₦airaland Forum

I've always suspected Nigeria's richness as a nation.If they have the money in plenty of it,why would they not quickly buy Boeings and invest in their own carrier.Why would they not pay their teachers and army men good wages.Their military budget isn't far off from Kenya and yet their army is so so large,I wonder how much they pay them! This country is poorer than I thought it was! Where is the solid cash in their treasury coffers? You would think that at 190 million people,Nigerians would buy more unit of cars than Kenyans but that is the opposite! No wonder their scammers want to make a killing in Nairobi.I was shocked reading that Kenya is one the largest importers of Japanese cars in the world! In 2015 Kenyans spent about 1.16 billion US dollars in imported cars.It's nice seeing that the government is keen on growing our own car manufacturing capacity so as to fully benefit from this car craze that Kenyans have!

https://www.nation.co.ke/newsplex/consumption-car-imports/2718262-3237160-1e91nn/index.html

Kur17:
Kenya has a target of Ksh1.7trillion, while they have a target of Ñ1.3trillion or appr Ksh400B

And it's not that we are very tax compliant.Only 3 million of us filled our tax returns! We should do better!

Kur17:
Hahaa washenzi sana, with all that population they're collecting Ksh150B only, Kenya collected Ksh1.1 trillion almost ten times, in the first half with all the political interruptions...

A dwindling GDP since it's peak at 2014! Would be interesting seeing how this figures would change with time!

Positives from Kenya today

1.A five billion dollar plus windfall for Kenya from the EU

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2018/11/kenya-signs-sh519b-agreement-with-eu-in-support-of-big-four-agenda/



2.After the New York route it seems that Atlanta is Kenya Airways next target

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/op-ed-kenya-airways-atlanta-is-up-next/


Things should be good folks!

Whaaaat? Oh my! This is embarrassing! With the Biafrans wanting their self rule.Things couldn't get worse for Nigeria! Egypt has it's issues with terrorism and the Muslim brotherhood Party,South Africa has reached it's peak.They are not growing at very good numbers right now(recession),we just need to get our act together and in the next ten years we should be somewhere good!

kikuyu1:
556 bn naira in six months!? A country of 180 mn?? That's only 150 bn kshs or 1.5 bn USD! WE TOLD YOU YOUR PROBLEM IS POVERTY AND YOU'VE PROVED IT. BTW,we also looked at your throughput which is very low.
Dude, YOU'RE TELLING ON YOURSELF!

Those prices are normal in Kenya too.Nothing impressive ! Just try and go visit the Giraffe Manor!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4sfV-ccXgY?t=25

Kazikazi:
Tanzania is a top notch tourist destination.We are specializing on high end rich tourists.ours is not a conference or city tourism.
A night in Thanda luxury resort costs over 10,000$. Is that for average Joe?

You are being very generous here with the ' maximum thing' but let's give it to them! The statistics out there are very clear.The budget they have is at 29-30b!

rvp2018:
That million dollar question. Other revenues are like 3 trillion - less than 10b - total gov revenues Oil+Non-Oil is about 30B - add deficit financing of 3-4 billion dollars - and you've their total budget max of 35B.

They never learn!

kikuyu1:
After all this time these guys still don't know about the average or the concept of per capita-DAMNNN!

So if oil generates 20 billion US dollars.What then generates this remaining 40 billion US dollars? How does this figure rise up?

Nice render!

forgiveness:
Rail terminal in Lagos for Lagos- Ibadan standard gauge railway.

If its 60 billion US dollars.You might as well breakdown the sources of the budget cash? How much revenue was from oil,agriculture,custom duties and so forth?

Hey easy question? What are your revenues? Total government revenues! The low value of the Naira to the dollar makes it hard to easily convert Nigeria's currencies! The figures seem gigantic but they aren't so in the real sense!

forgiveness:
Sorry, that was a mix up. You didn't write it but it is written in that source.

Nigerians complaining that we are in their forum.But aren't there Nigerians in Kenya than more Kenyans in Nairaland?

Feel free to love them! The fact is that there are more Nigerians learning and living in Kenya than in TZ.It's nice seeing that you are heading to TZ.You guys might as well take your scams there but Magufuli is being a hardliner allowing you in.Goodluck with that! Here is a bunch of your country folks who came to study here.You won't see Kenyans studying in Nigeria! We just don't trust your systems !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_nZ4mJ6ZTY?t=212

darfay:
You don't get it do you? We love Tz because it is the best thing that happened to East Africa

We are here to buttress his point! We will do it for all eternity!

darfay:
If he was right, why are still here?

This is too much! How should I trust this people again?

rvp2018:
Nigeria states budget are truly hilarious - Cross Rivers
When a state’s budget rises from N301 billion in 2017 to N1.35 trillion in 2018, it is not just a sign of fanciful accounting but of fiscal delusion; it is a poor man’s dream masquerading as a rich man’s fantasy. An increasing number of analysts have noted that the Cross Rivers State government’s spanking new budget for the year 2018 is a dangerous bridge between wishful thinking and irrational expectations

We are here because a Nigerian started this discussion and mentioned Kenya all over it.Actually the poster of the thread was right!

darfay:
If you don't care why are on Nairaland. You would soon die of internal heat

Another video highlighting the growing rift between TZ and Nigeria!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xut3B9PoGxA?t=1

The truth of the matter is that EAC countries aren't that welcoming to Nigerians!Don't be lied by the support of Kazikazi in this thread!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crzKPYeLYX8?t=30

Who cares? If we wanted you we wouldn't be deporting you in droves!

darfay:
OK, but I doesn't stop Tz from being the most advanced nation in East Africa. More Nigerians are choosing them over Kenya as holiday destination
So kill yourself

Didn't even write this nonsense.I don't use bold in my writing.Nigerians with their dirty tricks yet again!

forgiveness:
Kenyans like

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hotelmanagement.net/development/marriott-international-signs-seven-new-hotels-across-africa&ved=2ahUKEwigvtKa5M7eAhWEL8AKHZM4DLYQFjARegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw2CauTRttY3OVXDXlo9HDid&cshid=1542026595114

For a country of 50 million people our numbers are interesting than yours! and that 71% growth is way more impressive!

forgiveness:
Hahahaha! Lagos beat their Nairobi while Abuja and Port Harcourt trashed Mombasa hands down. Bhuhahahaha!

What are your projections of our GDP counting 10 years from now? What will it be when Uhuru departs?

rvp2018:
I hope Nigerians are seeing what 350B economy is really suppose to look like. They claim to have larger economy than South Africa - and yet Tanzania look even better than them.

Kenya has to grow it's economy 4 times to reach South Africa current level. And that is doable in a decade.

At 71%,Kenya's growth percentage of dollar millionaires is actually the highest in Africa!

AmenhotepZuid:

to be continued
20. SANDTON CITY, Gauteng
RICHEST SQUARE MILE IN AFRICA.

Egypt and Nigeria numbers of dollar millionaires aren't that impressive considering Kenya is way less populated than them!This charts among many others just shows how much Tanzania is still a child!

AmenhotepZuid:

to be continued
20. SANDTON CITY, Gauteng
RICHEST SQUARE MILE IN AFRICA.

They are bigger than 350b that but they've got nothing to show.The fakest GDP I've ever seen is from Nigeria.How can we have the same budget as theirs?

rvp2018:
I hope Nigerians are seeing what 350B economy is really suppose to look like. They claim to have larger economy than South Africa - and yet Tanzania look even better than them.

Kenya has to grow it's economy 4 times to reach South Africa current level. And that is doable in a decade.

I sometimes get banned for a while.Create two or three accounts to survive here!

AmenhotepZuid:
Are you guys blocking my posts

Or it's just a plot to deceive investors/outsiders?

rvp2018:
In short their tourism earning figures don't make sense. It's nigeria type of cooking. Last year we received I think 1.2M tourists - our earning as we computed was 1.2B dollars. Tanzania received 1.3M tourist - their earnings as they self-reported - 2.5B dollars.

You should know it just in the period of Alshabab and their wars that they caught Kenya - otherwise generally we use to receive twice the number of their visitors - and they use to claim they earn the same as us.

These are kenya tourism data.

[img]https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/image/view/-/4306272/medRes/1885785/-/maxw/1272/-/ksmrc/-/tourism+data.jpg[/img]

Inside the NSE(Nairobi Stock Exchange) by Richard Quest!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OweW_zNfTOw?t=169

2.4b billion US dollars is quite some money! If that is what they get annually then I don't know why most International HOTEL brands see Kenya as a first stop in the East and Central African market! The reason can be that we are more diversified in our ways. 70% of tourists in Tanzania are likely to be Safari lovers and mostly foreigners.In Kenya,the domestic Kenyans will support you even when the international tourists aren't knocking,we also host a lot of conferences (one of the best conference destination in Africa.Conference tourism earns us much just like Safari and beach tourism) and we are a hotbed of multinationals,so outsiders are in plenty here,Tanzania doesn't get to enjoy this much. Ambassadors in most EAC countries and critical UN agencies call Nairobi their home,this is a plus for us. It makes more sense for them to invest in Kenya,add the connectivity of Kenya to the world among many factors.If you look at things closely,you'll see that Kenya is the best place to put up your business as compared to Tanzania! You can add stuff like more skilled manpower,largest economy in the EAC and a liberalized economy that has strong frameworks and is less interfered by government and political forces!

We just seem to have a healthy mix of everything including external debt!

rvp2018:
Your figures are dodgy - they don't correlate with number of tourist you receive. South Africa receives 10m tourists - they make 8.8B from them. Kenya receives about 1M - we make about 1B dollars. Tanzania receive normally less than 1M - and claim to make 2.5B of them. The profile of the tourist you receive is the same that we and south africa receives - they should spend roughly 1000 dollars - not 2,500 dollars!!!. That I tell you is Nigeria style data cooking. I do hope this kind of cooking doesn't extend to your GDP figures.

The World Bank gave them a warning,Tanzanians now want to be known as cookers of data!https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-worldbank/tanzania-law-punishing-critics-of-statistics-deeply-concerning-world-bank-idUSKCN1MD17P

I can't trust whatever this Kazikazi fella brings as statistics!

rvp2018:
Your figures are dodgy - they don't correlate with number of tourist you receive.

Tanzania does not have a better railway infrastructure than us or even Ethiopia for that matter.They suck on logistics.Don't mind that baradhuli fella in the name of Kazikazi!

tlann:
kilimanjaro has been wining for years diani and masaai mara has also been wining for years so what is your point so if tanzania has better railway infrastructure than kenya you think it beats kenya in infrastructure go and lie to nigerians not us