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anonymous6: Look no matter what and how we feel Barack Obama is culturally African American/white American; despite him not being a traditional african american since his father is kenyan and his mother is white americans

Obama succeed where those black american such as jesse jackson failed
There is one reason :obama is not your typical black american and will never be !
Obama was elected not "nominated"by whites , latinos and jews because he got this immigrant mindset that africans do share
Just like America was a magical place for his father in the 60 's ,for black americans ,it was though !whhy ?

anonymous6: True but the only black influence he has had is African American ex. Reverend wright, any way we can't argue with what Obama identifies as which is African American. sometimes the wife has a strong influence in what path or community you assimilate in

Obama can identity himself with martians if he wants
Does it make him a martian ,I don't think so !
Being married to a black american does not make him a black american
You said he was cukturally"AA" and we said hell no !

chic2pimp: I very well understood what u were trying to say.

Obama was not raised and niether was he influenced by the African American Culture.
The only tie that links him back to the African American culture is that of his wife.
His sound upbringing was mainly due to the fact that he was raised by his White Grandparents and the little time he spent in Indonesia.
It has Absolutely nothing to do with the African American Culture.

Thanks ! well said

anonymous6: Yeah it is true he criticize black American men, which Jesse criticized him for but Obama has also criticized his fathers country Kenya, Liberia, Nigeria as well

There 's no comparison
His criticism towards african countries was about politics

anonymous6: Umm I don't think Reverend wanted to kill Obama but he was causing Drama for obama back in 08 and Jesse well I feel a little jealosuy was with him but Jesse has always said back then in 08 that Obama is not the traditional african american

So jesse jackson said obama is not the "traditional AA" just like I'm saying obama ain't the typical black american
ok I'm done LOL

anonymous6: oh ok, I am talking about cultural identification but when I said he isn't culturally Kenyan you seem not to understand what I meant earlier. Any way when it comes to the jesse Jackson vs. Obama fiasco I know what you mean

Obama is a typical white american dude with kenyan blood in him
He has the immigrant mindset that anything is possible in America just like african immigrants
Obama even criticized many times black american male

anonymous6: well he has always said he is from a white American mother and Kenyan father, which will never change but culturally he is African American and white American, and he identifies as a African American regardless even though he is technically Kenyan American by blood and heritage but culturally he is not Kenyan.

Culturally Obama is not "AA" at all , he has a different mindset ,that's why jesse jackson wanted to "kill" him as well as reverend wright

anonymous6: I have heard about this and I don't disagree to a extent but to be culturally something you have to know the culture from language, food, music, customs and traditions, and etc and when it comes to Obama well he has no connection to that when it comes to Kenya. Just because his father is Kenyan and black African doesn't give him a pass to say he is culturally Kenyan.

I never says he has a kenyan culture ,I told you that it was his heritage and that he was very much inspired by his father
This is why he wrote a book about him
Black american like jesse jackson tried to be elected as president ,why do you think he failed ? LOL

anonymous6: I don't think you understand what I am saying, no matter what Obama heritage will be Kenyan and white American but he was never raised in the Kenyan culture, his father was never there. he was raised in the culture and influenced by his country and white side, which is African American and white American. for example Boris Kidjoe has a very similar background to Obama but his cultural identification that he lives 24/7 is not Ghanian.

Nobody told you that he was raised in the kenyan culture ,he was raised by white peep
In his book ,he explained that his father Obama senior paved the path for him ,that why he went to Harvard and his father was a politician

anonymous6: True but his cultural life style he calls himself is African American

once he explained that he was labelled by society as a "black" person not by himself
throughout his campaign he introduced himself as the son a kenyan student and a white women raised by his white grand parents
When he won ,the cameras all around the world showed his african family from kenya since he has no ties with the south in the states