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Christianity EtcRe: Part 3: JW PIMO Reconsiders Trinity Doctrine by johnw47: 12:11am On Sep 15, 2024
Janosky:
They must seek solace in barrage of insults, personal attacks
grin grin grin grin
lost fraud jw janosky

which is insults and personal attacks
this fact:

MightySparrow: Simple question they won't answer but making
ridiculous quotations out of their spurious NWT to mislead people.
or this sewer talk;
Janosky: Oponu Empty soul and LYING miscreant's brain is filled with sand.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
you not only insult and attack the person, you also lie like hell, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 11:42pm On Sep 14, 2024
Joh 18:36  Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 
Joh 18:37  Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice. 

pilate said to Jesus; "are you King"
Jesus replied; " My Kingdom is not of this world, meaning it's in Heaven

pilate said; "are you a King then"
Jesus replied; "for this reason I was born, meaning; "yes I am a King"
and Jesus had already shown His Kingdom is in Heaven
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 11:42am On Sep 14, 2024
Did Jesus become king in 1914?

Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that Jesus was not reigning as king in heaven until October of 1914. They profess that “At that time, “the appointed times of the nations” ended, and Jesus Christ was installed as God’s heavenly King.” (“What does the Bible Really Teach?”, pg 217 Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 2005) While the manner at which they arrive at the 1914 dates is demonstrably erroneous and has produced a continuous chain of false prophecies, there is still another matter to be critiqued in this teaching. Jesus did not wait until the 20th century to become king. The Bible is clear that Jesus was already appointed king at His first coming and has been reigning in heaven since His ascension. The apostles carried out their missionary work precisely on the basis that Jesus was already king. When Jesus issued the great commission, He told them:

“And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, ‘All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age,'” (Matthew 28:18-20).

Notice that Jesus does not simply tell them to go. He tells them that He has been given all authority both in heaven and on earth, and therefore they are to go. Their whole ministry of making disciples of all nations was rooted directly in the fact that Jesus presently already ruled with all authority in heaven and on earth. Paul likewise writes of His gospel ministry that “we are ambassadors for Christ,” (2 Corinthians 5:20). Ambassadors are sent by kings. The apostles preached with authority because they were commissioned and sent by Christ who possessed all authority. The Apostles went because their king sent them.

In the book of Revelation, we also read:

“John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood— and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen. Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen,” (Revelation 1:4-7).

Notice the distinction this makes between future events that will transpire at Christ’s coming and the present tense reality of who Jesus already is at the time that John wrote Revelation. John and the churches already knew Jesus to be “the ruler of the kings of the earth.” That was not something Jesus would later become. That was already who He was. Jesus was reigning from heaven over all the kings of the earth at the time John wrote the book of Revelation which, last I checked, was well before October of 1914. Paul again concurs when He writes that, “He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet,” (1 Corinthians 15:25).

As far back as Jesus’ birth, the Magi recognized that He was already king:

“Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him,” (Matthew 2:2).

In fact, the very words Christ and Messiah mean “anointed one,” and in this context mean that He is the anointed king.

The Jehovah’s Witness teaching that Jesus was in heaven for 2,000 years without his royal authority and only became king in the early 20th century at the onset of World War I is untenable in light of the clear New Testament teaching. Jesus came as a king and had already received all authority before He ascended into heaven. Jesus was, is, and ever will be the ruler of the kings of the earth. Jesus did not become Lord and King in the modern era. Jesus has long been the heavenly King.

carm dot org
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 11:41am On Sep 14, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus became king in the year 1914!
lost false jw mad max

Jesus was born King
Mat_2:2  asking, “Where is the One who has been born King of the Jews? We saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”

Jesus was King when He went to Jerusalem
Mat_21:5  “Say to the Daughter of Zion, ‘See, your King comes to you, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.’”
Luk 19:38  “Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord!” “Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!” 
Joh_12:13  They took palm branches and went out to meet Him, shouting: “Hosanna!” “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!” “Blessed is the King of Israel!”

Joh_1:49  “Rabbi,” Nathanael answered, “You are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!”
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 9:57am On Sep 14, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

Watchtower spent decades promoting its most prominent doctrine that the end would occur in 1914. Should a person trust Watchtower when it was proven so dramatically wrong? Can a person trust it when it continues to resort to deception when presenting its history? How can a person belong to an organization that refuses to accept responsibility for its mistakes, passing the blame to its faithful followers?

The admonition from Paul at 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 is apt.

"However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of YOU not to be quickly shaken from YOUR reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here."

In view of how Watchtower lies about its past mistakes, Is This Life All There Is? page 46 asks a pertinent question:

"Knowing these things, what will you do? It is obvious that the true God, who is himself "the God of truth" and who hates lies, will not look with favor on persons who cling to organizations that teach falsehood. (Psalm 31:5; Proverbs 6:16-19; Revelation 21:8] And, really, would you want to be even associated with a religion that had not been honest with you?"

"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true." Watchtower 1991 Dec 1 p.7
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by johnw47: 9:56am On Sep 14, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

1920

1920 was another of Rutherford's foretold ends for Christendom and all government. Notice how this prediction was changed between the 1918 and 1926 edition of Studies In the Scriptures - The Finished Mystery

p.179
1918 ed. We anticipate that the "earthquake" will occur early in 1918, and that the "fire" will come in the fall of 1920.
1926 ed. We anticipate that the "earthquake" will occur early in 1918, and that the "fire" will follow in due course.

p.258
1918 ed. Even the republics will disappear in the fall of 1920. The three days In which Pharaoh's host pursued the Israelites into the wilderness represent the three years from 1917 to 1920 at which time all of Pharaoh's messengers will be swallowed up in the sea of anarchy.
1926 ed. Even the republics will disappear in the time of anarchy. The three days in which Pharaoh's host pursued the Israelites into the wilderness may represent the three years preceding the time of anarchy at which time all of Pharaoh's messengers will be swallowed up in the sea of angry humanity.

p.313
1918 ed. The masses of mankind, not under religious restraint - the condition of the whole world in the time of anarchy due in its full severity in the fall of 1920.
1926 ed. The masses of mankind, not under religious restraint - the condition of the whole world in the time of anarchy due in its full severity in the end of the time of trouble.

p.542
1918 ed. "As the fleshly-minded apostates from Christianity, aiding with the radicals and revolutionaries, will rejoice at the inheritance of desolation that will be Christendom's after 1918, so will God do to the successful revolutionary movement; it shall be utterly desolated, "even all of it" Not one vestige of it shall survive the ravages of world-wide all-embracing anarchy, in the fall of 1920."
1926 ed. "As the fleshly-minded apostates from Christianity, siding with the radicals and revolutionaries, will rejoice at the inheritance of desolation that will be Christendom's after 1918, so will God do to the successful revolutionary movement; it shall be utterly desolated, "even all of it." Not one vestige of it shall survive the ravages of world-wide all-embracing anarchy, in the end of the time of trouble."
Christianity EtcRe: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by johnw47:
Michael547:
Lovely
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Michael547: Nice thread
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Michael547: Lovely
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would you have this person of repetitive obsessions inspect a car for you:

Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.
Christianity EtcRe: Part 2: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine by johnw47: 11:52pm On Sep 13, 2024
Janosky:
The same WAILING WAILER abusing & insulting JW's for telling him the Bible truth hoarded by his gods of men 3 deities devotees.
grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

of course u r forever unable to stop lying and blaspheming, calling the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible;
3 deities which means 3 gods

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:12am On Sep 13, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

The stream of time has proven all Watchtower predicted for 1914 wrong, either by it changing its doctrine on specific points, or definitive predictions not occurring. Yet, Watchtower boasts about this part of its history, choosing to gloat over its remarkable foresight that the Gentile Times would end in 1914.

"Very noteworthy was the striking accuracy with which that book pointed to the end of the Gentile Times, "the appointed times of the nations."" Yearbook 1975 p.37

The end of the Gentile times are a vague and unverifiable concept, and it cannot be proven they ended in 1914, making it hardly noteworthy that a prediction was made that cannot be proven or disproven. Likewise, it cannot be proven that Jesus started ruling in 1914, as the Watchtower describes this as an unseen event. What is noteworthy that the verifiable predictions Watchtower made for 1914, such as the end of religion, the end of government, and the earthly resurrection, all failed to eventuate.

Russell was not guided by Jehovah to uniquely understand Daniel's prophecy of the Seven Times; he took his interpretation from Adventists such as Barbour. His interpretation was wrong, as he adamantly stated that 1914 would be "the final end" of this system of things. Watchtower has not presented a consistent understanding of 1914 and the current interpretation was not finalised until 1943.
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 10:11am On Sep 13, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

The Finished Mystery was heralded as further proof that the end of the harvest was nigh, and the heavenly class were due to be called beyond "the veil".

"It is with sincere joy that we are privileged to report that amongst the activities of the WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY for 1917 the Seventh Volume of STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES has been published and is now going forth. We count this as another one of the strong proofs that the harvest is nearing the end, and that in all probability the Spring of 1918 will mark the beginning of the closing up of all activities of the kingdom class on this side the veil." Watch Tower Dec 15 1917 pp.373-374

A later quote claims that though these predictions were wrong, the dates were correct. That too has turned out to be wrong, since 1925 no longer holds significance to Jehovah's Witnesses.

There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovahs faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1914, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time. Later the faithful learned that these dates were definitely fixed in the Scriptures; and they also learned to quit fixing dates for the future and predicting what would come to pass on a certain date. Vindication I (1931) pp.338-339
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
He's just on a test run madman whose families are nursing unknowingly, the day Babylon the Great is exterminated by the Wild Beast this one will start looking for JWs to attack claiming we are the cause of their slaughtered mother: Babylon the Great.
Are we still having the Bible study by 2:30?
lost false jw mad max

there is destruction coming for babylon the great, but you false jw's said; babylon would be destroyed in 1914:

In 1911, Russell wrote that October 1914 would witness the "full end" of Babylon, "utterly destroyed as a system".
when your false prophecies/false dates, fail, you are given new light continuing darkness, with more false prophecies and false dates etc. as shown in the jwfacts dot com articles

Jesus said to look out for false prophets and false teachers in the end times

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47:
achorladey:
😂🤣😂🤣 They are as good as their babylon that has fallen
smiley yes they are false prophets/false date setters, and they talk a lot of babble too
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:04am On Sep 12, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

Carl Sagan regarding Watchtower predictions

Carl Sagan made an important observation regarding a "prominent American religion [which] confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914." Whilst not naming the religion, there is little doubt who he was referring to. He is not at all flattering about people that choose to accept the reasoning for why the world did not end as expected then, and continue to follow such evasive religious leaders.

"Doctrines that make no predictions are less compelling than those which make correct predictions; they are in turn more successful than doctrines that make false predictions.

But not always. One prominent American religion confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and -- while the events of that year were certainly of some importance -- the world does not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended. There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, "Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014.' A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvenienced in any way." But they did not. They could have said, "Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth." But they did not. Instead, they did something much more ingenious.

They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration were needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry."

Broca's Brain, Carl Sagan (New York: Ballantine Books, 1979, pp. 332-33)
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 10:02am On Sep 12, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"The people who are the strength of Christendom shall be cut off in the brief but terribly eventful period beginning in 1918 A.D. A third part are 'burned with fire in the midst of the city.' Fire symbolizes destruction. One large part of the adherents of ecclesiasticism will die from pestilence and famine. (Deut. 32:24.) After 1918 the people supporting churchianity will cease to be its supporters, be destroyed as adherents, by the spiritual pestilence of errors abroad, and by the famine of the Word of God among them. The Sword of the Spirit (Eph. 6:17), which is the Word of God, will be wielded in the hands of 'Present Truth' believers in such a manner as to cause conscientious supporters of ecclesiasticism to cease to be supporters." pp.398-399

"Also, in the year 1918, when God destroys the churches wholesale and the church members by millions, it shall be that any that escape shall come to the works of Pastor Russell to learn the meaning of the downfall of Christianity." p.485
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 9:29am On Sep 11, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

This is a common Watchtower formula; blame the members. Rather then apologise for error, say the followers were overzealous, misunderstood things or read into things. As prior quotes showed, this is just not true. The statements flowed unendingly, "this is an established truth", there is "proof", these things "will" occur. It was spelled out so clearly there was no need for the members to read in what was not intended.

Possibly worse is that these mistakes are also handed off to be the fault of the Lord. Rather than admit he had spent decades misleading people, Russell passes blame to the Lord for overruling these lies and false prophecies.

"The author acknowledges that in this book he presents the thought that the Lord's saints might expect to be with Him in glory at the ending of the Gentile Times. This was a natural mistake to fall into, but the Lord overruled it for the blessing of His people." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is At Hand 1916 foreword iv

The 1916 foreword to The Time is At Hand introduced the comment that the book "makes no claim to infallibility".

"This Volume makes no claim to infallibility, and no claim of any direct inspiration from God in the interpretation of His Word. On the contrary, it does claim that the Divine Revelation is the Bible. Its endeavour has been to collate the Bible evidences to offer suggestions in respect to the significance." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is At Hand 1916 foreword i

Russell had attracted thousands of convinced followers with statements that his interpretations were beyond doubt, and then when proven wrong excused this deception by adding a simple foreword that he never claimed to be infallible.

The Governing Body continues to use this strategy to great effect,

"The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction." Watchtower 2017 Feb p.26

The Governing body take this concept even further than intended by Russell, by demanding absolute allegiance to their interpretation as spirit directed truth, then allowing an escape route by claiming they are not inspired. This is disingenuous, as being directed by holy spirit is the same as being inspired.
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 9:26am On Sep 11, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"It seems conclusive that the hour of Nominal Zions travail is fixed for the Passover of 1918. (See Rev. 3:14.) That will be 7 years prior to 1925. At that time there is every reason to believe the fallen angels will invade the minds of many of the Nominal Church people, driving them to exceedingly unwise conduct and leading to their destruction at the hands of the enraged masses, who will later be dragged to the same fate." p.128

"Brother Russell put the question to three prominent brethren, all of whom replied that they did not know, but were willing to wait and see. When he called upon me I said, Since the year 73 A.D. saw the complete overthrow of nominal Natural Israel in Palestine, so in the parallel year 1918, I infer we should look for the complete overthrow of nominal Spiritual Israel; i.e., the fall of Babylon. (Rev.18.) Brother Russell replied; Exactly. That is exactly the inference to draw. The conclusion of the Churchs career comes first. (Rev. 3:14.)" p.129
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 9:25am On Sep 11, 2024
^^ false jw's mental instability over and over again, of course

you can see false jw insanity also in the articles i post about them, like the one below
Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
Are you a Christian or you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses? smiley
lost false jw mad max


i am a Christian and i am a witness of Yahovah

you are neither, you are a false jw

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:39am On Sep 10, 2024
false prophecies/false date settings, of the so called Jehovahs witnesses: jwfacts dot com

"Their thoughts and desires had been fixed primarily on the prospect of being changed to heavenly life. When this did not occur at the anticipated time, they closed their minds to the significance of the amazing things that did take place in 1914. They lost sight of all the precious truths that they had learned from God’s Word, and they began to ridicule the people who had helped them to learn these." Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.636

This is such a conceited comment. Bible Students were attracted to Russell's message because they thought it was truth, and when he was proven to be a fraud they stopped following him. If some believed in a resurrection prior to Russell, whilst following Russell's teachings, and after they ceased to believe his interpretations, it is irrelevant whether they hoped the resurrection would come "early." At least, they were honest enough to admit they had been deceived.

The Yearbook 2014 discusses how some members carried a countdown card that ended with the date 1st October 1914. It avoids mentioning the Watchtower's responsibility for such expectations.

“Some Bible Students even carried a countdown card so that they could mark off each passing day. Many felt that they would be called beyond the veil, or to heaven, on that date.” Yearbook 2014 p.174

Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:36am On Sep 10, 2024
so called Jehovah's witnesses say when old prophecy and dates fail,
and they give a new prophecy or date, that it is new light

the thing is, the new prophecy's and dates also fail, it is not new light,
it is continuing darkness
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47: 5:46am On Sep 09, 2024
gohf:
wait o why ain't the spirit blood and water also a trinity god upon the earth
wait o why don't you tell me, that is if i was interested, which i'm not
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47:
gohf:
This is what John wrote

1John.5.7 - For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.


Where did we find trinity in the bible or that there are 3gods

Why is this issue seemly forced, can't they be the three witnesses must they be three God's?
1john 5:7, it doesn't appear the kjv verse is accurate

NAS 1Jn 5:6  This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and with the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. 
NAS 1Jn 5:7  For there are three that testify: 
NAS 1Jn 5:8  the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Not God by johnw47: 7:42am On Sep 08, 2024
Emusan:
Instead, you started your kangaroo post by jumping from Pilar to Post dodging the questions
micky doesn't honestly reply to much of what is said or asked,
and he even replies to many questions with a question, they big frauds
Christianity EtcRe: Part 3: JW PIMO Reconsiders Trinity Doctrine by johnw47: 7:18am On Sep 07, 2024
Janosky:
From which realm did God bring His first born Son to the earthly realm?
Answer:
From the spiritual realm where Jesus the son was first born.
MUMU WAILING Trinitarian , Psalm 90:2, did God born the mountains?
Did you see that brought forth in your own quote of Proverbs 8:25 meaning "born (1), brings forth (1), brought forth?"
The evidence you brought exposed you.
Carry your MUMU komot from this public forum.
cheesy grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool




lost and very dum fraud jw janosky

talk about mumu, and u r a false accuser as well like the devil, of course:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

where did i say the Word/Jesus, was not born of God, the opposite is what i said and showed with scriptures

there are none so dum and confused as you false jw's
it comes from habitually lying:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.




and truly dum dum, adam and eve were not literally born of God, but were made/created

u reply to posts with little understanding even of what is said, oh false jw
Christianity EtcRe: Part 3: JW PIMO Reconsiders Trinity Doctrine by johnw47: 3:16am On Sep 07, 2024
Gen 1:26  Then God said, Let Us make man in Our image,

^^ God was speaking to the Word, Who with God made all that was made, john 1:3


the Word is the only begotten of God, God bought the Word forth from Himself (the Word Who became Jesus is personified as wisdom in proverbs)
all other sons (the saved) are adopted

God bringing the Word forth from Himself is described similarly to birth:
Pro 8:25  Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills I was brought forth

bought forth
חוּל
chul or
חִיל
chil (296d); a prim. root; to whirl, dance, writhe: — anguish (6), becomes weak waiting (1), birth to you in pain (1), born (1), brings forth (1), brought forth (4), burst (1), calve (1), calving (1), danced (1), fall (1), gave you birth (1), gave birth (2), giving birth (1), labor (1), quaked (1), shakes (2), swirl down (1), take part (1), travailed (4), tremble (5), trembled (1), turned (1), wait (1), wait patiently (1), waited (2), whirl (1), whirling (1), wounded (2), wounds (1), writhe (2), writhe in anguish (1), writhe in pain (1), writhed (2), writhes (2), writhes in pain (1).


Janosky:
God his Father is the Source, giving life to his only begotten son, Jesus Christ John 5:26. Revelation 3:14, the first born of God and Adam/Eve the last born of God.
lost fraud jw janosky

adam and eve are not literally born of God, they are made/created
God made adam from the dust of the earth, God made eve from adam's rib

Gen_2:7  Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Gen_2:22  The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.

when the Word became Man, again He was literally and miraculously born of God
this time in the flesh, the only begotten Son of God:

Joh 1:14  And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

the Word; born of God - Spirit
Jesus; born of God - Flesh
Christianity EtcRe: Part 2: JW PIMO Reconsiders The Trinity Doctrine by johnw47: 3:13am On Sep 07, 2024
Janosky:
Oga,When did it become a crime to ask pertinent questions?
Whenever their Trinitarian delusion is exposed & debunked with scriptural evidence, Insults and personal attacks is the trade mark of Achorladey and his 3 deities devotees.
lost fraud jw janosky

of course u r forever unable to stop lying and blaspheming, calling the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible;
3 deities which means 3 gods

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Christianity EtcRe: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 10:35pm On Sep 05, 2024
Michael547:
Nice thread
MaxInDHouse: Great thread!
^^ repetitive obsessive compulsion < multiple occurrences

lost false jw micky and lost false jw mad max

repeating the truth as Christians do is good
but being compelled to repeating the same obsessions over and over again as you false jw's do is mental disease, and you false jw's are full of repetitive obsessive compulsion and lies in many threads, of course

your madness is also known as:
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

OCD is mental disease
Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 9:22am On Sep 05, 2024
achorladey:
A state he used is very own brains and typing fingers to draw and carve out for himself
of course
Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 9:11am On Sep 05, 2024
achorladey:
Lies and manipulations of the content and context of the scripture as usual cheesy
look at what you have reduced insaneo to smiley

MaxInDHouse: Sin against the spirit of God!
MaxInDHouse: The restoration began in the year 1914!
MaxInDHouse: Are you one of Jehovah's Witnesses? smiley
Christianity EtcRe: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 8:52am On Sep 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The restoration began in the year 1914!
lost false jw mad max

just more of your much repeated obsessive compulsions
which is mental disease

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 8:50am On Sep 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Are you one of Jehovah's Witnesses? smiley
lost false jw mad max

you a habitual liar, and paranoid, and blasphemer of the Holy Spirit, is not a Jehovah's witness
but is a false jw

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Christianity EtcRe: JW 003 What Is Unforgivable Sin? by johnw47: 8:44am On Sep 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Sin against the spirit of God!
lost false jw mad max

God is a Spirit
a Christian say's; Spirit of God

false jw say; spirit of God, of course

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

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