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owo, just as Jesus said, "I have not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets," and so did Mohammed pbuh. He didnt come with a totally alien concept of worshipping Allah hence the reason i mentioned my prostration and Jesus doing the same thing. He was sent with the FINAL message, the Quran. The injil (bible), torah, zabur are mentioned so as to remind those who claim to follow these books that this (quran) is the final message from our creator.

But lets get back to the topic.
KI1 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

CH2 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

Four thousand or forty thousand?

owo, islam references the bible because...its an article of faith to believe in Jesus. I do believe in the teachings of Jesus which we call the injil. What you call "bible" contains some of what was in injil. But your negative thinking about Islam and your ignorance that has been incremented continously and will continue makes it very hard for christians to accept this. Muslims HAVE to believe in Jesus for them to be Muslims. Take this for instance:

Mohammed pbuh is mentioned only 5 times in the whole quran.
Jesus pbuh is mentioned 25 times in the quran.

There is a whole chapter (19) named Mary. She is one of the four/five pious women muslims have the greatest respect for.

The quran references mary more times than the four gospels.

“Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth about which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is.”
Chapter 19, Verses 34-35

“This similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam: He created him from dust then said to him: "Be" and he was.”
Chapter 3, Verse 59

pretty, knowing how difficult it is to deal with my wife, i wouldnt think of getting more difficulty by getting another. But my religion is very considerate. take for example after the second WW, millions of men died and left behind millions of women with children/no children. What does your bible/religion say about handling such a situation?

You've finally said something not even priests would like to admit. Without cruxifiction, christianity is nothing. Without jesus the so called son of God crying for help and his father ignoring him, your beliefs are nothing. What you bascially have to do is ...believe in christ cruxification and you've got your ticket to heaven. It doesnt matter whether you drink, fornicate, put on a short skirt knowlingly tempting men, showing off your thighs, boobs, behind, kiss and play......you got be kidding me. There is a better way of worshipping God. And I as a muslim do things Jesus did that no christianian does.

I bow down, put my forehead on the ground and pray to the Almighty to humble me, grant me success in this world and the hereafter, give me a better health, bless me with obedient kids who are loving and respect their parents and most importantly their creator. Just as Jesus did pray for the cup to be taken away from him. My prayer and his prayer ascend to our creator. The one i share with him. the one he preached to be worshipped and HE gave him powers to heal, raise the dead etc. And you call us muslims enemies! what enemies? because we respect, love jesus for him being a messiah? because we pray, fast and give charity to the poor?

Whilst you get on your knees praying to who? Jesus? did he pray like that? Based on practise, who is closer to Jesus, you or i?

Pretty, you are misquoting me. I didn't say learned Christians dint believe in God. They dont believe in this human sacrifice theory. The fact that you say you cant believe what this world would be without jesus death is absurd. This is the same exact reason why George washington furiously separated religion from state. Such thinking only leads to degradation of humanity and takes us back to the the dark ages. You know why they call it the dark ages? Because people had the exact same thought about religion. He died for our sins, that thats it. They (your priests and christian preachers) imprisoned Galileo because he simply said the sun is at the center of the world and not vice versa.

I'm not better than you nor are you better than me. We all (at one point in time, we were born) believed in the same God. The only differences is my parents thought me about one God and you were thought about Jesus cruxification death. All i'm trying to do is help you realise your original belief.

So whats the solution when you have more single women than man, like in the states?

This is what the quran states and i hope it answers your question:

Chapter 7

11. It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels bow down to Adam, and they bowed down; not so Iblis (shaitan/devil); He refused to be of those who bow down.

12. ((Allah)) said: "What prevented thee from bowing down when I commanded thee?" He said: "I am better than he: Thou didst create me from fire, and him from clay."

13. ((Allah)) said: "Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out, for thou art of the meanest (of creatures)."

14. He said: "Give me respite till the day they are raised up."

15. ((Allah)) said: "Be thou among those who have respite."

16. He said: "Because thou hast thrown me out of the way, lo! I will lie in wait for them on thy straight way:

17. "Then will I assault them from before them and behind them, from their right and their left: Nor wilt thou find, in most of them, gratitude (for thy mercies)."

18. ((Allah)) said: "Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee,- Hell will I fill with you all.

19. "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as ye wish: but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression."

20. Then began Satan to whisper suggestions to them, bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them (before): he said: "Your Lord only forbade you this tree, lest ye should become angels or such beings as live for ever."

21. And he swore to them both, that he was their sincere adviser.

22. So by deceit he brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy unto you?"

23. They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged our own souls: If thou forgive us not and bestow not upon us Thy Mercy, we shall certainly be lost."

24. ((Allah)) said: "Get ye down. With enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood,- for a time."

25. He said: "Therein shall ye live, and therein shall ye die; but from it shall ye be taken out (at last)."

26. O ye Children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover your shame, as well as to be an adornment to you. But the raiment of righteousness,- that is the best. Such are among the Signs of Allah, that they may receive admonition!

27. O ye Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you, in the same manner as He got your parents out of the Garden, stripping them of their raiment, to expose their shame: for he and his tribe watch you from a position where ye cannot see them: We made the evil ones friends (only) to those without faith.

oh oh oh.....God had to turn his face away from his "son"? what a crap...where is this mentioned? how can my father ignore me when someone down the street is drilling nails down my palm, feet? And you say God is loving? This is why christianity is a contributor to the growing number of atheists. Millions who have had bad relationship witht here dads are asked to believe in a God who does similar thing to his "Son".

If God wants to forgive you/us, all he had to do is say it. Why put his "son" on the spot, turn  his face away and have this loving, caring honest man cry and experience this mind boggling execution? Why?

Because you are taught not to ask questions and go beyond this absurd theory of human sacrifice. You are responsible of your own sins and so i'm i. Where is this mentioned? aha

(Deuteronomy 24:16): "The father shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."

(Matthew 7:1,2)"Judge not, that ye be not Judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again

(Ezekiel 18:20) "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."

So Who is telling the truth?

This is the problem with christianity, you have been indoctrinated to believe that God is like man. What you read in the bible and what you believe in are totally the opposite. totally different. Jesus said you cant see God and live. no one has seen God. But you still believe Jesus is God in human flesh? lol....honestly, there's a reason why that verse in pslams was revealed. they have eyes but they dont see. Be a proper christian and stop using this highly charged part of you (emotions) and use what God has given you and i that makes us different from the animals. Intelligence. Use it, read and think of what you're reading before believing in it and posting your ignorance to the world.


Now I understand why scientists and learned men of Christianity dont accept this God/man association. Because God is beyond our reasoning. He doesn’t have mouth, nose, teeth, take a piss, circumcised, begs for food or place to sleep, not begotten neither does he beget and most importantly there's NONE like him. I look up at the stars, read about the laws of physics, amazed by biology (fetus development) and trully understand why God says he is the best of Creators. the magnificant, the best of all judges, the one and only one true God.

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." (Exodus 20:4-6)

"Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the Lord your God, which he made with you, and make you a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, which the Lord thy God hath forbidden thee." (Deuteronomy 4:23)

"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord:" (Deuteronomy 6:4)

"That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else." (Isaiah 45:6)

Islam allows a man to marry a christian/jew woman but not vice versa. Man is given the responsibility of leading a house and is responsible of his wife/kids well-being. If he fails to sufficiently provide for them, then he becomes accountable during the day of accoutability....judgement day. But as mentioned in several replies, most of such marriages sooner or later suffer greatly hence it's recommended for all muslims to try and marry someone who shares his/her faith.

Its a valid question and the answer is we humans have nothing to offer to God. He has created us and sent messengers to warn mankind not to be arrogant and forget why we are here on this earth.

Couple of Questions.....

1.Why was jesus crying "oh God Oh God why have you forseeken me"....? If he is God in human flesh as many christians state, then he should have known that he is going to die to save your sins (i don't believe and wouldnt allow him to carry my sins. I'm responsible for my own actions)!

Why ask God:

“My Father, if it is possible, don’t make me suffer by having me drink from this cup. But do what you want, and not what I want.”


Was his pray answered? rejected? What happened?

2. Why were the disciples shocked to see jesus?  Luke 24 36-49.
What did Jesus prove by saying that he doesn't look like a gost. What was he trying to tell them by asking them to fill him and ate in front of them? ....Let me save you the time. He wasnt a gost.


3. Why was Jesus disguised as a Gardner? John 20:14 Why is he still afraid of the romans? IF he died, why should he be scared to die again? (Luke 20:36 he states that you only get to die once).

Jesus is telling you in the most unambiguous language that he is not a spirit - not spiritualised, not a resurrected person, and yet the whole Christian world believes that he was resurrected, i.e. spiritualised. Who is lying, you or him?

They have a mouth, and they speak not; eyes have they, and they see not. (pslams)

Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). Quran 2:18. Are you one of them? Detach yourself from your emotions and use what God has given us humans what has made us distinct. REASON.


Quran Chp 3.
45. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.

46. "He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous."

47. She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!

48. "And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel,

49. "And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah.s leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah.s leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;

50. "'(I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (Before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me.

51. "'It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him. This is a Way that is straight.'"