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madegreatbygrace:Thank you my bro!! The gospel of grace is liberating and that's the Gospel of Christ!! Grace is a person and He is our Lord Jesus Christ.... |
donnie:I perfectly understand you my bro. But in this context, Paul Ellis is talking about Believers in Christ. He is saying that we have nothing to fear on Judgement day because of what Christ did for us on the Cross... Of course the day of the Lord will be terrible and a day of terror to unbelievers, but we believers have nothing to fear cos "therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" ..... I understood you perfectly, you are talking about the day of the Lord in respect to Unbelievers while Paul Ellis was talking about the day of the Lord in respect to Believers. Have a great day my bro. |
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Many people picture God as a scary bookkeeper recording everything they say and do, and on Judgment Day he’ll shame them by playing the dirty tapes of their secret lives. As we saw in a recent post on the Bema Seat, this caricature is far removed from reality. God is not counting our sins against us. Because of Jesus we can have confidence on the Day of Judgment (1 John 4:17). You have nothing to fear. So what are we to make of Paul’s words in the verse that follows the one about the Bema Seat? Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade others. (2 Cor 5:11) Some translations say “the terror of the Lord,” as in, “Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men” (KJV). Pretty much every commentator you’ll read says this is referring to the terror of hell and wrath. “Because hell is frightening, we have to persuade men to trust in Jesus.” But there are a few of problems with this. First, it’s the fear of the Lord , not the fear of hell . God is not hell. Second, it is Paul who knows this fear, and Paul never went to hell. Third, there’s no bad news in the good news. Jesus said, “Repent and believe the good news,” not “Repent because of hell.” To persuade men that God loves them but will fry them forever if they don’t love him back is both illogical and unscriptural. Jesus never did it, and Paul’s not doing it here. So what is the fear (or terror) of the Lord that motivates Paul to preach and persuade others? The fear of the Lord Everyone knows about fear. Fear has been around since Adam heard God walking and hid in the bushes. “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid.” Fear is a fruit of sin. It’s the one thing that keeps us from enjoying life and approaching God. I like what Bill Johnson says about fear: The biblical command repeated most often is: Do not fear. Why? Fear attacks the foundation of our relationship with God… our faith… Fear is also a decay of the heart. It attracts the demonic in the same way as bitterness and hatred. ~When Heaven Invades Earth, p.50 When it comes to God, fear is not good for us. Fear elicits two responses: fight or flight. Do you think God wants you to run away from him? Do you think he wants you to fight him? If “fear of the Lord” means running away or fighting him, something doesn’t add up. We need a broader definition of fear, one that is based on scriptures such as these: (The women) departed quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy (Matt 28: ![]() Fear with great joy ? That doesn’t sound like your everyday kind of fear. Full of fear, they praised God, saying, “What marvelous things we have seen today!” (Luke 5:26, GNB) They didn’t have a little fear but a lot, and they were happy. They were bouncing off the ceiling with joy because they had seen Jesus heal a crippled man. Then the church … enjoyed a time of peace and was strengthened. Living in the fear of the Lord and encouraged by the Holy Spirit… (Act 9:31) Fear and peace? Fear and encouragement ? Toto, we’re not in Kansas anymore. The beginning of wisdom As Jesus explained, to fear the Lord is to worship him . It’s not being afraid, as Adam was, but being thrilled and awed as you realize that God is good and he is good to you! Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days. (Hos 3:5) Hosea prophesied that Israel would be startled by God’s goodness. The context was the unconditional and undeserved love he showed to his faithless wife. That’s how God loves you, only more so. His love is great, his grace is hyper, and his goodness is off-the-scale. When you see it your jaw will drop, your knees will shake, and your heart will tremble. Adam’s fear caused him to run from God, but the fear of the Lord causes you to draw near in awestruck reverence. Adamic fear, or being afraid of the Lord, is a bad thing, but Biblical fear, or the fear of the Lord , is a good thing. And the latter is the cure to the former; the fear of the Lord is the antidote to fear. When you see God as he truly is, nothing scares you. When you have trembled in awe-struck adoration at his goodness and your knees have buckled under the weight of his glory, the problems of life are reduced to nothing. You realize that, “God loves me! God is for me! Who can be against me?” Now we begin to understand why the same apostle who said, “The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again” (Rom 8:15), also said this, “Since we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade others” (2 Cor 5:11). He was talking about two different things; a fear that causes you to run from God and an awe that draws you near. So here is my paraphrase of Paul’s words: Since we know what it is to fear the Lord (since we have tasted the goodness of God who loves us and wants to bless us), we try to persuade others (that he is good and longs to be good to them). (2 Cor 5:11) Are you persuaded? https://escapetoreality.org/2016/05/19/fear-of-the-lord-2-corinthians-5v11/
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A Bible Study by Jack Kelley Read Matt 25:31-46 and immediately four questions come to mind, and answering them correctly takes a little doing. In fact, a number of respected commentators have missed the mark. As usual with the Bible, a careful reading combined with some logical deduction will go a long way toward bring the answers to light. The four questions are: 1. What is the time and place in which this judgment occurs? 2. Who is being judged? 3. Who are “these brothers of mine?” 4. What are the consequences of the judgment? We’ll dissect the passage, address the questions as they appear, and summarize our findings at the end. First let’s first clarify that this message from the Lord is technically not a parable, though it’s often described as such. It does open with the Lord comparing Himself to a shepherd and the people of Earth to sheep and goats. But the rest of the account is the preview of an actual event, not a hypothetical story designed to illustrate a Biblical truth like parables are. Let’s begin. “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left (Matt. 25:31-33). The First Question Please The first two questions come right off the bat. What is the time and place in which this judgment occurs and who is being judged? The passage itself identifies the time as right after the 2nd Coming and that makes the location Earth. In Joel 3:1-3 the prophet speaks of a time when the Lord will restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem and gather the nations together in the Valley of Jehoshaphat to hold them accountable for the way they’ve treated His people. Also, comparing Joel 3:14-16 with Matt. 24:29-30 gives us confirmation that the Sheep and Goat judgment will take place on Earth following the2nd Coming. Joel’s prophecy is a reference to the Sheep and Goat judgment. Since the word Jehoshaphat means “the Lord Judges” and no place by that name can be found on Earth, many believe he’s making reference to the Kidron Valley which separates the Mount of Olives from the Temple, and that the name describes what He’s there to do, not where He is. Question Two Since this judgment is clearly post 2nd Coming, the Church cannot be the answer to question 2, “Who is being judged?” No matter what your preference is for the placement of the rapture in the End Times scenario, proponents of all the major positions agree it happens before the 2nd Coming. (I should mention that “Post-Tribbers” have a big problem here because if the rapture occurs just before the Lord’s return, there won’t be any “sheep” left for this judgment. They would all have just been taken in the rapture.) And since one of the things that happen in the rapture is the instantaneous perfection of believers, no judgment subsequent to that would be necessary. No, the ones being judged here are those people of Earth who’ve survived the Great Tribulation. As we’ll see, some of them have come to faith, but were too late for the rapture. And don’t let the word nations fool you. It’s only used to explain that this is a worldwide event. The Greek word for nations also means, multitudes, people groups, or simply Gentiles. The Lord holds everyone personally accountable for his or her behavior. “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ “The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me’ (Matt. 25:34-40). Question Three The most obvious choice of identity for “these brothers of mine” is the Jewish people, from among whom the Messiah first came. Although all believers will be subject to persecution during the Great Tribulation, Jewish believers will be singled out for special attention in a final effort to eliminate them from the planet once and for all. And no doubt the 144,000 specially commissioned Messianic believers of Rev. 7:1-8 will head the enemy’s list for extermination. You see, according to the prophet Hosea the Jewish people have to petition the Messiah to return (Hosea 5:15-6:2). If Satan can wipe them all out before they can do that, he’s won. That’s why there have been repeated efforts to destroy them over the last 2000 years, and those efforts will intensify as the End of the Age approaches . Racial discrimination of any kind is wrong, but anti-Semitism is Satanic. “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ “He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life” (Matt. 25:41-46). And The Final Question The way the standard for judgment is explained can also be a little misleading. “Whatever you did (or did not) do for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did (or did not) do for me.” On first blush it appears that people are being rewarded for their good works, and punished for their failures. But the external actions He describes are simply tangible evidence of a faithful heart. The situation for Jewish believers in those days will become progressively worse and worse until they’ll be dependent on the charitable acts of others for their very survival. And those who reach out to help them will do so at their extreme peril, since they’ll be aiding and abetting a declared enemy every time they do. This is a crime punishable by death. To make matters worse there will be snitches everywhere. What a perilous time! “It will be as though a man fled from a lion only to meet a bear; as though he entered his house and rested his hand on the wall only to have a snake bite him.”(Amos 5:19) Only those whose hearts are fully dedicated to the Lord and know that He’s on His way back for them will risk their own skins to help a stranger, especially when that stranger is an officially designated enemy. Only they will remember the Lord’s answer to the question, “What is the greatest commandment?” “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind,” He replied, “And the second is like it. Love your neighbor as yourself” (Matt. 22:37-39). In helping these strangers they’re fulfilling both commandments, and the Lord, seeing their faith in action, will reward them accordingly. “Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.” Non-believers, having fallen for the deception of the antichrist and his false prophet, will have nothing to do with their leaders’ enemies, and in fact many will be proud to act as volunteer spies, informing on them or even worse. They’ll fulfill the Lord’s own words, “A time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God” (John 16:2). They’ll be sent to the place of eternal punishment prepared for the devil and his angels. The Sheep and Goat judgment then, is not a parable, but a clear warning to Tribulation Survivors that once the Lord returns, the time for accepting Him as their Savior will have ended and the consequences will be severe and eternal. But notice how even after it’s too late they call Him Lord? Read Paul’s words from Philippians 2:9-11. Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. And in Zechariah 14:9, The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name. When He returns there will be no doubt anywhere as to Who He is. Everyone from the highest place in Heaven to those in the lowest place under the Earth, which includes Satan’s domain, will bow before Him, agreeing that He’s the Lord. But those He likened to the goats will have refused to accept Him as their Savior and will be sent away to eternal punishment. Having turned down His offer of pardon in favor of making their own way, they will now have eternity to contemplate the folly of their actions. “I have told you all this in advance,” the Lord says, “So that you would know.” The Sheep and Goat judgment stands as an unmistakably clear look into the future so that all who will may come and be forgiven. The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life. (Rev 22:17) Better do it right now, while there’s time. For if you listen closely you can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah. https://gracethrufaith.com/end-times-prophecy/the-sheep-and-goat-judgment-matt-2531-46/
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brightisodje:Thank you my brother, that's true. |
analice107:You are very correct my dear. |
analice107:Thank you my dear.... Seriously, these atheists are irritants!! look at how they invaded this thread.... But whether they like it or not, Jesus will surely come and soonest!! They will all be surprised when the rapture happens.... hahahahahaa ![]() |
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