Vashni: Op, don't worry. In Mary Kay we trust. We go snatch market from them.
Don't take this the wrong way but why Mary Kay? I have noticed that alot of women mention Mary Kay on this web-site. That is such a terrible unnatural looking make-up for black women. Is there MadameNoire, Iman Cosmetics, Fashion Fair, Brown Sugar, Bobbie Brown, Loreal or even Revlon in Nigeria? These are better makeup lines for our skin.
Virgins are human not angels, and some are only virgins in the VAGINAL penetration sense of the word. Some have participated in annal penetration and orral sexx, now it's up to you if you want to consider those women holy and virgins.
peedeeasobie: If this is the description of feminism, men would have no qualms with except the weak ones but most women who claim to be feminist have indirectly or directly turned feminism to bitchiness, man-hatred, disrespect and constant bashing of the male gender!
I have also come to discover that most so called nigerian feminists are people with troubled father-daughter childhood, people who had terrible abusive relationships at a point and/or people who were raped or almost raped that refused to go for counseling. They turn their hatred to feminism!
There lays your problem, you are confusing silly men haters with feminism. We don't hate men, we love, want and need men for somethings but we aren't totally depended on you for EVERYTHING, and we are able to provide for ourselves, and HELP provide for our families. We just want to be able to make a way for ourselves in this world without being discriminated against simply because we are women.
Women who were abused by men and now look down on them aren't called feminist.
Juvante: As for Chris Rock, I will advice that you get a copy of that show which was held in several cities worldwide. Watch it, examine critically what he said about inter racial relationships,then come back to tell the viewers of this thread what he said. In my spare time, I will cut sections of that video and upload it for all to view. As for skin colour, I never told you that I was dating a Caucasian! My girl is African, born and bred in Africa, though currently schooling in Europe! Foreign women means ladies that are of a different nationality, not neccessarily of a different skin colour, which is a general misconception on this thread. A Nigerian guy with a Ghanian, Gambian, Ethiopian or Egyptian lady,is that not also an international relationship? The emhasis is on location,not on race! As for Nigerian women, I have never said that they are bad or devilish,like you are infering. I keep saying that there are good ones but most of them nowadays leave much to be desired!
The only thing Chris said about black women and interacial dating is that we aren't attracted to white men which most of us aren't, atleast I know I'm not, but what was stupid about that statement is that there are other races of men who aren't white that we are attracted to and we do date. That is why I said who is Chris Rock because Chris doesn't know what he's talking about.
babyfaceafrica: Good,ii consider one a bad feminist when she is unreasonable with her demands, when she wants to apply the western type of feminism without looking at what fits into the society she is bringing that ideology,in order words you mould an ideology into a society to avoid cracks, a bad feminist is one that sees all men opposing feminism as a misogynist, a bad feminist is one that feels its bad for a woman to open the dors for herself, feels its wrong for a woman to initiate sex first, feels its wrong for a woman to toast a man , feels its wrong for a woman to apologise when there is a disagreement with his man, feels its wrong for a man to argue with a woman , feels there is justification for a woman to hit a man but there are no jsutificatiosn for man to hit a woman...let's start with this first ,the reasons are many...if a woman wants equality,se has to stop been selective with this equalities
babyfaceafrica: There are different types of feminist and I think the OP should have clarified that earlier in the post,if I can remember vividly we have up to five types..please don't generalize.what I don't understand is why some ladies see anybody that has issues with femisninsm as a misogynist?..I think that's wrong...just because I don't like the whims and caprices of some women does not mean I hate them!!!.....misogynist hate women.....misandrist hates men!!!.....there are good feminist and bad feminsit....its all about how they reason...feminist wants equal rights with men..not bad an idea..but what I don't like is been selective
dinachi: Any woman who foolishly identifies herself as a feminist is either a closeted lesbian or a mentally in balanced individual. Most women who identify as feminists are a small group of frustrated women angry at men and the world. If you genuinely believe in equality for all, then you cannot be a feminist. Feminists are for those fighting for ONLY women rights not everybody's rights! I believe in equality for men, women and children. No segregations.
There is no need to fight for men's rights because you were born with them, but women and children rights are a constant battle for equality/justice. Please read and find the true meaning of a feminist.
Feminist are not frustrated mentally challenged lesbians, that is as ridiculous as me saying men who hate feminist and are against women having equality in this world are homosexuals who are only concerned about what is good for men. Is that you?
[quote author=sinizia post=33682342]This is absolutely bullshít!! No iota of sense in it. Utter fuckéry!! Some men are confused sometimes. They are quick to say they hate ladies that leech on them, ladies that contribute nothing to the relationship except séx. Yet when they find a self-sufficient and independent lady, they cry blue murder and label her a feminist; ranting on how they want the woman to depend on them. I just don't get we men sometimes. What do we really want?
i for one beseech ladies to be independent whether married or not. Men that won't tolerate them are egocentric chauvnists. The type that will easily want to dump them because they know if she's a leech, she can't fend on herself and will come running back to them. Men with low self-esteem!! I won't ever raise my daughter to depend on another person. Being independent is what any sane individual should strive for. I won't marry any girl that's a leech or not independent.[/quot
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These are tears of joy, I just found Man Of The Year.
Abaccha: We know women can carry their luggages, but i remember you peoples model Chimamanda once said that men couldn't even help her with her luggages one of the times she visited Finland. Finland being one of the places where feminism is thriving very well. Now is that not hypocrisy?
Actually, helping someone with their luggage has nothing to do with being or not being a feminist, but having manners, and being considerate of someone in need.
I am a woman and if I see someone who could use my help rather the person is a man, woman, or child I would offer my help, gender doesn't matter.
Abaccha: Before you toll the feminism lane, remember the following: 1. No man opens the car doors for you again 2. No man helps you with a heavy luggage 3. No man initiates sex with you first 4. No man approaches you for a relationship first, if you admire him, you must open up to him, since it's an equal world. 5. No man foots the bills for you again. 6. No man pays your bride price again 7. Etc
It isn't necessary for the man to do 1-5, a woman is capable of doing them all hersslf, especially #3. In my and others situation #6 is obsolete.
Some people are really clueless to what a feminist is. You should want someone who isn't totally dependent on you for EVERYTHING.
Only insecure men would be afraid of a confident woman, some of you men lack confidence and if you had any idea what a feminist was you would know that she would have your back and some of life's burdens will not be so heavy because she'll be right there with you to help carry the weight and that is what you men should want, a woman to HELP you carry the load, not a leach that is only there until she drain's you dry.
lol.. Some of you men seem to think that feminist hate men and are a bunch of butch lesbians. We just want to be able to make it in this world fairly and not be discriminated against because we are female. Thank God for feminist in the US or we would still be living like we were in the 40's and 50's. Come on!! Man up guys!!!
AkanIgbo: During the Civil Rights era there were many differences between African Americans on how pursue rights for African Americans. They were militant groups like the Nation of Islam and other groups like the Black Panther Party. There were factions that wanted non violent protests like the SCLC and the NAACP.
After slavery was over there was disagreement over how to pursue the advancement of Black people. Those disagreements were between factions for Booker T. Washington and WEB Dubois. There were also disagreements between factions for WEB DuBois and Marcus Garvey.
So African Americans have not always been as united as they eventually became, but White Supremacy eventually made all of the various factions tie their rafts together; which helped advancement.
You just proved my point, we have always been together in the struggle, of course there were disagreements at times because we are all human, but at the end of the day we had each others backs.
We learned a long time ago that.. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL
AkanIgbo: The Cyber hackers probably only stole $1 million USA dollars. If you know American bankers like Americans know American bankers, then you know that the American bankers probably stole the other $999,999,999.00 million USA dollars; and then the bankers blamed it on cyber hackers.
I think that Nigerians have the same problems as African Americans and other African people do. We have no unity. We don't see each other as having the same issues and problems, so when an average Nigerian hears a White American say something negative about African American; the average Nigerian might not assume that the comment applies to them as a Nigerian. If an average African American hears an Englishman say something negative about a Nigerian; then then the average African American might not assume that the comment applies to them as an African American. Truth be told the negative comments were applied to both the African American and Nigerian, because the White Americans and the English are together on everything and they are kings of divide and conquer; they know that the Nigerians and African Americans are the same people, but they have fooled them into thinking that they are some how different from each other and the Nigerians and African Americans are buying that nonsense. The problem is that Nigerians, African Americans and for that matter all Africans need to realize that they have a shared goal of getting respect all over the World; and that starts with having respect and defending each other. Yes Nigerians and African Americans need to start defending each other when lies are being told about the other.
What are you talking about? African Americans has always been united, our survival in this racist country depended/depends on our unity.
Fulaman198: No no no, you got it completely wrong, if you watched the video he clearly said, what is this music it's our own music. Blues has been around for Millenia in Africa. It also means you didn't watch the documentary from Mali to Mississippi. The first time Ali Farka Toure heard blues was from a white man, when he performed his own music. The white man told him that the music played in the Sahel sounds like "Blues" and introduced him to John Lee Hooker. The only difference was that the music was in English when our Sahelian music has always been in our native tongues (Songhai, Hausa, Tamasheq, Fulfulde, Bambara, etc.)
You are right Fula, I couldn't watch the video, it wouldn't load but I will continue to try.
I can list thousands of examples because I know for a fact, the music you guys call blues and Rock n roll in the West has been around in the Sahel and Southern Sahara for thousands of years.
Fulaman this video is only proof that the blues influenced this musician, you would need to show your proof atleast 80 years back.
Fulaman198: I don't agree that African Americans created blues.
Blues music is a very old music style called Mbawdi in some Fulani dialects. Rock and Roll came from Sahelian grooves like Ishumar and traditional West African music. The rest of the music mentioned here however was created by African Americans.
In regards to classical music, Africans have their own classical music. Feel free to ask and I will link several examples.
Black Americans invented blues, and rock n roll, there were no Fulani's in America in the 40's and 50's playing your music for blacks to hear and imitate and we definitely weren't in Nigeria.
Culture › Re: . by khiaa(f): 1:49am On May 10, 2015*. Modified: 10:49pm On Jun 01, 2015
AkanIgbo: We have already discussed the other stuff that you have mentioned through out this thread. Africans have achieved huge successes before. You are only feeling the way that you feel, because of how the Europeans screwed up your land and left you all for broke. Things will improve; they already are, but it took Africans over 300 years to commit the atrocities that they committed with the Europeans during the slave trade. So it is going to take some time and atonement for Africans to dig their way out of it. That is what all of the warring and fighting is all about. Things will sort themselves out and Africa will rise again. One of the things that has to happen is that African Americans have to invest in the African nations and the governments of those nations have to deal with honesty and improve the physical and business infrastructure so that investors will know that their investments are safe. Right now there is a lot of corruption and transparency is not there.
African Americans will never greatly invest in Africa with the mentality that some of the Africans have, like this bafoon you are posting to. I do agree that there will have to be atonement and sincere remorse for the past, but above all TRUST is an issue that would be the hardest thing to achieve.
CAN WE TRUST THEM going by the past and present? Their greed is overwhelming. Their leaders are so greedy that they would sell their people into slavery to this day if the white man came to purchase them with lots of cash to pay. There is no remorse for slavery by them, it was a profitable business caused by greed, the same greed that is present in their descendants today.
Have you not noticed that this thread is focused on African Americans? This is nairaland and not dollarland so what exactly are you doing here?
You obviously haven't noticed but we recently voted out a corrupt incumbent president/government because we want change. Apparently you are more ignorant than I thought or else you would have noticed that there is NO SINGLE white government official here unlike in your "heaven" where Obama is still a puppet to the whites who are REALLY in charge.
You are a nigger as long as you live in America and feed off the foundation that whites created for you. If your ancestors weren't sold of as slaves, which they were even while they were here, by my ancestors who were kings, YOU and YOUR FUTURE generation would have still been slaves here instead of wearing gold chains and killing each other over drugs and neighbourhoods which you don't even own houses in.
Oloriburuku. Omo ale ti o month ile.
You are to much of an ignorant bafoon for me to continue to attempt an intelligent conversation with. You lack self esteem and you are a poor excuse for a man. Read more so that you will learn more, until then, I'm done with you.
PS.... Dumb Jackass, your family was sold off to slavery aswell, those slaves were your grandparents, uncles, aunts and cousins. You just voted your new president in, only time will tell if he is a good and honest leader or just another criminal who is in office to continue the legacy of nigerian crooked leadership. I am here because Seun invited me here. He invited friends of nigeria not only nigerians to his website.
Culture › Re: . by khiaa(f): 12:47am On May 10, 2015*. Modified: 11:37pm On Jun 09, 2015
hahn: Ask yourself this simple question, why haven't Africans been able to replicate this "intelligence" on African soil? Do you even live here? Yes, whites are thieves but blacks are lazy. Its the truth. What we should be doing is trying to find a way out of the mess we ha put ourselves in.
I might be pathetic but at least I have brains enough not to throw blames at another race for all my problems.
You actually sound like every other black american who blames their problems on the white man. Over here, we blame our
problems on ourselves. Get it?
You are in Nigeria so tell me how and where did you hear African American blaming their problems on white people, let me guess THE WHITE MEDIA?
What are you doing to improve the conditions of your homeland? You are too brainless and busy complaining about whats going on in the lives of African Americans (which isn't your concern at all) to attempt any kind of resolution to the problems of nigeria, YOU are too lazy and brainless, YOU would rather wait for the next generation, or on your wise and all knowing white man to come and clean up the mess he created through colonization, than to get off of your lazy azz and take a stance against your leaders and start protesting your corrupt politicians.
Do you think marriage would have prevented this incident from occurring? ------------------------------------- That 40-year old 'baby' should first be taken to a psychiatric hospital.
This is a bad omen for Nigeria where we no longer respect the value of marriage/marrying right. The 40 and 35-year lovers in a relationship as boyfriend and girlfriend living together.
It will always be news until Nigeria make stronger laws for these pathetic, disgusting pedophiles and rapist and start caring about it's children/women.
hahn: Created by African Americans but made popular by whites and the infrastructure built by them. Without whites, we'd still be wearing leaves
It wasn't made popular by whites, it was stolen and screwed by them, whites are the super thieves of the earth, you need to get your head out of the white mans butt. Yes you would be wearing leaves because YOU don't have the intelligence to think on your own without YOUR WHITE GOD telling you what to do. You are pathetic and more than likely a white troll.
hahn: Music? Did you just mention music as an achievement? I am pretty sure that by music, you are referring to hip hop and RnB, right? Do you realise that classical music, rock and roll etc were all existing before hip hop was created in the 1980s. For your information, the richest hip hop artist isn't as rich as an average rock and roll group/band. Do you even know what goes on behind the scenes? The equipments used are all made by whites. The enabling market for such music to grow was created by whites. The whole "hollywood" glamor was created by whites.
Even here in Africa, our music only thrives because we have "copied" what works in the western world and even at that, the quality of our music is still relatively low and cannot be marketed to the world.
As far as the "inventions" go, blacks on African soil have not been able to achieve such feats. At the end of the day, without the enabling environment by the whites, blacks still wouldn't have invented the wheel.
African Americans created Rock n Roll, Country and Western, Jazz, Swing, Blues, Gospel, Barber Shop and every music that ever came out of this country. Classical music was not created by Americans.