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The Watchtower and the 1914 Generation


Since their earliest years, Jehovah’s Witnesses have believed that the end must come within one generation of a supposed invisible return of Christ. According to Watchtower literature today, Jesus is said to have taken his throne as king in the heavens in the year 1914. This is the invisible return. They believe that Matthew 24:34 teaches that the final judgment must occur within a generation of that date. This teaching has proven problematic as 1914 is now over a hundred years past, leading to reinterpretations to try to preserve this failed prediction.

The 1874 Generation
Many Jehovah’s Witnesses are unaware that their founder’s original teaching was that Jesus’ invisible return was in 1874 rather than 1914. The founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Charles Taze Russell, taught that Jesus’ return began in 1874 (though he did not fully ascend to the throne until 1878) and that the day of God’s wrath would be complete in 1914 or 1915. He thus explains that the time between the invisible return of Christ and the end of God’s judgment of the world would be well within one generation.1 In spite of the fact that this failed to transpire, Watchtower literature continued to hold to the 1874 return of Christ through the 1920’s. One publication, for example, plainly stated:

“Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874,” (Watchtower Jan 1, 1924 p.5)

Thus for some time, the Jehovah’s Witnesses taught that the end must come before the generation of 1874 passed away.

Those Alive in 1914
In spite of all this clarity and alleged certainty, the date of Jesus’ “invisible return” was eventually changed to 1914 (the date of Russell’s original prediction for the final judgment). As to the generation, the Watchtower literature explained:

“Some persons living A.D. 1914 when the series of foretold events began will also be living when the series ends with Armageddon. All the events will come within the span of one generation,” (Watchtower, Sept 1, 1952)

The literature was clear that the “battle of the day of Jehovah” would come “shortly, within our twentieth century.”2 They went on saying for decades things like:

“In 1914, he went into action as ruling king. Satan and his demons were promptly hurled out of heaven, this act cleansing the seat of government. (Revelation 12:7-12) The Present world system had entered its final days. The countdown that had proceeded for some six millenniums now nears its zero hour. So close is it that people who were alive in 1914, and who are now well along in years, will not pass off the scene before the thrilling events marking the vindication of Jehovah’s sovereignty come to pass – Mark 13:30,” (Survival into a New Earth, 1984, Pg 185)

“It was to our generation that Jesus referred when he added the key thought: ‘this generation will by no means pass away until all things occur.’ (Matt. 25:34) The generation that saw the beginning of woes in 1914 would also see the end of Satan and his entire wicked system of things. Some who were alive then would still be alive when ‘the end’ comes,” (Awake!, 1966, pg 18)

The literature even seemed to imply that they did not merely mean just anyone born by 1914, but specifically those who were old enough to actually be witnesses of the things that occurred that year:

“Some who saw the events of 1914 will also see the complete destruction of this present wicked world,” (Studies in the Scriptures, 1989, pg 200)

We have left the twentieth century behind. We are over a century passed 1914. The Watchtower expectation remains unfulfilled. While there are still a small number of people left who were alive in 1914, perhaps even a few who were old enough to qualify as eyewitnesses, the Watchtower has already begun preparing for the inevitable failure of this prediction by changing the rules again on what they once proclaimed to be so certain.

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MaxInDHouse:
you're a BLOODY LIAR!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


these sewer mouths think they are God's people, how deluded and dum can they be

just a little on false prophets/so called Jehovah's witnesses beliefs on end times and Jesus second coming etc.


some info from gotquestions dot com

1. The Last days began 1799 (The Harp of God, 1928 ed., p. 235–36, 239).

2. Jesus started being present with His people in 1874, and He started ruling in heaven in 1878 (ibid., p. 236, 239–40).

3. The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).



they (false jw's) say, Jesus cast Satan and his demons out of heaven to the vicinity of Earth, and this is what started World War I. It is worth noting that, although Jesus supposedly became King in heaven in October 1914, the First World War had already been going for some three months


As late as 1961, Jehovah’s Witnesses believed that the generation alive in 1914 would be “the generation alive that will not pass away till there is fulfilled that ‘great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again’” (Watchtower, April 15, 1961, p. 236)

^^ the generation alive in 1914 if we count only the new born babies would be 110 years old now, the peope alive in 1914
that were 25 years of age, wold be 135 years old now, and the great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning hasn't even started yet.

they such false prophets

achorladey:
I told you several times. He cannot make a point without lying and claiming lies on behalf of others.

Wumiwumi100 showed evidence he is an elder and still active. He cannot even show us evidence that indeed he is an elder and yet lie and claim nonsense on behalf of others to make a point.

The same MaxInDHouse said I was cursed by Brocab years ago while still a member and now that I am no longer a member of that religious organization yet insisting we are still members.


They didn't didn't even believe the last day began in 1914 that they are now saying now. They believe that 1914 God is coming to pack everything up and take over everything. When what they predicted and prophesied didn't happen they start another round of mental gymnastics about setting dates on Christ return

they are really as dum as they come, so dum they don't even know it

achorladey:
The babble talk of new light, old light, light getting brighter, new truth, old truth.

yes they believe anything their masters tell them

achorladey:
The liar and manipulator sabi parrot lies and manipulations packed into his brains....

Colossians 1:13 He rescued us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his beloved Son, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins.

The above scripture happened in 1914 .

They can even manipulate that Bible verse by saying that they were in darkness under babylon the great until 1919 when they were rescued and inspected by Jesus Christ. People that manipulate the parable of the talents to fit lies.

they are still in darkness under babylon the great, we can easily tell that by all their confused babble talk

achorladey:
Definitely. He was fearful enough to lament that we should be banned and blocked from Nairaland in order for him to have free and unfettered access to peddle lies and manipulations packed into his madness and insanities peddling brains

cowards are not God's people, they are deluded, and much much more, as we know

johnw47: 1. show that i'm a satanist
2. show where i have been corrupting SeniorMan715 and Questionnaires minds with gibberish

lost false jw mad max

of course you are a habitual liar:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

lost false jw mad max

of course you habitually run away from repenting of your lies:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

false jw mad max

sewer mouth, your recent posts to me in just a short period of time
are just repeated lies and dumness, of course:

MaxinDHouse: sleep gateman
you will resume duty in the evening again

Go home and sleep gateman

Satanists like you

lost false jw, Jesus said to your lying forefathers the pharisees:

"you are of your father the devil"
"he does not stand in the truth"
"there is no truth in him"
"whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature"
"he is a liar and the father of lies"

false jw's you are just like your forefathers the pharisees and the devil, as you well know:
Joh 8:44  You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Blockhead, am i the one talking about myself or others?

like i said confused and puffed up lost false jw mad max

u r of course forever running away from repenting of your lies, u r forever the coward:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
Go and sleep gateman you will resume duty in the evening again o, don't say Max caused your misfortune when you're sacked for sleeping on duty o!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



false jw mad max

a son of the devil can never stop lying and repeating your lies, and you know it, don't you oh lost one;

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Go home and sleep gateman!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



false jw mad max

a son of the devil can never stop lying and repeating his lies, and you know it, don't you oh lost one;

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and sleep gateman you will resume duty in the evening again o, don't say Max caused your misfortune when you're sacked for sleeping on duty o!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



false jw mad max

a son of the devil can never stop lying, and you know it, don't you oh lost one;

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Now who is of the devil?
This is what i typed below:
[1] John the baptist: is the only prophet who prophesied about the Christ.
[2] Saw him.
[3] Baptized him.
[4] Heard God's own words in connection with the Christ, and
[5] Prepared the way for the Christ by telling his own disciples to go and join the ministry of Christ!
All other prophets only prophesied about Jesus they never had a one on one encounter with him.
Do you get it now, you blockhead?

lost false jw mad max

the devil is the father of you liars, you know that

i get it from the beginning, you said; " John the baptist: is the only prophet who prophesied about the Christ."

you were wrong oh know nothing

Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense,

MaxInDHouse:
Why are you crying up and down calling Jesus your lord?
Is it not what you heard others saying?
Ọ̀DẸ̀, at the mouth of two or three witnesses a matter is justified. This people don't know each other yet after reasoning with Maximus they said what is paining you.
Blockhead!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

no, when i call Jesus Lord it is from the heart
not because i hear others saying it, oh never ending dum one

Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense,

MaxInDHouse:
Questionnaire:
SeniorMan:
CJStarz:
Do you still remember Rozz?
All these people i've reasoned with them from God's word the Bible now they have a change of heart about Jehovah's Witnesses.
Now it's not my own words you're contending but words from many WITNESSES! Hebrews 10:28
Shame on you blockhead!

very confused lost false jw mad max

like i said again and again, you keep asking for people to do bible study with you and no one does
some people pleasers have as i said, oh dum one

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
Am i the one who said it?
Shame on you blockhead!

lost false jw mad max

as i said most dum one, a people pleaser praises you as being smart and you lap it up
we know from your posts that you are as dum as they come, don't we oh fraud

Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense,

MaxInDHouse:
Chat with them and prove that you're not just another idiot spewing gibberish all over the forum with your madness.
They have listened to what i have to say about God and Jesus now they both have high regard for me.
Imagine Questionnaire calling me "KING" and "WISER ONE" simple because i discussed with him:
After comparing me with people like you this man realized that Christianity isn't what you people are practicing now he wants to know the truth about Christianity.
That's what it means to be a real Christian not just going about spewing gibberish claiming you believe in Jesus that you can't present any practical application of what he taught!

Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;

johnw47: lost false jw

so some people like you ,
mad max you keep asking people to study the bible with you and no one does

false jw, u cannot ever stop lying and accusing like the devil,
1. show that i'm a satanist
2. show where i have been corrupting SeniorMan715 and Questionnaires minds with gibberish

liar like the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

accuser like the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

puffed up and lost false jw mad max

u r of course forever running away from repenting of your lies, u r forever the coward:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:
This is where you're deceiving yourself!
Now try to visualize millions of Jews in the first century who have heard John the baptist and believed what he said about the Christ but later found out that the so called Christ isn't going to fulfill what John prophesied about just as John himself who was sent to prepare the way, heard God's voice in connection with Jesus' baptism, saw the Holy Spirit like a dove landing on Jesus but started doubting Jesus as the expected Messiah do you think millions who never saw or heard what John experienced will still continue to believe Jesus?
What the JWs believe is that Jesus will return in the year 1914 bodily to judge the world once he is enthroned in heaven but instead the first thing Jesus did was to sack Satan and all demons from heaven then he visited the earth as a mighty Spirit King to restructure his group for the final work of gathering the obedient ones throughout the earth.
So if you're not condemning John the baptist and Jesus' first century Jewish disciples for having a wrong expectation despite seeing Jesus face to face your condemnation of JWs is biased my guy they actually got something right which is the presence of a mighty Spirit King who did something in heaven in the year 1914!

lost false jw mad max

just a lot of made up babble, with no scriptural proof

Jesus was the actual Christ not a so called Christ, oh so called Jehovah's witness

MaxInDHouse:
.

puffed up false jw

so some people pleaser praises you as being smart, by your posts we know you are dum as can be

Isa_32:6  For a fool speaks nonsense,

MaxInDHouse:
You're wrong!
Here are people who were once active on this forum but after they found the true religion they are no longer active again meaning they are now studying with Jehovah's Witnesses:
Now they're avoiding Satanists like you who has been corrupting their minds with gibberish!

lost false jw

so some people like you ,
mad max you keep asking people to study the bible with you and no one does

false jw, u cannot ever stop lying and accusing like the devil,
1. show that i'm a satanist
2. show where i have been corrupting SeniorMan715 and Questionnaires minds with gibberish

liar like the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

accuser like the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

MaxInDHouse:
The flood wasn't because of corruption rather it's because of the giants descendants of demons who are turning the planet into a place where violence is the order of the day.
So when God told Noah to build an ark it was to save honest hearted and sincere humans from the troubles caused by those giants.
That's not God's timing to end badness it will end after the Christ has come to gather all the faithful and obedient humans so as to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, it's when this has been done that God will send down angels to destroy all evildoers!

oh duh false jw

you say the flood wasn't because of corruption, and then you say;
violence was the order of the day

you say; God told Noah to build an ark it was to save honest hearted and sincere humans,
and yet only one human family was saved, just 8 people,
the ark was built to save a few people, and very many animals:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
Study the Bible with God's people:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION!

lost false jw mad max

no one wants to study the Bible with you, and why would they,
people who want to study the Bible want the truth of the Bible,
not the so called Jehovah's witnesses perversion of the Bible

MaxInDHouse:
John is greatest of all those born of women before his time because he is the only prophet who prophesied about the Christ,

just yet another of so called Jehovah's witnesses very many lies:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

idiot

MaxInDHouse:
What makes you think they are false?

oh duh lost false jw mad max

apart from your false prophecies, you false jw's are false because
you lie like hell, you blaspheme even the Holy Spirit, you are paranoid
saying many users are all the same person, you change God's word to suit
your false doctrines, you are puffed up etc. etc. etc.
you are many things that God's people are not

Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.

MaxInDHouse:
You're still deceiving yourself!
To millions of Jehovah's Witnesses 1914 is the year Jesus began ruling in heaven so if they're not sure then there's no need arguing or worrying themselves instead of worshiping with the erring organization any fearless person will leave and join a better performing church.
It's madness claiming you're worshiping with pagans and satanists if you're sure that they are Satanists!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

so millions of false jw's are deluded, we know that
and you are to blinded to see it:

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

achorladey:
FxMasterz this is for you, read through and see the part highlighted

How did he know I am worshipping the same God with Jehovah's witnesses and yet antagonising them in that question? That tells you I gave a response that expose the madness and insanities peddling of his brains.

See him say I am also another moniker called falseprophet

Look at the options I provided in my questions, how did I know he said NO while my response is YES regarding worshipping same God or not

mad max is fearfully paranoid, he wouldn't say boo to you face to face, but at these anonymous
forums he is never ending accusing like the devil, and talking a lot of babble, just like the other false jw's here

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're just jumping into what you knew nothing about.

Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;


it's true, i know nothing at all about all the confused and unbiblical doctrines that you keep teaching:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're just jumping into what you knew nothing about.

dum lost false jw mad max

i know the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ hasn't happened yet

MaxInDHouse: The first century and today it's the presence of the Christ that faithful people throughout the earth were considering not the face of Jesus so it's fulfilment of prophecies that helped honest hearted and sincere individuals to know that the Christ is around in the first century not Jesus' face!

Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;


truly dum dum, Christ didn't return invisibly in 1914

Pro 14:5 .... a false witness utters lies.

MaxInDHouse:
He can't answer but wants to show what is wrong!

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

of course you can never stop lying:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

big difference between won't and can't
i don't do quizzes with satan's mob
and of course you couldn't answer your own questions except in confusion
oh lost one

MaxInDHouse:
Let me enlighten you because of interested ones following my thread.
In the first century Jesus was born and only few people saw him face to face millions of Jews back then only heard of his activities and what his disciples were doing back then that's why till today millions of Jews around the world don't believe at all that the Christ has come in fact what Jesus' disciples penned down from Matthew to Revelations is gibberish to 98% of Jews all over the world.
So how come the disciples were so sure that Jesus is the long awaited Messiah?
Well it's not only because they saw him face to face rather they were considering how prophecies were fulfilled in the first century! John 20:29
Today we aren't seeing Jesus face to face but all the things he said about his presence in power are unfolding globally and no one can deny it in fact the Jewish descendants of those who killed Jesus can't deny that something strange is happening globally today! Revelations 1:7
So Mr John we are not telling you to come and see Jesus rather we are telling everyone that what Jesus said about his presence is undergoing fulfilment since the year 1914!

most dum lost false jw mad max

things happening in the past and today are not because Jesus has returned
He hasn't, you just keep making up babble in your head, you have not proven that
the second coming of Jesus happens twice, once invisibly and once visibly, so so ridiculous

you false jw's cannot even see how blinded and duh you are:

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them