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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 11:09pm On Feb 06, 2019
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 10:57pm On Feb 06, 2019
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 2:24am On Feb 06, 2019
Barristter07:
grin Jesus himself went to heaven to enjoy himself .

grin grin grin



grin



liar


grin Big time liar



Asiru TU . grin grin Lie exposed .



grin grin
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:



poor tormented lie lie barrister, all of your accusations to me are of course false
but they are true concerning you, you false jw's often are talking about yourselves when lying about christians

but then you are just taking after your forefathers the pharisees
they even lied against Jesus, as you do, saying He is "a god", His body wasn't raised, etc. etc.

Mat 12:24  But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

^^^ evil pharisees-evil false jw's




lie lie barrister, you haven't hung around but have run away again, scared smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 2:04am On Feb 06, 2019
johnw47: and that's what the person of the Word of God is, A Spirit
Barristter07: Asiru TU . grin grin Lie exposed .


grin grin
truly know nothing lie lie barrister, the Word of God is a Spirit:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit:


the word became man:

Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh,


lie lie blunderer, there is no end to your lies twisting and your very great confusion,
but then you are a false jw smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 1:46am On Feb 06, 2019
Barristter07:
Between That flesh and Spirit , Which is the real person of Jesus ? Question 1.
lie lie barrister
oh duh kindergarten nonsense,
again: both Jesus flesh and His Spirit is Jesus
the flesh died and the Spirit went to His Father, scriptures below




Barristter07: Well play grin ordinary body died BUT Jesus himself went to heaven to enjoy himself .

grin grin grin
oh duh duh
you are playing, playing nonsense that is, i am being factual
the same things over and over again from you,
again: of course Jesus body died
of course He went in the Spirit to His Father, scriptures below

only a fool and would say "to enjoy himself" which scripture doesn't say
Pro_13:16  Every prudent man dealeth with knowledge: but a fool layeth open his folly.





Barristter07: Well play again, You are confessing small small grin

So na body died ?

Jesus himself went preaching , SO JESUS HIMSELF WAS NEVER DEAD.
lie lie your confusion is unbelievable, for the 4th time, Jesus the man did die,
and again Jesus did go in the Spirit to preach to the Spirits in prison, scriptures below



Barristter07: He said " I " have not yet ascended

I " is a personal pronoun for Jesus. Either bodily or not , He hasn't ascended. liar

If he has ascended, that statement means he lied.

So Jesus was lying to Mary Johnw74?

Where did he say I mean bodily ? grin Big time liar
poor tormented lie lie barrister
from the scriptures below Jesus did go in the spirit to His Father and to the spirits in prison
so obviously when Jesus said to mary don't touch me, He was referring to His body which didn't ascend to his Father for another 40 days




Barristter07: Asiru TU . grin grin Lie exposed .

Jesus person is Spirit. . hmmm so that his body is just an ordinary carcass. The PERSON of Jesus has return to heaven , while its ordinary body that died


In short, Jesus never die cos his real person is Spirit .

grin grin
truly confused lie lie barrister when a human body dies that person is dead, laughing
spirits return to the Father, scriptures below
you should change your user name from barrister to blunderer


lie lie barrister
look at all your lying, false accusing, twisting and confusion
and all because you don't believe God's word the Bible

and all you have done is repeated the things from your previous post that i answered, why?
because you have nothing, of course, smile

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



lie lie barrister,
truly:
Christ did die
His Spirit did go to His Father at death
and He did go in the Spirit to talk to the spirits in prison

Rom_5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Ecc_12:7  Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison
;



the Word became flesh
when the flesh-Jesus the man, died
His Spirit, the Word of God returned to his Father, and also talked to the spirits in prison
the Word returned to Jesus after 3 days and raised Jesus temple-body as he said he would

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God. 
Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Joh_2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

of course you lie lie barrister won't understand or believe any of this,
especially the scriptures,
but at least you keep showing how you false jw's love to lie lie and do the twist on everything smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 11:58pm On Feb 05, 2019
Barristter07:
Stop been scared, do what I ask you to do and the fact will emerge
lie lie barrister

scared of you, ha ha

if defining soul and body shows something i have said to be wrong
then do it lie lie and stop running away


now stick around and don't run away again scardy cat,
i will be back with reply to your other ridiculous know nothing post
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 11:50pm On Feb 05, 2019
CAPTIVATOR:
Broz respond and define what U are asked
false jw cap
it's very easy to define soul and body, if i didn't know it i could easy look it up
for the third time i don't take assignments from satans mob

however you or lie lie define soul and body
and if you like i will tell you if you are right or wrong


also if you or lie lie think the definition of soul and body
effects what i have posted then say so and i will put you straight

cap see how duh you still are
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 12:58pm On Feb 05, 2019
CAPTIVATOR:
Define it first!

Barrister cannot beat you Now grin
false jw cap
You think you are onto something don't you
make yourself clear if possible, and I will show you that you are still a duh
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47:
Barristter07:
Yeeeparipa grin grin grin I now know why Jozzy4 Call una 419 grin.



Hahahahaha , 4,1,10 grin be lying on Jesus head.



Liar johnw74 grin grin ..



Liar grin



grin ;

Liarrrrrrrrrrr



Liar Johnw74



All your lies has been exposed above
tormented false accuser, know nothing, hysterical, lie lie barrister

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47:
Barristter07:
Yeeeparipa grin grin grin I now know why Jozzy4 Call una 419 grin.
lie lie barrister
tormented lie lie, as you will see by this post, you know nothing




Barristter07: His spirit . Jesus himself didn't ascend to heaven
ha ha duh, Jesus Spirit, the Word of God certinally did go to His Father
His flesh body remained dead in the tomb for 3 days, oh duh duh



Barristter07: Hahahahaha , 4,1,10 grin be lying on Jesus head.

John 20:17

Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father.


I have not. I ( Jesus ) have not.

He didn't say I have ascended but not bodily.

Liar johnw74 grin grin John 8:44..

Regarding what happened 40 days later.


" Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"


He never ascend until that time !

Liar grin



Jesus didn't go to his Father or heaven the day he died. grin ;

Liarrrrrrrrrrr



That happened after his ressurection .

The son of man will be in the earth for 3 days and 3night. Liar Johnw74



All your lies has been exposed above
ha ha ha, quadruple duh, see the tormented laughing accusing fool

of course Jesus Spirit the Word of God went to His Father when His body died
Luk 23:46  And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

commend
παρατίθημι
paratithēmi
par-at-ith'-ay-mee
to place alongside, that is, present -set before.


Jesus flesh body remained in the tomb for three days after which time Jesus Spirit the Word of God
returned to it

Jesus the Word of God also went and talked to the spirits in prison while his body was in the tomb
1Pe 3:18  For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 
1Pe 3:19  By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

when Jesus said to mary don't touch me for i have not ascended to the Father
of course like i said Jesus was talking about not having bodily ascended to His Father which happens 40 days later,
and we know that He Jesus the Word of God did ascend to His Father in the Spirit,
and that's what the person of the Word of God is, A Spirit

if you want more scriptures for any of this just ask
otherwise i won't waste the time on such a know nothing nonbeliever


Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


truly Jesus died:

1Co_15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;



truly Jesus spirit went to His Father, and then Jesus went in the spirit and preached to the spirits in prison:

Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47:
Barristter07:
Fake Can never be original! grin grin
Hehehehehe..
fake jw's can never be the original pharisees
is that what you mean?

Barristter07: If you belief Jesus died for you, Do what I ask you to do !.

To prove the bold is wrong or not, Define (A) Soul (B) Body .. Do that ! grin
lie lie barristter
it's very easy to define soul and body from the internet if i didn't know the meaning myself
but you know i don't do assignments for false jw's-satans mob

however i will repeat: "you believe a persons dead body doesn't mean the person died", laughing
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 5:31am On Feb 04, 2019
God is a Spirit, john 4:24, = God is the Holy Spirit, duh know nothing jano/onej, laugh

2 Cor. 3:16-18, "but whenever a man turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.



of course you lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej do not have the Holy spirit living in you
and being of the world you think the Holy Spirit is an impersonable power

John 14:17, "that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you."



Act 5:1  But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 
Act 5:2  And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. 
Act 5:3  But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 
Act 5:4  Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 4:31am On Feb 04, 2019
Janosky: Johnw lying Pharisee,coman explain how your 'holy ghost' fits into your Godkind?
Lol
lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej
okay, a little on God the Holy spirit for you
you know that people are human-humankind
and you know that lions are animal-animalkind
and you know that roses are plant-plantkind

and i have shown that Father and the Word is God-Godkind
now to show from an article that the Holy Spirit is God-Godkind




Verses showing identity, ministry, and personhood of the Holy Spirit
by a christian


The Holy Spirit mentioned on equal level with God

1. Matt. 28:19, "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,"
2. 2 Cor. 13:14, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all."
3. Eph. 4:4-6, "There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all."
4. 2 Cor. 3:16-18, "but whenever a man turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit."

Names of the Holy Spirit

1. Spirit of God
Rom. 8:9, "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him." See also Gen. 1:2
2. Spirit of Christ
Rom. 8:9, "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him."
3. Spirit of your Father
Matt. 10:20, "For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you."
4. The Spirit of Truth
John 14:17, "that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you." See also, John 15:26.
5. The Spirit of the Lord
Acts 8:39, "And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away; and the eunuch saw him no more, but went on his way rejoicing." See also Judges 15:14; 1 Sam. 16:12

The Holy Spirit is referred to as a person by scripture

1. Who
Rom. 8:11, "But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who indwells you."
John 6:63, "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life."
1 John 5:6, "And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth."
See also 1 Cor. 2:12; 2 Tim. 1:14;
2. He
John 14:26, "These things I have spoken to you, while abiding with you. "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
3. Himself
Rom. 8:16, "The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,"
Rom. 8:26, "And in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;"

Personhood of the Holy Spirit (has emotions, is aware, speaks, knows, etc.)

1. Grieves
Isaiah 63:10, "But they rebelled and grieved His Holy Spirit; Therefore, He turned Himself to become their enemy, He fought against them."
Eph. 4:30, "And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption."
2. Loves
Rom. 15:30, "Now I urge you, brethren, by our Lord Jesus Christ and by the love of the Spirit, to strive together with me in your prayers to God for me."
3. Has a mind
Rom. 8:27, "and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God."
4. Speaks
2 Sam. 23:2, "The Spirit of the LORD spoke through me; his word was on my tongue."
Acts 8:29, "And the Spirit said to Philip, "Go up and join this chariot."
Acts 10:19, "And while Peter was reflecting on the vision, the Spirit said to him, "Behold, three men are looking for you."
Acts 11:12, "And the Spirit told me to go with them without misgivings. And these six brethren also went with me, and we entered the man’s house."
Acts 13:2, "And while they were ministering to the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them."
Acts 21:11, "And coming to us, he took Paul’s belt and bound his own feet and hands, and said, "This is what the Holy Spirit says: ‘In this way the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.’"
Acts 28:25-26, "And when they did not agree with one another, they began leaving after Paul had spoken one parting word, "The Holy Spirit rightly spoke through Isaiah the prophet to your fathers, saying, ‘Go to this people and say, "You will keep on hearing, but will not understand."
1 Tim. 4:1, "But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,"
Heb. 3:7-8, "Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says, 'Today if you hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as when they provoked Me, as in the day of trial in the wilderness,"
Rev. 2:7, "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the Paradise of God." See also Rev. 2:11, 17, 29; 3:6, 13, 22.
Rev. 14:13, "And I heard a voice from heaven, saying, "Write, ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on!’" "Yes," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow with them."
Rev. 22:17, "And the Spirit and the bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost."
5. Knows
1 Cor. 2:11, "For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man, which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God."
Has an awareness of goodness
Acts 15:28, "For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials."
6. Can be lied to
Acts 5:3, "But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back some of the price of the land?"
7. Can be tested
Acts 5:9, "Then Peter said to her, 'Why is it that you have agreed together to put the Spirit of the Lord to the test?'"
8. Makes overseers
Acts 20:28, "Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood."
9. Can be a witness
Acts 5:32, "And we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him."
10. Can be resisted
Acts 7:51, "You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit."

Activities of the Holy Spirit

1. Teaches
John 14:26, "These things I have spoken to you, while abiding with you. "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
Luke 12:12, "for the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say."
2. Intercedes
Rom. 8:26, "And in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;"
3. Leads
Matt. 4:1, "Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil."
4. Gives life
John 6:63, "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life."
5. Filled by
Acts 2:4, "And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit was giving them utterance."

Forms of the Holy Spirit

1. Dove
Matt. 3:16, "And after being baptized, Jesus went up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon Him."

Miscellaneous

1. Can be spoken against
Matt. 12:32, "And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come."
2. Can be baptized with the Holy Spirit
Mark 1:8, "I baptized you with water; but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit."
3. The Spirit is given
John 3:34, "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for He gives the Spirit without measure."
4. The Spirit is received
John 20:22, "And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit."
5. The Spirit forbids
Acts 16:6, "And they passed through the Phrygian and Galatian region, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia."
6. The Spirit searches all things
1 Cor. 2:10, "For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God."
7. The Spirit is the truth
1 John 5:6, "And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth."
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 2:24am On Feb 04, 2019
Janosky:
Shut up there.
U have said here that "Father and the word is two person in one spirit which is God",
oh duh yet again false jw jano/onej
of course Father and the Word is two persons in God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

and of course God is a Spirit:
Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


Janosky: (U done confuse u dey forget your "Father and I are one" mantra).
lying pharisee jano/onej, of course i haven't forgotten that Father and Jesus are two persons in the one true God,
look at john 1 again, above, ha ha ha

jano/onej
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky: In other words, the son is the God the father is.
Why u dey deceive yourself dey shift 'goal post?'
confused deceiving jano/onej
no goal post moved, you just very very confused and blinded,
that comes from hating the truth:
2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky: Johnw lying Pharisee,coman explain how your 'holy ghost' fits into your Godkind?
Lol
completely confused lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej
you are as confused as hell and cannot understand the simplicity of Father and Son being God
and you don't believe the bible verses that show such
and you wan't to know how the Holy Spirit fits in, laughing

do you want me to post bible verses showing that the Holy Spirit is God?
i'm happy to, smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 12:50am On Feb 04, 2019
Janosky:
Rubbish for the incinerator.

* OLAADEGBU & his fellow Pharisees are liars.
* Because his son, Olaadegbu Jnr has the nature of his father, OTUNBA OLAADEGBU, therefore, the son is definitely OTUNBA OLAADEGBU, may your sons never have this wacky thought IJNA.
lying pharisee jano/onej
confusion is your middle name

Olaadegbu Jnr is not the person of OTUNBA OLAADEGBU, Olaadegbu Jnr and OTUNBA OLAADEGBU are human
the same as
Jesus is not the person of His Father, Jesus and His Father are God, john 1 plus

deceiver jano/onej
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 12:42am On Feb 04, 2019
false jw's have always been around

Psa 62:4  They only consult to cast him down from his excellency: they delight in lies: they bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly. Selah.
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 12:40am On Feb 04, 2019
TATIME:
They're all confused,it's only Olaadegbu that is proud to mention Kumuyi's Church as his place of worship while johnyjohny,Hairy,brocab,achorladey and the rest are lost calling themselves Nonedenominational! embarassed embarassed embarassed
All of them don't have ANYTHING against the TRUTH than dogmatically been heady about Catholic's TRINITY,yet they are all against Catholic church as that one stands gidigba with it's original Gods of images! cheesy cheesy cheesy
But why are they sticking to the teachings of Catholics when they're against Catholic herself?
Well don't think they are naive,the answer is simple, They don't want Jehovah's organisation {TRUTH} wink wink wink
false jw tatime
your usual know nothing garbage, of course

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

keep trying to convince yourself tat that fales jw is the truth, laughing

everything about false jw is false, just a little of it here;
https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/239#75019765
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47:
Janosky:
That's what to expect from a gullible follower of "My Pastor said" fables.
The satanic doctrines & "motivational fairytale" of your pastorpreneurs are more important to you than the sacred words of the holy scriptures.
Lol.


Man was "created in God's image" (irrevocable & sacrosanct) but u wan "grow into the image of God", (or rather,'image of your triune pagan gods.')
Follower of my pastor said fables.
U just dey do all this write up here to console yourself,because your pastorpreneurs' satanic doctrines were laid bare for all to see....
Do,do,do,do......
now lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej
everyone knows that it's false jw's who are polytheist and believe in multiple gods
a almighty god father and a mighty god jesus

but truly Almighty and Mighty are two names-titles for the one true God

want scriptures again? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 1:29am On Feb 02, 2019
TATIME:
Jesus is Jehovah,but Jesus begs Jehovah for help whereas Jehovah has NEVER begs anyone for help. Hmmmmmmmm now it's evident that Satan has a powerful grip on people with the tool called TRADITION.
Just imagine simplest logic that people will beat the stupidity out of their children,grownups will stick to it simply because that's what they've been taught even when they're SEEING that it's senseless and not working! embarassed embarassed embarassed
false jw tatime, talk about being blinded, you false jw's repeat the same things over and over again, which have been explained:
2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

duh, Jehovah is a name for God
God and the Word is God, john 1 = God and the Word is Jehovah
two persons in one God

let us make man in our image, genesis 1

Father and I will make our abode in you, john 14

etc. etc. etc.


YAHWEH
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:




YAHWEH
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;





YAHWEH
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 YAHWEH is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty god as false jw believe.




YAHWEH
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.





YAHWEH
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.




YAHWEH
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

YAHWEH was pierced
Jesus was pierced



YAHWEH
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 1:06am On Feb 02, 2019
Jehovah-Jesus gives us strength:

Isa 40:31  But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. 

Php 4:13  I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47:
Janosky:
My comments & criticism of your satanic doctrine has put the pressure on you to admit that Jesus is the son of God.
false jw jano/onej
duh, of course i have always known that Jesus is the Son of His Father God
but you lying pharisee deceiver jano /onej when you lie you are just talking your natural talk,
like your daddy devil:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky: Still, you have towed the path of lies & stupidity -" Jesus is Jehovah", that's the same thing as saying that your son, Johnw junior is the Father, Johnw lying Pharisee.
oh duh again, Jesus is not the Father He is the Son, ha ha
Father and Son is God, john 1:1

and of course Jesus is Jehovah, Jehovah is a name of God, Father and the Word is God, john 1:1, plus many others


Janosky: Pls tell your son he is you,his father.
That's how stupid you have become. Lol
what i would say to my son is: don't mind jano/onej he is false jw and sooooooo confused

son would say: ha ha gee i could see that dad


2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47:
Barristter07:
grin grin that one case is Strong
lie lie barrister

you and lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej would definately know all about that subject of stupidity, ha ha
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 1:00am On Feb 01, 2019
Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee& your fellow Pharisee who liked your post are crooks like your father the Devil.
lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej

you are tormented that someone liked my post
too bad smiley

Janosky: * 1John2:22 speaks against u
Johnw lying Pharisee.
of course i don't deny that Jesus is the Christ, you lie yet again lying pharisee:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
1Jn 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

however you jano/onej do deny the Father and the Son in saying God's son is "a god", "a angel"
you are antichrist jano/onej

Janosky: Your satanic doctrine denies Jesus is the son of Jehovah God by lying that "Jesus is God'
just more lying accusations from you lying pharisee jano/onej
Jesus is the Son of God:
Joh_5:25  Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
Father and the Word come Jesus Christ is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 


Janosky: Again, your lie denies the Father's Supremacy as Almighty God by lying that Jesus is Jehovah, (1Cor11:3, Ps83:18).
But,whereas, JWs have consistently provided strong scriptural evidence that Jesus is the Christ & the son of Jehovah who is inferior to his Father.(John 14:28" the Father is greater than I"wink.
lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej
false accuser you cannot stop lying, Father and the Word is God, john 1:1 plus many others =
Father and the Word is Almighty-Mighty God, ask and i will post the scriptures again

Jesus is Jehovah, ask and i will post those scriptures again also

Jesus is the Christ and the Son of the Father

The Father is greater than the Son


come back with more lies and confusion lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej
it's all you have smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 12:00am On Feb 01, 2019
Janosky: Johnw lying Pharisee and Mr twister of the holy scriptures, deludes himself.
I repeat, go and quarrel with your Thesaurus/ Dictionary for exposure of your deceit & delusion.
Stupidity unleashed !

"My people talk say na "small breeze wey blow dey open fowl yan*h "
lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej

you keep copycatting in lies what is said to you in truth
you keep talking about yourself smiley

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:53pm On Jan 31, 2019
Janosky:
Stupidity unleashed.
lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej

no it's true, i will repeat it again for you:



i agree
billions of people (plural) are human kind (singular)
just as Father and the Word (plural) are God kind (singular)


lions are anmal kind
daisy's are plant kind
angels are spirit kind, as God is, but angels of course are not God kind

only God and the Word is God kind, and the Holy Spirit, but that's more difficult to explain


jano/onej
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:43pm On Jan 31, 2019
Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee and Mr twister of the holy scriptures, deludes himself.
I repeat, go and quarrel with your Thesaurus/ Dictionary for exposure of your deceit & delusion.
Stupidity unleashed !

"My people talk say na "small breeze wey blow dey open fowl yan*h "
lying pharisee deceiver jano/onej

of course you don't understand anything
see post after post all you have is your bad devil mouth:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:07pm On Jan 31, 2019
Emusan:
You keep exposing your ignorance.

TO OTHER ENTITIES billions of people living in the world are ONE HUMAN meaning we have the same essence/nature.

Human do refer to things like
ANIMAL
PLANT
SPIRIT

Whereas within them there are classes of them...but to us snake, fish, eagle are ANIMAL



Why are we called Human?

You're a human
I'm a human

Why not spirit, Animal, Ghost e.t.c



But you change everything about Him and deny His deity.
i agree
billions of people (plural) are human kind (singular)
just as Father and the Word (plural) are God kind (singular)


lions are anmal kind
daisy's are plant kind
angels are spirit kind, as God is, but angels of course are not God kind

only God and the Word is God kind, and the Holy Spirit, but that's more difficult to explain
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 6:46am On Jan 31, 2019
Father and Son is God, john 1:1 plus a multitude of verses

1Co 12:3  Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord(kurios), but by the Holy Ghost.

of course false jw's cannot say that Jesus is the Lord-God


kurios
κύριος
kurios
koo'-ree-os
From κῦρος kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, title): - God, Lord


and of course the Holy Spirit wouldn't be needed for anyone, atheist, sectarian, or whoever
to say: Jesus is "a god" or Jesus was "just a man", any fool even could say things like that
but the Holy Spirit is needed to say Jesus is Lord-God
as we christians say
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47:
TATIME:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/8629544_img20181206180527753_jpeg71c08df75eba31a050ceb866c82979af
"do you understand the trinity"


you certinally don't false jw tatime
lets see how many lies you have there against Father and Son


1.Father didn't ask Himself to go to earth to save man
He asked the Word

2.the Word didn't agree with Himself
He agreed with Father

3.the word didn't volunteer Himself to Himself
He volunteered Himself to Father

4.Jesus didn't pray to himself
Jesus prayed to His Father

5.Jesus didn't glorify Himself repeatedly
He glorified His Father repeatedly

6.Jesus didn't strenghten Himself
but Father strenghened Him

7.Jesus never talked to Himself
but talked to His Father

8.Father never forsook Himself
Jesus disciples forsook Jesus and fled

9.Jesus never sacrificed Himself to prove His loyalty to Himself
Jesus was sacrificed for the sins of the world


Jesus did resurrect Himself, that one was obviously gotten right by mistake


10.Jesus didn't exalt Himself above Himself
Father exlted Jesus

11.Jesus didn't sit down at His own right hand
but sat at Fathers right hand

12.Father would not turn everything over to Himself
but would turn everything over to Jesus

13.not all things would become everything to Father
but all things would become everything to Jesus



false jw tatime you don't know that Father and the word is God
but you sure do love to mock Him


1Jn 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

an antichrist doesn't just deny the Son, he denies Father and Son
mockingly saying things like: "God prayed to himself and glorified himself repeatedly"

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Father and Son are of course two persons in God
not two gods as you false jw tatime believe
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 3:29am On Jan 31, 2019
Barristter07: The body is just a house where the Soul lives , So how can Jesus body ( ordinary house) dying means Jesus died ?
lie lie barrister
you believe a persons dead body doesn't mean the person died, laughing

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


you false jw's are so duh, laugh
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47:
Barristter07:
Jesus spirit return to the Father! - Luke 23:46
certainly did

Barristter07: But Jesus himself said he hasn't return to the Father - John 20:17
Jesus was speaking about not having bodily ascended, that happened 40 day's later

Barristter07: grin grin Jesus is not the spirit that return to the Father.
lie lie barrister
Jesus certainaly is the Spirit that returned to His Father, duh
it was Jesus in the Spirit that preached to the spirits in prison

1Pe 3:18  For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 
1Pe 3:19  By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 

lie lie, you must think the spirits in prison are not beings also
who-what then was Jesus preaching to, the wind?
you are so duh smiley


Barristter07: So Mr Johnw74, the above shed light on the fact that u have been lying all along.
ha ha ha, says you lie lie barrister who has been shown to be wrong all along

talking about light lie lie, there is only dense darkness with you:
Mat_6:23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

Barristter07: cheesy grin tell us what happen to Jesus himself- did his Soul [himself] died or just his body died NOT Jesus . ??
lie lie barrister, your confusion is only matched by your lies:
1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 2:29am On Jan 31, 2019
Barristter07:
I will ask the question again but first

Define soul and body

U this liar, oya
lie lie false accuser barrister

you will ask a question again because i showed you were wrong, laugh

you do your own definitions and i will tell you if you are right or wrong

of course all you have are false accusations
you have nothing else, you are of your daddy devil, smile

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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