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How has been everyone?

It's been eons since I logged into this forumn.


I am well. I am well kept.


I thank God.

This must be the latest gibberish from this b*****! HS my foot! NKT!

Joagbaje:
Healing school is going on in lagos . Just simply take a sick person there and find out for yourself not by other men story. I have 3 people there . One has complete miracle already without pastor chris praying for them yet. Just by the teaching in the classes and prayers of faith . The other who's husband had stroke and mental challenge for 2 years called yesterday . His mind is restored already . He's beginning to walk far better . Pastor chris has not laid hands on them yet . Many are healed .

Hi every one?
Did I just bump this post? Yes I did.

Hey people?
Long time.

How is every one?

What happened to every one?

FOLLOWING

SirJohn:
Wow this is sad news, I remember her story very well; I remember back in 2012 Joagbaje kept taunting you with her case and bragged that she was healed.





I also remember scolding him for being insensitive about what had happened to you



I also remember your response to him about the lady which sadly has come to pass




My sincere condolences to the dead but please @kenyan28 can you tell us how you came about this information.
Thanks

I got a message on 3rd of Jan 2015 from her daughter using her late mothers phone number. I think she sent the message to all the contacts in the phone. I later called back for clarification.

I am here and like I promised, to report another failed miracle. Pastor Joags last "miracle" is no more. You remember that woman who visited the HS in SA before me. That one who has been claiming to have been healed of stomach cancer? The one just like me who refused to go for a check up after HS? Yes that one. She passed on yesterday the 2nd of Jan 2015 of the same same cancer. May her soul RIP. Detail on Monday.

Bidam:
What i am saying is that we have over 300 tribes in Nigeria yet nobody flaunts it here since it is a public forum. To avoid confusing and misleading folks here, let's use a common language which is english for proper dissemination of information. If you are a christian, there is no jew, greek nor gentile in Christ. I am first and foremost a christian not a nigerian.God bless you do so.

The language that we are talking does not belong to any of the 42 tribes we have in Kenya. This is Swahili, international, mostly spoken in East Africa.
U can always Google Search for translation.

vooks:
kabisa dada.

Ubarikiwe hadi ushangae

Asante sana, jioni njema.
Wachana na huyo fala hapo chini, shida yake haelewi.
What tribe is he talking about? We have 42 tribes in Kenya.

vooks:
Me ni mtu wa mtaa kaa wewe. Hawa wa-Naija si wana drama!
Otherwise uko freshi lakini?


PS: Ukipata mukwanja, si unisambazie ngiri kadhaa

Vooks kumbe wewe ni wetu huku Kenya?
Wacha tu hawa watu wana vituko mob.
Niliona kwa group ingine ya FB, eti "if you think the devil is a liar, then you have not met a Nigerian man" Gosh, hope hawataniletea drama na video!
Ntakusambazia kabisa, wacha nione huyu Joe kama atazitoa kwanza.

Adhuhuri njema ndugu yangu!

vooks:
Mshow unataka dough ...500K

Wah! Wah! that's language is called sheng in my country.

Nishaa mshow mara mob atumie Sir John dough zake 500k ndio anigawie zangu niende zangu! lol

I wish Pastor Joe Agbaje a happy birthday today.

Many more returns of the day.

SirJohn:
I know that some of you reading this right now know the genesis of what is about to follow. For others, you may need a little trip down memory lane so that the motive behind this thread will be clearly understood.

I want to state that my main purpose of publishing the result of this investigation is solely borne out of the deep sense of responsibility that I owe posterity. I do not believe in pulling down another man just for the sake of winning an argument so I have spoken with Joagbaje to tow the path of honour and apologize for publishing a false testimony and explain his role in the whole mess.
I believe he has already retraced his steps as he has already removed the link to the video previously attached to his signature in his NL profile.

Now to the main story;

It all started from this thread www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school on Christ Embassy Healing School thread that I opened 6 years ago in November 2008, Joagbaje who I later knew to be a pastor in Christ Embassy church was a regular visitor on that thread and was constantly in defense of Pastor Chris and the Christ Embassy Church.
In April 2010, a young lady from Kenya (@kenyan28) also a nairalander came on that thread and claimed she was healed of HIV at the Christ embassy healing school in Randburg South Africa. Many of us warned her to be careful and make sure she does a follow up test to really confirm that she was free of the HIV virus. These warnings fell on deaf ears but rather what we got back were insults from her and her Christ embassy supporters.

In 2012, the same lady came back on the same thread to say that her new born baby has tested HIV positive and that she also tested positive herself confirming our initial fears. She would later go on to reveal some other facts that confirmed that she was never healed at the healing school in the first place. She has since moved on and is living a healthy and happy life with her family after she later explored various medical and herbal treatments for herself and her daughter.

In September this year, the healing school thread came on the front page of Nairaland again after some years of calmness. The Kenyan 28 issue was again hotly debated, words were again exchanged, claims and counter claims again erupted. Around this time, Joagbaje had been making claims of traveling to Tanzania to heal a man who had the Ebola disease, he also claimed he healed a man of HIV in one of his meetings; he posted a link to the video and gave the man’s name and cell phone number and dared anyone to prove that the healing was ‘fake’.

In several of his posts, Joagbaje goaded, taunted and challenged me to investigate and prove his story was a lie, he called it an ‘open challenge’ and even said he would give me half a million Naira if I was able to do it.

Here are some of his posts:













In late September 2014, I decided to go all in and investigate the healing claim published by Joagabje in this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b01qsooOYs


Please stay tuned for more shocking details from the investigation

U must share the 500k lol

vooks:
Enda church

Lol Nilienda church jana.

KingMswati:
Sir John, remember me in your kingdom o! #500k

Mr Jo must pay this money, I need some too.

vooks:
Boss13,
Consider these facts before 'debunking' another testimony. The only worse thing than a charlatan is a careless skeptic who won't be confused with facts;

1. It is perfectly normal for a church co-worker to be prayed for,to recieve healing and to testify. It is also quite possible that the joy joined ushering AFTER the said miracle. So what he does at that church does not tell you nothing.bthat said, I posted a video of a pastor who used his co-workers to air false testimonies,sing in the choir, recieve calls and extort money....

2. Asthmatics don't display ALL those symptoms at once and if they did, some would not be easily picked from a video. Besides, asthma has degrees. Any medics in the house?

3. So he gets prayed for after testifying? This may be your only smoking gun. You just don't have enough to run with it. What I have observed is the immense pressure to 'believe God and deny doctors' report' such that sick folks abandon drugs BEFORE they are healed as a 'sign of faith',confess they are healed BEFORE they are healed apparently to draw healing virtue, and pretend the obvious symptoms of their ailments are not there especially where it is not too dangerous to do so. Anything short of this is 'lack of faith' which is a stigma. May be the dude did just that. Be as it may, if he felt well after prayers enough to testify and Joagbaje perceives he is still not fully recovered, where is the problem?

I had not watched the Jeff miracle video,but even the blind can see that those are two different pple .

nora544:
https://www.nairaland.com/1881318/joagbaje-right-ebola-jesus-cure

read this because the orginal post was deleted when joagbaye want to show us that he could heal Ebola

Tanzania is only 4 hours drive from where I sit. This one......a story for another day. But as far as I know, there has not been an ebola case in the said country.

...

PastorAIO:
Well, you know that some kinds of people like to be promiscuous and that in so being they have a high risk of catching std. If you offer firstfruits the good lord will turn a blind eye to your promiscuity and absolve you of all std. But if you should fail at any juncture, then the full wrath of the good lawd will descend upon thee.

std like HIV have nothing to do with lifestyle and sexual patterns but everything to do with first fruits.

sighh...Lord have mercy! Which novel are u reading?

So the Kenyan girl is here with 9 pages to read? I blame it on 3 pple who have my contacts but didnt alert me Joag,Sirjohn and Gombs. Anyway, isokei.

SirJohn:
Update: Following my decision to take up Joagbaje's challenge to investigate and debunk his bogus claim of HIV cure in one of his church meetings, I wish to announce that my investigation is nearly complete and will be published on a new thread very soon.

Watch out for this new thread coming up soon...

Its gonna be hot here for Mr. Jo!

Just passing by.

Paul is now in hospital after two weeks at the healing school
Tuesday April 8, 2008

A wife who is desperate to see her husband healed spent the whole of yesterday at the Christ Embassy Church in Randburg, Johannesburg, just to see whether other people would be healed by Pastor Chris Oyakhilome.

This after her husband Paul Sambo had attended the church’s school of healing for about two weeks but was told he would not pass because he slept in class.

Sambo was diagnosed with spine cancer in February this year.
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A relative who did not wish to be named said Sambo felt helpless after he was diagnosed with cancer.

“He had hoped that the ‘Night of Bliss’ would give him a new life. Now he just seems confused,” she said.

Pastor Chris hosted Night of Bliss, an all-night prayer meeting at the Johannesburg Stadium two weeks ago.

Though Sambo seemed keen to speak to Sowetan when we visited him at the Chris Hani-Baragwanath Hospital in Soweto yesterday, he seemed a little confused.

His wife Julie told Sowetan that her husband had now lost hope of getting healed.

“My husband had hopes of getting healed one day but not any more.” she said.

“The ‘Night of Bliss’ did not help my husband in any way.”

Sambo’s story comes after Friday’s article about a man who told Sowetan that he had been promised R10000 to pretend he was wheelchair-bound.

He would then receive Pastor Chris’ healing on the Night of Bliss.

According to the man he was to sit in a wheelchair and pretend he was paralysed until Pastor Chris came up to pray for him.

Then he would jump up and walk.

The man said he refused because he had faith in God and God alone.

There were also allegations that all the people that were healed at the seminar were hired by the church. The man said the church did this to draw crowds.

I rest my case.

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zleemshaddy:
n hw'z daht ur bizness ehnn o.O

I just tire. I thought the "X" for "S" was a disease with only our Kenyan teenagers o?

zleemshaddy:
alrt herez waht i can say wit ma undastandin, dere ix a sayin 'a gud tree cant bring up bad fruits' nw abt d killin of d babies, wen GOD say kill all both d babies, d whole city ix polluted wit sin, n in d bible alxo cnt rememba d exact chapter, u knw d world ix already filled wit sin n d bible sed we shuldnt conform wit sin, n we're all born into a world already filled wit sin,xo dahtz all i can say

"x" for "s" pisses me off! How old are u again?

Book marking to read the 33 pages later. Where have I been for heaven's sake?

@Sir John/Joag, I request that you Whatsapp me whenever I'm mentioned...so as I do not have too many pages to read at once.

SirJohn:
I feel your frustration kiddo, you probably thought you'd be the hero who trashed those who dared to speak out about the hidden lies in the Christ Embassy Healing School. You met a brick wall and of course you had to fight dirty. Oh so now its her lifestyle wonders shall never end. It moved from 'oh she didn't have faith' to 'oh she has anger problems' to 'oh shes a slut'
y'all can take your jabs at her one by one, but you can't kill her spirit just like they couldn't kill mine.

Contrary to your failed theology, nothing worse has come on @Kenyan28, She looks healthy and pretty I'm sure maybe healthier than some of you put together (you can ask Joagbaje) shes has a happy family and her daughter is doing just fine.

Hopefully soon, very soon, she may cease to be the topic of discussion here

So true.

LambanoPeace:
, no wonder she deleted her posts

Oh yeah, I deleted what was not true about my "healing" but the truth is here, NOT DELETED AT ALL.
Don't worry about what was deleted, the truth in my recent comments will be here to remain.

If you have decency and the fear of God in you, albeit doubtful you do,
it would be honorable of you, to provide the link and/or quote verbatim where "[i]medical science has replaced the name of Jesus to the