Snowwy:

@Kenya28,
I noticed you no longer responded.
Listen to me, you came here years ago saying you were healed and it was by your faith in Jesus Christ and when you returned again, you said you could not deny you were healed but what you were diagnosed of came back. The next thing you said was you were not healed at all. I will advise you take a position. I decided to engage you strictly based on what you posted. How have all you said to the people that called you names helped you now? Did anyone of them even say a prayer for you?
The same Jesus that you have faith in is the one that you should be talking to now. There is no point trying to hold a grudge or be bitter against anyone because it will not help you and left to me I see no reason to afterall you clearly stated it is Jesus that healed you.

May God's will be done in your life and may His mercy prevail to make you whole indeed. Greetings to your family.

I read everything though. When there is need to post, so I do.

x

Snowwy: @Kenyan 28,
I cannot even begin to imagine the anguish you may be feeling right now. I stumbled on this thread years ago when it was still new and posts here by some people had made me wary though I later came to realise that the posters were people that just had an issue with that church. I do not attend the Christ Embassy church or went to the Healing School but I am usually amazed at the disposition, boldness and always bubbling nature of their members.
I was also amazed at your testimony of healing and I pray the Lord makes you whole, just like the 10 lepers that were healed but only one was made whole.

That said, I was wondering what was going on again on this thread when I saw it was again on the first page so decided to click. I was again surprised at the few comments I could garner sinces you have deleted alot of it.

I decided to go back to your testimony pages to actually get a feel of where all this is coming from.
From pages 18 to about 21 (the few I have been able to be patient enough to review), you clearly stated (based on your quotes) it was Jesus that healed you and the Pastor did not even touch you before you got your healing. You declared you are a woman of faith and all. You said you did a test though some posters advised you to do more than that and you have been symptom free.

Since you said you were clearly healed before any touch and you believed it, that it was Jesus that healed you and faith at work I wonder why it seems you are back with vengeance against the Healing School and Christ Embassy. I can see emotions are high but I think you should go back to those scriptures that made you believe this healing and call on God for explanation.
IS your grouse against the scriptures you believed in, or the fact that you now have issues with the healing school, or that your hopes were raised by your attendance?

I do not know or have any hypothesis on why you or your baby have now been diagnosed again though your husband isnt't but at this point whatever you experienced then can only be explained by you and as such I advise you go back to the 'drawing board' of God's specific word to you and re-claim it.
It is well.

There was no healing at ALL.

mabell: Ricky immediately began chemotherapy sessions which instead of ameliorating his ailment rather worsened the situation.
In desperate need of feeding Ricky( as at this point of time Ricky wanted to eat nothing), the doctors recommended a feeding pump machine through which a special nutritional diet would be pumped into his gastrointestinal stream via tubes into his stomach through his nostrils.

The chemotherapy sessions didn’t help matters rather it worsened the situation.

Lorenzo exclaimed, my whole life is now centered round this cancer. Whether I’m sleeping, eating or working, all I’m thinking is this cancer and hoping that my son will not die.

SOME OF THESE PPLE ARE LONG DEAD AND DIED OF THE SAME AILMENTS THEY CLAIM TO HAVE BEEN "HEALED" IN CE HL

Zodiac61:

I laugh in all Kenyan languages.
Not satisfied with pulling his con tricks on Nigerians, I see that "Pastor" Chris has now recruited a Kenyan to convince us of his voodoo miraculous powers to heal the sick.
@ Kenyan 28
If you really were HIV positive, let me assure you that you are still HIV positive. There is no cure yet, and I can assure you that there has been no authenticated case of cure by prayer of any illness. Even people with faith die of illnesses.
Did you have a medical diagnosis? You are obviously a superstitious person if you went around wearing a magnetic bracelet with infra-red (whatever that is) to protect you from HIV.

SO TRUE, WISH I COULD GO BACK TO THIS DAY AND LISTEN TO U CAREFULLY!

KunleOshob: @ Kenya
I would strongly advise you do an independent test with a reputable hospital, test results from CEC have time and again proven to be false. And pleeeaaaassse DON't stop taking your medication until it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that you are healed. Don't let them deceive you into not taking a confirmatory test in the excuse that you shd "exercise your faith". Of course their ready made excuse when their fake miracles are exposed is that the person didn't exercise enough faith.

So true, wish I heard u.

SirJohn:

@Kenyan28,
can you throw more light on how you got tested after the healing school ministration? I think some folks need to hear that

Al get back shortly with this.

Obypedia: @nuella2
Of-course you are metaphorically a goat-man, that is being led to the slaughter house everyday.
Your pastors make every church service compulsory. (cell meetings, Wednesday service, and Sunday service).
Because of the potential revenue they are going to generate from massive attendance.
Including the daily brainwashing device called Rhapsody of realities. YOU GET CONDEMN IF YOU MISS ANY OF THESE.
This is my experience, and I was forced to confront my pastor, and asked him why the church claims to preach the gospel of Love ,
but, will resort to Doomsday Theology, if they can't extract more money from you.
Just so you guys know, I've been a member of this evil organization for over 12 years. I used to be a cell(shallom, branch withheld) leader as well.
I've worshiped in several christ embassy branches in UK. Barnet, Watford, Luton, Catford, and Edmonton. (depending on the location I was at the time)
A brother in christ embassy Catford headed by pastor chuka, said (in more than one occasion on the pulpit) that "if we believe in him (pastor chris)
His glory will become our glory, his joy becomes our joy". I was not surprised no one confronted him to correct his expressions. Because we all believe that pastor chris is "Jesus in a white suite".
I just want to let you all idol worshipers know that, getting out of this evil and cash-sucking organization is not an option. It is the only way to find out the truth, and bear a personal testimony of Jesus Christ. We don't need another mediator between man and God. Watching the consummate man by pastor chris was the final straw for me, I've had enough.

The same thing here in Kenya, idol worshiping in every Christ Embassy branch. All sermons from all Pastors begin like this "the man of God pastor chris says" heck no!!

The beauty about this thread is that when u search for Christ Embassy Healing school from google, this is what comes 1st....and when u get stuborn like me and proceed to the HL, at least u know somebody warned u.

Glad to have spoken to you @Sir John.

Joagbaje:

Healing can be lost through sin. You have issues with temper. I still remember talking to you those days about the kind of anger you display on this forum insulting those who doubted your healing. Healing can be lost by unchecked sin such as these .

So u want to mean I lost my "healing" because of "tempers" Mr Joagbaje??! Come on go tell that to the birds or get a life!! (unless u quote from the bible where it so says)

Pastor Kun:

I am really glad to hear your husband is not infected. May God grant you and especially your baby true healing and the grace and strength to sustain you through this ordeal.

Thank you so much Pastor Kun. I am sure some day my baby and I will get God's true healing or a cure in Jesus mighty name!
I thank God too for my supportive and prayerful husband who has not changed his feelings towards us even after the news/tragedy.

SORRY I COULDNT STAND A CHURCH WHERE HALF OF THE PREACHING IS "THE MAN OF GOD PASTOR CHRIS SAYS" I want a church where the prechers preaches like this "the Bible or the word of God says" there is a lot of idol worship in CE. U pple behave like Chris is God...heck no!

The latest and good news is that my husband is not infected. U are about to hear CE die-hards call it a miracle.

There is nothing like miracle nor magic here, its called "Discordant" couple. Its explained perfectly by science. Who ever finds it difficult to google, I can do and copy paste here on their behalf and for free.

For any one's information, am not deleting any posts from today henceforth. Let the world know the truth so that the truth can set them free.

treasuredkid: It makes no difference how many times you're prayed for by a Pastor, if you dont act your faith in response to the Word, the problem may show up again. It's therefore important that you know the Word for yourself. Appropriate the Word to your peculiar situation; personalize it in your life and it will prevail...TESTED AND PROVEN!!!

The HIV test kits used in Gauteng Rand burg,were experired, so to speak. There was no healing here.

Joagbaje:



Your still a baby christian . ( not insult but observation). What has 10 commandment got to do with this. What kind of church do you attend? The problem is getting clearer now. .

ha ha ha ha ha ha hu hu which baby are u talking about here??! Am 30 years and my christianity is as old as I am. I am born and bred in Christianity, born again parents,prayerful etc. I was in church as long as I can remember.
I wish I obeyed my church pastor when he insisted I go for several tests after I left the healing school and told him the "testimony"

""""It's not the feeling of anger I'm addressing, it's the display of your anger I'm talking This is one of the reason certain people are told to attend a christ embassy church for at least a month after healing school. To build their faith more before going back to their churches"""""



SORRY I COULDNT STAND A CHURCH WHERE HALF OF THE PREACHING IS "THE MAN OF GOD PASTOR CHRIS SAYS" I want a church where the prechers preaches like this "the Bible or the word of God says" there is a lot of idol worship in CE. U pple behave like Chris is God...heck no!

Joagbaje:

You cannot be wishing another person. Evil just because you failed to keep yours. What about the thousands that have been healed for years . What about those who got miracle baby without medicine.

A couple from Canada ,wife had no uterus ,got pregnant and gave bith is that palabo illusion?

EVEN HERE IN KENYA WE HAVE MAGICIANS USING WITCHCRAFT TO GIVE BABIES,LATER ON THE BABIES TURN OUT TO DEVILS. Another baby was noticed changing fron an infant to a giant and eating all edibles in the house, then turn back to a baby after sometime.
Having a baby without a uterus is magic not miracle for God created the uterus to hold the foetus. Its like telling me that somebody is seeing with their hands instead of the eyes. Wake up from this dream plz Pastor Joagbage!

nuella2: Who tested the woman with the issue of blood DAvid the scientist. What is the proof that she was.healed. How many times did she test. You guys are hypocrites, some of you would have stoned Jesus. Someone is saying she was healed. You are doubting it and talking about a failed.test. How did you know Naaman was healed?

I know of the man who was born blind who got his sight and saw for the rest of his life.(John 9:1-12)(he could see, that was the test) and no record in the bible that he ever went blind again.

Joagbaje:

You cannot be wishing another person. Evil just because you failed to keep yours. What about the thousands that have been healed for years . What about those who got miracle baby without medicine.

A couple from Canada ,wife had no uterus ,got pregnant and gave bith is that palabo illusion?

AM NOT WISHING ANY ONE ANYTHING,THE GOODNESS IS, AL BE HERE TO REPORT ALL CASES. WHETHER I WISH OR NOT, it cant change anything.

Joagbaje:

You don't want to talk about a woman who's pain and evidence of cancer had disssapeard but you want to dwell on those you claim lost their healing . That's dishonest .

WHY SHUD I TALK ABOUT A WOMAN I DO NOT KNOW MUCH(av met her only 2 times) YET MY CASE IS HERE?? TALK ABOUT ME AND THE PPLE THAT ARE WELL KNOWN TO ME. All I know about her is she never went for check up again after HL thats what she told me.

I do not know about the canadian couple, but my case and the pple av mentioned above.
There is nothing like loosing healing here, for it wasnt there in the 1st place.

Again, months later after I left the healing school, my testimony got a friend of mine who lives in Canada to the HL. She flew all the way to SA HL but her status never changed. instead when she assumed she was healed and stoped ARVs, her viral Load rose from undetectable to 350,000 copies. She would be dead now if she continued the assumption. She is back to her ARVs. Plz explain that.

Last year again, another one who has/had HIV and cervical cancer went to the healing school. She was lucky to meet pastor Chris twice for she got close to one of the workers at the HL who attended the pastors confrence and was also at the healing line.
SHE NEVER EVER TURNED -VE for HIV, and has all the symptoms for the 2 diseases. The bad thing is the HL is still fresh in her mind and blinded her from seeing.
Again, al be here to tell her progress. She knows my case now, shocked.
I SHUD THANK GOD MINE IS JUST HIV but not the fast killer disease called cancer. I can assure u that I will be around for the next 60 years or more.

Again @Joag,I told u earlier and repeat that that lady has never gone back for medical check up after the HL session infact, she assumes she is healed. and like I said, al be here to tell when she dies of the same coz it wont take long.



Again, I cant remember telling any one I went to the same doctors who had tested me in Kenya. I did my test at Randburg,SA which was -ve. Infact I remember very well the white ladies at the clinic didnt want to hear about pastor Chris or the healing school, they said it was a lie and I should go for a repeat test after 2 months which I never did (ooh how I wish I did).

I have a very big feeling that the kit that was used was faulty or expired. Like someone earlier said, someone can be symptom free even when they still have the virus, I have enough experience now of 11 good yrs.


I cant imagine I said this two years ago....this is the truth of the whole matter.

Joagbaje:

Healing can be lost through sin. You have issues with temper. I still remember talking to you those days about the kind of anger you display on this forum insulting those who doubted your healing. Healing can be lost by unchecked sin such as these .you ought to humble yourself to be helped. What you needed to do is to have seen a minister to help you deal with It . I would have ministered to you on you on the phone but i felt one on one would be quicker I made arrangement for you to see the Kenya pastor ,you agreed but didnt show up,

Drugs can't solve your problem. , but you were sure you were healed. I called you that time not to give false testimony. how could symptoms of HIV cease and medical test fom he same hospital where you once tested positive change . Even if your healing was based on Sirjohn palabo effect or whatever ,it will not escape medical test. What is the church gain here. You didn't pay for the healing. Church didn't use your case for "advert" what is the church gain. You are the one who use your mouth to come tell us here you were healed. You even gave your Dr your Nairaland password to testify here.

It's your responsibility to keep your healing . You were taught in the healing school how to maintain healing. You were told counter attack may happen based on bible principle .

These are one of the reason healing may be lost.

John 5:14
Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.


Matthew 12:43-45
When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

but it's not a death sentence. It's a fight of faith. I have dealt with it in my health and others too. There is no healing ministry such things may not happen. Instead of playing hero to doubters here you had better save your health.When you are through playing hero here,everybody will go home but you're left with what you're left with. If you enjoyed heal from 8year long HIV and symptoms suddenly stop for over a year. Medical record shows you clean, your doctors were surprised, YOU WERE HEALED BY JESUS. The healing is still in you . You only need to stir it up by faith. Remember your lady friend is still enjoying her healing from stomach cancer. You told me she is even interceding for you but you seem to have lost your faith. How can prayer work.

Drugs are working perfectly for my baby, infact before she was introduced, she had pneumonias on and off, fever etc. Medicine is also from God. That lady who claims to be healed of stomach cancer TOO refused to meet me just like the CE pastor did. She claims to be praying for us on fone,how?
Anger is not sinning, as long as I dont take a day with it.I cant remember breaking any of the 10 commandments. I cant remember fonicating,comming adultery,killing, idol worshiping(like u do to Chris Pastor) etc....Which sin did I commit

Again, I said and repeat, am not seeing any pastor from CE either here or elsewhere.

And stop dwelling on this woman alone, EXPLAIN THE DEATH OF THE 4 WOMEN I TOLD U. 1 from Capetown(SA), another one from Ghana, another one from Kenya and the 4th from Norway all that I got to know from the healing school who died of Cancers.

I cant remember u warning me against being bitter in any of our conversations, infact what I can remember is u calling me in the middle of the night where I had to switch off my phone to avoid disturbances. And I have all the reasons to be bitter.

nuclearboy: Kenyan28:

Please help others who may enter the position you are in tomorrow!

Tell your story! That way, anyone who feels better after the excitement and pep-talks of a healing session will at least be sure to take tests that will confirm whether indeed they received healing or not!

This issue regardless what the CEC crowd believe, is NOT about discrediting the already discredited yaks-yaps though that seems to have occured! Its about protecting lives like the little baby now suffering because the mother got excited (and suspended reaso) and because someone "sold" her empty air and called it "healing"

I have told my story clearly. That the "healing", if any, from CE is short lived and many have died of the same diseases.

Joagbaje: @ Kenya 28
Pls let's deal with fact . I know you're angry . But you're still a christian. How long has this woman been healed of cancer . 1 year 2 years. 3 years? Pls be honest

Nonesence, u should be asking how long it took me to find out that HIV had not gone anywhere from my system not about other pple's "miracle" which am not sure that they even got.
Good enough I'll be here to tell when they die of the same.
Again, explain about the 4 dead women I have talked about earlier who thot they got the miracle from the so called healing school.

SirJohn: @Kenyan28 may I ask that you stop deleting your posts, please
I'm still waiting for your mail

av written 2 u.

SirJohn:


Wow! I'm yet to see the mail kindly resend it to johnybeks@gmail.com

I will re-write to you before long.

SirJohn: @Kenyan28 may I ask that you stop deleting your posts, please
I'm still waiting for your mail

There is no difference when I delete or not since pple have the messages in their quotes.

SirJohn: @Kenyan28 may I ask that you stop deleting your posts, please
I'm still waiting for your mail

Check your inbox sirjohn24@yahoo.com. I sent u an email 3 hrs ago.

nuella2: Is not about christ embassy. I watch emmanuel tv and everytime someone get healed they tell the person to make the word of God the standard of life. Any pastor that pray for the sick will always admonish the person to be full of the fire of God and stay
out of sin. Its not terms and conditions in christ embassy its Gods word.

What u call counter attack is what the doctors call "denial"