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"HARVEST" is a term which gives a general idea as to what work should be expected to transpire between the dates 1874 and 1914." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.135

"These, already examined, show that the close of 1874 marked the beginning, as the close of 1914 will mark the end, of this 40 years of harvest; ..." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come pp.149-150

1799

Few Witnesses today are aware of the relevance of the year 1799, that this year is pivotal to the very existence of Jehovah's Witnesses. 1799 was the beginning of "the time of the end." This concept started the era of enlightenment and Adventist movement of the 1800's, resulting in Russell's end time belief system.

In no uncertain terms, Watchtower presented "proof" that 1799 was "definitely" the start of the time of the end.

"THE "Time of the End," a period of one hundred and fifteen (115) years, from A.D. 1799 to A.D. 1914, is particularly marked in the Scriptures. "The Day of His Preparation" is another name given to the same period." Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come p.23

In 1796, George Bell postulated that the Pope was the Antichrist and would fall in 1797. The war that started shortly afterwards, along with Napoleon debasing the Pope, was seen as evidence of the fulfilment of this. So dramatic was the apparent fulfilment of this prophecy that it led to the start of the Adventist movement and belief that the last days started 1799. The reasoning was related to Daniel's prophecy of the King of the North and prophecies of the 1260 days in Daniel 7:25, Revelation 12:7 and 11:1-3.

Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is as Hand and Zion's Watch Tower 1889 discussed this as relating to the 1799 date.

Catholic Papal rule started in 539 A.D. and was said to have ended 1260 years later in 1799, thus starting the beginning of the time of the end. The prophecy of the 1355 days was similarly calculated to extend from 539 A.D. to 1874, another key date in Russell's understanding of the end times. Although Russell did not get involved in the Adventist movement until the 1870's, he accepted this date as truth and felt that God had chosen him as his mouthpiece to preach the urgency of the times.

Despite Russell's death, and the failure of his teaching that Jesus earthly rulership would commence 1914, Watchtower continued with this doctrine, and even well after Jesus apparent cleansing of Watchtower in 1919.

"Napoleon began this Egyptian campaign in 1798, ... and being completed in 1799, marks, according to the Prophet's own words, the beginning of the "time of the end". The Harp of God (1921) pp.228,229

"The time of the end" embraces a period from A.D. 1799, as above indicated, to the time of the complete overthrow of Satan's empire and the establishment of the kingdom of the Messiah." The Harp of God p.231

"Twelve-hundred sixty years from A.D. 539 brings us to 1799-another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end"." The Harp of God p.230

"How is the beginning of the “time of the end” definitely fixed at 1799 A. D.?" The Harp of God p.269

"This great increase in knowledge and the tremendous running to and fro of the people in various parts of the earth without question is a fulfilment of the prophecy testifying as to "the time of the end"." The Harp of God p.234

It is amusing to see the lengthy list of inventions The Harp of God used as proof that the 1800's was the time of the end. The locomotive and "flying machine" (p.231) were considered fulfilment of the "day of God's preparation" spoken of in Nahum 2:1-6. Evidence the Lord's presence commenced 1874 included - adding machines, aeroplanes, aluminium, antiseptic surgery, artificial dyes, automatic couplers, automobiles, barbed wire, bicycles, carborundum, cash registers, celluloid, correspondence schools, cream separators, Darkest Africa, fireless cookers, shoe-sewing machines, the telegraph, the telephone, Panama Canal, Pasteurization, and vacuum cleaners (page 235).

This teaching continued throughout the nineteen twenties in other publications.

"The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the "time of the end" began in 1799; that the Lord's second presence began in 1874." Watchtower 1922 Mar 1 p.73

"Napoleon began this Egyptian campaign in 1798, finished it, and then returned to France on October 1, 1799. The campaign is briefly, yet graphically described in the prophecy, verses 40-44; and its being completed in 1799 marks, according to the prophet's own words, the beginning of "the time of the end. Twelve hundred and sixty years from 539 A.D. brings us to 1799, which is another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end." This also shows that it is from the date 539 A.D. that the other prophetic days of Daniel must be counted." Creation (1927) 2,175,000 ed. p.293

"These physical facts cannot be disputed and are sufficient to convince any reasonable mind that we have been in "the time of the end" since 1799." The Harp of God p.234

Then as now, Watchtower resorted to insult, with Rutherford indicating above that a person is not of "reasonable mind" if they do not believe the time of the end started in 1799. Today, a Witness that does not believe 1914 was the start of the end is labelled as apostate or even the antichrist and disfellowshipped.

"Now, in view of recent labor troubles and threatened anarchy, our readers are writing to know if there may not be a mistake in the 1914 date. They do not see how present conditions can hold out so long under the strain. We see no reason for changing the figures - nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226 (reprints 1677)

The following quotes during the lead up to 1914 show there could be no doubt as to what Watchtower followers expected. The end of the Last Days in 1914 was to initiate a number of endings and new beginnings.

● 1914 - the end of the preaching work
● 1914 - the end of all religion
● 1914 - the wholesale destruction of all government
● 1914 - the end of the Great Tribulation
● 1914 - the end of Armageddon
● 1914 - Russell and his followers to be raised to heaven
● 1914 - Jesus' Kingdom established as paradise on earth
● 1914 - commencement of the earthly resurrection

1798

"And, perhaps we can answer: the "time, times, and a-half," ended in 1798, at the taking away of the papal dominion, and is one of the great landmarks of prophecy." Three Worlds and The Harvest of This World (1877) p.158

The 1260 days in Revelation 12:7 were said to extend from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D. and marked by the end of Papal rule. In 1889, Russell changed the last days from 1798 to 1799, based on a new understanding that papal rule started in 539 A.D.

1780

May 19, 1780 was the date for the first sign of the last days, "The Dark Day." Certain Adventists still hold to this date. It was said by Ellen that "Since the time of Moses no period of darkness of equal density, extent, and duration, has ever been recorded." (Great Controversy, p. 308) This was touched on in Studies in the Scriptures - The Day Of Vengeance (1897) p.604;

"Reckoning a hundred years from 1780, the date of the first sign, the limit would reach to 1880; and, to our understanding, every item predicted had begun to be fulfilled at that date"

The time of darkness, the first sign of the end, was caused by fires in New England and was confined mostly to the North-Eastern part of the United States. Quite typically a new religion will think their country is predicted in prophecy. The Adventists, Mormons and Watchtower Society all began as US centric religions.

Prior to forming the Watchtower, Russell wrote that 1914 would see the end of all governments.

“… the seven times will end in A.D. 1914; when Jerusalem shall be delivered forever, and the Jew say of the Deliverer, “Lo, this is our God, we have waited for Him and He will save us.” When Gentile Governments shall have been dashed to pieces; when God shall have poured out of his fury upon the nation, and they acknowledge him, King of Kings and Lord of Lords.” Bible Examiner C. T. Russell Oct 1876

Russell originally was a follower of the teachings of Barbour, and together they co-authored works such as the 1877 book Three Worlds, and the Harvest of This World. After splitting from Barbour in June 1879, Russell began publishing the magazine Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence in July 1879. This became distinctly his own religion with the incorporation of the organization "Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society" shortly thereafter. Russell continued to publish many of the prophetic interpretations he had received from Barbour, as can be seen in what follows when comparing Three Worlds and Watchtower quotes.

1874 to 1914 were described as the greatest period of trouble in human history, the period of Armageddon itself, with the end of trouble to be in 1914.

Aemmyjah:
You'll make this wailer to go and read stories of 16th century to start making a fool of himself

tormented and lost false jw aemmy

of course you cannot stop lying like your father the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

i'm the only one posting in this thread,
i post articles on how you so called Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets
and you and mad max keep posting; "great thread", "delicious thread", etc.
you people are as queer and as dum as they come, aren't you

and i'm the only one posting in other thread where i post more articles showing that you false w's are false prophets
and false date setters, and mad max keeps posting; "1914"

Watchtower quotes prior to 1914
Russell taught that Jesus invisible presence began in 1874 and rulership in 1878.

"Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear it: and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878, A.D.:" Studies in Scriptures Series - The Day of Vengeance (1897) p.621

The heavenly kingdom was shown Scripturally to begin before the end of the Gentile Times.

"But the kingdom of God is to be set up before the days of the Gentile end, for "in the days of theses kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom; and it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms" (Dan. 2:44)."" Three Worlds and the Harvest of This World (Barbour & Russell, 1877) p.27

As shown at Freemasonry & Adventist Links, Russell used pyramidology to support this belief. (picture above)

Other significant dates the Watchtower no longer refer to are;

● 1799 A.D. - The beginning of the Last Days.
● 539 A.D. - Thought to be the start of Catholic Papal rule and the start point of many prophetic interpretations.

Of these above dates only 1914 is still considered significant, and even then, mostly for different reasons than originally prescribed. Though part of Watchtower lore for 60 years, most current Jehovah's Witnesses are unaware of their significance and that each one failed to eventuate as predicted.

Each time the Watchtower has predicted an occurrence, it has not eventuated as foretold, a 100% failure rate. Does this inspire confidence in Watchtower interpretation? Jehovah's Witnesses promoted these falsehoods in the past, and continue to zealously advocate current doctrine as unfailing truths.

It is claimed that Jesus found a cleansed Slave Class dispensing truthful food in 1919. However, Rutherford continued to promote Russell's interpretation of the dates for the 1700's, 1800's and 1914 until the 1930's. Many of the date prophecies were re-explained between 1930 and 1932; the remainder were adjusted in 1943. Rutherford even dismissed the majority of his own 1900's predictions.

Chapter 10 of Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom is devoted to the subject "Growing in Accurate Knowledge of the Truth". This discusses that truth is progressive, yet makes little reference to the failed dates. Relegated to a footnote on page 133 is the statement that;

"A clearer understanding of Biblical chronology was published in 1943, in the book "The Truth Shall Make You Free" and it was then refined the following year in the book "The Kingdom Is at Hand," as well as in later publications.

Scant mention is made of the incredible list of dates that had been abandoned. Nor does it clarify that it was not until 1943 that the beginning of Christ's presence was specifically changed from the year 1874 to 1914. This change was in The Truth Shall Make You Free, released in the time of Knorr and the first book to be printed that did not list the author's name. This was after the death of Rutherford and well after 1919 when Jesus inspection supposedly found a spiritually cleansed Organization.

One can imagine that over time most of the current doctrine describing events of the 1900's will eventually be seen to be of little relevance and relegated to the forgotten annals of Watchtower history. It is yet to be seen what will become of 1914; being the most significant doctrine it will be the most difficult to eradicate without overwhelming consequences.

Janosky:
Oga ,read Courz post screenshot.
Did Courz your fellow Trinitarian agree with your own version of trinity revealed to you, Sand2022,by the same ghost?
That picture in the JW's publication is the exact replica of the deities invented at Nicene you are worshipping.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible
are not invented, They are not 3 deities/3 gods, whose heads are fused together

and the Christians Holy Spirit of the Bible Who you just mockingly call "ghost" doesn't give conflicting information
but you cannot stop lying and mocking and blaspheming, even the Holy Spirit:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Janosky:
Oga, keep your excuses to yourself.
Your pastors and church leaders are in jail for the same crime you are WAILING about JW's.
Oga, go & Clean up the mess in Christendom.
No bring your Hypocrisy to this forum.

Janosky: Your gods of men all over the world including those in Nigeria are serving jail terms for sexual molestation of children (screenshots evidence) & you are online WAILING upandan about JW's.
Oga, remove the rafters in your Christendom.
You are a Hypocrite.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



dum and lost fraud jw janosky

rafters are not in the eyes of all of Christianity,
there is no mess in all of Christianity:

Christendom

1. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history.
2. an obsolete word for Christianity.

As with Freemasonry & Adventist, Russell used pyramidology

Russell's 1914-pyramid-chart below

The Gentile times have ended, How we clapped our hands < funny

“Quite a few delegates stayed at Bethel, and, of course, members of the headquarters staff were present at the breakfast table on Friday morning, October 2. Everyone was seated when Brother Russell entered. As usual, he said cheerily, “Good morning, all.” But this particular morning was different. Instead of proceeding promptly to his seat, he clapped his hands and joyfully announced: “The Gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day.” “How we clapped our hands!” exclaims Cora Merrill. Brother Macmillan admitted: “We were highly excited and I would not have been surprised if at that moment we had just started up, that becoming the signal to begin ascending heavenward—but of course there was nothing like that, really.” Sister Merrill adds: “After a brief pause he [Russell] said: ‘Anyone disappointed? I’m not. Everything is moving right on schedule!’ Again we clapped our hands.”” Yearbook 1975 pp.72,73

The expectation was 1914 would see the final end of worldly kingdoms, replaced by God's Kingdom fully established on earth.

"In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99

From the 1911 edition forward, this quote gave an additional year for these events to be fully accomplished, extending to A.D.1915.

Rutherford and Russell setting diffrent dates

For Rutherford the important dates were:

"WE HAVE no doubt whatever in regard to the chronology relating to the dates of 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925." Watchtower 1922 May 15 p.147
Over time, Rutherford replaced 1874, such that his time line was as follows.

TBIZZY:
No no, c’mon, the devil did not lie here, he told the actual truth, he only made them disobey.
We can all accept, according to text in the bible,that it was God that actually lied to them about the fruit.
Maybe he did that on a purpose.
That aside, how is the devil a murderer?

bye dummy

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

the mentally unstable believe false prophets:

1914 is the pivotal date for the existence of Jehovah's Witnesses, currently explained as the date:

● the Gentile times ended
● Jesus started ruling in heaven
● the Last Days began

1914 is the basis for the interpretation of the majority of other Bible prophecies. Most importantly, this was the time during which Jesus is said to have come to inspect and cleanse the Watchtower Society, resulting in Jesus choosing it in 1919 to be the only organization he works though in our time, and the only means of salvation.

The current understanding is significantly different to the original teachings. Prior to 1914, the Watchtower believed:

● The Last Days began 1799
● Jesus Parousia started 1874
● Jesus started ruling in heaven in 1878
● The Gentile Times would end in 1914, resulting in the:
○ end of Armageddon
○ fall of false religion
○ end of all earthly governments
○ heavenly and earthly resurrections
○ paradise on earth

The 1914 doctrine has changed by necessity, and continued to change in the twenty first century, as it has been falsified by the progression of history. It has progressed from:

1. The last days started in 1799, ending in 1914.
2. The last days started in 1914, ending within a single lifetime/generation of those born prior to 1914.
3. The last days started in 1914, with an unspecified ending, after a period of an "overlapping generation."

The ability of the Watchtower to accurately foretell the meaning of 1914 is a great source of faith for Jehovah's Witnesses, unaware of what Watchtower said prior to 1914. Nothing Russell said about 1914 came to pass. For Russell and early Watchtower followers, the 2nd of October 1914 was expected to be the the conclusion of this system of things.

the mentally unstable respect false prophets:


In 1876, Russell became interested in time prophecy, after reading a copy of Barbour's publication Herald of the Morning. The end had not come in 1874, as the Adventists had predicted. However, Barbour explained that Matthew 24:27 meant Jesus' invisible presence commenced in 1874, the rapture would be 1878, and the end of the world was to occur in 1914. (See Watch Tower, 1906 July 15 for a detailed account.)

In Russell's doctrinal chronology the most important dates were 1874 and 1914:

"The chapter in SCRIPTURE STUDIES, Vol. II, showing the parallels between the Jewish and Christian Dispensations, makes prominent four dates, viz., (1) October, 1874; (2) April, 1878; (3) October, 1881, and (4) October, 1914;" Watch Tower 1911 June 15 p.190

"The careful student will have observed that the period designated 'The Time of the End' is very appropriately named, since not only does the Gospel age close in it, but in it, also, all prophesies relating to the close of this age terminate, reaching their fulfillments. The same class of readers will have noticed, too, the special importance of the last 40 of these 115 years (1874-1914), called 'The End' or 'Harvest.'" Studies in the Scriptures Series III - Thy Kingdom Come p.121

The timeline below shows Russell's preached the Second Coming of Jesus was 1874, and the start of the 1000 year earthly reign was 1914, as it was to end in 2914 A.D.

TBIZZY:
Who did the devil murder?
What lies does he speak of?
Mind you, I’m not in anyway against your statement, I just want to learn.

Joh 8:44  You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 

looks like you don't believe God's Word

God said you shall not eat or touch the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden
or you will die
the devil deceived eve to eat the fruit knowing it would cause her to die, that's murder
and that's a lie right from the beginning, read the bible yourself for more

achorladey:
Now in our day 20th and 21st century, there is another group of men that are sitting at one table, they never lie or deceive us. We can have absolute trust in the Governing Body........Gary Breaux

the governing body will never lie or deceive them:

What Watchtower said
prior to 1914

"The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239

"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226


What Watchtower claims it said
prior to 1914

"The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5

"Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8




false jw's are such liars and deceivers
even lying to and deceiving each other
taking after their father the devil, of course

achorladey:
Their 20th Century ended in year 1999. We are 24 years into the 21st century. God indeed frustrates falsehood and false prophecies


The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah p. 216

"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."

Watchtower 1984 Mar 1 pp.18-19

"Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!"

"Let Your Kingdom Come" (1981) p.102

"But now in our 20th century, we have come to the time for harvest "a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels"!"

Watchtower 1989 Jan 1 p.12

"He was laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century."

Now in our day 20th and 21st century, there is another group of men that are sitting at one table, they never lie or deceive us. We can have absolute trust in the Governing Body........Gary Breaux

You should Gary

You should Gary

funny

MaxInDHouse:
In the year 1914 Jesus returned!

lost false jw mad max

re 1914 etc, you false jw prophets are all on different pages, of course


Governing Body member Samuel Herd makes the statement in Watchtower's 2016 documentary The Kingdom 100 Years and Counting;

"At the kingdom's birth in 1914, the Bible Students were not exactly sure what was going to happen, but they knew it would be a pivotal year."

This is a fabrication, as Watchtower was dogmatic as to exactly what was going to occur in 1914. Expectations for 1914 were forcefully presented as fact, as shown in the following quotes.

● "the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest" Thy Kingdom Come (1911 ed.) p.228
● "the Day of Vengeance ... will end in October, 1914" The Day of Vengeance p.547
● "the great "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation," will reach its culmination" The Time Is at Hand (1889 ed.) page 77
- page 78
● "we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun" The Time Is At Hand (1889 ed.) p.101
● "we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D.1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99
● "October, 1914, will witness the full end of Babylon" Watch Tower 1911 Jun 15 p.190 (reprints p.4842)
● "Christendom, will have passed away, as already shown in prophecy." Thy Kingdom Come (1891 ed.) p.153

The early followers were as convinced they knew what was going to happen in 1914 as current followers are convinced the Great Tribulation and Armageddon will come at any moment, resulting in the destruction of all worldly people. This is because the same manipulative terminology used prior to 1914 is still used in Watchtower publications to this day.

MaxInDHouse:
Wonderful thread!

Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;



lost false jw mad max

the mentally defective respect false prophets:

jwfacts dot com

Changed Dates :: Failed Predictions
This section covers some of the lesser known failed predictions and changed date doctrine of the Watchtower Society


Jesus said he would provide his followers Holy Spirit to correctly understand what the future holds.

"However, when that one arrives, the spirit of the truth, he will guide YOU into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to YOU the things coming." John 16:13
Whereas doctrine is subjective and un-provable, time prophecy leaves no room for error. On a number of occasions the Watchtower put a line in the sand when saying a specific event was going to happen on a specific date. When those dates passed without event those statements proved beyond argument to be false. When something predicted to happen does not occur there is irrefutable evidence that Jehovah did not direct the interpretation. In line with the Scriptures above, the following incorrect dates prove the Watchtower Society is not guided by Jehovah.

MaxInDHouse:
Great thread!

lost false jw mad max

the gotquestions, and the carm, and the jwfacts, etc. articles are wonderful,
but your much repeated obsessive compulsions are mental disease:

repeating the truth as Christians do is good
but being compelled to repeating the same obsessions over and over again as you false jw's do is mental disease,
and you false jw's are full of repetitive obsessive compulsion in many threads:


your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease

MaxInDHouse:
Are you working with Jesus today?

lost false jw mad max, you a false prophet etc. etc. are not, that's for sure


watchtower lies to everyone including so called Jehovah's witnesses, read on

jwfacts dot com

1914 : Failed Watchtower Prophecy
One of the most misleading statements in Watchtower publications is that they accurately foretold 1914 to be the “start” of the conclusion of this system of things. Rather, Watchtower falsely predicted 1914 to be the “end” of the system of things, the conclusion of Armageddon and the start of the earthly paradise.

It is important to know what Watchtower preached would happen in the years leading up to and including 1914, and compare this with what it now claims was said.

What Watchtower said
prior to 1914

"The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239

"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226


What Watchtower claims it said
prior to 1914

"The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5

"Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8

The contradictory statements above help identify two critical facts:

1. Watchtower falsely predicted this system would end in 1914
2. Watchtower is not entirely honest about its history

MightySparrow:
The gray matter of these folks has been replaced with pap.

you can say that again

MaxInDHouse:
Wonderful thread!

Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly
Jw org: We believe that mental illness is a sad result of man's decline into sin and imperfection

repetitive obsessive compulsion of which there is very many occurrences in threads by so called Jehovah's witnesses
also known as OCD is mental disease



lost false jw mad max

MaxInDHouse:
Are you working with Jesus today?

says lost fraud jw mad max who believes so much revolves around 1914
while other false jw's say differently:

Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874,” (Watchtower Jan 1, 1924 p.5)


Mat_7:15  Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

1Jn_4:1  Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

^^ the false prophet spirits have been tested, and they have been found to be:
paranoid, liars, blasphemers, mentally unstable, etc.

Dan 10:13  But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia. 

michael isn't Jesus Christ, michael is one of the chief princes
and Jesus/the Word, made the chief princes
Jesus/the Word, made everything that is made
Jesus/the Word is not one of His own creation, He is not one the chief princes, but above them - He made them

Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him (Jesus/the Word), and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus was enthroned as king of God's Kingdom in the year 1914!

there are many false dates from you so called Jehovah's witnesses/false prophets,
another one:

The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).


Mat_7:15  Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

1Jn_4:1  Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

^^ the false prophet spirits have been tested, and they have been found to be:
paranoid, liars, blasphemers, mentally unstable, etc.


lost false jw mad max

Aemmyjah:
Jehovah's Witnesses are true Christians

lost false jw aemmy

as you false jw's keep showing over and over again with your repetitive obsessive compulsions
you false jw's are insane, hence lost

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Aemmyjah:
Sweet

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lost false jw aemmy

Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly
Jw org: We believe that mental illness is a sad result of man's decline into sin and imperfection

repetitive obsessive compulsion of which there is very many occurrences in threads by so called Jehovah's witnesses
also known as OCD is mental disease

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^^ repetitive obsessive compulsion < multiple occurrences

lost false jw mickey

repeating the truth as Christians do is good
but being compelled to repeating the same obsessions over and over again as you false jw's do is mental disease,
and you false jw's are full of repetitive obsessive compulsion in many threads:


your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease