jesusjnr:
Lol!

At least of I don't achieve anything else, I have been able to use the Truth to bring out the Antichrist and destructive spirit in MFM doctrines and prayers that you've been trying to hide all this while.

Therefore it's now up to you to decide if the Truth is going to set you free from that destructive spirit or not.
repeating d same thing all d time. anyways may God truly save u.. Amen

Goodbye.

It is an absolute waste of time to keep replying u

jesusjnr:
Who's stopping you, I just told you the Truth that would set you free from the spirit of destruction.

Luke 9:54-56 (KJV)

And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Truth indeed! and that is y I will always say u lack spiritual understanding of d bible..matt 3:11 explained to us that Christ will bamptise us with d holy ghost and withd fire .Therefore d fire john and James wanted to call is to destroy human.note: they weren't even bamptised in d holy ghost and fire as promised. So they don't understand d fire they were talking about..Jesus had to rebuke them. uThink when we mention fire in mfm, we want to burn people? lol! such a spiritual dwaf! d fire will see in mfm is DT of purging. It also destroys hindrances to peoples blessing... Again quoting irrelevant scriptures. Holiness is d only thing that saves a man from destruction.. Save urself first because ur judgments against Dr olukoya or mfm will destroy u unless u change. pls change ur critical spirit

jesusjnr:
Not surprised when with a destructive spirit keep defending such Antichrist doctrines and prayers of MFM.

As I said your choice to continue in the error, but trying to justify it to this extent has been dead on arrival.

Who is with a destructive spirit.. Me or u who did not understand something and doing everything to pull it down. As far as am concerned am not in error but u a judge. And d earlier u correct ur errors of not judging another man servant. D better for u..

katovest:

And how many of men lives Mfm prayers have destroyed? but Satan works were clearly destroyed u need to visit prayer city or international headquarters or many of d mfm churches to see, and hear how the prayers destroy so many of devils works. keep living in ur world of judgement. d end will justify d means. still quoting irrelevant scripture to always want to justify ur smear campaign. dt is y u can't make impact. A liar cant

In addition u must learn to be quiet when not knowledgeable enough on any matter.
unfortunately, U just read the bible like novel Jesus did not ask anything to die?.. A man by d tomb in gaderene.Demons had a conversation with Jesus, Have u come to destroy us before our time? Jesus had them to leave..Death is transition of spirit.. Jesus clearly made them die in d mad mans body. So if Jesus did not use d word die, we also should not use it ? Spiritual olodo..d real enemy of DT man was legion and Jesus clearly brought a separation (death of d spirit in DT man) . please d spirit gave d prayer pattern not to destroy men but to deliver men with countless deliverances by d raw manifestation of God's power as evidences...don't just read d bible by letters. it killeth . U can't make impact by not willing to learn and just judging. Anyways I pray u even make impact so DT u will know what it means to undermine another man's mininstry

jesusjnr:
Lol! Continue looking for a way to justify your Antichrist' prayers and doctrines in vain.

Destroyers of men's lives!

Luke 9:55-56 (KJV)

55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Jesus came to destroy the works of Satan not men's lives, and He did it more than anyone else without praying for His enemies to fall and die.

If He did, we would not be here today, laying claim to His Name.

And how many of men lives Mfm prayers have destroyed? but Satan works were clearly destroyed u need to visit prayer city or international headquarters or many of d mfm churches to see, and hear how the prayers destroy so many of devils works. keep living in ur world of judgement. d end will justify d means. still quoting irrelevant scripture to always want to justify ur smear campaign. dt is y u can't make impact. A liar cant

jesusjnr:
Lol!

Calling me a liar for saying the truth about MFM?

The only way I would be a liar as you claim is if in MFM you don't pray the Antichrist prayer for your enemies to fall and die?

Because if you do, then you're the real liar!

Otherwise you tell me if the enemy you're praying to fall and die are spirits and not humans.

If you wish to continue in your Antichrist prayer, you can, but do not try to justify it by all means even with lies, for you'd only be deceiving yourself.

Do u even know anything abt mfm? u just based ur arguments on empty assumptions and u prove so much point by judging.. Mfm say die in their prayers yes but d motive is deliverance to people who say it...They don't pray God to kill their enemies as u made it look like.. they take responsibility and ask d powers to die.. It is because they know the meaning of die.. unlike u.. anyways, no point wasting time discussing with a demon advocate. A man who pities powers of darkness needs pity.. U are d real Antichrist by ur judging a real man of God even after Christ ask u to judge not so that u won't be judged. U are saying mfm don't love physical enemies and quoting unrevelant scriptures DT is y u are a liar.. If u are here u av not read mfm bible study series.. 'Loving the unlovables' or Dr olukoya's teaching on brokenness, or listened to him many times on explanation on d prayer pattern of mfm or even study it effectiveness and its help to d body of Christ but rushing to look at d word die... just because ur flesh feels it cannot be God. God of heavens looks at intentions, motives and d spirit behind every act.. I know if ur intentions of condemning are pure God will sooner or later speak to u abt it but if not u are obviously fighting against d angel of d church n d consequences is not a now thing..

jesusjnr:
Lol!

Brought more to Christ or to your church buildings?

You really lack spiritual knowledge, because you equate more people being in those churches to being in Christ. That's why the churches are very full, yet wicked people are multiplying and increasing in the land.

Because the people coming to the church are not coming to Christ but to a church that appeases the desires of their flesh to destroy men lives, that's why they come but don't truly repent and turn fromne their wicked ways.

I'm sure that you think your Antichrist prayers also brought more to the church than Christ's prayers as well.

As I told you be patient, for you would soon see the difference.

Self deception is ur bane.. u think people in mfm are there to destroy men. u are a liar. no liar will make impact... When I said brought many to Christ am not saying bring people to the church. Can u beat d no of people who have never believed in d power of God or confessed Christ doing DT through this man of God. Do u know how many occults who would not be interested in God DT have surrendered to Christ power through this man of God? U are clearly d one not knowledgeable here appeal more to d flesh because u clearly do no understand what u condemn because d scripture u quoted ( all of them are not relevant) as far as mfm is concerned. And u are here judging and ranting of what u don't know.. Our prayers is clearly nt Antichrist but antiantichrists. powers of darkness , Sicknesses, ocultic world, kingdoms of darkness dread d kind of fire those prayers emits...unlike u are a devil's advocate dressed in sheep clothing.defending demons, pitying wicked powers..

jesusjnr:
Just chasing shadows trying to justify your Antichrist fall down and die prayer, with the example of Jesus, for if Jesus was had a destructive spirit like you, He would never be entrusted with such extent of power.

And there's no chance for you to be able to scratch the surface of what He was able to do with your fall down and die prayer, for there are many people who don't pray such antichrist prayer but have been entrusted with far more than you have and would be ever be able to do with such prayers.

Why? Because Jesus didn't come to destroy men's lives but to save them. But of course you have a contrary Spirit to His, so continue destroying with your destructive spirit.

As for me, don't worry for you'd soon be able to distinguish the difference.

d Antichrist fall and die prayers DT have brought more to Christ than ur own non Antichrist prayers. stop deceiving itself bro. Jesus's spirit is involved in our prayers n d end will really teach u sense u refused to learn.

sacx:


I was about to call it a day with this thread and you came up. You have so much fury in your heart right now and it's understandable. I'm not condemning your minister to you, I'm only trying to show you that there is a greater light than this
Dr Olukoya is a mighty son of God and I honour him. But that.shouldn't stop me from point these.things out when I see them.

You see these gifts of the Spirit, they are not an end in themselves. They are given to the end that though them we may be able.to learn government. We are to.administer spheres and Lord over creation. Demons are not what we are called to Lord over. In fact, they are going to be chained and locked up in the bottomless pit. There is a vast aspect of God's creation that we are still yet to discover.

Now to revelations, if you understand the.way.these.things work you will know that the things we see in the spirit realm are a representation of things we've held in our hearts as truth. To why the holy spirit reveals these things; he doesn't actually 'reveal' in that sense of the word. We are the ones that search them out.

We have an unction from the holy one and we know ALL THINGS. See? We are omniscient as he is. Things will be revealed to you according to the understanding you hold dear. Error comes in when we build a camp around these revelations and call it doctrine. This is why I say all revelations must be judged in light of the finished work.

Now I acknowledge things Dr Olukoya is doing and how he has been of help to many, but there is a greater light, and believers will not come unto the full stature of Christ until they.start to engage with this light. We are the ones delaying Christ's second coming.

Sir I believe d workings of God can't be explained without been humble enough to learn. Spiritual gift notwithstanding. I personally know people who serve God n were passing through some challenge until d holy spirit like conellius in d bible ask them to start going to mfm.. D man olukoya is a man and may not have been perfect just like every man on earth but I believe d holy spirit gave him DT ministry.. Besides d unveiling darkness and asking people to flee from them and pray against them. His ministry unveil God to people. pls take time and study their bible study n Sunday school series...u will know.. Results is DT Mfm has one d highest no of occult conversion rate in Nigeria. fomer Olumba obu man, occultic grand masters, witches and herbalists conversion were all DT Jesus is doing. pls be careful not to by too much knowledge work against d Jesus u are defending

jesusjnr:
You should have just simply shown me a place where Jesus prayed for His enemies to fall and die, instead of all these tautology and flimsy excuses. Except y'all saying enemies didn't exist in His days and you are the only ones with them.

Anything to justify disobedience of His Words and man's inclination for vengeance.

Jesus did not need to pray fall down and die as a command. but he commanded dryness to fig tree, sent demons out before their time and curse the scribe and Pharisees. Besides he is d saviour.. He healed so many sicknesses n raised d death.. d fall down n die prayers has also healed thousands of sicknesses n even bring millions of breakthrough through d holy spirit working. U show me how many people u av helped.. Stop condemning what u don't know anything about

sacx:


If you are sure he is the one revealing these things to you, then continue in them. But remember, every revelation must be judged through the finished work. If you don't mind I would like to know what runs through your mind when you hear the word 'finished work'.

Also, there is no point trying to separate the Holy Spirit from the believer. It's like trying to separate the father from the son. We are one, we can't do without each other.

The seven sons of sceva even better do justice to my cause. They went chasing demons when they didn't have the knowledge of who they were. But look at Jesus, the man, while he walked the.earth. Demons threw themselves out without him actively engaging them. It's an insult for demons to come try.engage a believer in battles. It's like Satan the opposed trying to challenge God. We don't give them the attention they seek. We show them their defeat and watch them flee with their tails behind.

Know who you are, that's my message again, so you can stop fighting mundane things. Do you not know that.he that.is joined with God is one Spirit? Have you finished searching out what it means to be one spirit with God? Do you know why the angels so earnestly desire to look into these things? See, Christianity is beautiful o, we are the ones making.it look ugly.

Explore God that you are; don't study demons. Uou are immortal, you are righteousness, you are life. The moment you come to the understanding that you are not different from the Father, all things begin to fall in place.

Deal with demons when you see them, but don't spare a place of thought in your heart for them.

why will d holy spirit reveal demons identity to real deliverance ministers if he doest want us to know abt them... Revelations DT has helped millions n u are here condemning.. u don't know anything abt d workings of God if u believe God can only operate by a method n confined to a lay down way... d word is good n it gives authority to real deliverance ministers like olukoya... sir, how many person have u helped solve d problem of barrenness in this word. God has used Olukoya to solve thousands of these issues including many 60, 50 years women in this lifetime all by these msg u condemn so much. Be careful, u may be criticising d working of God by ur myopism

MrPresident1:
The man has a PhD in Molecular Genetics.

If I am him, I would devote my entire life to finding how stem cells can be created from living tissue, not from embryos, then use it as a basis for treating all kinds of illnesses and diseases.

pls always try and study a person's life before commenting on issues abt d person..

Calm down guys. All assets declared shall be verified. That is main reason Many people don't publicly declare their assets. A bold man DT publicly declared his assets with confidence has no skeleton in his cupboard. Seyi is different. I dare anyone with conflicting opinion to do thorough investigation. For those asking for address. Visit the code of conduct bureau for the addresses u seek. Cos addresses can't be added to public document . Omituntun in Oyo state

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