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raumdeuter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfaUOqHuAvE

These ones are just frustrated by his injuries nothing else.
Thiago on the pitch has delivered.
Liverpool's best midfielder in 21/22 hands down.
And the COVID run in

A40:
I don't know one Liverpool fan that rates Thiago and his time at Liverpool honestly. I think the Kendrick chap is more of a Thiago fan than a Liverpool fan because I can't imagine defending their worst signing in a decade at least (Naby Keita might have something to say about that)

But we're not talking of his Liverpool time, rather his Bayern days.
He won everything for Bayern and left on a high.
You guys still haven't found a suitable replacement for him which is amongst the reason you're struggling, especially in Europe.

And Naby Keita was bought for over 50m to be the man and the future of the midfield and failed badly.

Thiago was bought for a specific reason, a player to help a change in style after Wijnaldum exit.

And when on the pitch he has been good, hell he made the Premier league XI in 21/22 season.

He was our best midfielder in the COVID run in when top 4 was clinched

Problem is he can't just stay fit

raumdeuter:
A40 already listed the stinkers in high profile games where Thiago played.

No Bayern fan will forget how Thiago escorted Saul Nigues for 40yards to score a goal against us

No wonder Spain disown am. Bend waist send 2yatd idea balls

Are you saying Kicker and the whole Bundesliga have no clue and are wrong?
Because they all had him in their team of the season two separate seasons.
Thiago when fit dominated the Bundesliga.
In Europe the whole team underwhelmed at times but they were up against MSN, BBC and peak Simeone ATM sides fielding soon to be retired/ geriatric players like Lahm, Alonso, Bastian, Ribery in crucial positions.

AdemolaVictorTv:
Cameroon & Super Falcons of Nigeria play goalless draw - 2024 Olympics Qualifiers (1st Leg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqn7wJjoqZs

Why are they wearing the same green Kit colours?
What of the white kits?
Caf is irresponsible

raumdeuter:
By 2020 Robben and Ribery already left. Martinez and Lewandowski joined around the same time Thiago did yet they all got armbands but no one send Thiago they knew he was an indomie spineless player which was why he couldnt get a Spanish starting shirt at any major tournament

I'm still waiting for you to explain how Thiago made the Team of the Season in 16/17, 18/19.
If as you say he was mediocre all through his Bayern years.

Below is a excerpt from a 2016 article;

A40:
Blame Tucheliban for the Kimmich debacle. He's leaving for a reason

Thiafraud was there all the big CL ties we lost to Madrid,Atletico, Barca you can only fool the uninformed. Not OG like me wey don tey pass Schnapps.

He was directly responsible for the loss to Atletico when his papier mache ass got dispossessed and led to the deciding goal. Don't get me started on that fraud.

All 4 graphics below point out Kimmich and Goretzka there

Lol. So you're blaming Thiago for those losses.
Look at those teams you posted.

You had a geriatric Alonso and Thiago in a two man midfield. Vidal the only energetic one in an attacking role, then the over the hill Robbery up against a formidable Real Madrid who had prime BBC.

The other lineup you had Alonso, Bastian, Lahm and Thiago up against MSN Barca.
Alonso, Bastian, Lahm were slow at that point and were close to retirement.

These are who you have against a a vibrant MSN, BBC sides and you expect a miracle
And you have the galls to blame Thiago

And I remember Thiago was one of the few bright spots in those games.
You're not the only one who watched those CL games, I did too.

You have to blame your squad planning, it was bad at that point.

To maximize the best of Thiago, you need an energetic player beside him. You can see when
Goretza came and that partnership won a convincingly.

Hansi Flick recognized that which is why he won a lot and even tried convincing Thiago to stay.
After he left everything went to sh!t and he was sacked the following season

Every player, even the best needs the right pieces around to get the best out of them.

raumdeuter:
When captain was off the pitch how many times did Thiago get the armband

Considering Ribery and Robben and a lot of them were there before Thiago came.
Not surprising

raumdeuter:
I watched Bayern more than anyone on this forum and Thiago was mediocre for almost every season but had a good final season which will not change the narrative that he was a mediocre player

That is why he cannot even get a starting shirt for Spain at any tournament even teenagers like Gavi and Pedri dey body am

This is a lie.
Thiago made the Team of the Season in 16/17, 18/19.
He was Bayern best midfielder those years and for you to say he was mediocre all through his Bayern career is a bare faced lie.
Yes he suffered injuries no doubt but when fit, that guy bossed the Bundesliga like no other.

raumdeuter:
Plenty receipts dey Mark Van Bommel captained Bayern he wasnt German The people below are also German

You mean when the captain is off the pitch😄 Lahm was the captain then Manuel. Only Van Bommel as non German captain in the history of Bayern?

raumdeuter:
Completed passes from who? You think sending 500 passes to defenders and bending to spin a 3yard pass is what matters. Most pass completed stats are topped by defenders and midfielders because they don't do it in threatening areas of the field where opponents are

VVD pass to Konate they repeat the pass 15 times with no attacker around them

Why is the pass not completed towards a goal or assist.
How is Elliot in the same team outdoing him and his passes are going towards goal

Thiago never captained Bayern, Kimmich has done that multiple times

You still never tell us why Gavi and Pedri are glueing Thiago to the bench in Spain

But Thiago isn't there for assists. He's best as a controlling Midfielder, the one who gives the pass before the assist.



Thiago didn't captain Bayern cause he wasn't German.
Tell me the last time a non German captained Bayern.
Infact has any non German ever captained?
I can't tell

raumdeuter:
If Bayern want o keep him they surely would or at least leave on free transfer

So what stats should we use to judge Thiago? When teenagers like Elliot are gumming him to the bench. In the same club under the same manager. Szoboslai who joined this season has already matched him

If we cannot use goals and assists to judge him then what should we use? Saves, cleansheets jersey sizes or number of thumbsup given?

How about passes completed, long and short, successful takeons, ball recovery, tackle success.
Thiago is elite in all this categories.
You know things that makes him one of the most talented footballers of his generation.

Do you judge Toni Kroos with G&A?

Thiago didn't want to stay at Bayern anymore.
He left on a high. As a Legend

raumdeuter:
Since Thiago left Bayern, Kimmich has delivered 9 assists in the CL

Guess how many assists Thiago has delivered for Liverpool in the CL? 1. 19 games 1 assist. Thiago in the CL does not even have better stats than Elliot and Curtis Jones

Bayern offloaded Thiago at what age ? Can you paste the answer here

Now tell us why Thiago has been getting benched by teenagers still writing GCE from Elliot and Jones to Gavi and Pedri

Thiago Liverpool career 6557 minutes, 3 goals 6 assists
20yr old Elliot Liverpool career 5080minutes 8 goals 7 assists
Szoboslai that just joined this season Liverpool career 1900minutes 5 goals 4 assists

Thiago is the unproductive soil used in the biblical parable

Offload? Bayern did everything to persuade him to stay but he refused.
Players like Thiago shouldn't be judged on goals & assists. That's just a layman view.
If you're bringing up goals stats means you can't see the big picture

https://www.football-espana.net/2020/06/20/bayern-munich-want-to-keep-hold-of-thiago-alcantara[url]

raumdeuter:
While Thiago was forming activity, Kimmich was delivering an assist in the final. Making it 4 assists in the knockouts plus 1 goal

Let Kimmich deliver the assist now na.
Did they tie his legs?
Why is he not delivering the assists?
Why is Bayern looking to offload him at 29?
At 29 Thiago was dominating midfields em route to European glory.
At least Thiago has the excuse of being injury prone, what's Kimmich excuse for being on the transfer shortlist at 29.

raumdeuter:
Bayern beat Barcelona the season they won La Liga
Beat PSG the season they won French Ligue with Messi in their team
Beat Inter home and away the season they got to the CL final

Show workings of the teams Thiago has helped Liverpool beat in the CL
Villareal that finished 7th in the La Liga is stronger than Barcelona?

In Liverpool benched by Elliot and Curtis, In Spain benched by Pedri and Gavi who will save Thiago from serial embarassment

Bayern helped him otherwise he would have been like Tello, Krkic and co

Thiago bossed Inter at the San Siro 2-0.
And he even went all the way to the final knocking Bayern and Kimmich conquerors Villarreal.
Kimmich needs to guide Bayern to the Semis first of all then we can talk.

That 7th Villarreal knack Bayern akpako home and away
Ask Bayern who they would rather had faced between Barca and Villarreal that season

raumdeuter:
MOTM is irrelevant if you dont have any stat to back it up

Coman scored in the final
Allison broke records for most saves in the final

What did Thiago do in the final?

Thank God you said stats;


No Bayern player played more passes (85), made more ball recoveries (7), made more tackles (3), made more interceptions (2) or created more chances (2) than Thiago.
The Spaniard also played 2 key passes, delivered 10 accurate long balls and completed a stunning 88.2 per cent of his passes in a man of the match performance.
He was on top of his game at the defensive end too, as he made some crucial interceptions and broke up plays at the right time - the tackle to steal the ball from Neymar in the last 10 minutes of the game being the vital play.

raumdeuter:
You need to have some shame, Thiago went the entire 2020 knockout with 0 goals 0 assists, Kimmich with 1 goal 4 assists including the final yet you want to smuggle some Okirika polling booth award that he didnt even win

UEFA called him the player of the match not me.
He had the the highest ratings in most sports sites.
After all you claimed Matip and Allison were the Men of the match even though VVD was the official MOTM.
I'm just serving you your own poison😀

raumdeuter:
Barcelona was La Liga champions. That Villareal made the semi does not make them a top side, That Leipzig made the CL semi wont make them bigger than Barcelona or Bayern or even Dortmund

Show us the top sides Liverpool beat with Thiago in the side

Pre Thiago, Liverpool used to beat Barcelona, PSG Bayern and co, who dem don beat since Thiago join

Answer on a postcard

It does not matter.
What matters is present situation not the past.
Villarreal was a tougher opponent in the 21/22 CL.
A Messi- less Barca parading U21 kids is not a top side.
That team was a Europa league level side.
And again you were wrong Barca were no Laliga champions...ATM were the defending Laliga Champions not Barca

raumdeuter:
Which final and which Man of the match

Shey na falsehood wey dem dey use sell Thiago

Polling booth award according to you is now a standard measurements
Btw Fansites and top sports journalists called Thiago the player of the match

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/17/thiago-alcantara-one-got-away-manchester-united-now-facing/[url]

raumdeuter:
We are talking about Barcelona PSG type top sides
Or beating Inter home and away

He dey mention Villareal as top side

Is not even worth a comparison .
Villarreal in the CL semis is far tougher game than facing a weakened Barca side filled with u21 kids in the group stages.
You as Bayern fan had a first hand experience of Villarreal after they knocked Bayern out in the quarters.

AdisaOwala:
Thiago was the MOTM and bossed the final..which according to you, is the most important factor.

Thiago is a Bayern legend

Exactly. Evidence choke

raumdeuter:
We show workings, Thumbs up is not it

BTW dont distract us let kendrick9 show me the top oppositions Thiago in Liverpool shirt defeated in the CL with the dates like I did

Inter, ATM, Villarreal are not top sides?

raumdeuter:
We don't count polling booth awards

No goal, no asssist in the knockout stages

While in the knockout stages of the same competition Kimmich delivered 1 goal and 4 assists including an assist for the final winning goal
.
Thiago delivered 72,744 thumbs up 62,648 idea balls

Yet the MoTM in the final. Ask any Genuine Bayern fan who was Bayern best CL mid in 19/20 CL run in.
Thiago would be the common answer

raumdeuter:
Since Thiago left, I will give you some scores with Kimmich vs top sides

Barcelona 0 Bayern 3 Sept 14 2021
Inter 0 Bayern 2 Sept 7 2022
Bayern 2 Inter 0 November 1 2022
PSG 0 Bayern 1 February 14 2023
Bayern 2 PSG 0 March 8 2023
Bayern 2 Barcelona 0 Sept 13 2022
Barcelona 0 Bayern 3 October 26 2022
All these teams won their leagues last season

Now list the big teams Thiago has beaten in the CL since joining Liverpool

I am waiting

After we finish this and we will discuss how Thiago failed to nail a shirt for his National Team despite being from the favorite La Masia

Wait.. What was his ratings in these matches?
I'm coming with that.. I deal on facts.
Thiago has gone to the final since he left Bayern.
Let Kimmich do so then we talk

A40:
Please stop disturbing us about that fraud.

Three seasons now he's in Liverpool college of medicine. Doing feckall. Besides why him carriage no enter their national team?

The Kimmich who you praised as the German lion is about to be shipped out.
Bayern are looking for buyers, any maga wey bring huge sums now, otilo.
Maga don pay😀
Since Thiago left, Kimmich and Goretza has been exposed as a fraudlent midfield combo.
Thiago suffered injuries during his Bayern days but when he finally got fit, he won you guys the CL in a commanding fashion.
Respect your Legend

raumdeuter:
Thiago that was carried everywhere, In Spain this guy cannot enter team ahead of Gavi and Pedri. The folks Kimmich school regularly in CL

This Thiago was rumored to be the next wonderkid, thank God for Bayern in his career otherwise he would have been another Bojan Krkic, Tello and the La Masia flops

Twisting waist to send 3yard pass no be football

No wonder boys wey still dey deal with teenage acne like Curtis Jones and Elliot dey bench am,

Onye thumbs up

Since Thiago left which top side has Kimmich schooled in the CL?
You fought tooth and nail to land Thiago from Barce, your club are the lucky ones.
Thiago has been there and done that.. No time to be competing with small boys.
Let the young takeover.
Besides he's always had injury issues which is no fault of his.
A fit Thiago still gets in the XI over either Jones or Elliot

raumdeuter:
Make Thiago carry Liverpool na abi back dey pain am?

Thiago wey no make Spain team consistently at any tournament

Thiago has done and achieved everything. He's proven.
The only season he was fit for the run-in, he won you guys the CL.
Kimmich is supposed to be in his prime yet he's relying on an ex retiree to come back and hold his hands as usual since he can't lead a midfield on his own.
What next. A Schweinsteiger recall?

Capaldi:
Kroos returns back to the national team. At least pkasso Kimmich wont be stinking up the midfield for Germany this Euros.

There was a time Raumdeuter and A40 were on how Kimmich carried their midfield to CL win in 2020.
I never bought into the hype.
Time has proven that Thiago carried that midfield.
Kimmich ain't that good. He should return to RB where he started

Biggest surprise is that anyone Southside still watches NTA🤔

Ballzproblem2:
withdrawal stage from kpoli don dey make you type nonsense 👀

I was being generous with 60.
Do you know how many great players teams like Germany(formerly West Germany), Italy, Brazil, France, have produced who shone at the WC?
Ronaldo is a nonentity at the world cup. Facts

hensben:
Where is his player of the tournament in all of this. Messi won it all, from junior to senior level.

Asamoah Gyan is a better World Cup player than Ronaldo...
Ronaldo wouldn't even make Top60 Greatest world cup players.
It shows how poor he's been at the grand stage.
No player of the tournament in any International competitions he's been in.
Goals against Lithuania and Liechtenstein won't wash such a poor showing

Thiago alcantara, Daniel Sturridge, should make this list. Not forgetting Neymar

nairalanda1:
Reminds me of one Hollywood actress whose father decided to keep lions when she was growing up.From the cub to the adult.

Let's just say long term, it was not a good idea.

For those who think I am telling tall tales...here are some pictures. LIFE magazine no less.

Thanks for this..
Apparently her granddaughter says she still lives with a couple of Tigers and Lions till this day


https://www.today.com/popculture/dakota-johnson-says-tippi-hedren-lives-13-or-14-big-t182396[url]