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PietroRico:
Oga don tire for airmark and co, he dey find fresh argument

Don't mind him.. very yeye somebody. Make person find work give am

Where's this Lassana Diarra talk emanating from..We don turn retirement home abi?

May Olokun and Ogun in Dietal Conjunction punish anybody that will say Pogba is not world class here..

Kevin De Bruyne has played 21 Premier League matches in an attacking team playing total football, dominating the league. He has 9 assists. Due to injury and suspension Pogba has 7 assists in 12. This season belongs to De Bruyne but Pogba is world class if played in the right way.

mscheewww... Useless thread. We win a match and y'all sprinkle your negative vibes over it. Nigerians and their negative aura. Make i go dey with sensible fans without black minds like us Africans.

beautiful Martial.. Let's keep the intensity of the game going and not try to defend

Right side is just dead

El Busico... people are wicked

Oasis007:


Are you a Pessimist?!

No i am not.. We are just too thin and lackluster to inspire confidence right now

Oasis007:


We shall be here to celebrate the Maximum Points for United this Evening! I'm ain't skeptical, rather full of Confidence that this new Year gonna be favorable for United.

lol.

PietroRico:
that initial plan of understudying van gaal for 3 years before taking over would have been perfect of van gaal didn't fúck shít up before getting the boot

Yea that was the idea until the fraud messed it up. I would still like Giggs to have a go at it. As it is now we are a sacking club and Mourinho is looking like 3 in 4 years. Nothing special about United's managerial job anymore so we might as well give it to giggs.

PietroRico:
I can almost understand giggs dodging certain managerial posts. The man doesn't want to kill his career before it even starts by taking any of those toxic jobs at the bottom half of the premier league.

He should consider going abroad. He decent team in France or Germany should be a good enough environment to test his mettle

And how did that go for Neville, Moyes? Going to bottom teams or some struggling foreign teams and trying to bring them up is not easy can easily end a carrer before it even begins. Look at Neville.. we won't even touch him with a barge pole.

CapitalCee:
That's why i told you the other day that mourinho should be sacked, make we hear word.

Abi na.. Giggs sef dey wait patiently

''I did an interview last week about my managerial aspirations and received some criticism because apparently I wasn't willing to manage at a lower level.

I didn't say anything at all about not managing at a lower level; I said because of my experience, I'd be more suited coaching at the level which I previously played and coached.

My critic quoted Steven Gerrard saying, in his experience, footballers want to just do their UEFA C Licence and go straight into the job. I did my UEFA B Licence when I was 29, my A Licence when I was 35, my Pro Licence while I was still playing and I coached at Manchester United for three years - including managing four games - so I don't see the relevance.

The argument that players who have been a success can't go into success is a non-argument. People use Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger but there are also countless examples of unsuccessful players being unsuccessful managers. It is all down to the individual.

I played until i was 40 so i was doing my Pro License on a Saturday and Sunday, training on a Monday and Tuesday, doing more coaching and then driving back for Champions League games on Wednesday. To say I haven't put in the work is ridiculous.

I felt I could gain more from moving on and I'm now waiting for that right opportunity. I've shown interest in the Wales job and I'm involved in Salford and the Vietnamese football academy.

Every day it gets a bit more difficult with the climate of coaching appointments. I've grown up with the ethos of building something and that seems to have gone out of the window.

I think you see with contracts being offered, nobody is getting the long-term deals which Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger had.

You look at Sean Dyche, who has been able to establish himself and is now really building something great at Burnley, but then there's the likes of Mark Hughes and Eddie Howe who lose a couple of games and suddenly people say they're under pressure.

I don't know if what Sir Alex Ferguson did at Manchester United is possible anymore with the climate of everything, the media and the money, right now.

Sir Alex used to come down and watch us at 14 at The Cliff and see which players would be in the first team in three or four years, but I don't think you can do that anymore.''

That page 5000 na funny page. Reminds me of when we write our last paper for wassce that year.. Lol

kokaneprodigy:
that’s because if Mou was by chance in Pep’s shoes leading by 15 points he would have been throwing both subtle and direct jabs at his counterparts.
This is why his failures are blown out of proportion.
I can remember a game where Mou stretched out his hands to shake the opposition manager so he can walk into the tunnel when the game still had abt 5mins to go simply because he was already leading by a wide margin and knew he’s winning the game anyway(of course the handshake was ignored on the day). This same Mou was caught whispering to Conte on respect last season after being trashed, tutoring City fans and players on respect this season. The guy is the architect of all these. He is the self acclaimed special one he has to be 10/10 all the time anything less the jury will pounce its that simple.

I've heard you sir. I don't expect you to find any good in Mourinho. He is the architect of his downfall. He will be sack when we are out of top four so the rest of y'all can be happy.

Straight wins ended.. Gabriel Jesus out, Kevin De Bruyne out hopefully 6 months for both. New year came early.. Now there's a target on City's back, lets see if they are so good.

Look at us.. We now have factions of real fans against the fake fans. Let's just keep failing then so the man can go. This shameless pro and anti-Mourinho should just end jeje so we can have peace. He's the only manager in world football i know that if we were 1st on the log and 20 points clear he'll still be hated with passion even by many of us here and called arrogant and all...Let him just fail and go so maybe the 'i told you so' s' which are at the detriment of the team, arm for the trolls here and shame to the club can end.

taxi for Henrikh Bebetaryan

patrickmuf:
Of course the club should provide him more funds but one thing is certain, he'll get criticized if the team isn't doing well just as he gets the praise when we win...It's a no brainer, even in our respective fields of life, we get criticized by our bosses when things aren't going according to plan not withstanding how excellent we have been previously, it's part of the job.

I get your point

funlord:
I really hope that one gets admission into school soon....Na pity I dey pity am atimes!

Very useless nonentity

adebayo201:
The club dont need to have a team full of stars with disjointed style, ego and no purpose. Sometimes, average players with good motivation can get the job done in no distant time than the hype of headache the stars will cause.

I will still say this: Mahrez will fit that RW effortlessly with little amount. Find a deputy for Val at RB and give Luke Shaw more minutes of play. And add a versatile 10 to the middle then the team is good to go.

I don't understand all this talk of the club not getting stars because of ego and purpose.. Madrid spent huge on Bale after Ronaldo.. How has it affected their ego? They have a history of galacitcos.. Did years of buying stars not pay back with ucl back to back wins? Did the huge outlay on Suarez, Neymar make Barca better or worse? All this ego talk is because we think once a player cost a lot, he must certainly have ego that will disrupt the dressing room at the detriment of the team that pays his bills. For all of Neymar's trouble at PSG, they seem to have grown passed that. These are matured guys for heaven sake. We are complaining of the dross LVG bought, yet we are turning around and asking that we continue to invest in players who are not doing anything really special in football at the moment. Don't you guys get tired of looking at our team and going meh this team doesn't scare anybody and when they take to the pitch, they really do not.

Neymar1095:
Raheem Sterling has more goals this season than Eden Hazard has in the entire 2017.............!!

Tell me how this affects United fans. If someone reports you now won't you say we are wicked here? I think all the underage commenters should be put in a list and submitted to the mods. Y'all just come to this thread to dump toxic because it's the busiest in the sports section.

adebayo201:
nice writeup. It's a must read for all United fans.

Certainly is.

patrickmuf:
The argument here was that Mou ought not to blame lacking of spending or under spending for where we find ourself now, I have always argued that with the resources available to Mou, we should be a lot more closer to City...And nobody is a naysayer here, granted some criticism has been over the top but most of it is based on hard facts...We can all share the same view but as adults, it's expected we respect each others opinion...

I can point out countless comments that just got me surprised how people can change overnight. The same people who were full of praises for the manager have suddenly gone all anti-mourinho. We may have spent alot on players but since we aren't yet reaching our targets, should the club not provide any fund for more players if the manager needs? Should they sack him because with what he has spent which is below what city has spent we are not in the place we are in the table accordingly? People can criticize and say all that want but if the obvious weaknesses in this team has been fixed and we still play dreadful football, it is then i will give up completely on Mourinho and declare him finished. Not when there are still gaping holes, need for suitable quality players for such places that has cost us fortunes and will cost more that i will be calling for a sack. Y'all can focus on the money but every manager identifies players based on the state of their team and finacial and marketability reasons for their clubs. United has spent on players with those considerations and if we need to spend more to have a galactico worthy of scaring teams to a whimper i am all for it.

PietroRico:
this simpleton for example run go create account.. . to troll with a term he cannot even spell and very likely does not understand.

The part that pains me the most is when socalled fans here will latch on this obvious trolls comment to propagate more United hate and Mourinho sack chant...Why can't y'all hate-filled fans wait till United fall so low beyond redemption before you call for a managers sack. Is it when someone is in 2nd, hasn't fallen out of top 4, is in the next round of the UCL that you want to sack. Why didn't city sack Pep last season after such a terrible season? Even he said if it was any big club, he'd be gone. No but it's Mourinho with his uninteresting face, defend for 90 minutes football and constant complaining and nagging that should be sacked mid season. Some people should jeje stick to their Fifa games and Football Manager and stop annoying people here with constant whining like PTSD patients.

dubylhover:
@joeace2020 o totally agree with that article,the solution right now is not change of manager but most fans won't see it that way,I just hope that those in charge really back the manager on what he wants not some nairaland football Einstein's

Thank you. I hope they weed out the talk of all the naysayers taking sides with rival fans to spread doom and gloom all over the club and help the manager get what he wants. Mourinho may not be as inspiring or as attack minded in philosophy as Fergie or Pep but he has taken us from near death and possible oblivion to the consciousness of people and the press again. Even our rival fans point to our previous bad seasons to ridicule us rather than looking at how poor they thought we'd remain like the Arsenal's and Liverpool's of this world.

At centre of Man United's foul mood is club's mangled transfer strategy play

Andy Mitten


The December rage simmers on among Manchester United fans. It's not as febrile as two years ago when United lost four games on the bounce and went eight without a win as Louis van Gaal went past the point of no return in the eyes of the majority, but it's not great either.

First came the knockout blow from the defeat to Manchester City. Then the bloody noses from Bristol City, Leicester City and Burnley. It has been a very bad week for United and, with City over the hill and on their way to Pep Guardiola winning his first trophies at the club (Jose Mourinho has two in the same time at United), the mood isn't going to lift sometime soon. A January signing or two might help, but United won't be rushed into getting players who are the only ones available in this window.

Mourinho, as ever, is at the centre of the storm. Most United fans back him, plenty doubt him. Mourinho feels that many journalists, especially those in London who covered him at Chelsea, have it in for him. He's thought that long before the current downturn in results.

He can be confident that United fans will support him. He's only halfway into a three-year contract and he's made improvements. How big those improvements are start to be questioned when the team doesn't win. United are second against sixth a year ago and have 10 more points. That's still a considerable improvement.

Mourinho, who has also handled potentially thorny issues well like the fading force of Wayne Rooney and managed to keep David De Gea, wants more money and he'll get it.

Few will have sympathy for him given the riches he has to spend, but United are suffering from a mangled transfer policy going back to 2013. Though United are looking to appoint a director of football operations, he'll have no influence over transfers. The power is given to the manager, as it has always been at United. That obviously pleases the managers, but it becomes an ineffective way to do business when you have five managers in five years.


City, meanwhile, have the sporting director model, one that Pep Guardiola is comfortable working with, especially as he shares a football vision with Txiki Begiristain. When Guardiola was appointed Barcelona's first-team boss in 2008, Dani Alves was already signing. Begiristain did that and Guardiola -- rightly -- trusted him. City have been building longer and buying better, but City have also missed out on some players including Alves, whose partner preferred to live in Paris rather than Prestbury. Still, they've got it right more than United and that's clear to see on the pitch.

United? Radamel Falcao, Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Matteo Darmian, Memphis Depay, Bastian Schweinsteiger and Morgan Schneiderlin cost a lot of money in transfer fees and wages. You won't find many people arguing that they were worth it. There are doubts that many more aren't true United calibre.

Further down, the scouting area has been completely reorganised, with massive global investment. The under-resourced youth system is now receiving levels of investment similar to Manchester City and Chelsea. Van Gaal's priority was never going to be youth in his last job as a manager.

United also lost Sir Alex Ferguson and chief executive David Gill, a respected figure at the club and in football, in 2013. With them went invaluable know-how, as was immediately evident when Gill's replacement Ed Woodward, a banker, said the team didn't need a lot of "re-tooling".

United fans are annoyed because the reality isn't palatable. At the start of this season, they believed their boss when he said he was confident that he had a squad strong enough to win the title. It didn't feel like baloney this season like it did last. At the beginning of this month after the team beat Arsenal, United fans felt they could give City a better run for their money than has transpired.

The mood at Carrington has nosedived -- it's natural at any football club when results turn south. All the frustrations come to fore -- among players, among fans, among officials -- when the team don't win; frustrations over tactics, over the moody manager who really doesn't seem to be enjoying managing United. There are questions about the team's style, its identity. Whatever anyone says about parking buses, there's far more entertainment than under Van Gaal. Mourinho, in turn, has his own frustrations as he tries to bring in the players he wants.

Frustrations over a manager are nothing new, even when Ferguson had been hugely successful. Ferguson was heavily criticised in the summer of 1995 only a year after winning the club's first ever domestic double. He was criticised by his boss, who felt he'd taken his eye off the ball, in 1998. He won the treble a year later. Ferguson was criticised in 2002 with fans singing out loud for him to return to a 4-4-2 formation and criticised again in 2005, especially so after the unpopular Glazer takeover.

United also face more competition now than then. It's not only just Arsenal who can go toe to toe anymore, but the immensely wealthy powers of Chelsea and Manchester City.

United aren't in a great place this week, but what's the solution? Another change of manager is unlikely to help. For better or worse, Mourinho needs backing. He's right to want more support from a usually flat Old Trafford, too. Fans can do more. And too many United fans need to lose their sense of entitlement. Expectations should be high -- it's Manchester United -- but no club in the history of world football has dominated consistently.

Barcelona won one European Cup before 2006. Real Madrid didn't get beyond the round of 16 in the Champions League for six consecutive season between 2005-2010. Liverpool, the second most popular English club with the trophies to back it up, haven't won a league title since 1990. And what of the past greats? Ajax? Hamburg? Celtic? Inter Milan? AC Milan, the best team in Europe a decade ago, are 11th in Serie A. Imagine following Red Star Belgrade, the best team in Europe in 1991. War and politics have destroyed their fortunes so much that reaching the Champions League group stage is now considered a success.

United fans have been fortunate in so many ways, and one of them is playing in the Premier League, with its global reach. Fortunate to be spoiled rotten with success between 1990-2013, too. That was one hell of a run. City won nothing for 35 years until 2011.

Now is not United's time, but the team is still second in the league as it prepares to face a sliding Southampton side in what feels like a must-win game. And United are still in the Champions League with a winnable game against Sevilla. Things could be better, but they could be much, much worse.

CapitalCee:
I have been asking for Sanchez since the summer, why can't we just sign that guy, let city not buy him oo. Why not buy Dybala and Perisic also snap up Ozil. Then go for a world class defender offload smalling, Damian and Blind. Use their money to buy sessegnon. Also get rid of Herrera to teams like Eibar or Levente. Lingard is developing into a good squad player and martial is turning into a world class. I see Ranaldo and Rooney combo in those two.

Will united pay what this clubs will ask if we go for them because post-neymar they will charge us hell? Will the fans want us to get them without saying Mourinho will convert them to defenders? Many questions and obvious answers.

Football today is money, money, money now. Anybody still preaching academy youth development is fooling himself. We must spend, spend, spend and with Mourinho we are already approaching 3 years of some stability and upward progress but now we want him sacked so another manager can come and start all over again and when we fail..he'll say he's in massive rebuilding job, he needs more time.

BlueAngel444:
Pogba and Lukaku had worldwide recognition before they were bought. Man U paid what Madrid and Chelsea were reluctant to pay for Pogba and Lukaku - 90m.

You don't do that for a second choice. Baily is a top signing, Mkhi was a top signing. Victor also a back up CB incase of injuries to Baily, Jones or Stones.
Matic a top DM in EPL with 2 EPL medals.

Most of them were signed even before the season began.

What were you Chelsea fans calling Matic before he left? Baily top signing? Played his first full season with Villarreal before we got him and is now looking like an injury prone player -Jury is still out. !! Lukaku? worldwide ke...He was doing well in an average team and that was that. Is it not here people call him jambody, flat-track bully and all? Miki was doing well at dortmund and has now regressed for whatever reasons we DON'T KNOW! Pogba is the only name that had gone on to do something that reverberated across Europe and worth mentioning among an elite group of stars. Even he is still as inconsistent as any kid out there. Mourinho bought well compared to the other pretenders from previous two managers but we still need quality 'he was fantastic at his previous club' kind of players not 'he tried at that club' type of players We now have enough.

nitrogen:
This is getting interesting o.

So, you think that the players he bought might not have been his number 1 targets.

Chief, trust me, those players bought by Mourinho are his type of players, jambody, strong, players. Funny thing is, they are very good players, man management and tactics are killing the team.

Am saying you should stop saying that he didn't get his targets, he may need more money, after all Pep is looking to spend more in January, but to say that he's spent less or he couldn't get his targets. Forget it, abeg.

Macheter ins in 2016: Claudio Bravo (Barcelona), Ilkay Gundogan (Borussia Dortmund), Gabriel Jesus (Palmeiras), Marlos Moreno (Atletico Nacional), Nolito (Celta Vigo), Leroy Sane (Schalke), John Stones (Everton), Oleksandr Zinchenko (FC Ufa)

United got four players.

Machester ins in 2017

July 24: Benjamin Mendy from AS Monaco.

July 23 update: Danilo £27m, five-year deal.

July 15 update: Kyle Walker £45m. five-year contract.

Douglas Luiz, from Brazilian club Vasco da Gama, £10m fee, loaned out to City’s sister club Girona.

Bernardo Silva, aged 22, reported £43.6m, five-year deal.

June 8 update: Ederson Moraes joining them in a £34.7m deal from Benfica. This is a British record transfer fee for a goalkeeper, with City eclipsing the £18.9m Manchester United paid Atletico Madrid in June 2011, to bring David de Gea to Old Trafford.

And united got 3.


14 players over 2 years is a starting eleven complete compared to 7 over two years. United needed quality and quality isn't cheap hence our huge outlay on players. If the club has realised this then they should be willing and ready to invest even more before we are left further behind. I don't give a fvck if we are a billion dollar team. We should go out there and scare opponents with good football played by world class players. City has shown they will spend if the manager identifies weakness in the team or mistakes in his transfers. They want to get more defenders, go for players like Sanchez. We should be responding in kind with quality players not some of the average malcom and soler we are linked to.

patrickmuf:
Your combined 11 and bench of City and United?
Mou has a 3 year contract and 6 transfer windows, he used more than 300m already thus if we're going by what Paddy quoted Mou won't be spending again but we both know it's not true, Mou will likely spend in January and come next summer, we'll set out for another heavy outlay on players...The club is really trying in terms of funding for player purchases and overhead cost.

But not enough. It' not we are not winning small small things by the side. There's hope we will soon get to the top. Just a few more players, a lil hope the manager will adapt his philosophy with better attacking players. It will happen just time. I don't like all this Chelshit sack and employ fans want to turn us to.

BlueAngel444:
In their defence, Mou is making it sound like enough money wasn't spent by the club, (real money 300+m).

What exactly does he want to buy, Bale, Griezmann, Dybala, Hazard.

I really don't think Mourinho will call out for signings in a press conference if Ed and the board really got him what he wanted. I may not know what happened behind the scene but it's possible some of the so called players he got weren't even his actual targets.. We might have paid the fees for those type of players for second rate players because our transfer proficiency since David Gill had been shambolic. Ever manager has a list prepared for the season and dude must have not got his first choice targets and e still dey pain am till now.

patrickmuf:
I said you can argue for or against and I was not mincing words, now, let's see your combined City-United 11 and the players you have on the bench, please oblige me...
Back to the crux of the matter, who said our funds for transfers were pegged at 150m or how are we operating on a limited budget...A coach that splashes 75m plus add-ons on one player doesn't sound like one operating on a limited budget, for limited budget, check Pochettino at Spurs...And it's well documented that Mou said he wanted 3-4 players and on several occasions he admitted that he'd be very okay with Ed getting 3 of his targets and the 4th was gonna be the icing on the cake so where you're getting your lines hinged on limited budget is something we'd love to have here...We got 3 his targets and the 4th was outrageously overpriced for his age and talent. You can't be complaining that Monaco fleeced us for the amount quoted for Martial whose best years are ahead of him and on another hand criticizing the club for not paying over the odds for a 29/30yrs old winger whose is best operating from the left where you have Martial and other who can comfortably do a job there, Rashford, Young, Mkhitaryan, Lingard etc

Really? Martial, Rashford, Mikitaryan and Lingard can comfortably do a job on the left wing. Let's keep pushing players to parts of the pitch that aren't theirs and saying they can do a comfortable job there. On the transfer budget thing, i first saw it in a MEN article were paddy Crerand was quoted as saying Mourinho was given a £200 million budget for his 1st year and £150 for the remaining two years. I have checked our expenditures for 1st and 2nd season and it seems to follow. How else would we explain the reluctance to pay Perisic's fee while persisting with the player for so long as if there weren't other options out there?