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Jozzy4:
Don't be silly, if the sons of the Mighty are angels , who is their Father ?

Is Jesus not also a son.

once again, the sons of the LORD in Heaven psalm 89:6 is referring to the angels

and the fact that bible verses do compare Jesus to the LORD
shows that psalm 89:6 does not refer to Jesus


oh duh
but of course you false jw jozz know nothing


and of course Father and the Word is the LORD, john 1:1
that the angels in heaven cannot be compared to




Psa 89:6 For who in the heaven can be compared unto the LORD? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the LORD?

Heb_1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

there are many bible verses showing that Jesus is God - Jehovah - LORD, if you want me to post them again

TATIME:
NO you're not getting it Sir, this is the PERFECT INTERPRETATUA of the HOLY TRINITY!

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i don't know of a single christian who believes that God prayed to Himself and glorified Himself repeatedly etc. etc. etc.
i do know of Christians who believe the Word Jesus Christ(a person in God) who became flesh, prayed to and glorified His Father

but you false jw tatime love to mock God and His Word
you love to lie and twist, just like your daddy devil does:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

PastorAIO:
You nor suppose dey fear to quote my name like this na....

fear to quote your name??

i don't always quote the names of some articles i post also

1. because it's not necessary, except to let know that the writer is a christian in those cases
2. opposers are not able to mock the writer

explain yourself




by the way, you must be confused, this is the part you wrote:

In the LXX they use Kyrios instead of YHWH. Kyrios means Lord.

not the major part of my post that you quoted, which of course i wrote

In the LXX they use Kyrios instead of YHWH. Kyrios means Lord.

the Septuagint Bible translating old testament hebrew to greek, translates YHWH to Kyrios,

and Kyrios appears about 740 times in the Greek New Testament, usually referring to Jesus


Jesus/Kyrios
and
Jesus/YHWH, as so many scriptures show:



YAHWEH
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of

thine hands:




YAHWEH
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me

every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things

under the earth;





YAHWEH
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which

regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and

King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 YAHWEH is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as

Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty god as false jw believe.




YAHWEH
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am

the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.





YAHWEH
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar

people, zealous of good works.




YAHWEH
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of

supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one

mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and

all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

YAHWEH was pierced
Jesus was pierced



YAHWEH
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in

mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Janosky:
The hogwash & trash of brocab lying Pharisee.




where in John 4:1-34 did Jesus say "the Father and the word are two persons having one spirit"? according to your fellow Pharisee .


Dey there dey deceive yourself

false accuser, bad mouth, and know nothing jano

God is a Spirit, John 4:24, and Father and the Word is God, john 1:1, so Father and the Word are one God - one Spirit

Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 


oh quadruple duh

Jozzy4:
,

NO SON OF GOD is Yahweh oooooo , Psalm 89:6

false jw jozz

Psa 89:6  For who in the heaven can be compared unto the LORD? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the LORD? 


the sons on the mighty are the angels, none of the angels can be compared to the LORD


on the other hand the man Jesus Christ is compared to the Lord often in scripture:

Heb_1:3  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

@blue, Father and the Word sit on the Throne of God = Father and the Word is God, john 1:1

Jozzy4:
God [ the Word ] was WITH God [ the Father ]

419, how many God is that ?

oh duh duh duh blinded false jw jozz
once again: God the Word and God the Father is the one true God,
two persons who are the one true God, john 1:1
not two gods as you polytheists false jw's believe in, almighty god the father and mighty god the son,

Almighty and Mighty are two titles - names for the one true God,
want scriptures? just ask

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
^^^ two persons who are the one God
 
confused and blinded false jw jozz, you neither understand or believe God's word, of course,

Jozzy4: I thought Barrister07 ask you to go and do your assignment on that Deu 6:4

did he, i certainally wouldn't take an assignment from one of satans mob

Jozzy4: Yahweh our God, is one Yahweh.
That's what it says , 419 quoting rubbish for us.

No son of God is Yahweh - Psalm 89:6. Yahweh is our Father not Jesus.

i haven't got enough duh's for you false jw jozz

of course YAHWEH our God is one YAHWEH = the Lord our God is one Lord = God is one God,
not two gods as you false jw jozz believe in
God is Father and the Word, two persons in God, john 1:1
but you false jw jozz are blinded to truth

YAHWEH is a name for God
Father and the Word is God = Father and the Wotd is YAHWEH, john 1:1, plus many more,
ask and i will again post verses showing that Jesus is God, and that Father and Jesus is YAHWEH = is God


2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee keeps peddling junk.

John 4:1-34, nowhere did Jesus say "Father and the Word have "one spirit".

false jw jano
God is a Spirit, Father and the Word is God, john 1:1, so Father and the Word are one God - one Spirit

Janosky: The preface in different Bible versions says that the name of God (YHWH- Yahweh ,Jehovah) was removed & substituted with the title "LORD"

Deut 6:4 is NOT correct, in as much as Johnw lying Pharisee would never agree to the removal of his name from any book he wrote..

Yet he see's nothing with removal of Jehovah's name from His word the Bible
crooked Johnw lying Pharisee

false accuser jano
@bold, i have never said that, that's just more false accusing from you and your daddy devil

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee keeps peddling junk.


crooked Johnw lying Pharisee

now now false jw copycat jano
just because i truthfully show how you lie and are confused etc. etc. etc.

there is no reason to falsely accuse me of those same things, which is just adding to your lies
but then you are just taking after your father the devil:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jesus is both God and man:
Col 2:9  For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form

one of Jesus names is: "God with us"
Isa 7:14  Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

false jw's would lie and say "Immanuel" means: "a god with us"

Janosky:
.

Crooked Johnw lying Pharisee.
Why your complaints?
U dey call "Tat" ,"Jano", joz", which u know were not their respective
NL moniker.

Comot that fraud u call Deut6:4.

The correct Hebrew version of
Deut 6:4 "Hear O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah (Yahweh).
The Tetragrammatton (YHWH) appeared twice in verse 4,in the correct version.

false accuser jano
YHWH is a name for God, so
"Jehovah our God is one Jehovah", is correct, and
"the Lord our God is one Lord", is correct,
but i understand your continual confusion, laugh

Janosky: Johnw lying Pharisee, in john 4:24, did Jesus say he is a spirit?
LIAR.

false jw jano
before Jesus became flesh He is a Spirit(the Word), ha ha, oh duh

Janosky: A kindergarten kid knows that "Yahweh (Jehovah) our God is one Jehovah( Yahweh)".
That kid will have more sense than johnw lying Pharisee who lied that "Father and the word are two persons having one spirit" .

know nothing jano
of course God is one God:
Deu_6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

ha ha, and of course Father and the Word are two persons

duh, of course they have one Spirit, God is a Spirit:
Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


hilarious confused jano, you false jw show what duh's you are post after post, day after day

TATIME:
It's just amusement galore! Seeing different persons from different religious groups with conflicting doctrines and contradicting teachings all pointing accusing fingers towards one single group. Why? For no other reason than having another doctrine!
OK you're all agitating for the members of that group to change, but to which of you should your new convert switch? CONFUSION begins!
I remember one saying "any other religion is OK as long as it's not JWs even Book Haram is OK"
That's when i realized that i've truthfully found Jesus' real organization! Because Jesus said they will hate His followers and the Jewish religious leader led the conspiracy so that their people hated Jesus so much that they prefer Barabbas (a terrorist) to Jesus!

cannot tell the truth false jw tatime
you make up the lie: "I remember one saying "any other religion is OK as long as it's not JWs even Book Haram is OK""

and then you go on to further lie: "That's when i realized that i've truthfully found Jesus' real organization!"

see the evil of false jw's, only satan and his mob talk lies non stop as the natural way of talking

Janosky:
John20:28 , Thomas called Jesus my "my Lord & my God", that is Jesus na Thomas Oga.

Jesus said, I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God" John 20:17,30,31

Jesus say he get his own Papa& Oga ,wey still be the Oga & Papa of Thomas.

Jesus big pass Thomas, but Papa God Almighty big pass Jesus & Thomas.

The scriptures can not be broken, ' I am God's son', says Jesus (John 10:34-36.

false jw jano

the son has a Father, oh duh, really

the Father has a Son, oh duh, really

laughing





the Father and the Son is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.



and God is one:

Deu_6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:



of course false jw jano you will never understand it, or believe God's word,
you satans mob don't have God living in you, of course

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee keeps going against God's word the holy Bible.

"If you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't fall"
1 cor 10:12
"But he who stands firm to the end will be saved", says Jesus Christ Matt 24:13.

Judas,Ananias &Saphira were not saved because they never stood firm to the end of each of their lives.

"It is not over until the final whistle"
Each servant of Jehovah is a work in progress until the final whistle.

Jesus said a Christian is not saved until he "stands firm to the end" but johnw lying Pharisee keeps peddling junk gospel alien to Christ & true Christianity.

false jw jano
post the quotes where i say against the bible
so i can point out where you cannot stop lying:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jozzy4:
Guy, remove the veil in your eyes and see the highlighted , U are worshipping two separate GODS . that are with each other

laugh, false jw jozzy, you have no understanding at all,
truly Father and the Word are two persons in the one God
they are not two gods as you false jw's believe

Deu_6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

but confused jozzy, keep believing in your two false gods

about false jw's and others who twist truth and love a lie:
2Pe 3:16  He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

one of the things a christian does when saved is to do away with lying

however false jw's glory in their lies, habitually lying and repeating their lies, showing they are not saved and showing who their god is:
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Jozzy4:
Zodik or whatever is your name, u no smart at all , Is Isaac a Son ? Idiot, Jesus is a son of God . Rev 2:18 , When will u have sense

No Son of God is Yahweh!!!

who is the one who is not smart at all

you false jw jozzy cannot even quote his name which is right in front of you

Jozzy4:
God was with God ?

ha ha, oh duh false jw joz, no god wasn't with god, Father was with the Word
God is a Spirit, Father and the Word are two persons having that one Spirit which is God:
Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Jozzy4: Unless u want to deny the word is God , So God the word was WITH God the Father, two Gods

duh false jw, even kindergarten kids know that God is one, not two gods

talking of Father and the Word singularly as separate persons, you can say: God the Father and God the Word, but
talking of Father and the Word jointly as God, if you were to say: God the Father and the Word,
or God the Father and the Son, as per john 1:1 shows, then you would be correct
but being a false jw you wrongly believe they are two gods and not one, and so you lie and try to make out christians also believe in your false polytheist doctrine


christians know that Father and the Word is one, as according to God's word
you false jw's say Father and the Word are two gods
god and a god
almighty god and mighty god


Deu_6:4  Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Jozzy4: That devil has really blinded you.

laugh, false accuser joz, talk about being blinded:
2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

TATIME:
Instead of learning how to become FISHERS of MEN from those Jesus is using,you're calling humans like you Satan's mob. Even Jesus Himself was ready to go and meet people in their homes, to plead with them to be saved! You sit down in your room with one hopeless gadget typing "i'm not trying to convert"
Are you a worshippers of that same God Peter talked about here? 2Peter 3:9
Well you've got NO obligations to save anyone since you've refused to humble yourself before those God assigned to train you for the job!
But JWs have the duty to rescue as many as we can,that's why we're going to PLEAD with them in their homes! Matthew 10:4-15 28:19,20 compared to Ezekiel 3:18

no i'm calling humans like you satans mob
false jw's who teach that the Lord and Saviout of the world Jesus Christ is "a god"
false jw's who teach that the Lord's body was not resurrected
false jw's who teach that there are two gods, almighty god father and mighty god son

truly you are children of your father the devil:
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

TATIME:
It's just amusement galore! Seeing different persons from different religious groups with conflicting doctrines and contradicting teachings all pointing accusing fingers towards one single group. Why? For no other reason than having another doctrine!
OK you're all agitating for the members of that group to change, but to which of you should your new convert switch? CONFUSION begins!
I remember one saying "any other religion is OK as long as it's not JWs even Book Haram is OK"
That's when i realized that i've truthfully found Jesus' real organization! Because Jesus said they will hate His followers and the Jewish religious leader led the conspiracy so that their people hated Jesus so much that they prefer Barabbas (a terrorist) to Jesus!

i don't recall anyone saying that
post the quote or link
or else you are just still talking lies as your natural way of talking, like your father the devil:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jozzy4: I am going to my Father AND YOUR FATHER . - John 20:17,, that's Jesus telling us who is our father , Yahweh not himself


Like I always tell you, u are just a desperate liar. U know u have been caught.

1. No son of God is Yahweh

2. Yahweh is our Father.

Isaiah 63:9 Yahweh is our Father. , Jesus is not the Father. The above is a title, it never said " OUR " Father Is Jesus , " OUR father" __ and " YOUR " John 20:17 point to one single person, NOT Jesus

Desperate Boy, is Jesus OUR Father ?

Stop embarrassing your self outside, even Jesus said you lied. John 20:17.

Jozzy4: Small sense u don't have. Jesus himself said he is Son of God at Revelation 2:18 , U still fighting him ?

No son of God is Yahweh ooooooo

Only begotten son is still a son , Isaac is a son, Jesus is a son of God too. , haba just imagine the disgrace u are giving yourself here

Jozzy4: Revelation 2 : 18_ Jesus said he is Son of God. I don't know what exactly is your problem , So because Isaac is only begotten he isn't a son, Sense , sense , sense ,

Psalm 89:6 Bro

confused false jw joz
you have been posting your same confusion for days now
go back and look at the replies i have given you

but no, there's no way you could comprehend

Jozzy4:
The word was God right ? And the word ( God ) was WITH God.


With indicate MORE than one

So two Gods are there with each other.

ha ha false jw joz your god daddy devil has blinded you:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


Father and the Word, are two persons in God
not two gods in god, oh quadruple duh



false jw joz
of course you don't believe God, and twist-change much of what He inspired to be said:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jozzy4:
You still don't have sense Sir.

Bucket. With Bucket doesn't mean One Bucket . .. It's two Buckets.

God WITH God proved two Gods.both are different entity and each is God, and they are with Each. Other


Am sure u have met something stronger than your teeth in that John 1:1 , So solve your problem, how come u have Two Gods that are with Each other ?

confused false jw joz
it's you who has two gods, a almighty god father
and a mighty god son,
you are polytheist

whereas as christians believe in two persons Father and the Word being in the one God, john 1:1

Janosky:
brocab educated illiterate & lying Pharisee.

Firstly, JWs teach & believe that Jesus is "Everlasting Father" whom the Bible call's "Last Adam" (or second Adam in some Bible versions) because he restored to mankind the blessing of everlasting life which Adam lost due to of sin& disobedience.1 cor15:22,45-47 .
Rom5:12-19

Brocab explained Psalm110:1,2 that Yahweh (Jehovah) says to Jesus the Messiah "sit at my right hand" ,He (Jesus) sits at God's (Jehovah's) right hand".
He emphasized that Jehovah & Jesus are distinct, not the same.

oh duh duh false jw jano, Father and Son are two distinct persons, and are one God, john 1:1, plus much more, just ask
and i will post them

Janosky: Brocab lying Pharisee & 3 "Gods" pagan worshipper goes further to contradict himself & lied "that Jesus is Jehovah"

of course you false jw jano cannot stop lying, it's your natural way of talking, taking after your daddy the devil.
but you however, teller of lies jano, do believe in two gods, true

@bold:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.





YAHWEH
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 YAHWEH is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.




YAHWEH
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.





YAHWEH
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.




YAHWEH
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

YAHWEH-Jesus was pierced
and in zec YAHWEH shows it is Himself - Jesus who was pierced



YAHWEH
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Janosky: A sane person will not tell himself to sit at his own right hand...
The Trinity falsehood removed brocab's sense .
.The Bible confirmed brocab is a lying Pharisee.

oh duh false jw jano, Father didn't tell Himself to sit at His right hand,
Father told Jesus
Father and the Word is two persons, in one God, john 1:1, plus

TATIME:
When they gather together against JWs, i keep wondering what's in their minds?
They're trying to say JWs organization is wrong.OK you're all having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, so which one should the JW you're converting join amongst all of you? Yawa go gas!

truly i for one am not trying to convert satans mob, you are deluded to think that,
can satan be converted, no and neither his children:

Joh 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

TATIME:



If you don't believe in Pastors,elders or any religious teachers that means you don't have any connection with the REAL Jesus my friend! Because Jesus is the ONLY means by which God speaks with people today.

two things hypocrite tatime
1. you have been saying pastors etc. teach us lies, and now you say if we don't hear from them then we don't know the real Jesus
2. and then you say Jesus is the only means God speaks to us, so not by pastors etc.
much hypocrisy and confusion false jw tatime, but that comes from your god: daddy devil

TATIMe: Before Christ's era God do speak DIRECTLY with people through dreams, visions and angels, but after Christ the only way believers receive timely information is from mouth to mouth! Hebrew 1:1 Revelation 22:17
So Jesus passed the information to His Apostles who in turn passed it to His numerous disciples who in turn passed it to the general public.

oh duh false jw tatime, you need others to tell you what to believe, we know that, they teach you many lies

these days God's word is readily available, but which you don't believe much off,
and there is God inside christians Who helps us, and Who you false jw's neither know, or of course have
so all you do have is the passing on by mouth and by witchpower, lies from satans org.

TATIMe: My friend, everybody believes in the holy spirit

you don't, you don't know Him, you think He is an impersonal power

Joh 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

false jw's believe in two gods
a everlasting father, and a everlasting father, laugh

Janosky:
Welcome to the world of johnw lying Pharisee.
Copy copy thief thief & plagiarist.

ha ha, tormented false jw jano, that's what false jw's are best known for, lying
and you cannot stop lying

Janosky: The Interpreter's Bible says:
"Abaddon (Hebrew equivalent of Greek Apollyon meaning 'Destroyer') , however, is an angel not of Satan but of God, performing his work of destruction at God's bidding".

Proof from the holy Bible ..

"For this purpose the son of God was made manifest to DESTROY the works of the devil" 1 John 3:8

"I saw the heaven opened & before me was a white horse whose rider is called Faithful & True... his name is the Word of God. The Armies of Heaven were following him... He threads the winepress of the wrath of God Almighty" Rev 19:11-15.

" Jesus asked him ' What is your name?' "Legion" ,he replied....
And they begged him repeatedly not to order them to go into the Abyss" Luke 8:30,31


"What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to DESTROY us ?" Luke 4:33,34.

Johnw lying Pharisee keeps doing what he knows best- peddle lies & Falsehood.

oh duh, cannot stop lying jano
the angel of the bottomless pit and the prisoners there, is not God's destroying angel
and not Jesus, Jesus is not a angel as Father made clear


Rev 9:11  And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. 

Apollyon:

Ἀπολλύων
Apolluōn
ap-ol-loo'-ohn
Active participle of G622; a destroyer (that is, Satan): - Apollyon.



of course Father clearly shows that Jesus is not a angel, heb 1
not clear for the blinded though:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

the persons of the bottomless pit are evil, they are locked up there
who would be king of this evil lot, Jesus or God's destroying angel, or the fallen angel satan


the thief satan has come to destroy:

Joh_10:10  The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

oh duh, know nothing jano, the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is the King of the jews
is the King of Israel
He is not the king of the bottomless pit-the king of evil, that is surely satans role

Jesus is King of the Jews:
Mat_2:2  Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Jesus is King of Israel:
Mat_27:42  He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.


neither God's destroying angel or Jesus is king of the bottomless pit and the evil contained there, but satan certinally is


joh 17:12  While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

judas is the son of destruction, his father satan is destruction-the destroyer

TATIME:
Where is the result of your godliness? James 2:18-26
Jehovah's Witnesses are everywhere bubbling with LOVE,JOY,PEACE,LONGSUFFERING, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH,SELF CONTROL! Galatians 5:22,23
Is your God working at all? John 5:17

really, keep fooling yourself false jw tatime
you are sheep in the streets, and wolves in here
just read some of the false jw posts in this thread, and see that you are not bubbling with LOVE,JOY,PEACE,LONGSUFFERING, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH,SELF CONTROL!
you have been blinded by your father the devil and you of course cannot stop lying:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Jesus speaking of false jw's and other false prophets:
Mat_7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

and of course false jw's are the great false prophets:

https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/201#73623075

Jesus is Abaddon and Apollyon the Destroyer


Jesus is Abaddon and Apollyon
Watchtower 12/1/1961, p. 717-720
"United Against Nations in the Valley of Decision"



"When Jesus was on earth as a man, he was a Hebrew, and now in his capacity as Jehovah's royal Executioner he is called by the Hebrew name Abad'don, which means Destruction. (Job 26:6; 28:22; 31:12; 12:23; 14:19) In the Greek in which the inspired Christian Scriptures were written his similar title is Apollyon, which means Destroyer," (Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1961, p. 719).

Comment: Abaddon is the Hebrew for the ruling angel in hell. Apollyon is the Greek equivalent. Is it Jesus? No. The New Topical Textbook lists Abaddon and Apollyon as names of Satan. The Bible Knowledge Commentary does the same.





false jw's jesus is satan, of course



let me know if you need the rest of this article written by a christian,

Janosky:
Shut up there!
Stop being stupid

Go & borrow sense . There's no collateral attached.


Johnw lying Pharisee & plagiarist.
. 3 "Gods" pagan worship crew member,get outta here.

ha ha, false accuser jano
you actually need collateral to show there is no two everlasting fathers, laugh

heres collateral:
Deu_6:4  Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:



written for you cannot stop lying jano, and of course for others of satans mob:

Joh_8:44  You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.