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Silentgroper:
That's is a fvcking lie ..

You can't drink beer all day , get ridden with HIV and still have better life expectancy than a Nigerian. .


. before 50 . Most of your folks are already dealing with liver cirhossis ..

So it's news to you that you have a worse life expectancy than SA?

Sepukku:
Yep I have never admitted that there is a migrant issue in South Africa.

You are so right.

SMH.

No no no... everything to you boils dows to this so-called "hate" for other Africans.., and you've added a new layer now, that's it's this -so-called hate it's propagated by the media.. Utter BS

RandDigital:
It's not palliative beer, we use our money. Una gonna wait for palliative rice til next Christmas or 2027 presidential election 😂😂😂

Just ignore the fool..he's bottom of the pile this one..

Sepukku:
You are trying everything to discredit my point of view neh.

I have proven to you time without number how intimately knowledgeable I am of this particular topic in your country.

I don't need to prove anything to you my friend just know you are not talking to some clueless Nigeria sitting in front of his computer screening and lamenting.

And you're trying to play down the real experiences of people by dismissing everything as just propaganda induced "hate" when it's not.

boxypane:
When God was blessing humans with head, you guys queued behind the kangaroos.

Tell that your goalkeeper nwabali

Sepukku:
Ultimately, It's your country at the end of the day. You can expel or ban anyone you dim fit to ban. I cannot control that. I cannot portray a victim complex personally because I am not a migrant.

What I do control and can do is provide an alternative to the "propaganda" being peddled about a majority of migrants in South Africa of which you are not fooling anyone anywhere in the world to support your side of this insidious narrative.

The control of immigration is one thing. The "demonization" of them is another thing in my book.

I am not standing for that nonsense.

You're not in a position to stand for anything since you don't even live in the communities that you claim "demonize" these people, you don't know what these people experience, you neither understand these little nuances because you're so far away, you essentially don't have a clue what's happening, the best you can do is to speculate.

Sepukku:
The rape of minors is a pandemic that has existed in your communities and perpetrated by your locals long before the influx of foreigners.

I challenge you to produce any stats of rape crimes committed by foreigners in comparison to your locals.

Let me guess your comeback on that " they are undocumented so we can trace them" but they are the ones committing the crimes.

Propaganda at its finest.

And the illegals have exacerbated it... the illegals have exacerbated a lot of crimes because they're untraceable... whether you agree with this I don't care. it's the truth

Can you trace an illegal? yes/no? where's the propaganda here?

The sooner you get rid yourself of this persecution complex you have. this victim complex. you'll see things from a South African perspective.. because I can assure you, a lot of these foreigners that cry xenophobia aren't these little innocent model citizens you make them out to be.. a lot of things that happen in the hoods are not always covered by the media

Calitoscassius:
I am not surprised, i didn't expect you to comprehend.


I am out!


Happy christmas!

And he thinks he's cooking..

Silentgroper:
to your god's country , who doesn't know that ..


Such loyal slave...

Yawn..

Stale

Sepukku:
defecating has nothing to do with the point being made.

Nobody insinuated it was.. just showing you the actual "slow" people

Sepukku:
No Mfethu the difference is you have a microscopic view of things. I on the other hand see the big picture.

I leave it to you to figure out who of the two is better off?

You're forcing your view on me as an onlooker from far-flung Nigeria, trying to feed, conspiracy theories to suit your "xebophoiba" victim agenda.. this wont work on e me Igwe

An illegal Mozambican recently raped a 6-year-old South African girl and this happens a lot and here you're telling me about Cape Town beach houses bought by foreigners and propaganda.. my people are experiencing a host of things on the ground.. and you're trying to scoff at these things as just propaganda so you can cry as sone xenophobia victim

Sepukku:
So stealing money from your bank account without you noticing and stealing it from you directly are two different things.

I see why you guys are slow.

Yeah,, like your open defecating brethren..

Calitoscassius:
Atleast i learned it.. it also proves the education system in Naigeria are better enough to taxes at primary school.

As i said, if you do not have enough money in your pocket to live comfortably. GDP and data means Zilch! a country's "better" economy is supposed to reflect on ordinary citizens financial comfortabilities, quality of lives and their purchasing power otherwise it's all propanganda.

You're blabbering so much dust that I don't even know what you're arguing about

Sepukku:
Ahh yes the cover up of "defective goods".

Listen the NGO's challenged your xenophobic government to afford these migrants rights. Seeing that the government was legally cornered because of treaties signed in terms of refugees and asylum the only alternative to bypass this is to find "excuses" to kick these foreigners out of these spaces.

The sale of defective products can be remedy by swift legislation that is not what is going on.

You see what you want to see and not what is really there.

Ironically the bolded describes your position to the tee

Calitoscassius:
Atleast i learned it.. it also proves the education system in Naigeria are better enough to taxes at primary school.

As i said, if you do not have enough money in your pocket to live comfortably. GDP and data means Zilch! a country's "better" economy is supposed to reflect on ordinary citizens financial comfortabilities, quality of lives and their purchasing power otherwise it's all propanganda.

but the same GDP and GDP per capita also proves that many are living better than country X based on the same parameters.. you're arguing on one side of the coin

Sepukku:
ITs definitely propaganda my dear boy.

Why don't they report to you on a constant basis about the number of "European" foreigners who are buying up properties in the Western cape, excluding your people from affordability and partnering with Multinational companies to exclude you from work in the western cape.

SMH.

You see what you want to see and not what is there.

Nonsense. you wanna believe what wnna believe ..so as so play the xenophobia victim card

Someone from Lefereng.. surrounded by foreigners from Zim and Moz, and experiencing their undocumented crime has nothing to do with Cape Twon properties..or propaganda.. people react what they're experiencing from the ground.. you're a mere observer from Enugu.. shut tf up

Maxtipulation:
Coming from someone that has not left the shores of pit toilet

Someone from the capital of open defecation is saying this? Ok

Sepukku:
It is. The number of unemployed youth waiting to be employed by the private and public sector.

Why do think there is a drive to revive the township economy and chase out the heavily entrepreneurial foreigners?

Are they chased because they're "entrepreneurial" of because they're selling defective goods?

[quote author=RandDigital post=133484002][/quote] nahana fela motho atla choma ka VAT!!

Sepukku:
What is it that is happening on ground that you see everyday that is not propaganda. Hmmmm?

I can post more if you wish.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l4Ufp5DOXM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgaEukHgB-k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ2cDHGDd4w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptGQ0fbWrB4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0QYVyE1FgY

At what point is something propaganda ? are news reports propaganda? The word is thrown loosely.. it's an attempt to play the victim card

Calitoscassius:
Now it is primary school knowledge?


Fine! now you and I are clear on taxes. so stop yapping on about taxes or tax! GDP and shit. If you don't have enough money in your pocket at the end of the month to pay your bills, buy petrol and put enough food on your table GDP means Zilch! to me or you.

It is primary school knowledge.. i learned about VAT at what? 5th grade? and here you are presenting it like it's some esoteric knowledge. it's cringe man, come on!

I yap about tax because it means something...data means something... GDP, GDP per capita, etc it's valuable data for a reason

Sepukku:
The two attributes are mutually exclusive.

Case in point:

Nigerians are extremely hard working and entrepreneurial people. Why does their "lesser than GDP" not reflect that attribute?

The answer lies in the variables that make up the calculation of one's GDP.

If 80% of South Africans are indeed lazy as your dumb countrymen like claiming ..there would not one south African going to the mines to mine the gold that's the cornerstone of our economy.. If we're so-called "lazy" then laziness must be reflected.. reflected in data.. it's that simple..

Sepukku:
1. An opinion is a judgment call based on facts.

2. A truth and a fact are 2 different things. A manipulation of facts is also something different as well.

3. There is undoubtedly an immigration or should I say "migrant" issue in South Africa and hence the causal-effect of Xenophobia.

Guy.. I'm the South African I know exactly what's happening on the ground ..you don't !,, you're just an "observer" as you said.. There's no propaganda here..

sort-of-free-car

Calitoscassius:
Well.. i told you i was being sacarstic but you claimed it is the truth so i wanted to indulge you further, businesses pays taxes, individuals pays taxes,VATs when they purchase petrol, commodities from supermarkets, when they are in employment. It isn't a cheap tactics. Anyone who pays taxes should know how much taxes they pay, It isn't an information one cannot disclose. I would be proud to tell you how much tax i paid this year.


Have you ever shopped in SPAR, Checkers or shoprite? Your receipt would indicate how much VAT you paid on every of your visit to shop marts.

You are trying to flex on primary school knowledge ..i mean really who doesn't know this

magzey:
is not their fault most south African are naturally Sad people it let them to envy they are born mostly in broken homes thats why they find it normal to hate even their fellow country people.
Thank God they are gradually coming to their senses.

ANd the funniest thing is you've never met one South African let alone been to South Africa.

Sepukku:
The unemployment rate in America is below 4% which means if I were to land in that country today as an illegal that crossed the border the probability that I would get a job in a few weeks is at 96%.

What is your country's unemployment rate and per capita?

The original comment says South Africans are "lazy" and I'm saying that's not possible based on the size of the GDP and what South Africa is as a country... That's not possible with a majority "lazy" populous

Sepukku:
Easy answers here:

There is an Islamization agenda emanating from certain nefarious elements in the northern elite trying to destabilize Nigeria.

How does this observation diminish the truth about the same propaganda in South Africa.

Let me guess your response will be " Well it's not your country so mind your own business"

Truth is different from opinion.. and yours is just an opinion

There's no propaganda here... it's just lame attempts on your part to sanitize and downplay and make the immigration crisis what it's not..

Sepukku:
The biggest GDP in Africa should be able to support its citizens.

What is your per capital income?

Show me one country where that is absolute... not even America can achieve that

Sepukku:
I am not a victim. I am an observer.

I prefer to rename it as "black on black" hate or Afrophobia but the white monopoly capital sponsored media have been instructed to propagate it as Xenophobia so I am helping them spread it.

Yeah, the same hate you have for each other tribally.. have you also "observed" that. or is that observation exclusive to South Africa? who's sponsoring the "!gbophobia"? the "igbo must go? perhaps your observation skills are best served observing your own issues

Sepukku:
so you are a victim of your new media's propaganda machine.

And I'm guessing you're not? with your daily screams of xenophobia induced by the very same media sensationalism and propaganda

Calitoscassius:
You don't know how much tax you paid this year? talk about being clueless. however taxes are collected you should know how much tax you paid this year to altleast know if you are taxed correctly, you haven't paid too much. Have you ever heard of tax return? tax codes?

Why would I divulge that to a random Nigerian online honestly? And you're begging the question... I asked if you do know how tax is collected or not since you only think only people with a lighter hue that pay tax... you're trying cheap tactics...


All South Africans well immersed with SARS (South African Revenue Services) ...we can't exactly be the highest taxed country and not know what a tax return is