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WinsomeX: Thank you Kenysn28, I have no further questions.

Is it possible for you to provide us with the name of that herbal drugs you've been using that seems to be very effective in reducing your viral load? Pls provide us the name, manufacturers and the means with which Nigerians living with HIV could purchase it for themselves. That should be the positive result of this thread, outside the fact that CE HS is fraud.

Thank you very much.

There are several but I take Revivo on and off. I also take Baariz from Pakistan. Kindly Google the names you will get the manufacturers and suppliers. Thank you.

dorox: It woud be very interesting to know how the likes of joagbage will respond to kenyan28 now that she has retracted her earlier claim of being miraculously healed of HIV.

I wasn't healed, but fooled.

Just to add on to these, my 2 friends heard my testimony that took them to the same healing school and NONE OF THEM ever turned negative at any given day. They are still very positive and struggling with the condition. Like I said earlier, the 4 cancer friends/patients that I met there, took their contacts and communicated later, are all dead. May their souls RIP

WinsomeX: @Kenyan28, I have a few questions too pls, if you do not mind answering them.

When SirJohn asked you, at the beginning of this interview, today, whether you were negative before going to the healings school, you said "kinda symptom free" Please what do you mean by this statement: "kinda..."

2. Where you referred to the hospital for the test before Pastor Chris prayed for you by the CE people (where you first confirmed your negative result) and after the prayer and "healing", did you return to the same hospital to confirm?

3. Lastly for now, you said Pastor Chris did not pray for you but you only received your healing by faith in the earlier posts years back; why now do you say he prayed for you?

Forgive the many questions, its all for the sake of clarity.

Thanks.

I wish to respond to your many questions.
1."Kinda" When I said I was kinda symptom free, I meant that I didnt have any visible symptoms of an HIV infected person. Rem I said I have been on herbs on and off. In Kenya we have herbs that raise the CD4 count and reduce the viral load to the level of undetectable. This time at undetectable, one is symptom free.
2.I was referred to the hospital that I did my test but was literally taken there by a woman/my host who was a volunteer at the HS. She was working for the HS and was close to the staff there. This test was done in readiness for my 1st interview at the healing school. Rem like I said, I did not have a medical report that said I was positive coz I did not want to carry it with me as I traveled for obvious reasons.2 weeks later, Pr Chris Ministered to me, I didnt go back for any other test until more than 2 years later when my baby was discovered to have HIV-right?

3. There was no healing at all. I suspect the kit was faulty. I remember the nurses insisting that I should go for another test after 2 months which I never did.(regrets) On my interview date, and irregardless of the -ve result that I had, I was instructed to say I was still +ve for recording purposes. I was hesitant but was convinced to. Rem this was my 8th day at the healing school. 2 weeks later, I was in the list of the healing line. Pastor Chris Ministered to me, ...oh my the "falling down" was acted, nothing moved me to fall, I just fell coz the rest did. I was very careful on where to land though, lest I hurt myself! lol

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To add on to this, my 4 cancer patients that we met at the healing school are all long dead.

SirJohn: Tell us @Kenyan28, how are you doing now since you found out about the sham called 'the Healing School'?, how is your daughter? how have you been faring?

Whaat! I almost died 3 weeks ago when my CD4 cells count went up to 375, was attacked by herpes zoster rash, I was in a lot of pain. I gave up and was introduced to ART but couldn't stand the side effects, the bloating, nausea, fatigue, vomiting, head ache etc.I dropped the ARVs on the forth day. I decided to go back to my herbs. I have taken my herbs for a week now and I can say I am better.
My baby was started on ARVs at the age of 7 months + herbs. She is now virus free like I said earlier.

SirJohn: Have you watched the video clip of your testimony? how do you know it was aired? where was it aired?

I have not watched it personally but one morning while I was at work, Pr. Theo, CE Pastor assigned to Kenya called me about it. He wanted me to watch as it was being aired.

SirJohn: interesting! Who instructed you? the camera crew? a pastor or healing school staff? tell us please

Sir John, It was the camera crew plus the staff who took me to the interview room.

SirJohn: @Kenyan28,
I want to understand , what exactly did the healing school tell you when you brought a report that said negative instead of positive before ever you were admitted into the school?

Pastor Austine Olumese was our group leader, he took the results to a certain mama who works closely with Pr Chris, they kept it until the following day.again, since my results where negative and I had no +ve report to show, I was instructed at the interview to say that I was still +ve

SirJohn: So when and where did you finally find out you were still positive?

I never did any other test until when my baby was tested positive after several hospital admissions for opportunistic infections. This was sometime in October 2012.

SirJohn: So what you are saying is that they got a negative result from you but proceeded to put you in the healing line and instructed you to say that you were negative after Chris had prayed for you. Is that correct?

Yes, Sir John. That is exactly what they did.

SirJohn: Hmm, so tell us, how were you ministered to at the healing school? Did Pastor Chris lay hands on you?

Yes he did minister to me BUT 2(two) weeks after I had presented my "negative" report to the healing school. The healing school team instructed me to say/testify that I got "negative" after Pr. Chris ministered to me which was total Lie. I understand my "testimony" has been aired at least twice!

SirJohn: Have you ever stayed this long without symptoms before the healing School? please be very honest

Sir John, which part don't u understand? I have said before that the herbs that I took kept me symptom free. In late 2005 and early 2006, I took herbs for only 4 months and stopped but I was symptom free for 2 years or more.

SirJohn: So for how long after the result did you stay symptom free?

If I can remember very well, it was until June of 2011 when all the symptoms were back and since I was expectant of my baby, I assumed it was the weakness that comes about with pregnancy. I left the healing school in April 2010.

SirJohn: Really! So at what point and where did you do the test that showed you were negative?

Like I said earlier, I did not have a medical report that said I was Positive. I was so scared my hubby(fiance then) and parents would find it as they escorted me to the airport. As u know and mentioned, its a requirement to have a medical report before admission to the healing school. 2 days to my interview date I got a text that I was required to have a medical report that said I was positive.I requested my host, who was working at the HS to take me to a VCT center for the test. I went, did a test that showed "negative". I can bet this is where my "negative" results were baked.

SirJohn: Okay, Was there any period of time within this 8 years that you lived free of symptoms of the virus before your visit to healing school?

Oh yes, like I said earlier in this thread, I took herbs that boosted my CD4 cells, reducing the viral load. For instance in 2005, I took herbs that kept me symptom free for close to 2 years. Infact the time I went to the healing school I was kinda symptom free.

SirJohn: For how long did you know you had the virus before deciding to go to the healing school in south Africa?

I had known for 8 years.

Go ahead and ask, I do not mind at all.

SirJohn: Do you mind if I ask you some questions about your experience at the healing school in 2010?

SirJohn: @Kenyan28, Do you mind if I ask you certain Questions just to clear the air on some issues?

Not at all Sir John, go ahead and ask.

SirJohn: Hello Kenyan28, Glad to have you back. You've been at the centre of some friction lately

Hi Sir John, I am here still following. What about me again?

I am still following this thread very keenly

Candour: This thread by Sirjohn introduced me to nairaland

I read every single post and came to understand the mindset of a lot of nairalanders.

God bless you Kenyan. He'll surely perfect that which concerns you as you've decided to put your trust in him alone. Hoping to hear more good news from you.

God bless you and your family

Amen!

Pastor Kun: To God be the glory, I rejoice with you my sister. Your healing would also be confirmed in Jesus name.

Amen!

I said I would come back here with good news, a negative report, and here I am with one, at least for my daughter who is close to 2 years now. Medication has worked on her and I thank God for this perfect gift of mine from heaven. In fact since May she was well with no virus detected in her blood and confirmed many other times. Glory to God. Am working on mine now and.....again some day al have good news. For those who doubt, check on how oxygen works in the body!

What happened?

davidylan: You may or may not come back with a negative report... it does not mean God has not forgiven you or does not love you. It may just be a cross you will have to bear for good.

Continue doubting, but watch this space.

The burden or carrying the charlatan's books hanging over my shoulder every other day is over. No more rhapsodies now. The Holy Bible is my life forever.

Pastor Kun: For both you and your baby in Jesus name. Amen

Yap, in Jesus name. I am sure al come back here with -ve medical report sometime.

I am killing the virus day by day.

dolwell@yahoo:
s @sir John I know u are always quick to respond but I love d way omo pastor ans you. I have read through this thread, I will comment only once and never again because you will always hold on to your points. You have no solution to peoples health problem, if u know so much like u claim to know about God, why did you go to the HS of CE in d first place. I also know that you are desperately looking for people like kenyan28 to support and purge your conscience for this evil thread you started here. It is not about d truth for you, it is about winning. But you cannot fight God, d healing school is still going on, people are still being healed call me names if you like but YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS CANNOT STOP IT. Sefini Have a nice day

Don't quote my names anyhow. I have eyes to see on my own.

Snowwy: @Kenyan,
Please do not stop believing in the healing power, Christ through His stripes, gave to you. As you once said, by His stripes you were healed. He Himself took up our infirmity and carried our diseases.
No man can heal you except God and that you know.

That is the reason why I was wondering why you were changing what you believe based on those words you once spoke.
I pray you receive the healing that is yours and Jesus Christ will further make you whole.

On another note, I have long read that coconut oil has great anti-viral effects especially against HIV. It will be nice if you read more about it online and apply it if you decide to.
Cheers.

Thanks for the advice. I will do anything to make sure that my baby is well and in good health.