₦airaland Forum

ekt_bear:
There is tons of genocide and intolerance in the Old Testament too:

But Christians today don't follow many of those intolerant practices.

Anyway, key point is that everyone has dirty linen in their closet. Let's not condemn the religion because of some offensive snippets in their holy book. Muslims should ignore these snippets and learn to live peacefully with others.

And truth be told, there are plenty of examples of tolerant Muslims. It is only in Northern Nigeria and a few other places where they are so intolerant.

A.D.M.:
I see stupidity knows no bounds. Most comments are good, but I see the ignorance is alive and well. Kenezi, the website you posted is from 1999. Show something from now or recent. I can pull stuff off the web that disproves your nonsense.

BetaThings:
Please explain how these violence that was promoted was carried out in practice. The Qur'an  was revealed to the Prophet and he was charged with explaining it. Please cite instances of how these promoted acts of violence were carried out in order to reap what you must consider bountiful benefits

Female Inferiority
"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)
"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)

So I can do whatever I like with somebody who is mine? can I not?

BetaThings:
Please provide proof for your assertion. I know that the Bible says women should keep quiet in the church and should submit to their husbands in everything

Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

Nigerian Muslims stand apart as the only Muslim public surveyed where views of al Qaeda and bin Laden are, on balance, positive. About half of Muslims in Nigeria express favorable views of the extremist group (49%) and say they have at least some confidence in its leader (48%), while just 34% offer negative opinions of al Qaeda and 40% express little or no confidence in bin Laden.

In their Encyclopedia of Wars,[2]  authors Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod attempt a comprehensive listing of wars in history. They document 1763 wars overall, of which 123 (7%) have been classified to involve a religious conflict. Of these 123, 66 wars have involved Islam.

A 24-hour strike organised by Sunni Muslim clerics is taking place across Pakistan to protest against possible changes to blasphemy laws.

Rallies were staged in Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Peshawar and Quetta after Friday prayers.

The government has distanced itself from a bill to change the law, which carries a mandatory death sentence for anyone who insults Islam.

Rights groups say the law is often used to persecute religious minorities.

The legislation returned to the spotlight in November when a Pakistani Christian woman, Asia Bibi, was sentenced to death.

Although no-one convicted under the law has been executed, more than 30 accused have been killed by lynch mobs.

'Over our dead bodies'

The Pope has led international calls to show mercy on Ms Bibi, who denies insulting the Prophet Muhammad during an argument with other farmhands in a Punjab province village in June 2009.

Friday's strike saw businesses shuttered and transport workers walking out in towns and cities across the country.

There was no public transport in the southern city of Karachi, where demonstrators blocked traffic as part of the industrial action.

The BBC's Ilyas Khan says bus owners in the Sindh province capital may have feared their vehicles could be torched if put on the road.

Quetta, the capital of the southern province of Balochistan, also ground to a halt.

There was a partial shutdown in the national capital of Islamabad, the north-western city of Peshawar and Lahore, capital of Punjab.

One Sunni cleric in Islamabad warned in his Friday sermon that any change to the blasphemy law would happen "over our dead bodies".

The strike was held to protest against a private member's bill submitted to parliament.

It seeks to amend the law by abolishing the death sentence and by strengthening clauses which prevent any chance of a miscarriage of justice.

The bill has been drafted by a member of the ruling Pakistan People's Party and by a former Information Minister, Sherry Rehman.

This led religious groups, who are demanding that Ms Rehman quit, to conclude the government was behind it.

On Wednesday, Pakistan's religious affairs minister told parliament the bill did not reflect government policy.

"I state with full responsibility that the government has no intention to repeal the blasphemy law," Syed Khurshid Shah said.
Pakistani Christians rally for Asia Bibi in Lahore on Christmas Day Pakistani Christians rallied for Asia Bibi in Lahore on Christmas Day

"If someone has brought in a private bill, it has nothing to do with the government."

Federal Law Minister Babar Awan told reporters that Friday's strike was simply the latest attempt to revive a once powerful alliance of religious parties.

The Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal emerged as the third largest vote-winner in the 2002 elections held by the regime of President Pervez Musharraf, but the grouping had broken apart by the time of polls two years ago.

Our correspondent says the government is hoping to placate shrill religious protest at a time when it is in difficulty with two coalition partners.

The Muttahida Qaumi Movement this week withdrew two ministers from the federal cabinet, blaming corruption and rising prices.

The Jamiat-i-Ulema Islam party, a smaller coalition partner, withdrew from the government earlier in December after one of its ministers was sacked.

Many believe the two parties are acting at the behest of the security establishment to undermine the country's political system.

Analysis
Jill McGivering BBC News

Under Pakistan's stringent and controversial blasphemy laws, anyone found guilty of insulting Islam faces the death penalty.

In practice most convictions are overturned on appeal, but these cases often hinge on witness testimony. That fuels concerns that allegations of blasphemy are sometimes dubious, motivated by personal animosity.

There's also concern that the laws can be used to target religious minorities. Human rights groups have called for the laws to be changed after the recent death sentence handed down to a Christian woman.

All this puts Pakistan's coalition government in an extremely difficult position. If it leaves the laws intact, it risks tarnishing the country's image, especially in the West.

It wants to present Pakistan as a modern state which is tolerant and moderate. But if it perseveres with amending the law, the domestic backlash from religious conservatives could be severe.

ROSSIKE:
bisiaet said:

Shut up and grow some brains. While you're at it, start counting the number of muslims massacred around the world in recent years by christian governments.

An educated guess will put the disparity vis a vis lives claimed by muslims, at something like 1000 to 1.

So zip your ridiculous holier than thou trap.

Even today, Iran - a muslim country - is being threatened with annihilation for the 'crime' of wanting to own 1/1000th the nuclear capability of the most powerful christian nation.

That's oppression.

On a macro level, BOTH faiths are SHIIT.