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continue Watchtower quotes prior to 1914 Russell taught that Jesus invisible presence began in 1874 and rulership in 1878. "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear it: and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878, A.D.:" Studies in Scriptures Series - The Day of Vengeance (1897) p.621 The heavenly kingdom was shown Scripturally to begin before the end of the Gentile Times. "But the kingdom of God is to be set up before the days of the Gentile end, for "in the days of theses kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom; and it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms" (Dan. 2:44)."" Three Worlds and the Harvest of This World (Barbour & Russell, 1877) p.27 As shown at Freemasonry & Adventist Links, Russell used pyramidology to support this belief. Prior to forming the Watchtower, Russell wrote that 1914 would see the end of all governments. “… the seven times will end in A.D. 1914; when Jerusalem shall be delivered forever, and the Jew say of the Deliverer, “Lo, this is our God, we have waited for Him and He will save us.” When Gentile Governments shall have been dashed to pieces; when God shall have poured out of his fury upon the nation, and they acknowledge him, King of Kings and Lord of Lords.” Bible Examiner C. T. Russell Oct 1876 Russell originally was a follower of the teachings of Barbour, and together they co-authored works such as the 1877 book Three Worlds, and the Harvest of This World. After splitting from Barbour in June 1879, Russell began publishing the magazine Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence in July 1879. This became distinctly his own religion with the incorporation of the organization "Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society" shortly thereafter. Russell continued to publish many of the prophetic interpretations he had received from Barbour, as can be seen in what follows when comparing Three Worlds and Watchtower quotes. 1874 to 1914 were described as the greatest period of trouble in human history, the period of Armageddon itself, with the end of trouble to be in 1914. "Now, in view of recent labor troubles and threatened anarchy, our readers are writing to know if there may not be a mistake in the 1914 date. They do not see how present conditions can hold out so long under the strain. We see no reason for changing the figures - nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226 (reprints 1677) The following quotes during the lead up to 1914 show there could be no doubt as to what Watchtower followers expected. The end of the Last Days in 1914 was to initiate a number of endings and new beginnings. . 1914 - the end of the preaching work . 1914 - the end of all religion . 1914 - the wholesale destruction of all government . 1914 - the end of the Great Tribulation . 1914 - the end of Armageddon . 1914 - Russell and his followers to be raised to heaven . 1914 - Jesus' Kingdom established as paradise on earth . 1914 - commencement of the earthly resurrection to be continued |
MaxInDHouse:lost false Jw mad max you claim; whatever you say here is found in the publications of God's modern day servants: Jehovah's Witnesses! so post a quote where Jw's publications say this: "all Jesus anointed brothers who were sleeping in death {1Thessalonians 4:16-17} they were all taken to heaven in the year 1914" |
MaxinDHouse: next was to take all his anointed brothers who were sleeping in death to heaven {1Thessalonians 4:16-17} they were all taken to heaven in the year 1914if that happened false jw's publications would be full of it MaxinDHouse: So today there is no place where people talk about religions that they will not tremble when the name of this group is mentioned.anyone know of someone trembling when the name of mad max group is mentioned, ![]() such delusion, such mental disease |
continue The 1914 doctrine has changed by necessity, and continued to change in the twenty first century, as it has been falsified by the progression of history. It has progressed from: The last days started in 1799, ending in 1914. The last days started in 1914, ending within a single lifetime/generation of those born prior to 1914. The last days started in 1914, with an unspecified ending, after a period of an "overlapping generation." The ability of the Watchtower to accurately foretell the meaning of 1914 is a great source of faith for Jehovah's Witnesses, unaware of what Watchtower said prior to 1914. Nothing Russell said about 1914 came to pass. For Russell and early Watchtower followers, the 2nd of October 1914 was expected to be the the conclusion of this system of things. “Quite a few delegates stayed at Bethel, and, of course, members of the headquarters staff were present at the breakfast table on Friday morning, October 2. Everyone was seated when Brother Russell entered. As usual, he said cheerily, “Good morning, all.” But this particular morning was different. Instead of proceeding promptly to his seat, he clapped his hands and joyfully announced: “The Gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day.” “How we clapped our hands!” exclaims Cora Merrill. Brother Macmillan admitted: “We were highly excited and I would not have been surprised if at that moment we had just started up, that becoming the signal to begin ascending heavenward—but of course there was nothing like that, really.” Sister Merrill adds: “After a brief pause he [Russell] said: ‘Anyone disappointed? I’m not. Everything is moving right on schedule!’ Again we clapped our hands.”” Yearbook 1975 pp.72,73 The expectation was 1914 would see the final end of worldly kingdoms, replaced by God's Kingdom fully established on earth. "In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99 From the 1911 edition forward, this quote gave an additional year for these events to be fully accomplished, extending to A.D.1915. The Time is at Hand (1889 ed.) p.99 The Time is at Hand (1911 ed.) p.99 .. (images below) to be continued
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MaxInDHouse:no, you don't lost false jw mad max all know you are mad by the things you say and imply one of your latest implications; "gods are infallible" you not only mad, you dum as they come, and the nonsense you speak shows you are also a fool: Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense, |
MaxInDHouse:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool lost false jw mad max see how you reply to truth with lies lies lies, you just like satan, aren't you: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max you think gods are infallible, how dum only The God is infallible: a senseless man has no knowledge, |
oteneaaron:their org. and their fellow false jw's are their everything |
continued Governing Body member Samuel Herd makes the statement in Watchtower's 2016 documentary The Kingdom 100 Years and Counting; "At the kingdom's birth in 1914, the Bible Students were not exactly sure what was going to happen, but they knew it would be a pivotal year." This is a fabrication, as Watchtower was dogmatic as to exactly what was going to occur in 1914. Expectations for 1914 were forcefully presented as fact, as shown in the following quotes. "the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest" Thy Kingdom Come (1911 ed.) p.228 "the Day of Vengeance ... will end in October, 1914" The Day of Vengeance p.547 "the great "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation," will reach its culmination" The Time Is at Hand (1889 ed.) page 77 - page 78 "we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun" The Time Is At Hand (1889 ed.) p.101 "we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D.1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99 "October, 1914, will witness the full end of Babylon" Watch Tower 1911 Jun 15 p.190 (reprints p.4842) "Christendom, will have passed away, as already shown in prophecy." Thy Kingdom Come (1891 ed.) p.153 The early followers were as convinced they knew what was going to happen in 1914 as current followers are convinced the Great Tribulation and Armageddon will come at any moment, resulting in the destruction of all worldly people. This is because the same manipulative terminology used prior to 1914 is still used in Watchtower publications to this day. 1914 is the pivotal date for the existence of Jehovah's Witnesses, currently explained as the date: the Gentile times ended Jesus started ruling in heaven the Last Days began 1914 is the basis for the interpretation of the majority of other Bible prophecies. Most importantly, this was the time during which Jesus is said to have come to inspect and cleanse the Watchtower Society, resulting in Jesus choosing it in 1919 to be the only organization he works though in our time, and the only means of salvation. The current understanding is significantly different to the original teachings. Prior to 1914, the Watchtower believed: The Last Days began 1799 Jesus Parousia started 1874 Jesus started ruling in heaven in 1878 The Gentile Times would end in 1914, resulting in the: end of Armageddon fall of false religion end of all earthly governments heavenly and earthly resurrections paradise on earth to be continued |
Aemmyjah: Aemmyjah: Pls don't tag me again Aemmyjah: the thread stupidoh duh lost stupid false jw aemmy, if you stop coming to this stupid thread of stupid mad max's about Jesus ruling since 1914, which you call stupid then we will stop tagging you in this stupid thread of stupid mad max's Aemmyjah: My own threads are equally stupid threadsyes we know stupid aemmy, your stupid threads are as stupid as mad max's stupid thread |
Janosky:lost fraud jw janosky u loving always to blaspheme the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible, calling Them 3 deities which is 3 gods: Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. Mat 12:32 And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming. Rev_20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire |
Aemmyjah:lost false jw aemmy your jehovah doesn't see, i believe it he also isn't all knowing or Almighty according to mad max Aemmyjah: Worst you can do is act like hyenas, peddling lies and cracking potsquote some of my lies oh false accuser like the devil: Rev_12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. |
Aemmyjah:lost false jw aemmy 1. mad max said while bragging about his days in military intelligence that he can defeat six fully armed combatants single handed 2. he said for all here to read; that his wife loves to play with his penis false jw mad max is certifiably mad but of course you frauds support each other in your lies and your paranoia etc. and even in your blaspheming the Holy Spirit when i say you guys are lost i of course am serious: Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Mat 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. false jw mad max also teaches that Jehovah isn't all knowing, he teaches that Jehovah isn't Almighty, and he teaches that Jesus is a deceiver you false jw aemmy of course support him and say he is not mad, Christians can see that he is much more than just mad |
Aemmyjah:lost false jw aemmy of course you fakes can never stop lying: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. in showing up the lies of you frauds, this below will further help to build others faith on nairaland: from jwfacts dot com 1914 : Failed Watchtower Prophecy One of the most misleading statements in Watchtower publications is that they accurately foretold 1914 to be the “start” of the conclusion of this system of things. Rather, Watchtower falsely predicted 1914 to be the “end” of the system of things, the conclusion of Armageddon and the start of the earthly paradise. It is important to know what Watchtower preached would happen in the years leading up to and including 1914, and compare this with what it now claims was said. What Watchtower said prior to 1914 "The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239 "But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226 What Watchtower claims it said prior to 1914 "The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5 "Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8 The contradictory statements above help identify two critical facts: 1. Watchtower falsely predicted this system would end in 1914 2. Watchtower is not entirely honest about its history to be continued |
MaxInDHouse:false jw mad max u of course r always the liar, no one at these forums is on the low intelligence level as you lost ones: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. what you people know is sewer mouth name calling and wrongly using God's word |
Aemmyjah:lost false jw aemmy your crying post most everyone but you deluded false jw's yourself, know without a doubt that you are not God's people Mat_23:15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw mad max you false jw's are so dym, calling Christians; satanist and bloody fool etc. etc. etc. is not being peaceful you false jw's are deluded and lie all over the place: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
Aemmyjah:really, do you challenge be to prove it Aemmyjah: He's my brotherwe are the ones who have shown 607bce and 1914ce to be wrong of course you frauds cannot admit it Aemmyjah: If I say the House I live is in stupid, is it the builder that is stupid or how people behave?oh duh dum dum, if you say the house you live in is stupid, i say you are mad, a house can only be a house if you say nl is stupid a mad man like you would be blaming Christians oh duh dum dum, fool is your surname |
Aemmyjah:oh duh very dum one, it's better than yours which is fool lost false jw aemmy i see you are still posting in mad max's what you call stupid thread |
MaxInDHouse:cannot stop lying lost false jw mad max there is no one at these forums more puffed up that you: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. MaxInDHouse: i'm not like you who jumped into accusing someone falsely simply because he also accused you falselyfalse jw you jump into falsely accusing people even when they never accused you MaxInDHouse: someone called me "General Maximus" another lady called me her "Sugar Daddy"you mean you are far far more puffed up than him, oh general mussolini: Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Pro_11:20 The perverse in heart are an abomination to the LORD Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense, delusions of grandeur is mental disease |
MaxInDHouse:very dum lost false jw mad max Christendom is Christianity, i'm glad you false jw's know you are not part of it. Christendom 1. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. 2. an obsolete word for Christianity. |
MaxInDHouse:WARS, FOOD SHORTAGES, PESTILENCES and EARTHQUAKES all began in the year 1914 just how deluded are these lost false jw's |
MaxInDHouse:ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool false jw mad max Jesus was talking to His apostles in that verse, you false jw's think that the Holy Spirit is just God's power and not a person, note; they will receive power from the Holy Spirit, not; they will receive power from the power oh lost one |
false jw's now liken themselves to bereans bereans studied God's word, they didn't change it to suit false doctrines |
MaxInDHouse:lost false jw old light that Jesus gave you, such as dates that never eventuated, so He then corrected you with new light, new dates that also didn't eventuate you are full of it mad max: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. |
Aemmyjah:especially in this stupid mad max thread where he said; Jesus began ruling in heaven in 1914 .... yeah i agree |
Aemmyjah:you agree with Christians that this mad max's thread titled: "The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven" is a stupid thread, .... good |
^^ a big and happy family of peace loving worshipers who never stop calling Christians names, they are as tormented as the devil |
^^ study the bible with sewer mouthed false Jw's, who call Christians; "satanists, bloody idiots" etc.etc. |
MaxInDHouse:cannot ever stop lying, false jw mad max assuredly i am not angry at God's people: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. MaxInDHouse:you say i am angry with false jw's and quote the above, so you admit you so called Jw's are antichristsjohnw47: MaxInDHouse: So whether you like it or not JWs are doing the will of God unless you present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!Job_15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at Pro_10:10 He who winks the eye causes trouble, Pro_16:30 He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things; false jw, i'm not interested in presenting a group (people) who cannot save i'm interested in the real Saviour, the lord Jesus Christ you on the other hand believe your group saved you, oh very dum lost one |
MaxInDHouse:Job_15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at Pro_10:10 He who winks the eye causes trouble, Pro_16:30 He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things; lost false jw mad max i'm glad i'm not a simpleton who believes he is saved by knowing an organisation, even an organisation that you think is doing God's will Christians are saved by God's grace, through having faith, organisation and people cannot save, only God and Christ can save Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; even our faith is from God, for Christians it's all about God and Christ, for false jw's it's all about their idols/other false jw's, and their org. |
continue The Overlapping Anointed Generation In the last several years, the Watchtower literature has been changing their interpretation yet again. In 2010, they began explaining: “We do well to keep in mind several things about the word “generation”: It usually refers to people of varying ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period; it is not excessively long; and it has an end. (Ex 1:6) How, then, are we to understand Jesus’ words about “this generation”? He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation. That generation had a beginning, and it surely will have an end. The fulfilling of various features of the sign clearly indicate that the tribulation must be near,” (Watchtower, April 15 2010) In 2014 they repeated all of this, and went on to further explain: “Anyone who was anointed after the death of the last of the anointed ones in the first group—that is, after those who witnessed the “beginning of pangs of distress” in 1914—would not be part of “this generation.”—Matt. 24:8,” (God’s Kingdom Rules, 2014, pg 12) and “The anointed ones who are still alive and part of “this generation” are getting on in years; yet, they will not all die off before the great tribulation begins. Therefore, we can conclude that very soon indeed God’s Kingdom will come and exercise its rule over the earth! How thrilling it will be to witness the fulfillment of the prayer that Jesus taught us: “Let your Kingdom come”!” (God’s Kingdom Rules, 2014, pg 12) In other words, “this generation” is now defined as two groups of people. The first is anyone who was already a part of the Jehovah’s Witness “anointed class”3 in 1914. The second group is anyone who became a member of the “anointed class” during the lifetime of the first group. The literature implies that the first group has already died and that the second group is “getting on in years.” What year did the last of the first group die? Just how old is meant by “getting on in years?” The Watchtower leaves all of this far more ambiguous than they used to. Still, this explanation will likely see some further tweaking in the next few decades to allow for an even longer understanding of what it means to be a “generation.” Conclusion: The 1914 Doctrine is Demonstrably False While it’s impossible to read the motives of another man’s heart, these changes at least appear rather telling. If the Watchtower writers really believed their own teachings, you would expect them to see that the 1914 generation was nearly over and to be doubling down with urgency as the end must be upon us any day now. Instead, you see the convenient rewriting of the teachings to buy time while straining the definition of words beyond reason. It seems the leaders of the Jehovah’s Witnesses wish to maintain just enough urgency to keep their people engaged, but that they doubt their own teachings too much to let them stand in the twilight years of their once firm prediction. The Watchtower has a long history of false prophecies due to their poor system of interpreting the Bible. This is another example where a single set of biblical misunderstandings has produced a series of failed predictions and is in the process of producing more before our very eyes. The world did not end in 1914. It did not end before the generation of 1874 passed away. It did not end before the close of the twentieth century. The Watchtower writers have already hedged their bets that they will fail again as we approach the tragic passing away of the last of those who lived to see the year 1914. These predictions have failed, and continue to fail, because the governing body of the Jehovah’s Witnesses is not God’s organization as they falsely claim to be, and they cannot interpret the Bible properly. The whole Jehovah’s Witness system has shown itself to be a lie. |
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