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Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 5:52am On Sep 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
It's not that easy to know what God has declared such things are spiritual.
For instance when God declared some people righteous in the Bible did He made it public for all inhabitants of the earth or just within His worshipers?
So if you're not spiritual there are many things you will continue to argue about thinking you're fighting for a just course.
When Jehovah said:
"This is my Son with whom i am well pleased" Matthew 17:5
It was only three humans that were present at the event. Now imagine how millions living on the earth will feel hearing the witness of just three men who heard that statement directly from God. Till today millions of Jews don't believe the testimonies of those three men yet you will claim you believe because it was written in the book you cherish so much.
So you need to understand how God often declare things and what are the vivid evidence that you can see, his other disciples believe not just because those three men told them but they were carefully examining the scriptures to see how events are unfolding afterwards.
In the year 1931 it was announced that God's people will now be called Jehovah's Witnesses most religionists thought it was a joke but today which group is active in preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighborhood just as Jesus commanded his disciples?
Which group is globally known for their love among themselves?
Which group is most hated by all other religionists?
Which group is no part of Satan's political system where people are killing people?
It's only the group known globally as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! smiley
lost false jw mad max

your many words don't change your lie that in these last days
God named your group Jehovah's witnesses.

in 1931 the man rutherford named your group Jehovah's witnesses

MaxInDHouse:
So in this last days Jehovah began calling His worshipers by this group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 5:47am On Sep 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Not all JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are saved yet because most of them don't practice what Jesus taught but they've been noticed by Jehovah who searches all hearts {2Chronicles 16:9} that's why they were declared righteous for surrendering to the righteousness of God.
Only BORN AGAIN Christians are saved for now because they will not be here on earth when Satan is released to test the inhabitants of the earth for the last time. Revelations 20:5-6
truly lost false jw mad max

as i said; "all the saved are witnesses of YHVH"

and habitual liars, the paranoid, blasphemers, etc. are not saved, are not Witnesses of Yahovah

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
All faithful and loyal servants of God are called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES by the true God! Isaiah 43:10 But out of these servants of God comes the only begotten Son of God whose name is Jesus he formed a group that will help all Jehovah's Witnesses to connect one another globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers these group was called CHRISTIANS in the first century but only those who are faithful and loyal to the true God among them are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES just as all descendants of Noah or descendants of Abraham or descendants of Jacob or descendants of David are faithful and loyal to the true God.
So in this last days Jehovah began calling His worshipers by this group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" after pure worship has been adequately restored. This will separate them from rebellious humans who wants to claim they are all part of His worshipers, that's why it's difficult for anyone who's heart is not pure to feel comfortable being among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 35:8smiley
lost false jw mad max

God didn't start calling and name your group Jehovah's witnesses in these last days
rutherford/a man, stated calling and name your group Jehovah's witnesses in 1931

you have no problem blaspheming the Holy Spirit, making Him out to be a liar
and here you are also lying against Jehovah (Yahovah YHVH)

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
The group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" is not for Israelites but all faithful servants of God.
So according to a BORN AGAIN Christian called apostle Paul faithful people like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Moses, Joshua , Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, Deborah, Samuel ,David and many others are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
At your leisure you can read Hebrews 11:4-34
@ Hebrews 12:1 apostle Paul encouraged his fellow Christians to learn how to do faithful and loyal to Jehovah like these ancient servants of God.
So the name is for all faithful servants of God whether such ones happened to live in the time of Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Jacob or even Joseph and Mary they are all Jehovah's Witnesses.
Thank you! smiley
lost false jw mad max

all the saved are witnesses of YHVH
no group is named "Jehovah's witnesses" by God as you lie and say
God said to the faithful israelites; "you are my witnesses", not; i name you Jehovah's witnesses

habital liars and the paranoid and blasphemers etc. are not witnesses of YHVH
Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 9:00am On Sep 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
All faithful and loyal servants of God are called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES by the true God! Isaiah 43:10
But out of these servants of God comes the only begotten Son of God whose name is Jesus he formed a group that will help all Jehovah's Witnesses to connect one another globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers these group was called CHRISTIANS in the first century but only those who are faithful and loyal to the true God among them are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES just as all descendants of Noah or descendants of Abraham or descendants of Jacob or descendants of David are faithful and loyal to the true God.
So in this last days Jehovah began calling His worshipers by this group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" after pure worship has been adequately restored.
This will separate them from rebellious humans who wants to claim they are all part of His worshipers, that's why it's difficult for anyone who's heart is not pure to feel comfortable being among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 35:8smiley
Isa 43:10  You are My witnesses, declares the LORD, And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me. 

lost false jw mad max

in the verse you mentioned
God did not say to israel "you are to be called Jehovah's witnesses
God said to israel "you are my witness", God had already named them "Israel", HE did not change their name

you do so twist and lie, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


your lies, paranoia, and blasphemy, even of the Holy Spirit, show that you are definitely not Jehovah's witness but a false jw/a fraud
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 11:13pm On Sep 02, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"Tom: You stated earlier that Pastor Russell was not too certain as to exactly what would take place in 1914. Was that the general attitude of the Witnesses at that time?

John: There is no doubt that many throughout this period were overzealous in their statements as to what could be expected. Some read into the Watch Tower statements that were never intended, and while it was necessary for Russell to call attention to the certainty that a great change was due at the end of the Gentile times, he still encouraged his readers to keep an open mind, especially as regards the time element." Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose p.52

Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.62

Watchtower blames those who believed they were going to heaven on misunderstanding the message and labels those that stop following the Watchtower leaders as having been serving out of wrong motives.

"Disappointed expectations as to the return of the Lord Jesus had in the 19th century caused many followers of William Miller and various Adventist groups to lose faith. But what about the Bible Students associated with Russell? Had some been attracted by the thought of their own early salvation rather than love for God and a strong desire to do his will?" Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.62
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 11:12pm On Sep 02, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"That the harvest began in 1878, there is ample and convincing proof. The end of the harvest is due in the spring of 1918." Watch Tower May 1 1918 p.132

This was covered in detail with the release of the last book of Studies in the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery.

"The data presented in comments on Rev. 2:1 prove that the conquest of Judea was not completed until the day of the Passover, A.D. 73, and in the light of the foregoing Scriptures, prove that the Spring of 1918 will bring upon Christendom a spasm of anguish greater even than that experienced in the Fall of 1914. Reexamine the table of the Parallel Dispensations in STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES, Vol. 2, pages 246 and 247; change the 37 to 40, 70 to 73, and 1914 to 1918, and we believe it is correct and will be fulfilled with great power and glory. (Mark 13:26)" p.62

"The awakening of the sleeping saints, A. D. 1878, was just half way (three and one-half years each way) between the beginning of the Times of Restitution in 1874 and the close of the High Calling in 1881. Our proposition is that the glorification of the Little Flock in the Spring of 1918 A. D. will be half way (three and one-half years each way) between the close of the Gentile Times and the close of the Heavenly Way, A. D. 1921." p.64
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 11:08pm On Sep 02, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Better ignore that fool
Acting like a parasite 🪱 that needs to attach to something for survival
lost false jw aemmy

all you people can do is lie, oh and blaspheme, and be paranoid, and agree with each others lies etc.etc.
unity before truth, don't you forget that oh false jw

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 11:03pm On Sep 02, 2024
achorladey:
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
smiley he so dum
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
So if you want to kill yourself on my thread where hundreds of Nairalanders are reading daily it's understandable!
most dum and lost false jw mad max

before i posted today in this your thread there were about 90 viewers
over three days, that's 30 viewers a day, not hundreds of viewers a day

even in all of your threads, if there were hundreds of viewers a day;

1. how many out of your hundreds of viewers reply to you daily?
and out of those who do reply to you;
2. how many are in agreement with you?

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 11:22am On Sep 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
https://www.nairaland.com/5813244/cuddly-beautiful
https://www.nairaland.com/4903758/bit-fun
https://www.nairaland.com/4444309/art-biblical
This is all your brain could ever produce for the past six and a half years on Nairaland and none got the attention of interested followers that could extend it to a second page.
So if you want to kill yourself on my thread where hundreds of Nairalanders are reading daily it's understandable! wink
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;

oh duh lost false jw mad max

your insanity is showing again still

A delusion of grandeur is the false belief in one's own superiority, greatness, or intelligence. People experiencing delusions of grandeur do not just have high self-esteem; instead, they believe in their own greatness and importance even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

delusions of grandeur is mental disease
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 10:23am On Sep 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 9:49am On Sep 02, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

Those that stopped following Russell did so because they came to the conclusion he was a charlatan. They did not "let go of the Lord", but rather came to realise that Russell and his interpretations could not be trusted. It is of extreme arrogance for Russell to equate those that stopped following his failed teachings with leaving the Lord, and of impure motives, and it is of little wonder that many came to recognise him as a false teacher.

Rutherford continued with this strategy of blaming members for their enthusiasm in accepting Watchtower information as truth.

"It seems to be a weakness of many Bible Students that if they locate a future date in the Bible, immediately they center as many prophecies upon that date as possible. This has been the cause of many siftings in the past. As far as we recall, all the dates foreseen were correct. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, there were inclined to throw away everything. ... Many can remember how "absolutely sure" some were about 1914. No doubt the Lord was pleased with the zeal manifested by his servants; but did they have a Scriptural basis for all they expected to come to pass that year? Let us be cautious, therefore about predicting particulars." Watch Tower 1925 Feb 15 p.57

It is disappointing to note Watchtower continues being critical of these individuals in the early 1900's, rather than lay blame where it squarely belongs, on Watchtower leaders.
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 9:47am On Sep 02, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

1917

The first printing of Studies In the Scriptures Series VII - The Finished Mystery was June 1917, in which the end of World War One was predicted for October 1st, 1917. Subsequent printings retrospectively stated the war ended 1918.

p.268
75,000 edition "Is not yet come.- But is due to make its appearance with the close of the war, some time about October 1st, 1917. (See comments on Rev. 16:17-21; Ex. 10:23.)" Click here for scan
2,604,000 edition "Is not yet come. - But is due to make its appearance after the close of the war, probably early in the year 1918. (See comments on Rev. 16:17-21; Ex. 10:23.)" Click here for scan

1918

It did not take long for the extension of the chronology following the failure of the end to come in 1914. In 1916, Russell predicted the "harvest work" would end in 1918, with the destruction of all religion. It also became the year that the resurrection for the heavenly ones was to start.

"Incidentally we remark that some historians put the end of the Jewish Time of Trouble as April A.D. 73, which would correspond to April 1918." Watch Tower 1916 Sep 1 p.265

"The parallel, therefore, would establish definitely that the harvest would close forty years thereafter; to wit, in the spring of A.D. 1918. If this be true, and the evidence is very conclusive that it is true, then we have only a few months in which to labor before the great night settles down when no man can work." Watch Tower Oct 1 1917 p.292,293
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 9:41am On Sep 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
On my thread o!Walahi talahi hatred for truth can render people unquenchably stupid.
lost false jw mad max

when you speak lies you are speaking naturally,
just like the devil, of course

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 8:30am On Sep 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
See the person who said i Maximus is following his articles from the Internet up and down. For almost a year now he's been quoting me incessantly as if i'm the only person on Nairaland while i'm moving from thread to thread chatting with others! smiley
lost false jw mad max

i sometimes post to you concerning just a few of your many lies,
you don't like it, good continue crying, and continue lying:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


false jw, you left out the best bit @bold
johnw47: paranoid lost false jw mad max

you follow my articles from the internet up and down in threads,
posting the same things over and over and over again,
that's okay, you crazy smiley


paranoia of course is a fearful mental disease:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 1:11am On Sep 02, 2024
so called Jehovah's witnesses:
false prophets, false date setters, false witnesses, false jesus, etc.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 1:07am On Sep 02, 2024
Jesus performed miracles by the Holy Spirit
the pharisees said Jesus performed miracles by the spirit of the devil mat 12:24
thst is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit

the Holy Spirit is not a liar
lost false jw mad max said; olaadegbu and emusan and johnw47, are the same person, the Holy Spirit told me
that is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit

lost fraud jw janosky called the Holy Spirit; "a god" and "the ole demon ghost" etc.

^^
and other false jw's agreed with and/or gave likes to those posts:

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.



and those people post here as if they are saved, and even saying that they are God's people
they don't come any more deluded than that:

Jer_10:8  But they are altogether stupid and foolish In their discipline of delusion—their idol is wood!

they not only habitually lie and blaspheme even the Holy Spirit,
but like some people have their idols imaged in wood or stone
false jw's have their idols imaged in photos

below is a idol (photo) of a few of their idols (fellow false jw's)
holding idols (photos) of another idol (a false jesus)

Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 11:33pm On Sep 01, 2024
tctrills:
They don't even know what they follow
smiley they dum, that's for sure
Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 10:46pm On Sep 01, 2024
Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses What Is The Difference?
Christians follow Christ through the Holy Spirit

so called Jehovah's witnesses follow Jehovah through false prophets
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:32pm On Sep 01, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

Blame the Members

As soon as proven wrong about 1914, Russell went into damage control, dishonestly rewriting history. Reading through the older publications, it is evident how forcefully the predictions for 1914 were presented as truth. Russell began claiming his teachings were nothing more than inference.

“The Lord did not say that the Church would all be glorified by 1914. We merely inferred it and, evidently, erred.” Watch Tower 1916 Apr 15 reprints p.5888

“We did not say positively that this would be the year. We merely left every one to look at the facts of history and reckon for himself. ... But would it be a reasonable expectation that the Gentile Kingdoms would be snuffed out inside of an hour or inside of a day? ... We do not think that any would have been justified in so thinking. If any had such expectation, it was unwarranted.” Watch Tower 1914 Nov 1 pp.325-326 reprints p.5565

Even more unsavoury is the manner in which Russell attacked the motives of those that stopped being his followers.

"If there is any reason that would lead any to let go of the Lord and His Truth and to cease sacrificing for the Lord’s Cause, then it is not merely the love of God in the heart which has prompted interest in the Lord, but something else; probably a hoping that the time was short; the consecration was only for a certain time. If so, now is a good time to let go.” Watch Tower 1914 Nov 1 reprints p.5570

"The present is a time of testing, we believe, to many of the Lord's people. Have we in the past been active merely because we hoped for our glorious change in A.D. 1914, or have we been active because of our love and loyalty to the Lord and his message and the brethren!" Watch Tower 1915 Mar 1 reprints p.5649
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 10:30pm On Sep 01, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

1915 was to herald the end of worldly government and the reestablishment of Palestine.

"Be that as it may, there is evidence that the establishment of the Kingdom in Palestine will probably be in 1925, ten years later than we once calculated." Studies In the Scriptures Series VII - The Finished Mystery p.128

When nothing happened in 1915 the Watchtower went back to using 1914.

It was not until 1943 that the Watchtower Society explained once more that there is no year zero. However this time they did not use 1915 as Russell had done when acknowledging his mistake. The Watchtower decided to retain 1914, and was able to do so by changing the date for the destruction of Jerusalem from 606 B.C. to 607 B.C.

"Providentially, those Bible Students had not realized that there is no zero year between "B.C." and "A.D." Later, when research made it necessary to adjust B.C. 606 to 607 B.C.E., the zero year was also eliminated, so that the prediction held good at "A.D. 1914."-See "The Truth Shall Make You Free," published by the Watch Tower Society in 1943, page 239." Revelation - Its Grand Climax at Hand! p. 105

Since it was prior to 1914 that Russell and the Bible Students identified there was "no year zero," the above comment is dishonest. The year zero was not removed because research led to 607 B.C., but rather the elimination of the year zero led to moving from 606 B.C to 607 B.C.

The Society changed history with the stroke of a pen, however neither 607 B.C. nor 606 B.C. is correct. All historical evidence shows that Jerusalem fell in 587 B.C. an understanding that undermines the entire basis for 1914.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 9:33am On Sep 01, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"In the year 1943 the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society published the book "The Truth Shall Make You Free." ... This moved forward the end of six thousand years of man's existence into the decade of the 1970's. Naturally this did away with the year 1874 C.E. as the date of return of the Lord Jesus Christ and the beginning of his invisible presence or parousia. ... Page 324 of the above book positively says: "The King's presence or parousia began in 1914."" God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years Has Approached pp.209-210

Why has the Watchtower Society discontinued its belief in all their original date interpretations but retained 1914? The occurrence of World War One appeared to give 1914 historical significance whilst none are able to be attached to any of the other 20 or so dates promoted. However, the Watchtower explanation of the prophecy of the Seven Times is examined and shown to be based on historical errors and inconsistent reasoning, leaving no reason to say that 1914 is of any relevance to us today.
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 9:31am On Sep 01, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

With the outbreak of World War One in August 1914, Russell reconfirmed that the end would be October 1914. When nothing happened in October 1914 Russell reused the idea that 1915 would signal the end.

"In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D. 1915. ...

Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878, and that the "battle of the great day of God Almighty" (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1915, with the complete overthrow of the earth's present rulership, is already commenced. ...

The "Gentile Times" prove that the present governments must all be overturned about the close of 1915 A.D." Studies In the Scriptures Series II - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. pp.99, 101, 242
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47:
Emusan:
You did HERE

Lying liar Jws like his father the Devil. cheesy grin cheesy grin
MaxInDHouse: Jesus Christ returned in the year 1914!
Emusan: The year Watchtower lied against God and His word that Jesus return when Jesus said "NO ONE KNOWS THE DATE" this singular statement from Jesus Christ actually proved anyone talking about A SPECIFIC DATE as a false teacher.

The funny thing is, you agreed Jesus never talked about 1914

The same you also agree that just as Jesus never spoke about ANY SPECIFIC DATE Watchtower are the true followers of Jesus for now MENTIONING ANY SPECIFIC DATE

The same you still shouting 1914 which is a SPECIFIC DATE in which Jesus never mentioned nor ANY ONE KNOWS EXCEPT THE FATHER.

Very pathetic with a lying lair speaking from both side of his mouth. grin grin cheesy grin grin grin
MaxInDHouse: Since the year 1914!
smiley
emusan, mad max is following you up and down too
with his repetitive obsessive compulsions, which is mental disease


a few of mad max's disorders;
uncontrollable repetitive obsessive compulsions > Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD)
Paranoia
Delusions of Grandeur
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47:
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"We shall be as glad as any one if we shall all experience our change from earthly to spirit conditions before 1915, and and this is our expectation; but if this should not be the Lord's will, then it would not be our will. So far as we have been able to see up to the present time, the failure of a full development of matters in 1915, or before, would imply that all the chronological arrangements, as we have them, are wrong--our view of the Harvest and all. And we have no reason to believe that these are wrong. We remember that we are not infallible, and that our judgment is not infallible; but the wonderful inventions of today, and the light that is dawning in every direction, as well as the universal unrest, seem in corroboration of the chronology--that we are in the dawning of the New Age. But just how far along we are we do not positively know." Watch Tower 1914 Jan 1 p.5 (reprints 5374)

When Jesus earthly kingdom did not eventuate in 1914, Watchtower publications began to promote 1915. When 1915 amounted to nothing, the entire meaning of all Russell's prophetic interpretation required rewriting. It took until 1943[2] for the new understanding to finally be clarified.
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1915

In 1912 Russell explained that he did not know how to account for the year 0 between B.C. and A.D. and that the end could be in either 1914 or 1915. The 2520 years of Daniels seven times prophecy extends from 606 to 1915 once the year zero between B.C. and A.D. is removed.

"Then, we were content to say, "606 B.C. seems a well authenticated date for the destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar, and B.C. 536 the date when the seventy years' appointed desolation of the land ceased." …
As to the methods of counting, Encyclopaedia Britannica says, "Astronomers denote the year which preceded the first of our era as 0 and the year previous to that as B.C. 1-the previous year B.C. 2, and so on."

Whichever of these ways we undertake to calculate the matter the difference between the results is one year. The seventy years of Jewish captivity ended October, 536 B.C., and if there were 536-1/4 years B.C., then to complete the 2,520 years' cycle of the Times of the Gentiles would require 1913-3/4 years of A.D., or to October, 1914. But if the other way of reckoning were used, then there were but 535-1/4 years of the period B.C., and the remainder of the 2,520 years would reach to A.D., 1914-3/4 years, otherwise October, 1915.

Since this question is agitating the minds of a considerable number of the friends, we have presented it here in some detail. We remind the readers, however, that nothing in the Scriptures says definitely that the trouble upon the Gentiles will be accomplished before the close of the Times of the Gentiles, whether that be October, 1914, or October, 1915. The trouble doubtless will be considerable before the final crash, even though that crash come suddenly, like the casting of a great millstone into the sea. (Rev. 18:21.) The parallel between the Jewish Harvest and the present Harvest would corroborate the thought that the trouble to the full will be accomplished by October, 1915." Watch Tower 1912 Dec 1 pp. 377-8
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1914

1914 has been a pivotal date for the Watchtower. The expectations prior to 1914 included it being the end of the Gentile Times, the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all governments, the resurrection, the start of Jesus 1000 year reign and paradise on earth.
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1910

1910 was another date for the 'rapture', with the Bible Students expecting to be taken to heaven. Studies in the Scriptures Series 3 p.364 (versions printed before 1910) based this teaching on measurements from the Great Pyramid of Gizeh. It was also to Herald the time of Great trouble upon the Churches.

"It is but a few years before the full close of the time of trouble which ends the Gentile times; and when we remember the Lord's words-that the overcomers shall be accounted worthy to escape the severest of the trouble coming upon the world we may understand the reference to be to the anarchous trouble which will follow October, 1914; but a trouble chiefly upon the Church may be expected about 1910 A.D. The four years from 1910 to the end of 1914, indicated thus in the Great Pyramid, will doubtless be a time of "fiery trial" upon the Church (1 Cor. 3:15) preceding the anarchy of the world, which cannot last long- "Except those days should be shortened there should no flesh be saved." Matt. 24:22" Studies In the Scriptures Series III - Thy Kingdom Come p.364
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Russell stated in Zion's Watch Tower 1892 Jan 1 p.22 that "never was there such a general time of banding together as at present." Yet all this weight of evidence that the 1800's were the "last days" has since been discarded. Today, only one prophecy is used to specifically point to 1914 as the start of Jesus presence; that is, the Seven Times. The other scriptural proofs are now considered to have been wrong.

As impressive as Russell's reasoning looks, it was progressively changed as one prediction after another failed to eventuate. Russell originally wrote that the Bible Students ascension to heaven and the fall of Babylon were to happen in years prior to 1914. 1914 was just the date when the Gentile times would end and paradise be established on earth. As his predictions failed to eventuate these occurrences were moved to 1914. Russell was clearly wrong when not one of these had occurred by the end of 1914
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1906

Russell predicted a great war for 1906. As early as the Zion's Watch Tower 1892 January 15 Russell had stated;

"Then "Woe to the man or nation who starts the next war in Europe; for it will be a war of extermination." if not brought to an end by the establishment of god's Kingdom in the hands of his elect and then glorified Church, it would exterminate the race - Matt. 24:22."

The European War was said to be fulfilment of prophecy. When the Russo-Japanese war began in 1904, Russell suggested in Zion's Watch Tower 1904 March 1 that it would suck in all Europe fulfilling his prophecy for 1906.
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1881

1881 became the next prophesied year that the sealing of the 144,000 was to be complete. This was to be at the end of 7 harvest years after the jubilee cycles had ended in 1874.

"the gathering of the bride into the place of safety, will occupy a parallel of seven years of time, ending in 1881" Zion's Watch Tower 1881 January p.1

"To our understanding the general call to this joint heirship with our Redeemer as members of the New Creation of God, ceased in 1881." Studies In the Scriptures Series VI - New Creation 1915 ed. p.95

"As in the type that date - three and a half years after the death of Christ - marked the end of all special favor to the Jew and the beginning of favor to the Gentiles, so we recognize A.D. 1881 as marking the close of the high calling, or invitation to the blessing peculiar to this age - to become joint-heirs with Christ and partakers of the divine nature." Studies In the Scriptures Series II - The Time Is At Hand 1915 ed. p.235

"The General Call To The High Calling Ceased-9 Even though the general call ceased in 1881, the door to the high calling remains open, as shown by number 9. However, it is only when one who is spirit begotten has to be replaced, (on account of being overcharged with the cares of this world, or sinful living, or loss of faith), that one, desirous of doing the Father's will, is invited to enter the narrow way as a replacement. The door to the high calling will remain open until the bride has made herself ready." Explanation of Chart Representing the Plan of the Ages

"It was also reasoned that the end of God's special favor to natural Israel down to 36 C.E. might point to 1881 as the time when the special opportunity to become part of spiritual Israel would close." Jehovah's Witnesses-Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.632

Once again it was believed that the remaining of the 144,000 would be taken by the rapture straight to heaven. In January 1881 the Watchtower stated that "the translation or change from the natural to the spiritual condition, [is] due this side or by the fall of our year 1881."

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