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Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 5:57pm On Dec 13, 2016
4everGod:
So i was right that you did not read the OP lmao
did I say you were wrong
There's a difference between
"I didn't start atall"
And
"I started but didn't finish"
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 5:45pm On Dec 13, 2016
4everGod:
lmao this dude did not read the OP.
I started I didn't finish
I already saw you making creationist assumptions all over again
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 5:22pm On Dec 13, 2016
4everGod:
So the 2nd law of thermodynamics is nonsense? The law oc cause and effect is nonsense? The 1st law of thermodynamics is nonsense?

Do you think the laws were treated in isolation in the OP?
that's not what I said
I'm saying the creationist analogy is wrong
Heck you were even comparing evolution to social Darwinism- a warped philosophical view of evolution that Darwin never brought up and you're looking for someone to refute it
Whyhuh

Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 5:11pm On Dec 13, 2016
4everGod:
You have but i havent. So far all those you claim have addressed evolution have copped out here and some have even denied evolution. I guess some threads do give one food for thought.
I think you get something wrong.evolution isn't implying that life is becoming increasingly complex it only says that natural selection allows genes to be passed on and different characteristics hence preserved.Life does not violate the second law of thermodynamics in strict energetic sense.
Stop using this second law of thermodynamics nonsense.
With this warped view and misunderstanding of thermodynamics aren't you a violation of the second law yourselfhuh
Don't you growhuh?
Do you realise if the law was applied to God then God would have to diehuh??
Let us suppose that there actually were some process in nature which violated the second law of thermodynamics. Is that any reason to suppose that intelligent designers are responsible?
This is why I don't take anti evolution threads seriously.
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 4:58pm On Dec 13, 2016
4everGod:
Sire! Do not take the lad seriously. He is just eager to speak while shivering in his boots.
huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 4:58pm On Dec 13, 2016
4everGod:
You have but i havent. So far all those you claim have addressed evolution have copped out here and some have even denied evolution. I guess some threads do give one food for thought.
I haven't fully read it though
Lemme go through it and contribute grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 4:52pm On Dec 13, 2016
4everGod:
Have you remotely said anything related to the topic of the thread? Should you even be here and commenting when you have no contribution besides your usual memes
looool
But we have addressed evolution before naa
It was just tiring to see another thread
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 4:46pm On Dec 13, 2016
MrMontella:
i wasnt around much during their rambles here..
Wasnt here last night...m just reading the nonsenses the theists have been posting now...
Its funny...
their matter just tire person
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 4:36pm On Dec 13, 2016
MrMontella:
Kingebukasblog...
You said chimpanzees are not created in the image of God because they dont have spirits...
Only man does...
The bible disagrees

see? According to the bible, animals have SPIRITS...Ille est; an immaterial part.
looool
Image of god

Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 4:33pm On Dec 13, 2016
4everGod:
"so therefore" is not proper English. "SO" or "THEREFORE" will suffice.

His comment has been long made so do not dig it back up as i do not want any diversion of focus.
whatever
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 4:30pm On Dec 13, 2016
4everGod:
Was Ambassagods comment directed at you?
I don't see the point of this
I was just addressing the dumb false dichtonomy that if you don't believe in the christian God that automatically
make you am athiest so therefore christians own the god concept
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 4:23pm On Dec 13, 2016
ambassagod:
and the stupidity continues...

[s]please, 4everGod can we take out time to organise a nairaland Sunday school lesson for the dumb boy? maybe we would teach him what
a creator means, and what his nature must be for him to be a universal creator.
[/s]
for the umpteenth time
A supreme being is not ruled out
The Abrahamic God is
If it were only christians that believed in God then Diests won't exist
You guys don't own the God concept
Kapeesh??
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 4:11pm On Dec 13, 2016
benzics:
I stopped reading when I read this nonsense! Do you know that gravitation is also a theory?? ?
You just claimed evolution has no scientific observations, so much stupid in one post! We humans share similar DNAs with most animals, which comes to the conclusion that we had a similar descendant... I don't even think wasting my time on this bullshit of an "exposé" is worth it .

You claim things without observations and evidence are FALSE... there you go.. Religion and Gods are all false (even though we already know this).. And if you try bringing your double standards here again, then once again "Keep wallowing in your ignorance"

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f9/16/1b/f9161b7cba99746ed47a6e01afb0f446.jpg

https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2012/09/theorywere.jpg
lol
These guys don't know that evolution is quite easy to debunk
But unfortunately for them it's gone too far
Christianity Etc › Re: Demystifying Evolution! Exposing It And Its Fraud! by jonbellion(m): 4:01pm On Dec 13, 2016
Evolution again huh
Please if you don't have a Nobel prize for debunking two centuries worth of research then shut the fukk up
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by jonbellion(m): 3:55pm On Dec 13, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
nope, no sensible rebuttal was made

such threads are created when the conclusion is already set

the OP already concluded in his mind that Yahweh is the true god and only went through mental gymnastics to present it that way

a Muslim for instance could create his own thread too

the OP didn't make the thread as a search for the true religion or god but to cement what he thinks and believe, I believe you understand me fully but knowing you, I wouldn't expect you to act like you do.........

I could just point to this thread too as confirmation that Yahweh and its various religions are wrong!!!! that's the bias of starting from the point of conclusion does
that's what he does
Then they'll start feeling smart
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by jonbellion(m): 3:53pm On Dec 13, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
[s]You would tell your son to ride on ba embarassed

I think I said it here that atheists will have very dysfunctional families with shameless acts of moral turpitude shown by each family member grin[/s]
bullshit
It was never about the argument with you
You obviously didn't want to learn anything
You just wanted to reinforce your stupid beliefs by attacking athiests who supported either sides
With your eye like ozil own
If your stupid bible approved incest you'll be all over the place supporting it
Very warped view of morality
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by jonbellion(m): 10:01am On Dec 09, 2016
foladara777:
Why are u so happy this morning?? Did u sleep with a 10-year old this morning?? How many rounds did u go?? grin
lol
Now that is something that is really wrong
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by jonbellion(m): 10:00am On Dec 09, 2016
4everGod:
You are suddenly so angry. Jonbellion are you sleeping with your sister? I suspect you have done it once or twice or even considered it in your heart because this anger Is suspicious.
lol tofiakwa
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by jonbellion(m): 9:59am On Dec 09, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Hold on jonbellion , maybe you don't understand your own answer

Let's say you walk in on your son and daughter having consensual sex , will you reprimand them ? And what reasons will you give for reprimanding them ?


'Its gross' is not a reasonable response .
that of kind of scenario is extremely unlikely
But this kind of shit is complicated
I will be disgusted
But wetin I go do na undecided
But if you look at it this way if lying is wrong then lying to save a life is horrible and should be reprimanded at all costs
There are dome kind of things that actually need more than false dichotomy and this is what the christian doctrine is based upon
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by jonbellion(m): 9:50am On Dec 09, 2016
4everGod:
[s]My brother is there a need to say more? If a man would lust after his own flesh and blood sister and even desire carnal knowledge of her....Yaba left should have a special section for people like this.

They are abnormally normally abnormal[/s].
and siblings that were separated from birth and became lovers nko
Stop using false dichotomy for complicated issues like this angry
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by jonbellion(m): 9:48am On Dec 09, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
So to you as an atheist , sleeping with your sister is right undecided .

Okay bro embarassed
who are you to judge
Didn't your dead Jew/ sky daddy/holy lover permit inbreeding
Like sex to actually reproduce
Procreative incest is wrong
Not to mention it is extremely rare to see someone boning thier siblings unless you add the scenario I mentioned earlier
Where did I say I can bone my sister
Stop misinterpreting my views angry
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by jonbellion(m): 9:36am On Dec 09, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Incest for pleasure bro . I clearly stated that in the OP . Having sex with a family member for the pleasure , is it right or wrong . And your reasons please
okay in that case it's not wrong though very unsafe
I personally cannot do such but if there are two consenting adults it shouldn't be anybody's problem
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by jonbellion(m): 9:29am On Dec 09, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Mister , is incest right or wrong ?

No atheist here said this thread was stupid only you . If everyone is mad except you then you should know that you belong to a mental asylum.
lol
Hmmm well
It's not advisable because of genetic defects
But its complicated
There are a lot of cases in the world where two persons met each other, fell in love, got married, but discovered later on with DNA tests that they are in fact genetically related (most often as siblings who were separated and adopted by different families early in their lives). While this implies they have a higher than average chance of conceiving a biological child with genetic defects, It doesn't erase the times they bonded together, and as a result, the way they view each other, as lovers. In the case would you blame such people
But apart from that its gross
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by jonbellion(m): 9:16am On Dec 09, 2016
This is a very stupid thread
Celebrities › Re: I Am Not Ashamed Of Christ – Born Again Tonto Dikeh Declares by jonbellion(m): 9:14am On Dec 09, 2016
Good for her smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: List Of End Of The World Predictions In The Last Two Centuries Alone by jonbellion(op): 6:21am On Dec 09, 2016
4kings:
Answer these questions:
1. John during his last days(being fully aware of that), wrote about the prophecies of the last days(Armageddon) , which you know about. Do you really think he thought that the prophecies were going to be fulfilled before his death?

2. Paul knew about his Death and wrote a letter to Timothy(about the time when most of the disciples might have been dead), to control the church, do u think this action is expected from a man awaiting yahweh's coming?

3. Jesus said that day shall be "like a thief in the night", don't you think this goes in contrast with your misinterpretation?

4. Don't you think the Early Church would have been destroyed if they really held on to this belief while evangelizing to the Romans.

4. Did you read the chapter at all, or you just picked out that verse?

5.If you read that chapter, you would understand that in the preceding verses, Jesus was talking about future generations(prophesying), Why should the context change when he got to that verse?
1.Authorship of the book has been questioned over the centuries, but the prevailing view is that it was written by a man named John of Patmos, a.k.a. John the Theologian, who was neither John the Apostle nor John the Evangelist.The book is traditionally dated to the time of the Roman emperor Domitian and at a time when Christians were being seriously persecuted, and the book is viewed as an allegory of persecution or a call for them to buck up and stay strong
2. It is very likely
3. Not really
According to the christian doctrine we are in the last days so it would supposedly happen any time from now but we just don't know when.
4.I did.
That is the passage talking about the fig tree
5. Is this really what you'd call prophesying huh

Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.“ (Matthew 24: 25-34)

This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none, and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods, and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away.” (1 Corinthians 7:27,29-31)

We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed“ (1 Cor. 15:51)

“…the coming of the Lord is near. …the Judge is standing right at the door.” (James 5:8, 9)

Jesus didn’t say “that generation” which would be the normal way of referring to a future generation. He said “this generation”. Besides through a plain common sense reading of the text, we know he meant the people alive while he was speaking because he said that some of his listeners and the high priest at his trial would still be alive to see his return to Earth. Didn't you see he told the high priest huh.Only a mind interested in maintaining the illusion of faith could twist and mangle the plain words of the Bible the way Christians have in an attempt to make it credible... The job of apologetics. an honest person would have no choice but to admit that Jesus’ prophecy of the end of days has failed to come true.
CS Lewis even recognised this though he was a christian he was honest
I thought you were a diest
I'm just trying to let MrPresident1 know that he should stop all this baseless assumptions
Even if I'm wrong and Jesus is actually coming back nobody knows for sure the exact time frame
Christianity Etc › Re: List Of End Of The World Predictions In The Last Two Centuries Alone by jonbellion(op): 6:01am On Dec 09, 2016
fuckmeharder:
Jesus forgive my sins...am a fifty rag bfre thee..cum n cleanse me
your moniker betrays you
Christianity Etc › Re: Footballer Who Survived Colombian Plane Tragedy Was Reading His Bible by jonbellion(m): 5:34am On Dec 09, 2016
Seth MacFarlane missed American Airlines Flight 11 by minutes because his travel agent gave him the wrong time and because he had overslept due to a night of drinking the evening prior the
That was a 9/11 flight
Note: Seth MacFarlane is an atheist and creator of adult animated comedy family guy that pokes fun at religion constantly
If Seth MacFarlane was on that flight the same christians would say his constant god mocking got hinn killed
The dude that even serves God is in critical condition while Seth MacFarlane is airing the next season of family guy that would poke more fun on religion
It would make a whole lot of sense to just take it as the irony of life rather than thanking a god that let a believer in him suffer in this way. The trauma he'd be going through now cry
I hope he recovers. But if he does would he still be able to play cry
Christianity Etc › Re: Footballer Who Survived Colombian Plane Tragedy Was Reading His Bible by jonbellion(m): 5:13am On Dec 09, 2016
The dude is in critical condition
I hope he survives though
But I hardly see how this is a miracle
There is a player that also survived that is even in much better progress than the one that was reading bible
Please christians stop making your version of god look like a sadistic asshole
It would be a very big insult saying this to the families of the bereaved
Christianity Etc › Re: The Story Of Samson And Delilah, An Insult To Common Sense by jonbellion(m): 4:52am On Dec 09, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
The spirit of God had already left him cos he sinned by patronising prostitutes. Moreover, he sinned against God, the source of his strength, by marrying a Philistine woman, a thing God warned against. All of that are enough to make him start acting stupid cos he was no longer under the anointing. He was no longer under the anointing doesn't mean he still couldn't kill over 2000 men with just a donkey's jawbone.

The main reason why God finally left him, which made him weak, is simply because he foolishly allowed the symbol of God's authority over him to be cut off, which is his hair. God had nothing to do with him again, cos a man that could tell such a secret he shares with God to a forbidden woman cannot be trusted with God's power anymore.

His hair wasn't his power but the symbol of God's authority over him. The moment he cut if off, he lost God's favour. His hair started growing back cos God once again showed him favoured when he prayed for one last strength to be able to punish his enemies. The moment the authority came on him, his hair grew back.

As for why the Philistines were stupid enough to allow Samson's hair grow back. This questions explains why America were stupid enough to allow Osama Bin Laden blow up the World Trade Centre.
What
The
Fukkkkk

Christianity Etc › Re: List Of End Of The World Predictions In The Last Two Centuries Alone by jonbellion(op): 4:46am On Dec 09, 2016
4kings:
He...?
Who are you referring to?

" this generation", any scriptural reference?

Hmmm
For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done. “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
— Matthew 16:27-28
apologists claim he's talking about the transfiguration. but he said something about rewarding each person which did bot happen during the transfiguration
Plus in the other synoptic gospels the transfiguration hapoend before that statement
If Jesus was truly concerned that none should perish, he would’ve returned 2,000 years ago, before billions more could perish
If Jesus did set a deadline, and failed to satisfy it, it should spell “game over” for Jesus. But as you might imagine, many explanations have been developed to try and explain this situation
Peter was the first christian apologist
Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?” “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”
Mark 14:61-62(nawa oo this one was so obvious)
Unfortunately for us we are "carnal" minded
Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.”
— Mat. 10:23 (Haba naaaaaaa)
Don't forget we hath not the holy spirit wink
It's like he causes dyslexia
Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. 30 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
— Mark 13:29-30
If he actually meant our generation he would have been more explicit. He could have said "that generation"
John the Baptist believed it too
When John, who was in prison, heard about the deeds of the Messiah, he sent his disciples to ask him, “Are you the one who is to come, or should we expect someone else?”
Matt. 11:2-3

But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? … The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matt 3:7-10

“Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”
Matt. 3:2
When CS Lewis realised this you really know jesus' bleeped up
Christianity Etc › Re: List Of End Of The World Predictions In The Last Two Centuries Alone by jonbellion(op): 4:18am On Dec 09, 2016
4kings:
Their actions does not affect Yahweh's Word. wink
well he's not coming back
It is more than obvious that he thought he was coming back in the generation of the disciples
He never said it in future tense "that generation" he said "this generation"
Heck he even said the high priest would see him in the clouds While one can never prove that Jesus walked on water, or healed the sick, or rose from the dead, I believe we can prove with a high degree of confidence — that Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet who promised to return within one generation. And he failed.

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