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Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 5:24pm On Sep 02, 2021

aribisala0:
[/quote][quote author=jimyjames post=105422154]Ojukwu released awolowo from Eastern prison go up come down ojukwu did it not Gowon

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 5:19pm On Sep 02, 2021

aribisala0:
[/quote][quote author=jimyjames post=105422154]Ojukwu released awolowo from Eastern prison go up come down ojukwu did it not Gowon

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 3:49pm On Sep 02, 2021

[quote author=aribisala0 post=105422054][/quote]Ojukwu released awolowo from Eastern prison go up come down ojukwu did it not Gowon

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 3:40pm On Sep 02, 2021

aribisala0:
irrelevant nonsense

August 1 Gowon became Head of state and announced release
August 3 Awolowo arrived Lagos
clear cause and effect

not idle IPOB speculation

In ojukwu's words in the last interview he did in 2001
OJUKWU: We’ve said this over and over again, so many times, and people don’t understand; they don’t want to actually. If you remember, I released Awolowo from jail. Even that, some people are beginning to contest as well. Awo was in jail in Calabar. Gowon knows and the whole of the federal establishment knows that at no point was Gowon in charge of the East. The East took orders from me. Now, how could Gowon have released Awolowo who was in Calabar? Because of the fact that I released him, it created quite a lot of rapport between Awo and myself and I know that before he went back to Ikenne, I set up a hotline between Ikenne and my bedroom in Enugu

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 3:26pm On Sep 02, 2021

aribisala0:
Where is the evidence forr all these imaginary claims

Why did Ojukwu "release" Awolowo only after Gowon ordered his release?

That story is fictional

Ojukwu released awolowo immediately after ironsi's assassination the next in line was ogundipe, ogundipe chickened out allowing gowon to take over, Gowon was not the rightful person to be in that position ojukwu never recognized him

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 3:20pm On Sep 02, 2021*

aribisala0:
That is your assumption there is no evidence for that
That was not the case of other military governors we have seen

e.g No military governor under Babangida was up to the rank of General and they had GOCs in their states who were Generals

What Ojukwu Told Me Before, During And After The War —Sam Aluko

How close were you to the late Chief Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu?

I will say that I was very close to him till his death. Immediately, he became governor of the former Eastern Region, when I was a senior lecturer in Economics in the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, he called me the third day he became governor. He said he wanted to come and see me in my university. I never met him before. How can the military governor come and see me? I said no. I told him I would come and see him, instead. I told the person he sent that he should tell the governor that I was the one who should come and see him and not him coming to see me. That was on January 20, 1966. So, when I said I was going to see him, my wife said she would go with me. She said we didn’t know the man and therefore she wanted to be present at the meeting. She reasoned that we couldn’t predict a soldier who just came. When we got to the military governor’s house, Ojukwu said: ‘Madam, I know you would come because you thought that I will do something to your husband.’ He said he had never met me before, but those in the military had been reading so much about me and they venerated me. According to him, that was why he wanted to see me. He said he wanted me to help him to run the government of the Eastern Region.

We discussed and he asked what role I would like to play and I said I would remain in the university because I didn’t want to leave. I promised to do whatever I could do to help him. The first cabinet that he formed, we both sat down and looked at the names of those from the Eastern Region to be cabinet members. He did not know them because he was not living in the Eastern Region. He was outside, in Kaduna and in Lagos. He spoke Yoruba better than I. So, we were speaking in Yoruba most of the time. That’s how the relationship began and we became very close. It was through him that I knew Adekunle Fajuyi, the governor of the Western Region. We continued until after the counter-coup in July. I was very sad. They killed many Igbo. Many who were not killed had cuts in the head and other parts of the body. He called me and said what could he do? What was going on in his mind was to go to a place in Benue and sack a village there. He wanted to kill as many people as possible. I said no. I said as a Christian, Christianity doesn’t allow for vengeance. As a Christian, I said he should not do that.

Was that when the killings in the North started?

[b]

Yes. That was the period the pogrom started. I said he should get in touch with the Head of State, but he said no because it was wrong for Yakubu Gowon to be Head of State because there was Ogundipe, who was a Brigadier and the most senior military officer at the time. He said when the coup happened in January, the most senior officer became the Head of State. So, he argued that when the counter-coup happened, the most senior should also become the Head of State. But the northerners will not take that at that time. Ogundipe himself did not want it because he said there were few Yoruba in the army. He said he will just be there without support and they would kill him. So, they made him High Commissioner in London. When the pogrom continued and the people were coming to the East from the North, Ojukwu said he was afraid that the easterners coming back might attack those who are non-easterners in the East. He then made a statement on the radio that all those who were non-easterners should leave the East.

At the time, there was rumour that Professor Babatunde Fafunwa was killed because he was from the West. But Fafunwa was in Benin Republic attending a conference. Ojukwu said the rumour was a sign of what was to happen. He said they would be attacking the northerners and the westerners and claim easterners did. So, he will ask everybody to go. I went to see him in Enugu and I said: “well, Your Excellency, I will have to go back to the West.” He said no, emphasising that when he talked of westerners, it did not apply to me because I was one of them. Non-easterners in the East were scared. Fafunwa and I were the most senior in the place. Fafunwa was not around and I said: “I will have to take them to the West to make sure that they were safe.” He said it was OK and that he will give me soldiers to make sure that all the students and staff were safe. He said when I got to Benin, I should hand them over to the governor in Benin to take them to the West and I should return to my job in nsukka

This is what Sam aluko who was a regular visitor of awolowo said

[color=#000099] I was being integrated in the East because, at that time, Obafemi Awolowo was in the Calabar prison and I was the only one allowed to see him. Ojukwu used to give me protection to go and see him. So, I was enjoying myself.

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 3:05pm On Sep 02, 2021

aribisala0:
Where is the evidence?
Was Ojukwu a prison Comptroller?
Prison officers are armed and uniformed men not under the control of the Military or regional government
Ojukwu had not asserted any such authority as you are claiming as of the time Awolowo was released
That only came in the following days after the Pogroms in the North that intensified in September 1966

Read about BLACK THURSDAY

Ojukwu a military governer of the Eastern region had every power over Eastern region including the army and police plus prison , people took permission from ojukwu even to visit a federal prisoner like awolowo , Sam aluko who was a lecturer of economics in the university of Nigerian nsukka was a regular visitor of awolowo in calabar prison, even though he was a close friend of ojukwu he still needed permission from ojukwu before he will be allowed to visit awolowo

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 2:48pm On Sep 02, 2021

aribisala0:
Gowon announced the release on August 1 1966 his first official action and was photographed with Awolowo less than 48 hours later

Those are the facts .
all you are saying is story, speculation and analysis
Why did not Ojukwu release him earlier?
We are talking about a man that was sentenced by the federal government for a federal offence

On what basis did Ojukwu release him? Did Ojukwu issue a pardon?
Why was he released to Lagos and not Enugu

Like I said ojukwu released awolowo in the midst of the tension that erupted immediately after the Assassination of ironsi , he ojukwu released awolowo same way he released banjo, adewale, nzeogwu, efeajuna etc

Awolowo still visited ojukwu after the release

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 2:31pm On Sep 02, 2021

aribisala0:
Assumptions and analysis

Fact is Gowon was announced head of State on August 1 and in his first address to the nation he announced the release of Awolowo

48 hours later he was photographed in Lagos with Awolowo
At no time did Ojukwu announce Awolowo's release

Those are THE FACTS

Everything else is just analysis and guesswork

Ojukwu released awolowo from calabar prison, go up come down, there is no way Gowon will release awolowo from calabar prison without passing through ojukwu no way

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 12:56pm On Sep 02, 2021

aribisala0:
What you cite as "evidence" is assumption , inference and speculation . NOT FACTS

What are the known facts?

Over what time frame ??When did Ojukwu first declare that he did not recognize Gowon ? Date?

On July 29 Ironsi and others were killed.
On 1 August Gowon was announced as Head of State and on that day ordered the release of Awolowo
On 3 August Awolowo was photographed in Lagos WITH GOWON

Did Ojukwu at any time announce the release of Awolowo?

If you look at the facts it is impossible to come to any other conclusion.

There is no evidence that Ojukwu ever ordered Awolowo's release. None Whatsoever

All that talk about being "in Total control" is just nonsense because we know for a fact that Gowon announced release and 48 hours later Awolowo was in Lagos with Gowon

Gowon had no Power over Eastern region, Easterners were even accusing gowon of having a hand in the coup that killed ironsi, Gowon was a junior officer, the next inline to ironsi was ogundipe not Gowon, hundreds of thousands of Easterners were trooping back to the east on daily telling stories of how they escaped death from North, west middle belt,some returned with wounds on their bodies tension waw high, none Easterners living in east were escaping for fear of being mobbed and killed by Easterners , ojukwu released awolowo in the midst of all these uproar , what was written on newspapers during those periods were just mere propaganda to make it look like gowon was working to solve problems, while people were being killed everyday, it was just like what is happening today were minister of information and those working for FG are doing everything possible to make people believe Buhari has defeated Boko Haram and bandits

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 12:18pm On Sep 02, 2021

aribisala0:
Gowon released Awolowo.

What evidence do you have for your ridiculous claim?

My evidence is ojukwu who was the military governor of Eastern Region, and didn't recognize gowon as the new head of state and ojukwu had total control of Eastern Region it is the same total control over Eastern Region that made him declare Eastern region biafra

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 9:36am On Sep 02, 2021

TripleOh7:
This is my last response to you on this thread.

I'll leave you now to go and digest the information you've been bombarded with since yesterday.

Happy digestion.

Don't bother to quote me, I'm done here.

Oh BTW, the info dump I did here isn't for you per se. It's for other Igbos who might also have your mindset. Hopefully their own minds aren't set in concrete like yours and they can still have a change of heart.

This will be my last response to you too,
Ojukwu released Awolowo from prison not gowon, I still stand by it

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 9:31am On Sep 02, 2021

TripleOh7:
But your own is fact not propaganda?

You are funny.

You sound like a downing man clutching at straws.

You were taught early in life to hate chief Obafemi Awolowo and you were given "facts" with which to hate him by. i.e "Ojukwu releases him from prison and he then betrayed Ojukwu by fighting against him".

That's the reason most Igbos call Yoruba people "betrayers".

Now you're confronted with undisputable facts that upsets the core reason for your hatred and now you're shocked and will do anything to hang on to your old beliefs.

You can't imagine that you've hated a man based on a lie for most of your life.

I understand your predicament but it is becoming unreasonable in the face of facts.

Let me shock you some more concerning the supposed starvation policy. Are you ready? It's gonna be a bumpy ride for you.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/103624-u-s-blames-ojukwu-gowon-for-biafras-starvation-deaths.html

In case you won't open that thread, I've gone to the trouble of making screenshots for you.

There is nothing shocking in what you posted, gowon following the advice of Awowolo placed a blockade to starve biafran children to death, both sea and air, humanitarian planes caring food were shot down, nothing shocking there

Sports › Re: Air Peace Becomes Official Sponsor Of Nigerian National Teams by jimyjames(m): 9:07am On Sep 02, 2021

Juliusmalema:
These are one of many Anambra sons we are proud of any day anytime.

ANAMBRA AMAKA.

ANAMBRA AMAKA.

God bless Nigeria
God bless Anambra State
And most of all God bless Airpeace that keeps the green white green flying.

You forgot to add God bless your brother Buhari grin

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 5:17pm On Sep 01, 2021*

TripleOh7:
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

A simple Google search would have saved you this embarrassment.

No one used propaganda and lies more than the Biafran side.

You think Radio Biafra just started today?

Lol.

I know about biafra propaganda, biafra propaganda team was set up to wage a defensive media war against the already Nigerian/British superior media propagandizers , to help with this media war ojukwu hired a media firm named Markpress in Geneva Switzerland they were the ones that made the case of biafra suffering and starvation known to the world fighting back the lies Nigerian/British media were telling the world that nothing like mass starvation, or bombings of civilian refugee camps was going on in biafra , whatever you read in the Nigerian/British newspapers back then is not fact but just mere propaganda, it was a propaganda warfare between Nigeria and biafra , biafra did same

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 2:30pm On Sep 01, 2021

TripleOh7:
It is propaganda when the news doesn't suit your narrative. That has always been your method, right?

I didn't expect better from you though.

Or aren't you the same people that claim the Biafran war was a genocide when it suits your narrative one day and then a war when it suits another narrative the next day?

Post your own news/propaganda resources that state clearly that it was Ojukwu that released Awolowo from prison. After all, if more than 3 newspapers printed lies during that period, there should be rejoinders to that effect.

So, post them and let's all learn.

We are waiting...

I won't hold my breath.

We didn't have propaganda newspaper working in our favour so how will a Nigeria/British propaganda newspaper report in favour of ojukwu or igbos? Ojukwu released awolowo simple and Short

TV/Movies › Re: Whitemoney: I Will Compensate Boma, Liquorose If I Win BBNaija N90m Grand Prize by jimyjames(m): 11:20am On Sep 01, 2021

Vinnie2000:
Ogbeni Goan Sit Down!!

You just used Food/Cooking take Deceive gullible Nigerians!!
When I was going to Work, I view my TV, Na Sleep you dey Sleep when others dey do Workouts!!
Playing on Different Sentiments to deceive pple!!
VERY LAZY BOY!!

This is ridiculous, is it not a game of play to win? Why call it a deceptive act?

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Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 10:01am On Sep 01, 2021

TripleOh7:
Lol.

Facts have become propaganda?

Well it's left for you to bring at least one newspaper article from that time that talked about Ojukwu freeing Awolowo. Just one. I'll wait...

I believe Ojukwu's statement wasn't propaganda. Lol

What facts exactly? Just cause a Nigerian/British propaganda newspaper reported news in favour of their puppet Jack gowon doesn't mean its true, it was same propaganda that turned a coup plotted by military Junior officers from different tribes to just an igbo coup, Nigeria/British controlled the media, there are many things they said against ojukwu and biafra that were just mere propaganda, gowon spent alot of money on media propaganda he even hired a British advertising firm for it

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 9:28am On Sep 01, 2021

TripleOh7:
Gowon simply sat and watched. Interesting. Please tell me you were at least 15 years old when these events were taking place.

I have provided you with genuine newspaper cuttings from that period but you'd rather believe someone who had everything to gain from his self serving statements on what he did and didn't do.

Go through the pictures I posted. I'd believe those over someone who dragged his people through a civil war and was looking for a way to justify himself.

It's a waste of time reading Nigerian/British propaganda newspapers a Media war that was waged against ojukwu and igbos

Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 9:20am On Sep 01, 2021

Blue3k:
Yeah life's not fair as your parents probably told you. Now get to work if you actually want anything done about it.

We survived against all odds didn't we? From awolowo's 20 pounds to millionaires

Politics › Re: How Azikwe Dethroned The Grandfather Of The Current Olu Of Warri? by jimyjames(m): 9:15am On Sep 01, 2021

TripleOh7:
In your opinion, [s]a junior military officer can disobey a direct order from the senior top brass of the military[/s]? You probably know NOTHING about military life.

You think if Gowon didn't sign a release order Ojukwu would have taken it upon himself to do so? Lol.

You don't understand the situation at that time
The country was in crisis, ironsi was assassinated the next in line was ogundipe not gowon, Gowon was a junior officer he took over and couldn't control the situation, hundreds of igbo officers were getting killed on a daily basis, thousands of igbos and Easterners were getting killed everyday, ojukwu had millions of refugees at hand, gowon practically sat and watched, in fact Easterners believed gowon himself had a hand in Ironsi's assassination, ojukwu and Easterners did not recognize gowon as the head of state, he had no power over Eastern Region

Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 1:08am On Sep 01, 2021

johnmartus:
Othman Danfodio.

Clown

Celebrities › Re: Bobrisky Storms 30th Birthday Party With Entourage, Security, Grand Entrance by jimyjames(m): 11:37pm On Aug 31, 2021

He/she wants to shine like obi cubana

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Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 11:29pm On Aug 31, 2021

Captain8:
how can i answer tobacco question when am not under the control of tobacco?

Answer under the control of ogogoro then undecided

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Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 11:28pm On Aug 31, 2021

Blue3k:
You couldn't answer the questions yet again. The process hasn't been followed just admit its been all talk no action so far by your elected leaders. The only thing that happened was Anioma National Council and Anioma State Movement inÂ Asaba made a request in 2010. As you know thats not the Constitutional process. Now that you know this you can choose to do the hardwork and get it done. Right now it seems like you only want to do is complain life's not fair.

Whatever, all I can say is shame on gowon and awolowo for carving oil rich igbo lands to other states, we shouldn't be talking of going through the hard snail process if they didn't do the evil they did, such things were easily done under military regime

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Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 11:23pm On Aug 31, 2021

Captain8:
tobacco question

Answer the tobacco question ogogoro man

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Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 11:10pm On Aug 31, 2021

Captain8:
no.. we are very happy about it.... atleast it will give us peace from bia-fraud agitators who so obsessed and greed for oils....
then the oil defence fight that will no longer be on the shoulder of Ijaw alone.....

i want yoruba lands also to produced more oils....

Obsessed and greed for oil? How many oil wells do igbos have in ijaw land?

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Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 10:55pm On Aug 31, 2021

johnmartus:
Dont be unfortunate that land not belong to igbo the rightful owner will ask for it when time comes.

Who are the rightful owners?

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Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 10:54pm On Aug 31, 2021

Blue3k:
The steps simply weren't followed that's why nothing has been done. There's no legal means to deny the referendum once the conditions are met. If they did there would be something said and done by all your representatives.

What are the names of the representatives who made the request and what dates it happen? If they aren't the current ones why haven't they said anything? I really doubt step A even happened.

The case was submitted to the national Assembly since 1982 they were working on it before the military took over in 1983 and in 2010 the case was renewed

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Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 6:55pm On Aug 31, 2021

Blue3k:
What was the date referendum and what were results then? I'll assume A happen just to be charitable. I know for a fact B didn't happen.

A referendum was never approved for them

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Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 6:46pm On Aug 31, 2021

Blue3k:
Refer to the Constitution.

The anioma's did all constitution demands but still nothing happened

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Politics › Re: Anambra Joins Oil Producing States, To Benefit From 13% Derivation by jimyjames(m): 6:37pm On Aug 31, 2021

Blue3k:
You didn't complete the previous steps of the process it's that simple. When did A and B happen before we even discuss C and D.

What previous steps enlightened me

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