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Answer the question on origin of your beloved name yaribaa or Yoruba whatsoever

So you got a cue of cavalry from nupee who in turn got it from Hausa... the truth is coming out clearly.... and don't forget to answer the question on origin of the name Yoruba or yaribaa..... i maintain nupee got prisoners of war after they sacked You severally... after queen aminaa made nope king to pay tribute to her with the booty of Yoruba slaves after sacking oyo

macof:
I see hausa have nothing on yorubas.
1535? Why not quote where it says Orompoto conquered nupe

They re-established Oyo as more centralized and expansive than ever. The people created a government that established its power over a vast empire.[6] During the 17th century, Oyo began a long stretch of growth, becoming a major empire. Oyo never encompassed all Yoruba-speaking people.
Taking a cue from their Nupe enemies (whom they called "Tapa", the Yoruba rearmed with armor and cavalry.[6] Oba Ofinran, Alaafin of Oyo, succeeded in regaining Oyo's original territory from the Nupe.[5] A new capital, Oyo-Igboho, was constructed, and the original became known as Old Oyo.[5] The next oba, Eguguojo, conquered nearly all of Yorubaland.[5] After this, Oba Orompoto led attacks to obliterate the Nupe to ensure Oyo was never threatened by them again.
Again, I ask for proof that Nupes enslaved Yorubas... a military defeat and city occupation doesn't say "enslaved"
The Oyos of the city had moved to Borgu.
Same rogue fulani and Ilorin alliance that met defeat at the hands of Ibadan?

The Fulani Caliphate attempted to expand further (than Ilorin )into the southern region of modern-day Nigeria, but was decisively defeated by the armies of Ibadan in 1840.

And don't forget to tell me who christened You the name Yoruba you are so proud of.. be courageous enough

If wahala is not Hausa tell me the meaning of wahala in Arabic or any other language... wahala has no meaning in Arabic you copied it from Hausa... i would be waiting for the meaning of wahala in arabic

macof:
What did we get from you? Words? are you clowns now?
Because we say "wahala" "alubosa" these are arab words you iidiot. .. how can you claim arab words? Damn!

Tarikh Al Sudan and Leo Africans

macof:
You asked me to provide name of the book Ahmed Baba wrote about yoruba. .so now I ask, since I don't have an answer to ur question, what are the names of these books written by arabs in the 9th century about hausaland?
Germans were named by the Romans? The British too. . Hebrews named so by foreigners, the entire Europe is named so by Phoenicians
So what's all this nonsense?
Mehn! U folks lack common sense, I thought you said we never had dealings with Malians and Songhai. .now we had dealings but they enslaved us.
Pls maintain one argument and making a fool of urself

book about description of Africa...

That's exactly the same time as queen amines rule and conquest

MorrowCaligari:
Oyo had grown into a formidable inland power by the end of the 14th century. For over a century, the Yoruba state had expanded at the expense of its neighbors. During the reign of Onigbogi, Oyo suffered military defeats at the hands of the Nupe led by Tsoede. Sometime around 1535, the Nupe occupied Oyo and forced its ruling dynasty to take refuge in the kingdom of Borgu. The Nupe sacked the capital, destroying Oyo as a regional power until the early 17th century
LOOOOOOOL! hahahahaahahha!

What proof you need more than queen amina's

macof:
Proof pls? Show me documentation cus the 19th century is not too far along
the evidence of yoruba slaves in Hausaland should be very visible
Wtf! You insult yoruba for having facial marks? Omg! Hausas have the most horrific facial marks. . You don't know ur people have facial marks? Omg!

conquest

The objectives of her conquests were twofold: extension of her nation beyond its primary borders and reducing the conquered cities to a vassal status. Sultan Muhammad Bello of Sokoto stated that, "She made war upon these countries and overcame them entirely so that the people of Katsina paid tribute to her and the men of Kano and... also made war on cities of Bauchi till her kingdom reached to the sea in the south and the west." Likewise, she led her armies as far as Kwararafa and Nupe and, according to the Kano Chronicle, "The Sarkin Nupe sent her (i.e. the princess) 40 eunuchs and 10,000 kola nuts.... haha these were the yoruba slaves caught by nupee and given to queen amina as tribute who would later sell their brothers to them fir shipment to the americas

Tell me the name of the book Ahmed Baba wrote about Yoruba you congenital liar.. you had no business and had never done any with songhay because all you after is your kiriji wars to sell your kinds to work in hausaland Brazil etc

macof:
Smh! Mumu, if we had contact with songhay and mali. How come Ahmed Baba wrote about yoruba nation
How come islam is called "religion of mali" in yoruba?
Yoruba reached modern Burkina Faso and ivory coast , but you think we didn't notice Mali or Songhai? Where's ur brain?

Haha idiot those slaves you quote were not Hausa people.. but Yoruba who were caught by nupee and paid as tribute to queen amino.. who were sold to Yoruba again who shipped their brothers to america Brazil Cuba and whole world..... Hausa is whose language then if its not Hausa people? Leave that your stupid nolo Saharan theory until you tell me from who the Hausa people adopt Hausa lanfuage

macof:
1. They lost their original nilo-saharan language and adopted another
2. Lost their original way of worship
3. Lost their dynasties
4. Enslaved by many people. ..being the most enslaved people in africa
5. Have been dominated by fulanis for 200 years in their own land

Mali and songhay sold Hausa that's the greatest joke i heard... i told you how we sold Yoruba slaves through queen amina conquest of nupee.. nupee in turn conquered you subhumans and sold to us... now tell me how exactly you got Hausa slaves liar

macof:
Wow! So you live in a cave that you've never heard of the remarkable Ife near copper arts and ivory of Owo?
says the slowpoke that lost uncles and brothers to the same transatlantic trade.
We yorubas sold you off to Europeans. .why don't you understand the simple english? Malians and Songhai sold you to arabs
You've remained slaves to fulanis for 200 years
Gosh! Slaves in your own land. .

Idiot to us Islamic bond is much more than ethnic affiliations so we see nothing wrong in helping him achieve unity among Hausa states as far as Hausa language culture etch adopted the British royal family are not original English in your own stupid reasoning you would say Britons are slaves idiot ... when you are reading of of fall of songhay endeavor to read about Kotal kanta of kebbi and his role in its demise... you idiots are 3rd stage slaves because queen amino conquered nupee.. then nupe in turn conquered you guzs and sold same animals to us... now tell me the origin of the word Yoruba... tell me who remove you from animals in jungle and introduce you to outer world of humans by giving you the name Yoruba or Yoruba to upgrade you from little sub humans to a little grade before humans

macof:
he say aided. Aided to displace your dynasties. .all over hausaland. I've never known a more enslaved and proud people than hausas. . No wonder fulani have the "born to rule" mentality, they are used to having slaves . Even in the political sphere of northern Nigeria, fulani dominate you fools. . Imagine. .being slaves to fulanis for 200 years in ur own land. And you have the guts to compare hausa city-states to yoruba city-states
Provide evidence that you sacked Ilorin? You think Yorubaland is like hausaland? I'm proud to say no inch of Yorubaland was sacked by a non yoruba power until the British
Provide evidence that Yorubas were slaves in Asia? Hausas on the other hand were castrated by the arabs.
Shut up, songhay ended cus of Morocco, Morocco is an hausa state in this fool's mind
Can you provide evidence of this "pillage"? When did hausas raise weapon against yorubas? You dummies have been enslaved for life.
Show me what century, what people enslaved yorubas apart from Dahomey?
Mehn! Hausas are such slaves that even ur original nilo-saharan language is lost, you had to adopt an afroasiatic one

You had no contact with songhay or mali because if you did we were had more chance of knowing than you... because we were part of songhay empire so dont tell me nonsense

macof:
You are big slowpoke if you think yorubas never had dealings with Malians and Songhai.
Ahmed Baba is known to have written about Oyo in the 16th century. Stop ur lies. We know you are insecure. .
You started this thread with sokoto caliphate, after I and opcnairaland gave you the very much needed reply you switched to hausa city-states..hausas that were easy to be conquered by a fulani refugee
Mr. Maintain one argument. .you are so confused. ..

Idiot you are changing from mali to songhay... be bold to tell us who gave you your Yoruba name all great empires had visitors and wrote books about the places to tell you the exact situation about the area... no one knows oyo hence no emissaries to the king... local champion be courageous to tell us history behind your name Yoruba or yoruba

Idiot sokoto caliphate was successor to Hausa city states... be bold to tell us the history behind the name Yoruba... and don't tell us nonsense about Ahmed Baba he even introduce Al maghili to Hausa king Muhammad rumfa as adviser... you are not in position to tell us about songhay empire because we were part of it... liar you had no contact with songhay or mali.. we gave you your Yoruba name deal with it

Be bold and tell us the history behind your name... because you guys always like to lie about the mali or songhay that you had no contact with... where's Hausa songhay mande taureg Fulani were all part of the songhay empire you lied about

He even lied it was Hausa that found them in their jungle and named them yaariba or Yoruba and popularize the use of the name... we Hausa need no introduction or a songhay to write about us

MorrowCaligari:
yess, apparently the man who gave you your name?? how sad!!! a songhai named your people!! and seriously? when arab scholars were writing about hausa civilizations in the 9th century looooooool! i told you, you are nothing, good for nothing but slavery!!! and the only dealings youd have with malians and songhais would be when they push your people into caravans and sell you off.
smh! clown of a race!!!

MorrowCaligari:
yess, apparently the man who gave you your name?? how sad!!! a songhai named your people!! and seriously? when arab scholars were writing about hausa civilizations in the 9th century looooooool! i told you, you are nothing, good for nothing but slavery!!! and the only dealings youd have with malians and songhais would be when they push your people into caravans and sell you off.
smh! clown of a race!!!

What's the name of the book you serial liar?? tell me the origin of the name first

Your kiriji wars produced the greatest number of slaves that were exported to hausaland Europe and Cuba Brazil etch you tiger lined face idiot

Be bold and courageous to tell us the history of the name Yoruba or Yoruba?? Certainly it was not oduduwa that gave you that name

Tell me any encounter between Hausa and Yoruba idiots the simple truth is everything you got from us even the name yoruba... we conquered nupe through queen amino... in turn nupe conquered and sold you slave to us

You idiot adopt everything from us from clothing.. horses.. ajami script pretty much everything you guys are worthless slowpoke idiots

The only reason that interrupted the dipping of the Qur'an in the sea was the British conquest... didn't sokoto caliphate sacked oyo ile The capital of your oyo empire... i told you how we got you slaves now answer me how did you get Hausa slaves when you coward never stepped your toes out of oyo to come near hausaland

macof:
Emir in one city out of hundreds in Yorubaland. . Fulani conquered u slaves all over ur land nd displaced ur kings
At least Ilorin had no existing dynasty, Ilorin was an independent city. .responsible for its own decisions. .some of such decisions was allowing an emir. The people in Ilorin at 1824 were all muslims made up of the following: Yoruba, Nupe, Borgu, Hausa, fulani. .. no fulani conquered an inch of Yorubaland. Yorubas at Ilorin willingly allowed an Islamic figure, the eemir was not imposed on them
If you think fulani are strong enough to challenge yoruba, we did nearby Offa, Omu-aran never got an emir?
Of course, I know you are the slaves, slaves to everybody who ever encountered you. .slaves to arabs, Berbers, songhay, fulani, Yoruba, Portuguese, British, Dutch etc

macof:
How does this go against all what scholes0 and I have been saying? Damn! You hausa are really dumb folks .
The article made it clear that oyo empire had slaves from the northern nations ie nupe, Ebira, Hausa, and fulani.
Hausaland on the other hand, never had southerners as slaves. There was no market in the reach of hausas to purchase southern slaves. . You sold yourselves.
Yorubas in slavery didn't come until Oyo lost much of its power in the 1800s, and yoruba subsequent intertribal wars. yoruba slaves of this time never left africa. .. many of them are in Sierra Leone, some came back home

you were never a great trading terminus you had no trade routes have you read of queen amines conquest?

Yoruba were never in the scheme of things in west Africa.. we were busy with kanem borno mali and songhay when no one knows Yoruba even to early adventurers... Hausa were mentioned by historians Ibn khaldun and in the book tarikh Sudan.. the reason why no one mentioned Yoruba is because you were never important in the first place.... shame the devil and tell me the history of the name Yoruba or Yoruba??

Where did you got Hausa slaves?? Did you conduct any war with Hausa Where's we got you slaves from nope raiding you guys and sold same to us... now tell me how you got ours?

macof:
So you are saying hausa and arabs never had interactions?
Lol. Oyo had hausa slaves. ..deal with it. Ilorin is a testament to that fact. . The 19th century history of Ilorin speaks of Afonja recruiting hausa and fulani slaves serving in Oyo
they never came back. .but they kept your folks as slaves
stop dreaming hausas never had yoruba slaves you mofo. ..where could you have gotten them from?

macof:
So you are saying hausa and arabs never had interactions?
Lol. Oyo had hausa slaves. ..deal with it. Ilorin is a testament to that fact. . The 19th century history of Ilorin speaks of Afonja recruiting hausa and fulani slaves serving in Oyo
they never came back. .but they kept your folks as slaves
stop dreaming hausas never had yoruba slaves you mofo. ..where could you have gotten them from?

deal with an emir in ilorin first before you can dream of owning Hausa slaves... even today you know who are slaves between we and you

Idiot liar never even in your dreams can you own Hausa or Fulani slaves... it is know fact you are the weakest coward and most enslaved people on earth... i know of many American and Brazilian Yoruba slaves can you tell us where Hausa slaves are you stupid slave.. deal with an emir in ilorin first

Give us testimony of your so called greatness... don't you have great explorers that visit you?? I gave you Leo Africans view of hausaland and Timbuktu almaghili etc tell me yours... you ducking cowards that invite the British to conquer you guys.. stupid slaves

From the mouth of lord luggard about the city of kano... "i have never imagined nor thought of anything of this caliber in Africa" despite Europeans view about Africa... because of the high civilizations the British saw in northern Nigeria they had to adopt indirect rule for Hausa people

Even Arab geographers had high regard for hausaland... read tarikh Sudan book and Leo Africanus book about the description of Africa you would know how advanced hausaland is... do you know the first university in sub-Saharan Africa located in Timbuktu sankoree university has branch in Katsina when you guy where roaming with leaves eating each other...

Queen amina of zazzau conquered much of territory known as Nigeria including nupe land who sold Yoruba slaves also... Yoruba were never powerful they didn't control any trade route... they were just busy exporting themselves to Cuba Brazil america etc... stupid slaves