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That's not the same thing.

People here are talking more about mythology than true history.

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dayokanu:
@Kenezi,
Do you know Gaza has a border with Egypts fellow arabs? Or does Israel conrtol that again?

Can Israel monitor/control the Gazans that enter their territory given the history of suicide bombings when these entry and exits were uncontrolled.

The Egyptian border is closed to prevent a refugee situation flooding Egypt. Strangely, people don't want to live in Gaza. Probably because Israel cut off their water and electricity. It's bad that the Egyptian border is closed though, blame 1967.

davidylan:
1. If Israel didnt control Gaza air and seaports, Iranian missiles would have taken out much of Tel Aviv by now.

2. Egypt controls one access into and out of Gaza.

3. Its possible to leave Gaza, christians from there made the pilgrimage to Bethlehem only a few days ago.

4. If Israel wanted land they would not have violently uprooted Israelis from Gaza

Bottomline - Learn to be truthful, lies seem to be an islamic trait.

1. Israel isnt dehumanising anyone.

2. If Arabs have committed atrocities in the past what moral authority do they have to be preaching to Israel?

3. while Iraqis are busy demanding a halt to Israeli strikes . . . turkish warplanes are busy bombing Kurdish Iraq . . . strangely they seem to care only for the palestinians than their own fellow citizens.

Bottomline . . . learn to tell the truth.

We've heard this disgrace of an excuse for far too long. The Gaza palestinians are fully complicit in HAMAS crimes and duly deserve punishment.

funny enough i NEVER hear you complain when HAMAS missiles strike Israeli kindergarten schools.

Threat of Iranian missile strikes (just like Iraqi WMDs) is just another poor justification for Israeli atrocities. I don't know any civilians of Gaza that travelled to the West Bank, but if I am wrong, correct me. Recenly Israel reluctantly removed Israeli settlements from Gaza, after invading it and occupying it since 1967. I imagine that the number of attacks on the settlements there didn't make it worth it, yet they still occupy Gaza, and starve it's inhabitants to death.

Israeli is not dehumanising anybody?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7136068.stm

"almost 75% of Jewish youths said Arabs were less intelligent and less clean than Jews.". All the embargoes that Israel has put on Gaza, it's laughable you are telling me that they are being treated fairly. What a joke. If we follow your logic, no white country can ever preach to a fascist black dictator, because in the past white people enslaved black people. Arabs have committed atrocities, so now, according to you, Israelis can do it too. Let's ignore that both Arabs and Israelis were both committing atrocities against each other way back, before 1948, it seems to suit your argument better.

Iraq will do whatever the US and it's allies say, and that includes Turkey. Although that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. By the way, I'm Christian. I am done here, it's useless to use logic and reason on those incapable of individual thought. Both sides have wronged, but you can demonise Arabs or whoever the US tells you to as much as you want.

dayokanu:
@ Blackspade,

Tell me how Israel could have avoided this when they withdrew from gaza and all they had beck was more rockets

Yes, they withdrew. Except they still control the airspace, they still control all sea access, they still control all land access into and out of Gaza. It is impossible to leave Gaza, you will be killed. For what reason? Because Israel wants your land.

We are not talking about Arabs as a whole here, we are talking about Palestinians. Because the Arabs have committed atrocities in the past, it is acceptable for them to be dehumanised right now by Israelis? Should we round up all Germans and imprison them because of their History of Nazism? Should all white people be subjugated because of their former support for the slave trade?

Only fools believe that it is right to judge and persecute a majority for crime a majority committed. The rationale of the uneducated, I suppose.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7578152.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7501538.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3297575.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1740538.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7710566.stm

Be proud, Martian.

This is a thread discussing the Israel situation, however. idiopathic, you complain that Hamas declared Gaza and Islamic State, then the Zionists declared Israel a Jewish state. People like you will be the ones screaming and shouting for the impending ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people.

Israel has been starving and killing Palestinians since 1948. Why shouldn't they fight back, for their people and their land? Israel also continued attacking Gaza during the truce, both sides are to blame for the fighting.

The only civilian deaths caused in Iraq and Afghanistan are by suicide bombers? You must forget that earlier this yeah the US military blew up a funeral procession, killing 70 children. You are biased, horribly.

Maybe, try Travel section.

BecomeRich:
so you want to remain a part of the fulani empire, you do not want to be free, i forgot, you are from the north,

Look at Liberia, Somalia and more recently Afghanistan and Iraq. No thanks, I don't want "liberators" to come to Nigeria.

I don't want any part of Nigeria to become part of the American Empire, no.

There were loads of tribes in Europe, and depending on your definition of tribe, there are still loads.

Nigeria has the largest population, and by extension largest potential military potential and economic (workforce) potential in Africa. Could easily be the "giant".

What's American food? A burger, chips and coke?

UK seems to be in love with Nigeria's bad side suddenly.

Stalin made the USSR a Superpower in 15 years, from being one of the most backwards countries in the world. It's possible to do the same in Nigeria, of course, at a cost.

Ban Pentecostalism.

He's mixed race, and let's see him rule Iraq and Afghanistan.

KB1:
Well, if you think of well documented and proven history as garbage, then that's your prerogative.

Show me the well documented and proven history, and I'll believe you. It is impossible for such testing and tracing to be done, and it hasn't been.

KB1:
African-Americans aka (Akatas) are an estamated 60% Igbo descent.

Garbage.

The USA simply does not want a black African country or Iran to develop, because if they do, they won't be able to tell them what to do, especially since Iran has massive amounts of oil, and the same to a lesser extent in Nigeria.

Christianity began in 0 AD, are you saying everybody who adopted it and threw away their past religions (the entirety of Europe, the Middle East and North Africa did this) have no culture? Is culture only expressed through parades and other such showboating events? That is simply stupid.

bawomolo:
lmao read on the history of japanese imperalism. go ask the koreans or better still ask the chinese about manchuria.  japanese industries were actually bolstered by the US and britain during WWII.

can u please list the "poorer" countries that have coped with nuclear weapons.  nkoreans would be starving to death if no for aid from china. what did libya get from it's nuclear program. nothing.  nuclear energy should be carefully planned.  a country like iran that can implode any day from now is not one we should deal with.

It's very basic knowledge that the US was attempting to steal Japan's economic and trade dominance in Asia away from them, and if Japan had not attacked, they would have been economically bankrupt.

Pakistan has nuclear weapons and is coping well enough. Iran would only implode is countries like the US continue to attack it for no reason other than to expand and sustain world dominance.

bawomolo:
japan wouldn't have been attacked period if it didn't invade pearl harbor, the Philippines and ally with the axis. japan had a chance to surrender and blew it. i doubt south korea are jealous of their starving neighbors to the north. na nuclear weapon naija man go chop?? if some patch patch facility all in the name of being a "nuclear" power is what naija wants, then go for it.

Japan wouldn't have attacked Pearl Harbor if the US was not attempting to cripple it's economy. Nigeria is not attempting to gain nuclear weapons, and even if it was, it would not come at any cost to the civilians, poorer countries than Nigeria have coped with nuclear weapons and technology.

Hip hop is a disgrace to Africans.