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johnw47:
so lying, deceiving, pharisee false jw jano/onej, why can't you answer?


"did you post as OneJ" .....simple enough question

lying pharisee jano/onej
ha ha, you cannot say the truth at all

but lies flow easily from your lips

TATIME:
Thanks and God bless you Sir!

false jw tatime
glad you believed me this time

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee ,Mr Twister , Jesus is not YAHWEH

lying pharisee jano/onej
there is nothing twisted about God's word that I posted showing that Jesus is Jehovah, but I do understand how a son of the devil would say God's word is twisted

TATIME:
Our conviction wasn't from arguing FACELESSLY but by CAREFULLY reading,studying,meditating and praying to God. And we continue to observe what God's people are teaching us to do including the remarkable achievements of Jehovah's Witnesses that's indisputable.
It's even against our norms "debating or arguing with those who feels they knew what they're doing" talkless FACELESS debates!
So thank you and God bless you Sir!

false jw tatime
the trouble with your meditating and praying to your father the devil is that he tells you lies which you then preach to all who you can reach on faceless social media

lying pharisee jano/onej
the pharisees of old said Jesus isn't
God
you deceiving jano/onej agree with your pharisee forefathers

poor tormented pharisees tatime and jano/onej etc.
you have been trying to convince christians and yourselves
for hundreds of pages in this thread alone that you are God's people, ha ha

you fail miserably, but keep trying, it is possible that you will convince yourselves

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee the evidence against u is overwhelming.

Heb1:1-3 says. Jesus is a spokesman for Jehovah," appointed heir" by Jehovah & permitted to sit at Jehovah's right hand.
v4 Jehovah gave Jesus an inheritance, (because johnw no get sense , this Pharisee keeps lying that "Jesus is Jehovah".
v5,6 Jehovah says Jesus his son was "begotten/first begotten" , that is created/ first created.

"begotten" means to "father or produce as offspring.
You might recognize this word from John 3:16,one of the popular & most quoted Bible verses:
'For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son ..."
https://www.vocabulary.com.dictionary/begotten

The evidence shows that Jesus is not Jehovah.

*heb1:8 quoted psalms 45:6 which originally applied to kings David & Solomon.
If that fraud ("thy throne, O God" was the correct wording, the Jews would have said& believed that kings David or Solomon was Jehovah. But they never did nor jumped to such wrong conclusion.

"God is your throne forever" ...
That is the proper expression.
Luke 1:31-33. 1chro28:5. 1chr29:23 gives solid evidence ..

Heb1:9..." Therefore God, your God" , that is Jehovah "anointed Jesus more than "thy fellows" (Jesus fellows ) or peers.

Jehovah God has no peer.
"In no way is anyone like you 'O Jehovah" Jer10:6. Ps86:8.

Jesus said he is not Jehovah.
" the Father is greater than I"
John 14:28
"And now, Jehovah, thou art our Father" Isa64:8


"thy fellows" or peers of Jesus are his fellow angels, not Jehovah or Jesus disciples.
The sons of Jehovah (Jesus the arch angel& fellow angels ) with their Father Jehovah God resides in. heaven

lying, deceiving, pharisee false jw jano/onej

of course you don't understand or believe God's word
and twist much of what God inspired, and keep repeating the same things
over and over again which have already been answered, but that's the way of false jw know nothings


but i am replying with God's truth yet again to a disbelieving know nothing false jw,
that truly Jesus is Jehovah:


YAHWEH
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:




YAHWEH
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;





YAHWEH
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 YAHWEH is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty god as false jw believe.




YAHWEH
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.





YAHWEH
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.




YAHWEH
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

YAHWEH was pierced
Jesus was pierced



YAHWEH
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Janosky:
The word."mumu" is a common expression online, NL not an exception.
johnw lying Pharisee for ya mind na NL "onej" get exclusive license to use the word "mumu"

so lying, deceiving, pharisee false jw jano/onej, why can't you answer?

"did you post as OneJ" .....simple enough question

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee has no scriptural proof in defense of his lies on NL.
His usual solace is name calling & John 8:44 , which exposes him.
Hallelujah > Praise Jehovah , johnw has no place to hide his falsehood.

pharisee deceiver false jw jano/onej

you say that i name call, ha ha
that would be the pot calling the kettle black

when i call a name i'm speaking true, when you call the same names back
it's copycat lying

but speaking lies is speaking naturally for you pharisee jw's:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

johnw47: lying pharisee jano

are you jano also OneJ?

it's impossible for you pharisee false jw's to admit or say a truth, isn't it jano

i will take it then from your silence that you are in fact also OneJ
but of course pharisee deceiver jano/onej, if you are not you can say so, and then i will stop showing you to be a pharisee deceiver, just a pharisee in other ways

know nothing pharisee jano, no matter how many times you lie
it won't change the fact that false jw's are the modern day pharisees:
Jesus said:
Mat_23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Janosky: Johnw lying Pharisee psalms 45:7 was a messianic prophecy applied to king David initially (1 samuel 16:7-13)& later to king Solomon/ lineage of David (1 chro29:23. 2chro13:5. Luke 1:31-33) "your God (his God YAHWEH) anointed him more than his fellows".
Later, Paul quoted psalms 45:7 (in heb 1:9) & applied it to Jesus whom angel Gabriel said would sit on the throne of David (Luke1:31-33. Luke 3:23,31-38).

Heb1:4-6,9 says Jesus received an inheritance & anointing "more than thy fellows ", other angels.
Jesus & other angels are sons of YAHWEH.

johnw lying Pharisee misquotes scriptures. all the time to cover his lies.
U & your pagan triune god worshippers corrupted heb1:8 (KJV), a quote of ps45:6.) & falsified it.
Psalms 45:6 is not saying king David or Solomon is God, YAHWEH. ( No Israelite or Jew ever believed that king David or Solomon is YAHWEH ).

Therefore , "God is your throne forever and ever" is the correct, valid & proper texts for heb1:8 & Ps45:6.
( NWT got it spot on !).
1chro29:5,23 is undisputed proof that heb1:8 KJV,ASV etc) is a fraud.
Get out ta here , Johnw lying Pharisee.

false accuser lying pharisee jano

all you can do is repeat your same lies and confusion over and over again

only you satans mob twist scripture to say Jesus is an angel
When Father God makes it so clear that Jesus is not a angel and is God:


Heb 1:1  God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 
Heb 1:2  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 
Heb 1:3  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 
Heb 1:4  Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 
Heb 1:5  For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

of course Father God never said that to any angel
 
Heb 1:6  And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 
Heb 1:7  And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 
Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 
Heb 1:10  And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 
Heb 1:11  They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 
Heb 1:12  And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. 
Heb 1:13  But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

and again, Father God never said that to any angel
 
Heb 1:14  Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? 

but of course you evil jw's twist that as you do many of the scriptures to suit your false satanic doctrines:

2Pe 3:16  As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 


Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee has no scriptural proof in defense of his lies on NL.
His usual solace is name calling & John 8:44 , which exposes him.
Hallelujah > Praise Jehovah , johnw has no place to hide his falsehood.

lying pharisee jw jano
of course i have posted scores of scriptures showing that Jesus is God,
that Jesus is Jehovah, and many others, but see pharisee jano how you cannot stop lying:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee, why did Jesus whom u lied is Yahweh receive an inheritance?
Your "jesus Yahweh"(a misnomer & appendage u gave your triune pagan god) received an inheritance from himself, because u are very foolish and a confirmed lying Pharisee, the carbon copy of your lying father (John 8:44) .

oh duh, lying pharisee jano
for the umteenth time, YAHWEH is a name for God, Father and the Word is God,
Father and the Word(Jesus) is YAHWEH as the many scriptures i keep on posting show
Yes YAHWEH-Jesus did inherit a better name than the angels, oh blinded one:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky: Of a truth, Jesus fellows were other angels, not his disciples. Only Yahweh alone gives inheritance to his subordinates,that is why Yahweh gives inheritance to Jesus which he did not give other angels.
Solid evidence that Jesus is not Yahweh, but created by Yahweh.
Heb1:1-14.

you lying pharisee jano say: "Of a truth", something you know nothing at all about, funny
and Heb 1:14 to christians shows that Jesus is not a angel, and is God
of course you satans mob twist it pathetically to try and make it say Jesus is an angel, you be antichrists

Janosky: Is Jesus an angel? Yes. He said so himself times with out number.
"Jesus answered, 'what I teach is not mine. It comes from him who SENT ME" John 7:16 .

"I am a representative from him, and THAT ONE SENT ME" John 7:29,

" the FATHER WHO SENT ME has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak"
John 12:49,50 .
Angel (Greek Aggelos, Angelos) meaning "the one who is sent, an envoy ,messenger.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/aggelos.html
*Angelos
"One who is sent ,an angel, a messenger from God"
Johnw lying Pharisee wan see title "Angel" attached to Jesus name, because his lies are senseless , he no get sense.

lying pharisee jano, Jesus never said He is a angel in those or in any verses
but you of course continue to show how you false jw's cannot stop lying

God's messangers are also warriors etc. etc. they do God's will, they are called angels,
they are a certain type of beings in heaven, they are angelic beings

Father sent the Word Jesus Christ doesn't = Jesus Christ is an angelic being, He in fact is the Word - God, john 1:1
Jesus had messages from His Father does not make Him a angelic being, a messanger for His Father, yes
i also am a messanger for YAHWEH but i'm not a angelic being,
just like you lying pharisee jano are a messanger for your father the devil, buy you are not a angelic being,
a fallen one perhaps

Jesus is not a angelic being, He of course is the Word - God, john 1:1

he had messages from His Father, oh duh, yes He did, laugh

TATIME:
GARBAGE! But you can't give any reasonable EXPLAINATION to the so called "garbage" than to continue quoting John 8:44 which is actually referring to you!

false jw tatime
of course i have shown you to be wrong with scriptures
but you false jw's when you continually lie you are just talking your natural talk

and of course you false jw's are of your father the devil
anyone saying that the Lord and Saviour of the world is "a god" is of the devil
anyone who says Jesus body was not raised is of the devil
anyone who say's there are two gods, almighty god the father and mighty god the son
is a polytheist and is of the devil
and of course anyone who is a habitual liar, is of the devil

but keep on fooling yourself false jw tatime
yes, garbage man would be a good name for you, oh

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

TATIME:
LIGHT is SEEN and IDENTIFIED by all observers my friend, so that the color it brings may be clearly stated!
Jesus called His followers the light of the world! Matthew 5:14-16
Perhaps you don't understand the attributes of LIGHT, that's why Jesus explains EXTENSIVELY to help you know what those in the light will be like in later times when Jesus and His Apostles are not physically around to say "this are the true Christians"
Light is to be seen,of course their are lots and lots of colors of electric bulbs but what matters most is if it's the light that Jesus is talking about, people from all races will SEE those in the LIGHT to compare with their own FALSE religious doctrines!
That's what all of you are doing right now, and since none of all your so called denominations can shine as brightly as the LIGHT, you're all discarding the idea of one group representing that LIGHT!
That's exactly what the numerous religious groups in Israel did to Jesus and His followers,they are divided amongst themselves with their contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings. But at the sight of Christians, they're all coming together to attack the LIGHT! Act 23:1-8

laugh, the usual garbage from you false jw tatime

Jesus said about you evil sons of the devil:
Mat_6:23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

TATIME:
Go out to PREACH and TEACH those living next to you(in your neighborhood),let them learn both theory and practical from you. That's what Jesus did and COMMANDED His followers to KEEP doing the same, NOT searching for how to keep arguing with people FACELESSLY on social media!
The OP simply gives credits to just one single organization out of all the countless religious groups claiming Christians, and all you and your friends could do is to argue and argue and argue.
Instead of going out to PERFORM better so that observers can SEE what you're doing and speak well of you. 1Peter 2:12

false jw tatime

you argue the same thing over and over again
trying to convince christians that you are God's people, laugh

we show you from God's word that you are not

but keep on lying tat, that's what you false jw's do do well

TATIME: You can't do that because you hate light so you'll remain in DARKNESS,claiming there shouldn't be any group for Jesus yet you're calling Him God. Abeg your God no get worshippers wey people fit SEE take know how your God dey think?

see blinded false jw tatime, it's impossible for you false jw's not to lie:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky: Johnw lying Pharisee is a carbon copy of his lying father (John 8:44).
Johnw lying Pharisee, "thy fellows" or Jesus fellows were not his disciples.
" To which of the angels did God (YAHWEH) ever say:
"Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet"? Heb1:4,13.

YAHWEH never anointed himself to sit at his right hand.
He anointed Jesus his son & whom he created alongside his other angelic sons. He anointed Jesus & gave him an inheritance above other angels.
Heb1:1-14, the narrative has no reference to Jesus disciples

Mumu lying Pharisee, only an inferior being (the son, Jesus).receives inheritance from his Superior,his Father & God, YAHWEH.
That is the due process in heaven & here on earth .
Your lies have found u out johnw lying Pharisee.

ha ha copycat pharisee jano, no matter how many times you lie
it won't change the fact that false jw's are the modern day pharisees:
Jesus said:
Mat_23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Jesus talking off false jw pharisees hypocrites(old and new) and other sons of satan:
Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Janosky: Johnw lying Pharisee is a carbon copy of his lying father (John 8:44).
Johnw lying Pharisee, "thy fellows" or Jesus fellows were not his disciples.
" To which of the angels did God (YAHWEH) ever say:
"Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet"? Heb1:4,13.

YAHWEH never anointed himself to sit at his right hand.
He anointed Jesus his son & whom he created alongside his other angelic sons. He anointed Jesus & gave him an inheritance above other angels.
Heb1:1-14, the narrative has no reference to Jesus disciples

Mumu lying Pharisee, only an inferior being (the son, Jesus).receives inheritance from his Superior,his Father & God, YAHWEH.
That is the due process in heaven & here on earth .
Your lies have found u out johnw lying Pharisee.

oh duh lying pharisee false jw jano, and twister of the truth

the verse concerning Jesus fellows is Psa_45:7  and not Heb1:1-14
the only common ground in psa and heb is that Jesus is called God

Psa_45:7 has no reference to apostles and disciples, duh, it has no reference to angels either,
but what's that to you pharisee jano, a lying twister of God's word



did you see this one, oh cannot stop lying pharisee jano;
https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/236#74929486

Janosky: Johnw lying Pharisee is a carbon copy of his lying father (John 8:44).
Johnw lying Pharisee, "thy fellows" or Jesus fellows were not his disciples.
" To which of the angels did God (YAHWEH) ever say:
"Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet"? Heb1:4,13.

YAHWEH never anointed himself to sit at his right hand.
He anointed Jesus his son & whom he created alongside his other angelic sons. He anointed Jesus & gave him an inheritance above other angels.
Heb1:1-14, the narrative has no reference to Jesus disciples

Mumu lying Pharisee, only an inferior being (the son, Jesus).receives inheritance from his Superior,his Father & God, YAHWEH.
That is the due process in heaven & here on earth .
Your lies have found u out johnw lying Pharisee.

lying pharisee jano
Mumu was a favorite saying of OneJ,
are you jano also OneJ? your angry confused accusing posting style is the same

OneJ hasn't posted since you jano started posting
i quoted OneJ and he never replied, etc. etc.

was he banned for foul mouth? or is it that false jw's just love deception almost as much as they love lying?

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee is a carbon copy of his lying father (John 8:44).
Johnw lying Pharisee, "thy fellows" or Jesus fellows were not his disciples.
" To which of the angels did God (YAHWEH) ever say:
"Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet"? Heb1:4,13.

YAHWEH never anointed himself to sit at his right hand.
He anointed Jesus his son & whom he created alongside his other angelic sons. He anointed Jesus & gave him an inheritance above other angels.
Heb1:1-14, the narrative has no reference to Jesus disciples

Mumu lying Pharisee, only an inferior being (the son, Jesus).receives inheritance from his Superior,his Father & God, YAHWEH.
That is the due process in heaven & here on earth .
Your lies have found u out johnw lying Pharisee.

lying pharisee jano
of course your confusion and lies are endless oh son of your daddy devil

it's an inheritance above the angels, not an inheritance above other angels lying pharisee jano

Heb 1:4  Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Janosky:
Your lies dey speak for u nau...
Johnw lying Pharisee & educated illiterate keeps reinventing his lie,
"of course YAHWEH has no God....
YAHWEH God is God and the Word"

johnw pls stop making yourself look foolish.
When will this lying Pharisee receive sense?
Only Yahweh knows.

lying pharisee false jw jano
@bold, you talk about yourself in nearly every post
what i say to you in truth you repeat back in lies
but then you are of the father of lies:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

pharisee false jw jano
your forefathers said Jesus done His miracles by the power of beelzebub(your god the devil)
and today you pharisee false jw's say, Jesus isn't God, He is "a god"
one of two gods, almighty god the father and mighty god the son, laugh

Janosky:
Your lies dey speak for u nau...
Johnw lying Pharisee & educated illiterate keeps reinventing his lie,
"of course YAHWEH has no God....
YAHWEH God is God and the Word"

johnw pls stop making yourself look foolish.
When will this lying Pharisee receive sense?
Only Yahweh knows.

oh duh false accuser jano

truly "YAHWEH has no God":
Deu_6:4  Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD


truly "YAHWEH God is God and the Word":
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

two persons in one Jehovah God
do you want me to post the Jehovah - Jesus verses again?

but pharisee false jw jano, keep on lying about the truth like your pharisee forefathers did:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Oga Pastor, the scriptures can not be broken.
According to Thomas, Jesus is God of me,i.e Jesus is God to him (Thomas).

Jesus already clarified that Yahweh is "God of me ,Jesus and God of you ",Thomas.

Oga Pastor, why is it hard for u to accept & admit that Jesus & Thomas had the same Father & the same God?

The so called "Pastor" can not admit that Yahweh has no God.
Lol

false jw jano, i'm not speaking for aio of course, but for me

Jesus is God to thomas, true

Father is God of Jesus, true

thomas and Jesus do have the same Father God, yes

of course YAHWEH has no God, true, YAHWEH is God

YAHWEH God is God and the Word, john 1:1, plus all the very many other scriptures that i have posted showing that Jesus is God

Janosky:
"Two persons is God", u be pagan ni. dey show your true colour.

know nothing jano
of course you don't believe God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

would you like me to post again other bible verses showing that Jesus is God?

Janosky: The popular john 1:1 is a fraud !

so you keep lying

Janosky: Two different spirits can not be one spirit.
Except u no get sense.....

two diffrent spirits are not one spirit, duh
two diffrent spirit beings are the one Spirit that is God
look back for the scriptures i gave

Janosky: U have agreed on this thread that Jesus is NOT the Father , therefore, Jesus is not the one God whom the Father is.

oh duh, ha ha, Father and the Word is God, Jesus is the Word not the Father, both is God

you will never understand or believe

Janosky: 1cor8:6.
Jesus is lord & Christ,(Anointed him).
His Father & his God ,jehovah made Jesus Lord. Acts2 :36.

U dey quote heb1:9 wey dig holes for your lies.
"Therefore God, your God", that is Jehovah the God of Jesus , anointed Jesus with oil above his fellows .

Johnw lying Pharisee, who are Jesus fellows or "thy fellows " of Jesus? oya answer am.

your confusion is unbelievable
Jesus is Lord, of course he is
Father made Jesus Lord and Christ, yes good
Father is Jesus God, yes He is

Jesus fellows is referring to His apostles-disciples, you didn't even know that, funny
Father anointed Jesus above them

and where does any of that show that Jesus is not God
oh know nothing false jw jano

i have explained all of this before, more than once and with scriptures, go back and read them, or i should say, believe them, laugh
and you just keep asking the same things over and over again which is the way of false jw frauds
which is the way of satans mob:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

TATIME:
They're all frustrated and pained to their marrow!

false jw tatime
the frustration is all with you false jw's
but speaking lies is your natural way of speaking

christians have shown here where you are wrong
and you have been 237 pages trying to show us you are right, smile

you will all go another 237 pages of your repeated garbage and confusion and lies
and we will keep on showing you with God's word, which you don't believe,
that you are wrong

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.

Jozzy4:
Psalm 89:6 refer to Jesus. Jesus is a son too

Is Jesus not a son ? U are a 419

duh, know nothing false jw jozz
the psalm is referring to the angels

Jesus unlike them can be compared to the LORD

no i'm not a 419, but you sure do love to lie like your daddy:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
[s]Oga Pastor, u can not twist this one at all !! Your excuse are invalid.[/s]

In the Greek interlinear @ John 20:17, Jesus said
"The Father of me & Father of you"
"God of me and God of you"

Thomas & Jesus other disciples perfectly understood what Jesus said (with or with out definite article).

That is, the Father of Jesus is the same Father of Thomas.
Like wise, the God of Jesus is also the God of Thomas
The Oga of JESUS na the Oga of Thomas.
Shikena !

false jw jano
Father is the God of Jesus, doesn't say Jesus is not God
it shows that Father and Jesus are two persons,
and john 1:1 shows those two persons is God

Father and the Word is God, john 1:1, and as many other scriptures show

Father Himself right after He showed that Jesus is not an angel, showed that Jesus is God:

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Janosky:
Stop being foolish!!!!

Johnw lying Pharisee & educated illiterate, why U no get sense ?

"And expressed image of his person" is another way of saying
1) Jesus is the spitting image of his Father .
2) Jesus is 'almost exactly like his Father.'
3).Jesus na carbon copy of his Father.

If your sense no fit reset, at least don't forget say carbon copy no be original.

false accuser false jw jano
you agree with scripture that: "Jesus is the express image of His Father"
unlike the angels as per psalms 89:6
read my post again and see if you can for once accept truth

Janosky: Jesus is NOT Jehovah.

YAHWEH
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of

thine hands:




YAHWEH
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me

every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things

under the earth;





YAHWEH
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which

regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and

King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 YAHWEH is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as

Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty god as false jw believe.




YAHWEH
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am

the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.





YAHWEH
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar

people, zealous of good works.




YAHWEH
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of

supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one

mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and

all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

YAHWEH was pierced
Jesus was pierced



YAHWEH
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in

mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Janosky: "Jesus sat down on the right hand of the Supreme Majesty, Jehovah God.

Jehovah did not sit down at the right hand of himself (except u be gubernatorial candidate for Yaba/Uselu State)...

duh, of course Jesus did not sit down at the right hand of Himself,
He sat down at the right hand of His Father, Father and the Word is God, john 1:1

Father and the Word(God) sit on the Throne of God, double duh

Janosky: The Word was with God, that is one spirit being & another spirit being, two persons.

triple duh, of course Father and the Word are two persons in the one God
they are two persons having the one spirit that is God, not two spirits-two gods as you false jw's believe,
go back and read again the verses i posted, but believe them, oh know nothing

Janosky: (* With > "in the company or presence of somebody"
Sourced from Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English, Sixth Edition).
*Fact: The popular John 1:1 is a fraud.
Your three faced pagan triune god is an "office of three gods!"
Na one of their Trinity crew member wey popular for NL talk am.
Idol worshippers dey form Christian.

Your lie fits those who whose thinking faculty is corrupted by virus.

We can see through your lies, conjectures & outright falsification of scriptural texts to make your dogma look nice..

laughing, you will never understand or believe oh son of your father:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jozzy4:
We do not need to question every encounter of God , context helps a lot , the question is why would John quickly follow up that event of Thomas at verse 28 , saying immediately at verse 31 .

" But these has been written down so that you may BELIEVE that Jesus is the Christ, THE SON of God " - John 20:31.

Objective analysis to help a sincere person know his true identity

i see, so you false jw jozz disbelieve the former verses and believe the later verses,
when of course both are true


God is Father and the Word, john 1:1
the Word-God became man, verse 14

thomas was talking of Jesus being God
john was talking of Jesus being the Son of, God the Father


Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 

Joh 20:31  But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. 

there are no conflicts there, except for those who know nothing with no understanding and who want to see conflicts,
you know nothing jozz don't believe the Bible but you do believe your witchpower magazine



the Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus Christ is both man and God

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.