Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 6:19pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: That instruction was given to Moshe, inspired by YAH for the benefit of the Israelites and to the detriment of women not found being a virgin on their wedding night
"You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."" - Exodus 20:17
You have no idea what true and pure religion, one that God finds no fault in. True and pure religion is not organised by man, so stop deceiving yourself.
You are a spiritist and not a spiritual person who tries to study and understand the scripture. You are doing lip service to believing that the Bible is a teaching tool for man not an idol to be worshipped.
Your ashkenazi Jews thieving brothers in crime has violated the 10th commandment, they have thieved the land of Israel, then you and them have jointly stolen the identity of true born real McCoy Israelites You are very stubborn and a liar as well. You have the nerve to call those identity thieves in a fake land that doesn't exist my brothers and you know I don't condone them. You and your hypocrisy is over the top. Don't preach to me about the scriptures when you are doing everything the scriptures teaches against like baring false witness against (lying) me, calling me a spiritist when I TOLD YOU I Am A SPIRITUAL. Everything about you is sinister. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 6:00pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Acehart my brother, it takes clout for Maximus69 to come out and publicly admit to a past deed. He clearly is a changed man from way back then, and as since made peace with His Maker.
Now, no one has condoned rape of any sort here on the thread, certainly not Maximus69 nor I, but for someone like khia, to be casting the first stone, and be forming holier than thou and I am holy pass you, is just taking the biscuit. Who is she to curse/condemn whom God has not cursed/condemned. The guy is a new creation, old things have passed away. All things about him have become new.
Maximus69, did not shared that past of him to gloat or to glorify that dastardly moment of weakness act(s), he was trying to make a point that went the wrong way and gave misleading perceptions. At every point, I confronted him, but you can see, he never gave me face or a response
The bible tells us no sin, is greater than another sin, that sin is sin, so who does khia think she is, to be wriggling in the dagger into Maximus69
khia is AA, whose partner is Ndigbo. She is a strong originally African woman, who gives as good as she takes, she isn't a push over. She is no emotional wreck. She can look after herself, only that she is just a hypocritical, confused of her ancestral roots sanctimonious black racist Israelite wannabe. I owe her and nobagger apologies.
Good riddance to bad rubbish, I'll say. Mtcheew  1. You don't know who my partner is so stop making up lies. 2. Asking Maximus questions about his atonement isn't judging him nor casting stones at him, like I said before you lack comprehensive skills. 3. You are the one confused about my ancestral roots, I know who I am. 4. It's ok for you to confront Maximus with your questions but when I do the same I am judgemental and hypocritical. Who's the hypocrite here?  5. Isn't it a sin for you to judge me and make false accusations against me that I am a black racist Israelite, something you could not know about me unless I told you? Who's the hypocrite again? That's why it's good to ask a person questions to find out what you want to know about them as you and I were asking Maximus. 6. You are the one behaving like a bad santimonius piece of rubbish again as you did prior with Donnie and I because our opinions are different than yours. Instead of understanding another's point of view you want to shove your opinions down our throats. That is why I ask questions with no judgements just curious to know the other's point of view. I had a right to ask Maximus questions just like he had a right not to reply. This is a discussion, that is why the topic was created. 7. Good Riddance to you as well. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 5:24pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: But the same YAH law says we (who are also sinners) should stone you to death if you're caught!  That was another law created by men not Yah. I'm not a Bible thumping religion head because I know religion is organized by man. I'm a spiritual person who trys to study and understand the scripture. I believe the Bible is a teaching tool for man not an idol to be worshipped. I don't believe every word or action in the Bible was written or inspired by Yah, that is why it is important to study. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 12:28pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: I believe an abomination to God takes precedence to thats to a woman, to you or even to me. What's an abomination to a woman, to you or even to me doesnt count in face of whats an abomination to God. You surely are at least guilty of one from that list of the seven, that are whats an abomination to God Men are raped as well, is that an abomination to a man's body? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 12:22pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: Remind her that if she had had sex with a man she's not married to before she got married, by now she should be six feet below because the laws asked us to stone her to death!  That would be something I did to myself not to another human being. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 12:20pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: The presence of mitigating circumstantial evidence(s) can reduce the punishment imposed for the offense, if it doesnt exonerate an individual
"16There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood, 18A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that run rapidly to evil, 19A false witness who utters lies, And one who spreads strife among brothers." - Proverbs 6:16-19
List of what is an abomination to God, right there in Proverbs 6:16-19 I believe I said an abomination to a woman. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 11:29am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Acehart: I agree with you that rape is a heinous crime. My message wasn’t about my roommate; my message was concerning Sarah. After that incident, my roommate found it difficult to stay with me; I continued to stay in our apartment because there was no other place to go; Sarah knew my constraint and wasn’t bothered; as long as she didn’t come to visit me, she was fine. Did I love her? Yes! Should I have reported him to the police? Maybe, but I didn’t do so.
Khia, you are not harsh. But the danger in judging people personally comes when we don’t know when to stop; so, it’s better not to start at all.
Should the criminal be castrated, imprisoned, fined or killed? Let the justice system decide. However, let the victims take the initiative to forgive their attackers. If judgment were to be rendered to all of us, the earth would be but a few people; in everyone’s lineage has existed murderers or accomplices in murder - this should be our tenderness.
Forgiveness is usually the best option for the victim and every means of achieving it should be sort. Stating that rape is an abomination and the savage should be prosecuted under the law is not judging someone. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 11:19am On Jun 10, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 10:58am On Jun 10, 2020 |
jimyjames: Why not settle with the judgment of your God YAH rapist should be forced to marry their victims  That is from the law of men. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 10:55am On Jun 10, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 10:50am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Acehart: Stop it! What’s wrong with you.
About a little over a decade ago, my roommate raped my girlfriend. I didn’t know until a few weeks later. We spoke about it; and she decided to forgive him; we also decided not to surrender our peace of mind to her attacker. We indeed forgave him and our love for each other soared after that event. Maybe she would have been devastated if she didn’t have someone who loved her in spite of the incident in which her virginity was taken away from her. I continued staying with my roommate for several months; and we never spoke about it.
Sarah died a few years later; but I am glad she passed away without remembering the pain that was inflicted on her.
Love covers an ocean of sin. What you did was leave it open for your savage roommate to go out and rape other women. No man who truly loves a woman could continue to live with a man who treated the love of his life with such hatred and degradation. Rape is such an heinous act. Sorry for your loss. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 10:38am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: Perhaps you can assist me by presenting the words of YAH written elsewhere if not in the so called holy scriptures thought to have been inspired by YAH the God of Israel himself! 2Timothy 3:16-17 Read the Apocrypha. These are scriptures that were taken out of the Bible. **The Hidden Words** The original 1611 KJV contained the Apocrypha but was later removed. The scriptures said not to add to or remove from the word and they did because of those fake Jews. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 10:17am On Jun 10, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 10:11am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: I just hope this won't make you deny knowing Jesus (God's only begotten son) because all these questions amount to nothing before his father once a culprit is prepared to turn a new leaf!
Your judgmental attitude has taken over you to the point of rejecting the words of the God you claim to believe (trust)! My questions are about atonement for your sins. If you really have changed in your heart these are some of the things you must do to right your wrongs. This is about you not me. I study Yahuah, you believe in Jesus. Answer the questions. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 10:05am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: I'm sorry Ma! 
I may have committed the same offense in the past, but right now i'm mimicking the very words of Jesus of Nazareth.
Whoever rejects his words will never see God's Kingdom John 3:16-18
Just pray that it doesn't happen to you, because according to Jesus you must let go if you want God to let go of your own sins as well! Matthew 6:12-15
So prepare your mind now because even if you refuse to let go and the rapist is punished, you must go back to beg on your knees before the culprit all what you did to him during the trial, otherwise your sins no matter how small you may view them awaits you before God! Matthew 18:23-35
God bless you!  1. Did you go to the congregation of your church and confess the abominations you committed against women and maybe little girls as well? 2. Did you confess to your family what you have done? 3. Did you make atonement to your victims and how? 4. Are you married and was she a victim of your sick lust? 5. Are you a registered sex offender with your state so that your community can be aware? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 9:58am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: I'm sorry Ma! 
I may have committed the same offense in the past, but right now i'm mimicking the very words of Jesus of Nazareth.
Whoever rejects his words will never see God's Kingdom John 3:16-18
Just pray that it doesn't happen to you, because according to Jesus you must let go if you want God to let go of your own sins as well! Matthew 6:12-15
So prepare your mind now because even if you refuse to let go and the rapist is punished, you must go back to beg on your knees before the culprit all what you did to him during the trial, otherwise your sins no matter how small you may view them awaits you before God! Matthew 18:23-35
God bless you!  1. Did you go to the congregation of your church and confess the abominations you committed against women and maybe little girls as well? 2. Did you confess to your family what you have done? 3. Did you make atonement to your victims and how? 4. Are you married and was she a victim of your sick lust? 5. Are you a registered sex offender with your state so that your community can be aware? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 9:43am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: Thousands have done it in the past my dear and the women later became their wives! That's what God's word says, so who will be the judge to punish a man in behalf of whom his wife (the victim) now intercedes fervently for blessings from God? 
You're looking at the matter from one side blurring your senses to the other side! Every word in that Bible isn't written through YAH but by barbaric men. Just because thousands has committed an act of inhumane violence against others doesn't make it acceptable nor right. YAH didn't order violent, savages to rape and marry his daughters, this was the order of hypocrites called men. Would it be ok if a man bent you over and raped your buttocks as long as he married you afterwards? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 9:27am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: Rape is rape my dear, whether someone overpowered his girlfriend to have sex with her, or forcefully did the same to a stranger. 
Do you care to know the scenario whether they're my girlfriends or not? How do you expect a boyfriend and girlfriend case to be reported as rape when both of them are known within the community as boyfriend and girlfriend?
Of course whatever you sow you will definitely reap, i'm ever prepared to forgive any young man who does the same to my daughter. It's the law that may take it to any length based on whatever people like you concludes to do with rapists! But as for me God is the best judge Ma!  Well the law in Nigeria is different from the law in the US. It doesn't matter if you are boyfriend and girlfriend it doesn't even matter if you are husband and wife *Rape is Rape,* You should right your wrongs by atonement. You will not forgive a man for doing to your daughter what you have done to others daughters, stop lying to yourself. You give me cold chills all throughout my body and soul. You are the boogie man that little girls are afraid of. Ewww!!!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 8:58am On Jun 10, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: "4 as they were preparing to retire for the night, the men of the city—yes, Sodomites, young and old from all over the city—surrounded the house 5 and shouted to Lot, “Bring out those men to us so we can rape them.” 6 Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him" - Genesis 19:4-6 Living Bible (TLB)
Rape, at whatever level, whatever disguise, whatever sex/gender. The wanton act of destruction of a place, a continent and/or the spoiling of a fellow human being can never be right.
Sin, (i.e. missing the mark) is sin, no sin is greater than another sin, so I wouldn't hurriedly dash to go play the "holy pass" card
If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old things have passed away; behold, the new has come into being (i.e. 2 Corinthians 5:17, Isaiah 42:9 and Revelation 21:5) But he must pay for his sins/crimes. Anyone can confess to their sins after destroying people lives for years only to save their own asses. You must reap what you have sown. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 8:49am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: You made a little mistake while typing ma, a former rapist who confessed his sin! James 5:16
God's word says if any man is in Christ he is a new creature! 2Corinthians 5:17
Jesus said don't judge so that you may not be judged, because the type of Judgment you metted out to others is exactly what you'll get! Matthew 7:1-5
I only presented so many circumstances that may warrant someone to be accused of rape.
I pray for you today that you'll become a mother one day, that your son will not be accused of rape and standing trial before a stringent judge like you!
That day you will remember what we are discussing now and beg God on your knees to save your son!
Note that rape also involves a man who forcefully had sex with his own wife not to talk of boyfriend and girlfriend cases, ladies do scheme evil plans to spite their former boyfriends who wants to marry someone else, of course she will scream while they're both enjoying themselves as usual only for her to say the young man raped her!
What most of you are interested in now is the case of murderers who killed their raped victim, you're not thinking of other incidents that may be twisted to implicate innocent people.
So go in peace my dear lady, may the true God bless you, may you never be brought to plead for mercy before a strict judge like yourself!
Farewell!  You have no idea of the terror a woman goes through when being raped nor do you care. I am really offended that you take it for granted that mostly all men are rapist because you are. You said you raped 3 women that you can remember, God only knows how many other women you put through this hell.You said you confessed your sins but did you confess this to the law? I hope your daughter if you have one doesn't meet a monster like her baba. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 8:17am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: I've had sex with so many women in my life, during my early twenties i forcefully had sex with some girls at least i remembered three cases, but these girls came to meet me in my apartment. After raping them (as most people do say) they become my sex partners. I also remembered several occasions when girl do come to seduce me themselves, on one occasion a lady came to visit and said "i purposely came to have sex with you". But all that is my last, now i'm a totally changed person. Notice the other guy called me "old soldier", well i served in some Arab countries, several times they use to amputate Cultists in their midst according to the Sharia. This people do cut of fingers, hand, arm, foot, limb even organ if it's a rape case. Several times they often cut off the male organ of rapist as required by their law, but when they do, all the women that comes to the scene do weep bitterly and agonized, afterwards the victim is stigmatized. So i asked one woman whose daughter was raped, why she was weeping when the culprit was receiving the wages of his crime? She said "why this barbaric type of punishment?" Me "is that not what the law say?" Her "we know but it's not good" Me "What is your own suggestion" Her "there are other ways, this is inhumane"
When i left for another country, i discovered something strange! 
A girl was raped and after catching the culprit, she changed the story and said "he's my boyfriend, but i wasn't just in the mood at that time"  She said this to free the rapist, her friend told me that the victim was screaming not because she felt ravaged but calling the attention of everyone to alert them that this guy who always behave as if he's not attracted to her is now sleeping with her! 
Please i'm not the topic of discussion, i'm only telling you the bitter truth that's costly, 99.9% of the people you see will never tell you this. That's why i said go and do your own findings, God's word admonished us as believers not to follow the crowd {Exodus 23:2} but to make sure of all things! 1Thessalonians 5:21
God bless you!  The experience of a couple of women is not the experience of millions. I'm uncomfortable conversing with a rapist who has no remorse only excuses. Rape is a horrific crime. I would have killed you. I will end any further communication now. Adios |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 6:07am On Jun 10, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: I
Baba Soja, khia doubted you twice, so where did you get that disturbing statistics from hmm, that, if you randomly walk up to ten men, to ask if they have forcefully had sex with a female, at one time or another before (i.e. raped) nine out of the ten respondents will say, yes? Sounds like a confession from a rapist.  He makes rape seem like a normal thing. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 4:16am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: TRUTH is bitter my dear! 
Please just try what i told you now, go make your own PERSONAL inquiry on this matter, speak with your friends one at a time, NOT COLLECTIVELY but privately, and do not frown so as not to alert anyone or give them a clue regarding your own judgement on this case.
You'll be highly disappointed to know what is going on in most people's minds!
In fact that's why Jehovah's Witnesses don't accept other so called Christians as true believers, because most people often follow the crowds, when the crowd say "YES" then yes is it, when the crowd say "NO" then no is it.
But when we speak privately with them, we discover each person have his or her own mind on issues they're only scared of being different! 
So go and do your own findings my dear, forget about what you're hearing on social media, i bet it with you that if a bill is passed now to deal ruthlessly with rapists, it's the females in the National Assembly that will kick against it NOT males!  This may be a Nigerian thing which I don't know anything about. |
Politics › Re: Computer Village Traders Tackle Folashade Tinubu-Ojo Over "Illegal" Levies by khia: 3:53am On Jun 10, 2020 |
stieyven: Begone Satan. I rise and resist you in the name of Yehoshua Hamashiac. Amen Don't bother yourself with that COW, it's just a small peon who craves constant attention. It is NOTHING. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 3:48am On Jun 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: That's the secret no man will tell you my dear, it's always in our minds.
9 out of 10 men have forcefully had sex with a female at one time or another The result 70% of females do fall in love with such a man at last, while 20% accepts them on condition just as the Bible admonished, only 10% do hate the person throughout their lifetime.
So it's the voice of those 10% that's heard that is why it's not easy making stringent rules against rapists!
You need not follow the crowd my dear, try to speak heart to heart with your friends on the matter, please don't do this collectively because many won't come out openly to confess it. But deep down their hearts, 90% of women will stand up to say "he never raped me, we made love" when in actual fact they were raped!  Forcing yourself on a woman is not making love, that thought process could only come out of the mind of a rapist.  Where did you get your statistics from? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 11:21pm On Jun 09, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 11:18pm On Jun 09, 2020 |
meobizy: i SeE dEMeNtIa CaMe EaRlY iN yOuR cAsE. sEeInG hOw U tHiNk oF mE uNcOnScIoUsLy MeAnS i MaDe An ImPrEsSiOn. No impression, I just wanted you to realize how feminine you are. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 9:31pm On Jun 09, 2020 |
Maximus69: All women are emotional my dear, even Sarah grew emotional when Ishmael (Abraham's first son) was falling Isaac (Ishmael's junior brother) who is just learning to walk! Genesis 21:9 She couldn't stand the sight of the boy mocking her own son, forgetting that they are brothers!
So never mind my dear, you are blessed!  Oh boy was she emotional, her disdain towards Ishmael was so unfair, especially since she was part of the reason he existed. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 9:27pm On Jun 09, 2020 |
Maximus69: Of course i'm damn serious! 
Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses, there are so many secrets we keep away from women. That's why Jesus never chose a single female Apostle!
Those taking the lead amongst Christians must know how to keep confidential matters. Women don't have this attribute! 1Timothy 2:11-12  . Hmmm!!! So you are a Witness of Yahuah. I used to hide when Witnesses came knocking at my door  now I welcome the debate. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 9:04pm On Jun 09, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Laws For Rape by khia: 9:00pm On Jun 09, 2020 |
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