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 Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 3:11am On Jul 15, 2024 |
Janosky: Janosky: Janosky: Your 3 deities mentors Janosky:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw janosky until your last breath you will be blaspheming the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. Mat 12:32 And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming. Rev_20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 3:06am On Jul 15, 2024 |
Janosky:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw janosky you gods people are as insane as can be, aren't you folks that is just from one short post of janonsense 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Jesus by johnw47: 2:40am On Jul 15, 2024 |
Janosky:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw janosky very dum one, you still don't know that Christianity and Christendom means the same your leaders teach confusion and lies, and you swallow it up, of course Christendom 1. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. 2. an obsolete word for Christianity. Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 2:24am On Jul 15, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max yeah sure, lying, paranoia, blasphemy, etc. is Jesus way of order forever false jw's: Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Mat 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 2:16am On Jul 15, 2024 |
Emusan:apparently he doesn't know. he started this thread: "Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses What Is The Difference? " and by his own mouth the diffrence is that so called Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians unless he has change his mind again, which they often do 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 11:28pm On Jul 13, 2024 |
you will know them by their fruits: lying, paranoia, blasphemy, etc. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 11:06pm On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Meet Deeper Life First Female National Pastor (video) by johnw47: 10:34am On Jul 12, 2024*. Modified: 11:02am On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:puffed up and egotistical lost false jw mad max like archorladey said: achorladey: You constantly seek your self glorificationfalse jw, you are just like the devil, challenging everyone your puffed up/prideful devil, who is just like you, thought he could even challenge Jehovah A delusion of grandeur is the false belief in one's own superiority, greatness, or intelligence. People experiencing delusions of grandeur do not just have high self-esteem; instead, they believe in their own greatness and importance even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. everything about you so called jw's is false by the way, your delusions of grandeur is mental disease you don't have to ask people for a challenge, just challenge away we will certainly show up some of your lies and madness 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 9:55am On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:MaxInDHouse: I just love carrying misinformed churchgoers all over the forum with my posts since their lives evolves around whatever is coming from Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 5:13-16lost false jw mad max |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 4:50am On Jul 12, 2024*. Modified: 6:16am On Jul 12, 2024 |
carm dot org Those Alive in 1914 In spite of all this clarity and alleged certainty, the date of Jesus’ “invisible return” was eventually changed to 1914 (the date of Russell’s original prediction for the final judgment). As to the generation, the Watchtower literature explained: “Some persons living A.D. 1914 when the series of foretold events began will also be living when the series ends with Armageddon. All the events will come within the span of one generation,” (Watchtower, Sept 1, 1952) a generation is about 20 to 30 years, a person's life is average 70 to 80 years < whatever way you take it, so called Jehovah's witnesses are way out yet again, of course to continue |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 4:41am On Jul 12, 2024 |
lost false jw mad max your ridiculous pics. match your ridiculous text 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints [color=#FFFFFF]MaxinDHouse[/color] 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 4:29am On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Job_15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at Pro_10:10 He who winks the eye causes trouble, Pro_16:30 He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things; false jw mad max your most every post are lies, aren't they oh lost one: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 4:24am On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Job_15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at Pro_10:10 He who winks the eye causes trouble, Pro_16:30 He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things; lost false jw mad max i never claim to be knowledgeable, but you cannot ever stop lying, can you: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. i have told you many times oh dum and confused one that what i do here is to occasionally show up a few of false jw's very many lies: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 4:15am On Jul 12, 2024*. Modified: 4:36am On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw mad max of course most of your posts are lies: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 4:00am On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max of course you can never stop lying: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 2 lies 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 3:01am On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max i have witnessed your exemplary ones; i have witnessed them coveting another's house saying; i will have that house after armageddon, i have witnessed them saying; don't talk about Jesus, He is no one, i have winessed them saying multiple user accounts at nairaland are all the same person, i have even witnessed them blaspheme the Holy Spirit, making Him to be a liar, etc. you fraud jw's are blinded: 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them you habitual puffed up liars think you know the Truth < delusion/mental disease 4 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 12:15am On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Lost false jw mad max @bold, truly oh blinded one, you who lie and blaspheme, and who is paranoid and puffed up etc. has not been set free 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 12:08am On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 12:03am On Jul 12, 2024 |
carm dot org The Watchtower and the 1914 Generation Since their earliest years, Jehovah’s Witnesses have believed that the end must come within one generation of a supposed invisible return of Christ. According to Watchtower literature today, Jesus is said to have taken his throne as king in the heavens in the year 1914. This is the invisible return. They believe that Matthew 24:34 teaches that the final judgment must occur within a generation of that date. This teaching has proven problematic as 1914 is now over a hundred years past, leading to reinterpretations to try to preserve this failed prediction. The 1874 Generation Many Jehovah’s Witnesses are unaware that their founder’s original teaching was that Jesus’ invisible return was in 1874 rather than 1914. The founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Charles Taze Russell, taught that Jesus’ return began in 1874 (though he did not fully ascend to the throne until 1878) and that the day of God’s wrath would be complete in 1914 or 1915. He thus explains that the time between the invisible return of Christ and the end of God’s judgment of the world would be well within one generation.1 In spite of the fact that this failed to transpire, Watchtower literature continued to hold to the 1874 return of Christ through the 1920’s. One publication, for example, plainly stated: “Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874,” (Watchtower Jan 1, 1924 p.5) Thus for some time, the Jehovah’s Witnesses taught that the end must come before the generation of 1874 passed away. to continue 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 11:24pm On Jul 11, 2024*. Modified: 12:06am On Jul 12, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool a senseless man has no knowledge, nor does a stupid man understand 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 1:43pm On Jul 11, 2024 |
Studies in the Scriptures - Editions after 1914 Editions of Studies in the Scriptures written prior to 1914 were very specific about what would happen prior to and during 1914. These journals continued to be used after 1914. To overcome the obviously erroneous predictions, in 1915 they were reissued with amendments. For example, prior to 1914, editions of Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come stated on p.228 that the resurrection would occur before 1914. From the 1915 edition onwards, this was changed to state that the resurrection was to occur soon after 1914. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 1:43pm On Jul 11, 2024 |
Pro 14:5 A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 11:28am On Jul 11, 2024 |
Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense, 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:25am On Jul 11, 2024 |
Pro_26:11 Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 8:31am On Jul 11, 2024 |
The Time is At Hand - 7 (Unfulfilled) Expectations The Time Is at Hand (1889) pages 76 to 78 claimed seven things would happen in 1914. Not one of these eventuated. The following statements are extracted from that list; 1. "the disintegration of the rule of imperfect men. Firstly, That at that date the Kingdom of God, for which our Lord taught us to pray, saying, "Thy Kingdom come," will begin to assume control, and that it will then shortly be "set up," or firmly established, in the earth, on the ruins of present institutions." 2. He whose right it is thus to take the dominion will then be present as earth's new Ruler; and not only so, but it will also prove that he will be present for a considerable period before that date; 3. the last member of the divinely recognized Church of Christ, the "royal priesthood," "the body of Christ," will beglorified with the Head; 4. Jerusalem shall no longer be trodden down 5. Israel's blindness will begin to be turned away 6. the great "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation," will reach its culmination in a world-wide reign of anarchy 7. It will prove that before that date God's Kingdom, organized in power, will be in the earth and then smite and crush the Gentile image (Dan. 2:34)-and fully consume the power of these kings." Studies In the Scriptures Series II - The Time Is at Hand (1889) pp.76-78 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 12:32am On Jul 11, 2024 |
according to so called Jehovah's witnesses; in 1914 wrath will have passed, and all the holy ones from john the baptist back to abel will be resurrected Earthly Resurrection to occur "And yet "Jerusalem must be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled;" hence, trodden down until A. D. 1914, when the day of wrath will be passed, and the resurrection and return of the "whole house of Israel" due." Three Worlds and The Harvest of This World (1877) pp.165-166 "The beginning of the earthly phase of the Kingdom in the end of A.D. 1914 will, we understand, consist wholly of the resurrected holy ones of olden time-from John the Baptizer back to Abel-"Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and all the holy prophets." Studies In the Scriptures - The Day of Vengeance p.625 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:15am On Jul 08, 2024 |
gotquestions dot org The Watchtower, therefore, has no hard textual grounds for their translation—only their own theological bias. While New World Translation defenders might succeed in showing that John 1:1 can be translated as they have done, they cannot show that it is the proper translation. Nor can they explain the fact that that the NWT does not translate the same Greek phrases elsewhere in the Gospel of John the same way. It is only the pre-conceived heretical rejection of the deity of Christ that forces the Watchtower Society to inconsistently translate the Greek text, thus allowing their error to gain some semblance of legitimacy in the minds of those ignorant of the facts. It is only the Watchtower’s pre-conceived heretical beliefs that are behind the dishonest and inconsistent translation that is the New World Translation. The New World Translation is most definitely not a valid version of God’s Word. There are minor differences among all the major English translations of the Bible. No English translation is perfect. However, while other Bible translators make minor mistakes in the rendering of the Hebrew and Greek text into English, the NWT intentionally changes the rendering of the text to conform to Jehovah’s Witness theology. The New World Translation is a perversion, not a version, of the Bible. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:11am On Jul 08, 2024 |
gotquestions dot org The most well-known of all the New World Translation perversions is John 1:1. The original Greek text reads, “the Word was God.” The NWT renders it as “the word was a god.” This is not a matter of correct translation, but of reading one’s preconceived theology into the text, rather than allowing the text to speak for itself. There is no indefinite article in Greek (in English, "a" or "an"], so any use of an indefinite article in English must be added by the translator. This is grammatically acceptable, so long as it does not change the meaning of the text. There is a good reason why theos has no definite article in John 1:1 and why the New World Translation rendering is in error. There are three general rules we need to understand to see why. 1. In Greek, word order does not determine word usage like it does in English. In English, a sentence is structured according to word order: Subject - Verb - Object. Thus, "Harry called the dog" is not equivalent to "the dog called Harry." But in Greek, a word’s function is determined by the case ending found attached to the word’s root. There are two case endings for the root theo: one is -s (theos), the other is -n (theon). The -s ending normally identifies a noun as being the subject of a sentence, while the -n ending normally identifies a noun as the direct object. 2. When a noun functions as a predicate nominative (in English, a noun that follows a being verb such as "is"], its case ending must match the noun’s case that it renames, so that the reader will know which noun it is defining. Therefore, theo must take the -s ending because it is renaming logos. Therefore, John 1:1 transliterates to "kai theos en ho logos." Is theos the subject, or is logos? Both have the -s ending. The answer is found in the next rule. 3. In cases where two nouns appear, and both take the same case ending, the author will often add the definite article to the word that is the subject in order to avoid confusion. John put the definite article on logos (“the Word”) instead of on theos. So, logos is the subject, and theos is the predicate nominative. In English, this results in John 1:1 being read as "and the Word was God" (instead of "and God was the word"]. The most revealing evidence of the Watchtower’s bias is their inconsistent translation technique. Throughout the Gospel of John, the Greek word theon occurs without a definite article. The New World Translation renders none of these as “a god.” Even more inconsistent, in John 1:18, the NWT translates the same term as both "God" and "god" in the very same sentence. to continue |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:08am On Jul 08, 2024 |
gotquestions dot org Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible? The New World Translation (NWT) is defined by the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ parent organization (the Watchtower Society) as "a translation of the Holy Scriptures made directly from Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek into modern-day English by a committee of anointed witnesses of Jehovah." The NWT is the anonymous work of the “New World Bible Translation Committee.” Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the anonymity is in place so that the credit for the work will go to God. Of course, this has the added benefit of keeping the translators from any accountability for their errors and prevents real scholars from checking their academic credentials. The New World Translation is unique in one thing – it is the first intentional, systematic effort at producing a complete version of the Bible that is edited and revised for the specific purpose of agreeing with a group’s doctrine. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower Society realized that their beliefs contradicted Scripture. So, rather than conforming their beliefs to Scripture, they altered Scripture to agree with their beliefs. The “New World Bible Translation Committee” went through the Bible and changed any Scripture that did not agree with Jehovah’s Witness theology. This is clearly demonstrated by the fact that, as new editions of the New World Translation were published, additional changes were made to the biblical text. As biblical Christians continued to point out Scriptures that clearly argue for the deity of Christ (for example), the Watchtower Society would publish new editions of the New World Translation with those Scriptures changed. Here are some of the more prominent examples of intentional revisions: to continue |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 10:05am On Jul 08, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max liars and blasphemers and the paranoid and the puffed up etc. etc. are not the sheep, right a senseless man has no knowledge, nor does a stupid man understand |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 8:38am On Jul 08, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max the liars and the blasphemers and the paranoid and the puffed up etc. etc. are the goats, right a senseless man has no knowledge, nor does a stupid man understand 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: JW 008 The Year 1914 by johnw47: 8:29am On Jul 08, 2024 |
more 144,000 Resurrected to Heaven The 144,000, also known as the "body of Christ" or "the saints", were to all be in heaven by 1914, prior to the completion of Armageddon. "That the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest, since the deliverance of fleshly Israel, as we shall see, is appointed to take place at that time... Just how long before 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, we are not directly informed;..." Studies In the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come (1908 ed.) p.228 "There were also other expectations concerning 1914. Alexander H. Macmillan, who had been baptized in September 1900, later recalled: "A few of us seriously thought we were going to heaven during the first week of that October. In fact, recalling the morning that Russell announced the end of the Gentile Times, MacMillan admitted: "We were highly excited and I would not have been surprised if at that moment we had just started up, that becoming the signal to begin ascending heavenward-but of course there was nothing like that."" Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom pp.61-62 "As October 1914 approached, some of the Bible Students expected that at the end of the Gentile Times they, as spirit-anointed Christians, would receive their heavenly reward. Illustrating this is an incident that took place at a convention of the Bible Students in Saratoga Spring, New York, September 27-30, 1914. A. H.Macmillan, who had been baptized 14 years earlier, gave a discourse on Wednesday, September 30. In it he stated: " This is probably the last public address I shall ever deliver, because we shall be going home [to heaven] soon."" Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom p.62 1 Like |
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