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Lexusgs:
A student thread already exists, track it down and repost.....

Ok. Thanks. I will do that. But ps any of u that av gone through it should also assist ps

Good day dear house ps my step sister wishes to apply for UK student visa from Nigeria for her master and she doesn't know how to go about it. Ps I really need someone that will be able to give us all the guidance she need and the procedures. The most important thing is that we want to know how much she can have in her savings account to procedure for all these. Will 4 or 5M be okey ps

Lexusgs430:
The apprenticeship scheme is free and you would get paid about £140 pw, for the entire duration of the scheme.

You would have to listen out for details (if I find any updates, would mention you).....

Thanks @Lexusgs430. Ps keep me informed or inbox me on any updates.

Lexusgs430:
An apprenticeship scheme to nursing is also on the cards, they are still working on the finer details. It is a 4/5 program, but upon graduation one becomes an RGN..

No pain..... No gain..... You would have to invest in yourself, to increase your earning potential.....

Thanks for this tips. Ps I will like to know how one can enroll for the apprenticeship scheme when they finalize it, is it from your work place u will be informed or one keep making enquiries on it? Ps any information u get about it kindly let me know. Moreso does one pay for this apprenticeship scheme? I will really like to know more on it ps. Thanks for your time

Loving this forum day by day. Very helpful. U guys rock!

Lexusgs430:
Improve salary structure by either training as an RGN or work only with/through agencies....

Thanks for y response
How can one train as RGN without having a degree in nursing? Can one just get only training as RGN without a degree? Ps kindly put me through because most nurses said they had a degree which is very expensive, if one can not afford the fee what can one do to become a nurse ps?

Ps dear house, I want to know why health care assistant workers are not really paid well in the UK, despite there are the ones that does almost all the work at the hospital, their salary is very low, £8 per hour and monthly take home is £1,200, which is £15,000 annual for permanent staff why agency earns higher
How can one survive with this salary after paying rent? Very bad. How can a family who are not on any benefit manage this? I am still wondering.

Ps house how can a health care assistant improve his/her chances of getting a better offer for salary increment and how can one improve to better position in the health care job. Ps I really will like to know .

I am really enjoying this wonderful thread, I av learnt alot. U guys rock. Keep it up! On this credit score one need to be financially responsible to av a good credit history.

My hubby cousin sister, was telling me almost the same thing last week when she came visiting, that the hubby is in a serious bad credit, even she mentioned this ccj, she said the hubby has been unable to pay bk his debts so it is seriously affecting them, they can not even rent a house, bc they want to move out from London to outskirt. She said every house they get, d landlord refuses them bc of d bad credit and she is not working, just taking care of her kids. She really complained badly on it. I was just like saying na wa for this UK, one can not rent a house bc of bad credit or buy a house, na wa o! Nigeria good! Lol. I learnt from her that one need to be financially responsible in this country. But she later said that after six years that the record will be cleared off, that if the record is not cleared, that her hubby is planning to relocate to another country bc, he is not able to do anything, the credit is really disturbing him alot. ps house how is this truth? Can his record be wipe out a/f 6years without him paying? How can he start building up another credit, will this affect him through out his stay in the UK? I am curious to know o! Let me better warn my hubby to be careful. Let us manage what we have.

Aphrodite007:
I swear, mama, I was shocked at what she said. See me praying for her than beyond every cloud there’s a silver lining, she said I was being harsh. It is well.

I am so sorry. Apologies ps

Mamatukwas:
Aww her words weren't harsh or meant to be. I know you're stressed but just calm down. Everyone means you well. You'll be ok finally and will look back at this period and laugh. Kilzes

Thanks dear. Sorry if I av offended any one with my words, is just that I am stress up. Thanks for y understanding

Aphrodite007:
Wait my words were harsh? Lol ok if you say so.

Dear so sorry about that. Is just that I av much on my head now and so confused. Sorry for saying u are harsh. I apologize

teejay231:
Personally I think the system favours women with children as the Home Office will never separate a child from its mother. A lot of people of different nationalities have had to remain in the UK illegally for various reasons. It is not advisable to do so but in your condition I do understand as you have young children. However, you will not be able work, open a bank account or rent a house and so many other things.



I do know of someone who came to the UK with a visiting visa, had children here and was able to legalise his stay when his kids turned 6 and 4. The application was initially refused by the Home Office but he won the appeal as the Home Office lawyer didn't turn up. Usually kids born in the UK qualify for citizenship after 10 years regardless of their parents status.

Thanks I appreciate

Aphrodite007:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you can’t get a job unless you get your papers well. If you are in the south and do mago-mago to get a job, you will be paid shitty money. I think you should just focus on your kids. And what your husband earns isn’t bad. You people will just learn to cut your coat well well.

As for going to school, there’s no “cheap” nursing school, because you are classed as an international student until 3 years (after getting your papers) of being here. The least I have seen is 15k sha.

Mental health is quite good. I know people that make money doing it.

I know it’s too late to regret, but I’m sure you can see now that it would have been better for you to have just gone back home, married and returned here to work. I hope people get to see this and learn from it. Regardless, behind every cloud..

What I’ll advice you do now is join a church, cook for them, make nigerian meals and advertise online, learn to sew and make hair, buy and sell online, etc. Cos as far as work is concerned, oma me!

Your words are just too harsh and scaring. I have a God of possiblity! Thanks for y contribution

DaveChapelle:
I think just go with your immigration lawyer. All this hearsay only heightens your anxiety

Thanks @DaveChapelle

EngrSaks:
I think the decision to go back to Naija will favour you only if your visiting visa hasn't expired. If it has expired and you go back to Naija that's trouble for you

Bros, it is well with me. In God I trust

Ralphlauren:
please, don't be scared. all you need is to harm yourself with as much information as possible, consider all options and then decide on the best route to follow.

no, you cannot go to the council (where weddings are done) and get married. this is because one of the documents they will ask from you is your proof of legal status in the UK which will also be confirmed with the home office before the marriage ceremony is conducted. so, it is impossible for someone with a visitors visa (valid or expired) to get married in the UK. the home office introduced this rule many years ago to stop all the sham weddings and also stop illegals from changing their legal status whilst in the UK.

check this link and read under 'Giving notice of intention' to see the rules required by westminister council for weddings. the rule is the same for all councils across the country.
https://www.westminster.gov.uk/giving-notice-of-intention

getting married at any Church of England (Anglican church) used to be an option but this also requires proof of legal status.

the only option is for your husband to go to Nigeria and you two can get married at the registry. there is no need for any paparazzi. with less than 50,000 naira, you can get married at ikoyi registry. after this, then he can file for you as his dependant.

Now, if you choose to remain in the UK, Yes, once he gets his ILR, you can put in an application for discretionary leave but only do this AFTER you've registered your kids as British and they've been issued their British passport. since they were born in the UK to at least one parent (the father in this instance) that is legally in the UK, they should be able to register as British without any issue. since you cannot legalise your marriage, make sure you have bills in both your names (council tax, electricity, gas, etc) as these documents will proof that both of you are living together in the same household.

Although, I feel if you wait till after he gets his citizenship, your application might stand a better chance but there's no harm trying as soon as he gets his ILR. just be prepared to wait . . . . . .

if the application was done from Nigeria as a dependent of a PBS migrant, the application takes about 2-3 weeks.
Filing as spouse of a british citizen from Nigeria takes longer though; around 4 -6 months.

Thanks so much for all your advice I appreciate. Ps what is PBS migrant? Does it mean that if it is with permanent resident he will use and apply for me that it will take 2weeks, then if he is a citizen applying from Nigeria it will be 6months right? Ps explain better.

More so what are the requirements that my hubby need to put in place for the spouse visa application. Thanks so much for all y response.

EngrSaks:
All is well, don't worry too much because things will fall into place

Thanks for your encouragement is just that I am beginning to be scared again with all these informations I keep getting of going bk to Nigeria. I will try to leave.

Ralphlauren:
please do not consider my response as harsh.

I wish you had channelled your passion/drive you've shown towards planning your future into getting things right from the onset. you could have timed things properly and birthed your kids in Nigeria.

right now, the odds are firmly against you. you came as visitor, used the NHS which you are not entitled to and you had 3 babies, your husband is not British or EU, you are not legally married to your husband (home office does not consider bride price as proof of legal marriage) and you've refused to return back to nigeria. even those with British partners are often advised to return home and have their partner file for spousal visa.

I am not discouraging you or trying to sound negative but you need to be realistic with timescales and expectations. you stand a better chance of getting the discretionary leave AFTER your husband has obtained his British citizenship and registered your 3 kids as British (we are looking at around 2 and a half to 3 years from now). If you apply for discretionary leave AFTER he's been granted citizenship, expect the home office to refuse your application and tell you to go back to your home country and apply from there. if you refuse to leave, maybe after some back and forth, delay in visa application, etc maybe just maybe will you get the discretionary leave after a year or two years or more. You should set your mind on 5 years.

if you want to apply for the discretionary leave BEFORE your husband becomes British, then you need to consider what grounds your application is based on. asylum? FGM? health?



regarding your plan of becoming a nurse, you need to complete a nursing degree for that. what part of nursing are you interested in? adult? child? both? mental health? midwifery?
https://www.rcn.org.uk/professional-development/become-a-nurse

nursing degrees aren't cheap. even if you wait until after you get your discretionary leave to enrol in University, you will not be entitled to pay home fees until you are British. as british, you are eligible for student loan and as Scottish, you might be entitled to free tuition.

at London south bank university, for a 3 years undergraduate degree in adult nursing, they charge UK/EU fee: £9250 International fee: £23, 125 PER ANNUM. so for 3 years, the total course fee for UK/EU is £27750 and International is £69375

http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/courses/course-finder/adult-nursing-bsc-hons#course_tab_fees_and_funding

there might be cheaper universities outside London. you can use this link to search:
https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/career-planning/course-finder

there is also thr route visa nursing apprenticeships.
https://www.nmc.org.uk/education/becoming-a-nurse-or-midwife/becoming-a-nurse/

With the current hostile immigration climate where banks are conducting immigration checks before they open bank account and carrying out remediation exercise on accounts held by foreign nationals so as to close down the bank accounts of illegals or is it some GP practices requesting to see proof of legal status before registering (I heard some foolish ones are even requesting proof of employment from non EU/British nationals), this is not the best of times for any illegal migrant.

I sincerely wish you all the very best.

Thanks so much for all these informations. I really appreciate. Ps the last question can I and my hubby do a small court marriage here in UK and use it to fill my spouse visa from Nigeria when I get bk to Nigeria? my hubby can not travel back to Nigeria due to too much expenses and he needs to work hard to get money to pay for our flight tickets, i can only travel with my kids now and we still av to book flight ticket for them and buy other things.
To tell u guys the truth, I am really scared, I will try to leave from all these y messages, it is really scaring me.

Secondly since my hubby is working hard with his lawyer to get his permanent stay this year. Bc he said it will take 6months to come out. Can he use his permanent resident to fill for us, even if it is with the discretionary leave ? Bc u keep saying until he is a citizen. Can't he use his permanent resident if he gets it to fill for spouse visa or discretionary leave ? Thanks I await y response

Killingmesoftly:
Thanks for your response dear. I appreciate. I will try to focus on my kids. Ps I want to know if I can do some online nursing programs. I will like to know if online program here in the UK also check visa status if one want to register for it, atleast I can be doing some short courses relating to nursing, or health care. I want to be in the health care services, I love taking care of people.

@Fatima dear I am still waiting for your response or response from the house concering the online program. Ps brothers and sisters d'nt feel I am disturbing u guys with my issue. I am seriously making plans for my self and I am trusting in God that I will excel in this UK. There is nothing impossible with God. I need u all, u guys are the only friends I av now. I appreciate u all.

imnotconfused:
@killingmesoftly

A good income is relative..all depends on lifestyle choices.

I know people earning 20-22k pcm before taxes mostly sole earners with wives who don't work.

3k may seem a lot to some but there are people earning double and triple , quadruple of that & still not satisfied.

Important thing is to do what you can and be happy..there will always be someone who outearns you.

Make sure you are living within your means,keep expenditure way less than incoming,mix with people who inspire and challenge you to be better.

I've not seen mentions of importance of extracurriculars for the kids..i cannot stress on how important this is.Swimming classes,dance classes,football,karate,tennis,music you name it i'm sure there's a class for it somewhere.

Find out what interests the children have and let them enrol in at least one of them.

Councils usually run cheap classes for children,it's quite useful to keep them busy.

Also broadening horizons for the children is great,visits to the museum,zoo,parks,overy inexpensive but serve to educate in a fun filled way.There are even places to pick fruits,farms that offer cheap riding and petting classes with ponies for a day..sea world to learn about sea life etc


I won't even go into how important it is to go on holidays.Once a year?Doesn't have to be very expensive,there are places you can book within the uk that are amazing and you can book a year ahead sef while saving.

Time out to chill is very very important.I will write more as i remember.

NB I don't count going to nigeria as a holiday.It is usually very very stressful for me

Thanks for this wonderful information

fatima04:
@killingmesoftly truth is everything is in stages with what you have decided to do and since you made up your mind to stay back you have to face the harsh reality.

Focus on raising those kids because getting a job and studying right now with your status is near impossible and immigration is very fluid in all this developing countries so planning 3k income ahead is not necessary and no point to it because there are toooooooo many uncertain variable in your equations.

And also hope you know cost of childcare is expensive for one kid not to mention 3 so eventually working may not be worth it.

All the best in your chosen path

Thanks for your response dear. I appreciate. I will try to focus on my kids. Ps I want to know if I can do some online nursing programs. I will like to know if online program here in the UK also check visa status if one want to register for it, atleast I can be doing some short courses relating to nursing, or health care. I want to be in the health care services, I love taking care of people.

Lexusgs430:
You have packed so many to do's in this your request. Take things easy and don't over burden yourself....

Hmmm! U d'nt understand, I need to make haste when d sun set. I need better life for my family that is why I am asking all these questions

marylandcakes:
If you are taking home net 3k monthly in Uk even if you are living in London that’s are very good pay so the gross of that should be about 46k which is above average pay. You should be about to live comfortable with that. At the end of the day it also boils down to your spending habits.
If the 3k is Gross pay then that’s 36k pa , if you are on the basic tax code then your net take home should be about £2,300 monthly.. That’s still not bad , it depends on the size of your family. If you are the only bread winner, then you might struggle a bit. If you are frugal then it should be enough.

Very good income as long as you are not playing “keeping up with the Jones”

Thanks so much dear. I appreciate y prompt response

Ps house I still need clarification on the reasonable salary one can receive monthly in the UK.
Is £3,000 a good salary for the month? Ps why I am asking all these questions is that I am preparing and planning for my future. U guys might think I am asking too much, but I need to start planning for the future of my family. The earlier I garther informations the better for me. Ps what advice can u give to me as I get my pappers. I want to study nursing and how much did they pay nurses in uk?

Ralphlauren:
To start with, you should have gone back to nigeria and have your husband file for you to return back to the UK as his dependant.

You’ve said your partner is on a work/business visa. I assume this is the entrepreneur visa so why is he working at a nursing home? Has he considered switching career paths? What’s his educational background ?

It’s going to take up to 2-4 years if not longer to obtain your discretionary leave to remain. If you had returned to naija, with all the right paperwork, within two weeks, you would have obtained your dependent visa which gives you unrestricted rights to work and also study and you would have returned back to the UK with your kids as legal migrants.

It would have cost your family a lot financially but when you consider lawyer fees, the back and forth with home office, the 2-4years (or more) of unemployment on your part (lost income), then you will see that returning to naija would have been a better option.

This route you’ve taken is just added stress on your husband. Being the only income earner for a family of five is tough and considering the fact is not eligible for any benefits at the moment.

Be wary of friends encouraging and advising you to overstay. I would also be wary of friends advising you to work at mental homes (when it’s clear you have no passion for such roles). Such friends are usually the group of people that believe the only roles immigrants can get in the UK is care job which is an absolute fallacy. You needs friends around you that will advise you to do things the legal route. Friends that can inspire you to aim for a role in a fancy office at Canary Wharf.

Now that your visa has expired, if you return to nigeria and your husband files for you with his current status, you will be refused. You will have to wait till he gets his citizenship (another 2yrs+) before he can file for you under the spousal visa route.

Until you regularise your stay, it’s going to be very difficult earning an income. Focus on your kids, decide on what career path you want and go on udemy and see if there are short courses you can take.

Thanks for your advice, I appreciate. How do u want me to go bk to Nigeria with three kids, still very little kids? I rather trust in God for the three years or four for the discretionary leave to remain.

My hubby is on work visa. But what they wrote in his visa is that he had the right to work and do business, but since he can not do business, he decided to get work at nursing home.
For now he does not av any qualification, he only did a certification course on health care which he used to get a work and he has done many trainings.

My brothers and sisters i thank u all for your wonderful contributions concerning my topic. I am the lady that has triplets with my expired visa, I have decided to stay to enable me take care of my triplets. The lawyer is still working on my case but I av to excercise patience to enable me have my papers. I have to confess, it has not bin easy taking care of triplets. I av been up and doing. So buzy! Ps house what is a good salary in the UK for someone that does not av qualification? Someone told me that £3,000 is good to make every month for d family. But will £3,000 be Okey for me and my husband, with our three kids for every month? My hubby just got two rooms apartment and we are paying £900 but we pay for water, and other bills. He works as healthcare staff in a nursing home and earn £2,000 and he also do other jobs during his off days, atleast a month he makes £2,300. Ps will the £2,300 be enof if we manage it well?
May I know the highest pay one can get paid in the UK without certificate.

A friend adviced me that when my kids are 2years and when I get my papers, I should work as mental health assistance, she said they pay them well, beacuse she is working as a mental health assistance contractor, she only works at her convient time, mostly nite shift and at the end of the month, she goes home with £2,500. How truth is this ps? Working at y convient time and making that amount? I will like to know if mental health assistance is a good job without certificate just training. I heard that no certificate is required for the job. Is this really a good job bc I am scared of mad people.
I am looking for something to do to assist my hubby. Ps house I need your advice on these ps. Or is there any other jobs one can get well paid without certificate?

I am aving hope to further my studies, I will like to be a nurse. Can someone put me through on how to become a nurse, which cheap university or college can I go. I learnt I can do just diploma nursing. How much can I av to do it, I need to start saving, ps I need y advice house. Ps help mama triplets like me. I really need y advice so that I can bring up my family, I am a hard-working woman, I need to achieve like others in this country. I await all your wonderful contributions. Thanks so much. I appreciate u all for taking out time to assist.

justwise:
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I guess your bf is holding business visa and not work visa else you will not be paying for the NHS cost.

Paying back the cost of baby birth will work on your favour at the long run and for the fact that you had a triplet is an added advantage because UKBA may show some sort of compassion because of those kids.

Your kids can apply for a stay after 7yrs if the route you are planning to take now fails because i don't know how long your bf has lived in the UK to qualify for a stay.

Thanks for your response. My fiance have stayed in uk for five years and he has applied for his permanent resident, which we hope to be successful. The lawyer said as he gets it, he will apply for citizen for the kids. I will be so happy if he gets it and my kids becomes citizen immediately than waiting for this 7years. I am believing God that I will get my stay through my kids. I will stay because of this luvly kids that God has given me.

Geetrix:
Please do you mind my asking if you guys are married yet? It appears a traditionally responsible thing to do as it may not be convenient, as i do not see a wedding being convenient for me at the moment, eventhough the families might wish it, but it just feels like a waste of money if you know what i mean?

Not yet, we are just engaged but planning to get married end of the year. He will just pay my bride price to my parents and we just do small marriage blessing, that is all. No need of spending much , now that we av three kids at a go

Geetrix:
Just talk to an immigration lawyer. And i hear there are different methods....i don't think your situation is a problem....but get a lawyer first, because if you don't that's when things start getting difficult. I have heard about 2.5yrs DLR like you said, i think its not so obvious, so that people will not start abusing it.

Thanks. My fiance av a lawyer that is assisting us. Really appreciate your response.

dupyshoo:
Monchat and Killingmesoftly are obviously the same person!!!

Anyway to answer your question; first congrats on the birth of your triplets!!! As you and your husband are in a relationship, you will have to go through the Family life as a partner (10 year route). The process can be tedious and can take a long time. Be prepared to wait for over a year for the outcome of your application and there is no assurance that it won't be refused. If you did not pay for the birth of your babies, you might have to pay the NHS fee as they might refuse your application cos of this.

Thanks for your response. Ps I am not Monchat. For the NHS we are paying it gradually by His grace.

Geetrix:
my gf is an overstayer too. And i think she plans to do something like this....i guess the worst thing that can happen is you get deported isn't it! Please let me know how it go...maybe i can learn from you too

Honestly I am scared of bin deported. A Nigeria friend I met at Asada shop last week, told me that was what she did when she came to visit her husband with 6months visa, and as soon as the hubby got his permanent resident, he filled for the kids born in the UK and the one she brought from Nigeria. That she stayed for 3years then, finally she was given 2.5 years. But she said the home office refused her application, that she has to go bk to Nigeria and the hubby fill for spouse visa for her but she was stubborn and refused to go bk, she hold on to God in prayers and fasting and today she has her stay and has traveled to Nigeria last year with her family and bk to uk. She just encouraged me not to go bk to Nija but I am scared of deportation. I also know of a family friend that came to visit her husband who is illegal in the UK, the lady was pregnant bf her husband left for UK, so when she was due to give birth, she went to uk and I d'nt know how she did it and organised a uk citizen, that the man was the owner of the child, and the citizen guy filled for her and and baby, today she has her papers. I am scared bc we might not av the same luck. Any body who has any one with the same experience should ps share

justwise:
What type of visa is your boyfriend currently holding?

He has a work/ business visa