managing 1 for an European country.

Wiki really? Why is it so difficult for you guys to provide a single source to support your claim. Nigeria has no satellite orbiting the earth. None

iblawi:
How will Ghana have a faster network when you still use our submarine cables and satellites for communication. We have over five submarine cables linking Nigeria to the rest of the world.
Can you please tell us how you connect to the rest of the world? The earlier you realize that Ghana is a burden to Nigeria the better for you.

Ask anyone that lives in Ghana. We get most technology before your village called Nigeria does. We got mobile phone, universities, computers before you guys.

captainmilk:
Is that all you're good at? hurling insults? I repeat go and do ur research before you come back and quote me... until then..Bleep off

You still can't prove that Nigeria has those satellites. You guys are very stupid that's why your leaders take you for a ride whatever, they say you guys take it without proper research.

Take your dumbazzz and use the internet you claim you have and provide proof that such satellite exist. Oh I forgot your lights are probably off. Insignificant country with ignorant and insignificant people.

TheEnQuirer:
You have never paid for the gas. We give you gas for a pittance!!!

It's part of our charity and benevolence to the government and people of Ghana.

That's why your former President ,kuffor, had to pursue Obasanjor all the way to America where he was attending a conference to plead for oil, funds and project execution for Ghana.

Evolution never designed Ghana to go beyond redundancy and destitution

We paid for the gas. Ghana always leads then Nigeria follows. We taught you math, science and English even though you continue bastardized it. Naija truly a failed nation

TheEnQuirer:
Ghana has only 12% of her population using the internet. That's wretchedness in motion.

Maybe that's why your 2g network runs on theoretical speed.

Most of your population is not connected to national grid and those that have it connected can't get steady supply, so how they charge these equipments. Failed country with no security or power supply yet worrying about Internet. Priorities are forked up in that hellhole.

iblawi:
You can go verify it anywhere it's 33%.
We don't run to Europe looking for aid like Ghana.

Nigeriasat-1
NigeriaSat-2
NigeriaSat-X
Nigcomsat-1
Nigcomsat-1R (replaced the Nigcomsat-1 that was lost)

So where the proof, that Nigeria has satellites orbiting the earth. I have looked every where on the web but I can't find a single sorce that proves your claim.

captainmilk:
look who's talking ... am such you've never crossed the shores of your sh!thole country! How Is Ghana's internet the fastest? when you guys can't even finance a 3.5 g cellular network? When only 12% of Ghana's population has access to internet ... when majority of Ghanaians can't even Skype,video chat or even make a hitch free live online streaming all due to poor networking and poor computer literacy? ? please before you quote me again go and do your research ... C'est compre?

Ghana has the fastest internet speed in Africa. We got 4g before you guys. Fool, Ghana always receive the newest technology before you guys, considering half of your population is not even connected to national grid.

TheEnQuirer:
As the might of Nigeria towers over Ghana, so do I tower over you. I don't make false assertions and lies just for vain banter.

Take your coffin in Pics below.

Liar I knew you would bring this article up. Well swallow this. It clearly states that the satellite will be launched in 2018 so where does it states that it's already orbiting and taking pictures. 419 @ its best.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/1st-made-nigeria-satellite-launched-2018-bulama/

TheEnQuirer:
Refresh your browser in your cheap phone!!! Then apologise to your betters.

Yes, this is the evidence. Seun just downloaded the coding from this website.

http://www.simplemachines.org

TheEnQuirer:
That's what you been saying endlessly. Shame unto you. You're just a lonlely petty lier who wishes to measure up.

Okay till I come up with the evidence I take back my comment and nairaland is solely Nigerian made.


I need evidence on the orbiting Nigerian satellite.

shizzy7:
"WE" - speak for yourself.......

The likes of OXYGEN and sambisaforset come up in here typing in another language. Apparently, they NEVER debate its just insults..

besides, you can't put an end to Ghana and Nigeria debate.....
Loool. No, you can't.

both Ghana and Nigeria have long way like all African countries, however I believe there are many things that Ghana excel better than Nigeria and I hate when guys like lezz try to belittle Ghana.

Yes our GDP is not as big as Nigeria or even Lagos but GDP doesn't tell the whole story and that's what many ignorant Nigerians doesn't get when they belittle countries like Ghana.

TheEnQuirer:
Say it or shut up!!!

You've been saying this since yesterday!!!

Your life is going in circles of denials.

What's eating Ghana is consuming you.

I forgot the name but I will look for it. I saved the website somewhere. I will look for it.

TheEnQuirer:
Sweep waec?? Bwahahaha. Delusions of inferiority complex!!!

Nigeria has built the first orbiting sattelite made by black brains and black hands that today's feeds 35 African countries in geology, mining, weather, security and weather forecast.

What have you produced in Ghana for Africa to match that ?

Lies, provide evidence such satellite. The satellite is yet to be launched. I bet is even capable of taking a picture. Waiting for source

TheEnQuirer:
I have beaten you black and blue every time. You need IMF to remdy your bruised psyche.

You puff lies when you're out-fact and out-debated.

Last night, after I dasjed your carcass had on Nairaland's pavement, you made a laughable postulation that Nairaland was designed and built by an American.

I called you to bring proof and after 24hrs you couldn't.


Compulsive lier and little-minded lad is what you are.


Your schools are as poor as your country and your soul

I told you I will look for the name of the person and the website. Nairaland is a copy and paste from a template.

So tell me this how come there are so many identical websites like nairaland. I mean identical

TheEnQuirer:
Lies!!!

Ghana has no academic Nobel laureate!!!

Your universities have no standards. You don't even have an entry formulae. It's as easy as walking into an open door once you're done with secondary education.

Your education is ZERO

Yet we always sweep all Waec awards. A country of 180 million people but you only talk about three Nobel price winners. Like I said when you are ready I will debate in any topic. Ghana credits are recognized outside Ghana, can't say the same about Nigeria.

TheEnQuirer:
Those children will die of pneumonia before they'll get a certificate in that condition

No problem but your country is worst. Lezz if you ant to have real debate I am ready. Stop talking out ur azz.

shizzy7:
Highly hypocritical, when pictures of Nigerian schools are posted they feast on it like their own students sit on golden chairs and are being taught with the best learning facilities........

Awon Oniranu.....

Bullcrap we only criticize Nigeria when they wanna act all big mighty about their GDP and belittle other countries.


If you guys are ready for real debate void of insults just plain facts I am ready. I will put an end to this Ghana and Nigeria debate once and for all.

ifeomaekol:
Bt I thought they said ghana was d best in terms of education-infact second to none in west africa? What d heck is this?

Is still true when it comes to west africa Ghana is far above any west African country. Most west Africans come to Ghana for education.

TheEnQuirer:
A hard fact for a hypocritical country who tell false tells about Its educational standards.

Shame!!!

I have seen worst from your country. How can you call hypocrites when we only defend our country.

BlackKenichi:
It's no secret that both countries and people that descend from these countries have produced fine boxers. From Azumah Nelson to Ike Ibeabuchi to Ben Tackie to Ola Afolabi to Joseph Agbeko to Ajose Olusegun.

So which country and it's descendants are the best boxers.
Btw I have no stake in this as I'm Jamaican.

Is no secret that Ghanaians are better. Ghana usually lead and Nigeria follows but they don't like to admit it

Which of these teams would Nigeria hate to loose to Ghana, South Africa or Cameroon. I would say Cameroon because they are neighbors

fasbat:
and Ghana will scale through

Nigerians are more dangerous when people underestimate them. As a Ghanaian I wouldn't want to face Nigeria but it would be a great watch that match.

That would be sweet like banana. Ghana,Nigeria, Cameroon and South Africa.

TheGoodJoe:
Then one of the proof of the so called haters is their physical appearance. There is nothing like young face. We are in Nigeria, most Nigerians, at 25-28, can not look like that. Compare them to Nigerians and not Europeans.

Those are real U20 players. So the haters can scream as much as they like, we will continue going places.

Africans are known age cheaters, Nigerians and Ghanaians does it the best. We need to tell ourself the truth and fix it. Most Africans in America look younger than their American counterpart of the same age.

Z

semid4lyfe:
Link Between U17 and the FIFA World Cup

While, the two conditions above make it easier to understand the high level of performance by Nigeria at the U17
level, it remains important to address other issues projected erroneously and mindlessly repeated by the Nigerian
press. I address them below:

1. "The reason why Nigerian stars at U17 level do not develop at the Super Eagles level is because they were over
age when playing at U17 level" --- This is false and is not based on any factual information or compelling analysis. I
examined all players declared the best player at previous FIFA U17 World Cups and also examined their post-
tournament careers (see Table 2). Five of 13 such players (not counting 2011 and 2013 winners since their career
just commenced) have had reasonable careers. The other 8 had poor post-tournament careers (rated Average to
Outstanding). The worst of them was the non-Nigerian -- James Will of Scotland -- named MVP back in 1989 but who
made no appearances for Arsenal or Sheffield United and ended up playing only 8 times for low-level clubs such as
Dumfermline and Turriff until 2008. There was also Spain's Sergio Santamaria who made only 6 appearances for
Barcelona A team and languished in the B and C team until 2011.

The reality is that star players flaming out at the senior level is not and should not be surprising. Biological changes
in growth from 17 to 20 years old and over may affect performance in many ways. Furthermore, in the case of
Nigeria, players going to obscure European clubs may push their career in a downward trajectory and in certain
cases a player choosing to be largely club less while waiting for a big European contract has the same effect. In
fact, one may argue that a player who is over 20 and has been a successful performer before being illegally used at
U17 level is more likely to perform well post-tournament because he will experience less dramatic biological changes
that would stunt his performance.

[img]http://4.bp..com/-eRTbQFU-5Uc/Vj6_c6NpRLI/AAAAAAAAASM/fI-C24mjRK4/s1600/U17%2BTab%2B2.jpeg[/img]

2. "The reason Nigeria's success at U17 level has not translated to success at the senior level is because Nigeria
uses over age players at U17 level" --- This linear expectation that a country performing well (win) at the U17 level
will also do the same at the senior level, is largely unsupported by data. There is far more correlation between
performance at the older youth levels (e.g. U20 and U23) with the senior World Cup than at the U17 and the World
Cup. Table 3 shows that the dominant World Cup teams have only won four U17 World Cups. This includes Brazil
that has used over age players at the U17 level prior to MRI testing. After the MRI tests began, Brazil has failed to
win just yet. The rest -- Nigeria, old Soviet Union, Saudi Arabia, Ghana, Mexico, and Switzerland -- have not done
much at the senior World Cup level. Table 3 shows that most teams that won the U17 World Cup have not gone
beyond the second round (a feat also achieved by Nigeria) of the next two senior World Cups when most of those
U17 are anticipated to be actively playing. The only exception is Brazil and even then the quarter final World Cup
positions are mediocre for Brazil.

[img]http://4.bp..com/-gKHnW4TtRNs/Vj6_pdtxzjI/AAAAAAAAASU/pXOwwZlS-RU/s1600/U17%2BTab%2B3.jpeg[/img]

It is difficult to explain why a certain group of countries has continued to dominate the senior World Cup. However,
one thing is common among those countries and that is World Cup winners often base an estimated 70-100% of their
winning squad on players who are based at home. The only exception were the winning squads of 1994, 1998, and
2002. Those three squads, however, had close to 50% of their squad drawn from home. All other World Cups have
squads crafted from players drawn from their home league. Why may this be important? It means that many of those
players play for a few select clubs and have trained together. That should never be underestimated particularly in a
world where national teams only train together a few days before important games.

Issues that Nigeria Should Think About and Seek Solutions

Here the focus should be on how to build a strong senior national team and going beyond domination of global U17
football. There are no easy answers as we have already noted above with our analysis. There are a few things that
should be apparent, however. One is that the idea of keeping a U17 team together is a nonstarter noting inevitable
biological changes as players mature and also noting that other players who may not have been good at U17 will
invariably emerge. Two, success at all levels depend on long term training together. It has brought success at U17
level but the lack of such opportunity at senior level has also led to failures. This cannot be easily addressed
because of economic considerations of world football, which forces football labor migration from poor financial
compensation locations like Nigeria to high centers of financial compensation. This migration of leads to talent
fragmentalization for nations like Nigeria.

Stop giving false info. How many players from Nigeria 2013 under 17 took part in the World Cup? 0 that's the answer in fact non of the past winners 17 from other countries ever took part in the senior World Cup two years after winning the under 17 cup.

TheGoodJoe:
Picture of the so called Papa Eaglets. Two years after the U17 in 2013.

Haters can only hate, while those with faith move mountains.

cc: lalasticlala.

African have young face compared to westerners.

safarigirl:
This thread has been on my mind for a while, but I chose to post it now because of the ignorance that was allowed to grace the Front Page titled 'Papa Eaglets and Nigerian Cheating'.

https://www.nairaland.com/2742884/papa-eaglets-cheating-culture


First off, I have come to realise that Nigerians hate themselves and hate to see or hear of any progress in relation to their country, so they choose to make unfounded accusations on a team of dedicated, hard working BOYS whose only crime was bringing rare glory to a nation in turmoil. Yes, the purpose of this thread is to tackle claims that Nigerian age grade players are far older than their peers.

The people who make these claims do so based on the sole point that the KIDS eventually fail to realise their potential and fall by the way as opposed to their peers. They then give examples of Stanley Okoro, Macauley Chrisantus and Sani Emmanuel.



Let me first point out the fact that Administrative Errors on the part of the NFF as far as monitoring the progress of these players is one reason why these players don't progress.

Another is the poor state of the Nigerian league and lack of world class academies. While the players from S/America and Europe remain home for at least 2 years, playing competitively in their leagues, Nigerian players are hurriedly shipped to Europe where these KIDS have to deal with culture shock as well as work to prove their mettle or get shipped off once again, they're given little opportunity to do this compared to their foreign counterparts, that is too much expectations on kids who less than a year ago, mostly played the game for the fun of it

There is also that poverty mentality. The truth is most of these kids are from poor homes, we just read of Osimhen who was a hawker before the WC, hence, their immediate need is to get the cash to help out family irrespective of the working conditions, and we know well how African families are; once one person makes some cash, the entire extended family will relax, afterall "our brother is a big footballer in Europe".
So, a child of 16-18 becomes the bread winner of at least 10 people at home, so he has to pay his bro's fees, but Uncle Mike's child too has a business he needs money for, all of that pressure can damage that focus and passion for footy, y'all saw how Adebayor's issues panned out, how much more a kid?

Thirdly, Contrary to what many prefer to lie about, no, Nigeria doesn't have a history of failed age grade players. One guy claimed that every member of England's U-17 team of '09 have good careers, but I checked and found that only Danny Welbeck and Victor Moses can be counted in that team.

Let us remember that Chrisantus and Stanley are 2 of hundreds of age grade players from Nigeria, remember players like Kanu, Enyeama, Yobo, Onazi, Mikel, Omeruo, Musa and most recently, Iheanacho all played age grade football and were active for as long as required.

Maybe we don't have Messi or Di Maria, but even if everyone goes back to check on their mates from Secondary School you'll find that everyone didn't progress equally, in fact, in some sets, the best student then is doing badly now compared to the average and even poor students.

That is life for you, people with potential will fall, nobodies will rise. The likes of Dangote, Osibanjo, Zuckerberg, Oprah probably weren't potential pace setters while in school, but look at them now.

Please, Nigerians, stop slandering your own. Sweden brought Berisha, Brazil brought Mosquito and Mexico had Ochoa 2 years ago, where are they now compared to Kelechi? Did 2 of them not have beards? What about the Mexican captain this year? He had a full beard, but did Mexicans call themselves age cheats? No sane father would stone his son in the market square because others are doing it.

Protect what little is left of our dignity as a nation. Cc Joseph1013, terzurum, icon4s, thegoodjoe, thesupernerd, blueto, bascovanveli

Nice write up, but let's call a spade a spade. Africans have been known as age cheats. Anyone that says otherwise are lying to themselves. Yes, those factors you brought up contribute to their failures even those that make it to the top clubs don't stay on top for a longer period compared to other players from elsewhere.

safarigirl:
there is no MRI in U20, so if there is ever an avenue to cheat, it's right on that stage.

Most of the players assembled for U20 are usually not from the U17 crop, Nigeria made that naive mistake this year and were hammered.

So, any team that doesn't perform in the U17, cannot magically get better in U20 with the same players. They just get new players who are usually older.

I stand corrected.