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RodeDindu:
Ok, is the ACS Manual accessible on their website? Kindly be specific, is it for First degree or Masters. You know how NUC keeps adding and removing courses in the curriculum.

Here https://www.acs.org.au/msa/information-for-applicants.html
Scroll down to Skill Assessment Guidelines for Applicants. It's on the bottom and will download a pdf document.
Please read everything carefully especially from page 7.

What they do is:
They review your transcript and count the number of credit units DIRECTLY related to computing (usually things that have computer in the name or Software etc) and then calculate the percentage of that against your total credit units in the degree program.
What I recommend is that you look at the transcript for both Bachelors and Masters and see which one has a higher percentage.
Then you can choose whether the MAsters or the Bachelors is your preferred degree for assessment.

Otherwise, you may have to assess in an engineering profession like ELectronics Engineer or something like that

RodeDindu:
@ gurus in the house, Tunlex, Bellong, Abbey and others, I greet and acknowledge the good works you all are doing here.

Kindly advice on my profile please
Age: 41 years old
IELTS English test result: L7,R8,S6.5,W6.5 - General
Educational qualifications with dates awarded:
M.Eng - Computer Engineering ( Software and Systems Engineering option) 2020
B.Eng Computer Engineering (2003)
Many professional certifications
Awarding University(ies)
MICHEAL OKPARA UNIVERSITY OF AGRICULTURE, UMUDIKE
ESUT, ENUGU

Areas of Specialization/ Experiences
Job title(s) -Senior Lecturer (ICT/Computer Eng depts), Systems Engineer and Network administrator, ICT Analyst
Years of experience - 13 years
Preferred ANZ JOB CODE : 263111 - Computer Network and Systems Engineer
Married
Spouse qualification : Nurse (Registered Nurse)
No IELTS

Kindly advice on the way forward, how to get signed employment letters as demanded by ACS as most of the previous private
organizations i have worked with, have gone into extinction, though i can get from recent appointments.

Thanks immensely

Hello.
Before you assess with ACS, please check your transcript before sending and ensure that the courses that have COMPUTING/SOFTWARE are a minimum of 33% (or 25%, I can't remember exactly what's in the ACS manual) of the total courses you did for the Masters/Bachelors degree.

If it is less, they may remove years from your exp. experience.

Dasshboard:
Good morning, please I need advice from the experienced people here.

I plan to migrate through the PR route directly.

I am 36 years of age with 8 years experience in banking.

I studied public administration and graduated with first class.

I will be sponsoring myself with account statement of 8m.

I have a wife and two kids but will like to leave alone and bring them over later.

I will like to know my chances of getting nominated from a regional area in Australia.

Swift responses will be appreciated

Hello.
The place to start on all eligibility for skilled migration to Australia is https://www.anzscosearch.com/points-test/
The Website actually has a lot of information, but you start by calculating your points. [ Select the 189 visa while testing ]

When you've done that, you have to determine which occupation you want to nominate. To my knowledge, banking is not an occupation -they would want to know the specific role in banking. Here's my advice on going about that
Look for a profession within the banking industry that you have worked in, and then ensure that the profession aligns with administration or something to do with public. I tried to search for you but my network seems bad
Play around with keywords such as Public, administration and find the one that is most relevant for you based on your experience.
You should also look at the BACKLOG tab for that profession (You'll see it once you search and select a profession on Anzscosearch) to know how many people you'd be competing with. This may help in deciding the profession you want.
It is also advised that the profession you select is on the MLTSSL List (Click on the List tab on the link I shared)

When you have zeroed in on a profession, and if you have a minimum of 75 points, I think you may have a good chance.

delvinmayan:
Hello Everyone. Compliments of the season. Been going through this thread and really need advice.

I am 33 years old, married with two kids. Graduated with a BA from Performing Arts from Unilorin. Have two years experience as a customer service representative and 3 years experience as a sales personnel. My wife also graduated from Unilorin with a BA in saw course and 8 years work experience with an FG paramilitary outfit.

Kindly help with advice on who is best qualifed to apply between myself and wife and what to do. Thanks

I don't have sufficient details to determine who is best qualified so I will refer you to the site.
Each of you should fill it and then anyone who comes with up with the higher points becomes the primary applicant. Also bear in mind that whose academic degree aligns with their profession between both of you as in some/most cases, if your degree isn't the same thing you are practising you may have some years of experience shaved off or rejected totally.

That said,
The place to start on all eligibility for skilled migration to Australia is https://www.anzscosearch.com/points-test/
The Website actually has a lot of information, but you start by calculating your points.
Select the 189 visa while testing.

ebosh:
Hi,
I need advise on the path to follow for Australian PR and how do I do assess my skill and degree for Electrical Engineering.

Education:
*BEng (Electrical and Electronics Engineering) from Nigerian University 2017
* M.Sc (Electrical Power Engineering) currently studying in the UK to Finish January 2022

Work Experience
* One year work experience in an engineering firm in Nigeria


English language proficiency
* Considering doing PTE or IELTS next month

Marital status: Single

Age: 25 (by April 2021)

The place to start on all eligibility for skilled migration to Australia is https://www.anzscosearch.com/points-test/
The Website actually has a lot of information, but you start by calculating your points.
As you haven't done your English test, I advise you prepare well to have the highest scores ie minimum of 8 in ALL modules of IELTS or similar in PTE.
Your experience may appear small but it may also help you know what to prepare for. Start getting all important documents such as tax, pension etc so that when you need them, you already know what to do

Dude04:
Hi,
I need advise on the path to follow as my 1st degree is not in engineering

Education:
*B. Sc (Applied Geophysics)
* M.Eng (Geoengineering)

Occupation:
*Drilling supervisor (Borehole company)- 3 years in Nigeria

English language proficiency
*IELTS - 8 (will expire in 2022)

Marital status: Single

Age: 31 (by April 2021)

The place to start on all eligibility for skilled migration to Australia is https://www.anzscosearch.com/points-test/
The Website actually has a lot of information, but you start by calculating your points.
Select the 189 visa while testing and from what you have written, I think you should be able to have a minimum of 75 points on 189.

If you do, then decide which your profession you want to access with - especially one that is related to either/both of your degrees and click each of the tabs inside ( Visa Options, S/T Eligibility, Backlog etc)
The backlog will serve as guide as to how many people you are competing with, so in case there are two professions you may be eligible for, choose the one with less competition.

All the best

Dikewilliams:
Please i studies library science under the faculty of education.
I have 9 yrs banking experience
I am 32
Single
BSc
Do I stand a chance ?

The place to start on all eligibility for skilled migration to Australia is https://www.anzscosearch.com/points-test/
The Website actually has a lot of information, but you start by calculating your points.
Select the 189 visa while testing.

When you've done that, search (by keyword) on that website for professions related to banking or whichever profession you want to assess for and see more information about the profession.

Zarinzaima08:
Please help out, after calculating my score I got 80, what's the next step please
Education:
*B.sc ( agric science)


Occupation:
Tax accountant (8 years work experience )

English language proficiency
*IELTS general (7.5)

Marital status: married

Age: 33

The next step would be the profession you wish to assess as. I recommend you search for all professions related to TAX and/or Accounting and read their backlogs to know if there are many people you'd be competing with.
I checked and 'Taxation Accountant' backlog looks like there aren't too many people applying so you would stand a chance, in my opinion, with that.

When you have narrowed your choices, check the assessment authorities and see the one that favors you especially since your degree is not in accounting. Saying this because some of them may flat out refuse to assess based on that, others may shave off years of experience etc.

DJMJ:
Please good evening, I have a quick question.
I have been working with a friend for years now, pay has not been regular, I get paid per project executed, although he is ready to generate pay slip and reference letter for me, and I as a person, I pay my tax by myself every two years from around 2013 and I have tax receipt.
My question is, can I use this tax I paid on self assessment for proof, being that I asked my friend and he said he doesn't do PAYE for his staff. Can I get tax clearance on this.
@ bellong
@tunlex
@knight1

Per Nigerian Tax Law, Tax clearance may be issued ONLY FOR THREE YEARS PRECEDING YEAR OF APPLICATION, ie if you apply this year, you can only get Tax Clearance covering 2017, 2018 and 2019. I advise that you get to the tax office to apply before this year ends otherwise, in about two weeks from now, you won't be able to get a Tax clearance for 2017 anymore which MAY affect the number of years you are able to claim for experience, especially if that profession relies heavily on Tax Clearance Certificate.
I personally do not recommend having the Tax Office giving you tax clearance up till 2013, because it may backfire but if it's something you want to pursue, can't stop ya.

However, it's likely to be sufficient that you have payslips and Tax Receipts. Worst case, meet with the Tax authority in your State, explain that you need tax clearance for that long period (about 7 years calculating from 2013). If they talk about not issuing beyond the three year thing, ask if you can WRITE THEM requesting tax clearance from 2013, attaching your tax receipts, and then they can reply you QUOTING the law that they can only issue for 3 years preceding and the 3 year Tax Clearance Certificate.
You may now use a combination of your Tax receipts, the reply letter (on headed paper) and your tax clearance issued to prove your years of experience.

But as I said, it is likely that tax receipts would suffice. If not, please do the tax clearance application as quickly as possible.

MustBeReady:
Hello,

Just came across this thread and would really appreciate your assistance.
I started up the Australia PR sometime in October, below are my details

Age: 43
Degree: B.Eng
Course: Civil Engineering
Total Years of experience: 18years
IELTS: 7.5
Engineer Australia: CDR submitted

for my Wife

Age: 38
Degree: B.sc & M.sc
Course: Computer Science & Information Tech Mgt
Total Years of experience: 13years
IELTS: 8
ACS : RPL writing in progress

My plan is for both of us to have our own different profiles for 190,189 & 491

Do you guys think we have a chance or there's something else we need to do. Thanks

Hi Sir
I think you have a good chance especially if your wife is the main applicant.
I am assuming that she has a minimum of 8 in each of the IELTS modules and you have a minimum of 7.5 too.
If that is the case, I'll only advise that she checks the backlog of whichever ICT occupation she wants to nominate to be sure that there aren't too many people vying in the same occupation eg ICT business analyst has become very competitive so it needs higher points so you can check other professions that are relevant to her duties or that she can get a reference for at work, and do not have too many people in the 85+ points range. This is so that you don't wait in the pool for too long.

On that, I advice you go through the MLTSSL here https://www.anzscosearch.com/mltssl/ and check the backlog of each ACS profession for her to see how competitive each would be and *maybe* check the STSOL list too (just type ACS in search button). When you've narrowed to a couple of occupations that would be best for you, then check the State Eligibility and what not.

All the best.

hairbyuj:
Based on your advise below is what I found out.

What is the way forward

COVID isn't allowing us see the exact requirements by the States so I really can't tell which States would be inviting for your occupation until maybe February or March.
My advice is that you take the period between now and then to study and get a high score in IELTS. That would put you in a better position if your occupation is nominated. Also, I hope you have proof of employment such as Tax clearance/Bank Statement/Pay slips/ Pension etc
Have you calculated your points using the https://www.anzscosearch.com/points-test/ ?

hairbyuj:
Please sir help evaluate my own too.


Graduated from NOUN (Bsc Environmental sciences and Resources management)

And OND Estate management and Valuation.


1yr 5month with Bank with my OND while doing part time to complete my BSC.


2yrs and 3month in supply chain as a procurement/supply chain officer.


Please where do I start from to for this skill type of skill set and experience.



Kindly advise the process

Sorry I'm just replying.
I don't really have much experience outside Computer and Engineering related professions.
That said, I think you should check the Anzcosearch.com website for a profession that is related to procurement/supply chain.
When you've done that you'll see the body that's to assess you and their requirements. As much as possible, make sure that the profession is on the MLTSSL list (You'll find that on Anzsco too).
You can also ask @bellong, @tunlex01 et al on this. All the best!

Daslimo:
I just checked my score, like you said, it's 65; however, I am a bit confused...so it's either I use B.Eng or Ph.D.?
MSC from another country is not relevant?

1. Unless you have a Ph.D. *already*, I don't know if you can use it as a pathway but you can still find out.

2. In my opinion, the 65 is low and you may stay in the pool for very long with that. I suggest you try IELTS again and try to aim a minimum of 8 in all bands - it is very possible especially if you get one of these international textbooks and/or coaches. That would give you additional 10 points which would take your 491 to 90 points ( i.e 75 + 15 additional points for 491)

Daslimo:
Good morning everyone!

Quick one...I will soon complete my MSc in Korea (in Feb 2021) and intend to apply for PR asap.
I have gone through the posts and clicked most of the clickables and the truth is, the websites are confusing (plus the changing covid19 rules seem to affect everything)

before I proceed, here are my info:

Education:
*B. Eng (Mechanical Engineering)
* M.Eng (Mechanical Engineering)

Occupation:
*Machine Shop Assistant (Mechanical Engineer)- 4 years in Nigeria
*Graduate Research Assistant (2 years) - in Korea

Research Publications: 5

English language proficiency
*IELTS Academic (7.5) (will expire in 2022)

Marital status: Single

Age: 31 (by March 2021)

please where exactly should I start?

The place to start on all eligibility for skilled migration to Australia is https://www.anzscosearch.com/points-test/
The Website actually has a lot of information, but you start by calculating your points.
Select the 189 visa while testing and from what you have written, I think you should be able to have a minimum of 75 points on 189.
If you do, then check https://www.anzscosearch.com/233512 ( that is your profession and click each of the tabs inside ( Visa Options, S/T Eligibility, Backlog etc)

DJMJ:
Good morning elders in the house.
Please I studied and practiced as a civil engineer, but I want to access as a civil engineering draughtsperson, the job description matches what I do and civil engineering is accepted as a qualification.
My question is my reference letter will state employed as a civil engineer but all the job description of a draughtsperson is part of my job description just that I do more than that.
I hope that won't give me an issue with VETASSES
Please any one that had done this process before, please advice.
@bellong
@tunlex

Hi.
In my experience, EA isn't something to be scared of (now that I've gone through it) provided you write your CDR well. Use the draft in MSA booklet AND ESPECIALLY the statements of duties to guide you. If you've been in construction, be very descriptive.
Eg I used a 9mm steel rod instead of a 5mm Iron rod because I determined from my strength of materials knowledge that bla bla. Show your innovation with how you improvised here and there. Put in some technical jargon. State measurements and attach drawings or pictures. I believe you'd be fine that way.

Sorry to bother you (Actually sent a PM)

Do you recommend sending multiple EOIs or should I just click 189, 190 and 491?
(I have 85pts on 189 for Electronics Engineering)
States I'm looking at mainly are VIC, NSW, SA, and maybe QLD?

tunlex01:
no, ko le werk

You cant add experience you did not assess to your application. COs are very fussy with applicants with "almost 8 years experience" and sometimes scrutinise further.
When your experience is officially 8 years, it will be automatically updated on the EOI if you havent gotten ITA by then.
Claim your 7 years and

Hello all.
Kindly help me with this. Thank you

I recently got a positive assessment for my Engineering occupation which gives me about 7 years of experience.
I wanted to know if I could add my NYSC to my unassessed experience on skill selection so I would gain the extra points from 8+ years. The only thing I can use as proof though is the Letter of Acceptance, and Bank Statement.

cc @bellong @tunlex01 @bligs

Thank you.

tunlex01:
You can apply to EA for assessment.
189 is a long thing cos you need a high point which most are unable to get without a recognised degree from Australia.
Look towards 190 or 491 especially.
You can’t apply for nomination at the moment cos no state is currently nominating due to no allocation from the federal government caused by the pandemic. You may want to get everything ready so that you are able to apply as soon as the nomination list is released.

Hello.

Do you have any information as to when the federal government is likely to allocate so that States can nominate again?

NB1912:
If you are working as an ICT Project Manager and your duties doesn't involve Technical work but just strictly Management, then you can apply under Vetassess for Project Administrator 511112. Based on your degree (Electrical and Computer Engineering), they will deduct only 1 year experience. Please note that the assessment for Project Admin is tough as you need to produce lots of documents to support your claim.

Please take note of the highlighted as it will determine if you will get a positive or Negative assessment. Cheers!

Thank you very much. Will check this out immediately.

tunlex01:
Experience not approved cannot be added on Skillselect.
For ICT project manager,
NSW 491 - minimum of 5 years approved experience
VIC 190 - minimum of 3 years approved experience with specialisation in other IT areas apart from web designer, Help desk operator or manager.

Sigh.
IS there anything one can do about this migration now? or this is the end of the road?

mamatwiny:
Same course that I studied. Was it in Futo? I have not had good sleep cos of this ict classification. How many years did they shave off? In my restlessness, I googled on expatforum where someone posted that ACS gave him ICT major ( around year 2006) and he studied electrical engineering in bsc while electronic engineering in MSC.

They took out 6 years of my experience man. 6 whole years. Can't say how devastating this is to my plans.
I advise you to check out EA if applicable.

bellong:
If you don't have electrical engineering experience, there is no point for the reassessment as you wouldn't get any experience points.

I perform IT engineering tasks in my job. It's just not the main part. That's why I was asking if EA also shaves years off experience.

tosanlfaith:
Why was it reduced? They must have given you a detailed assessment result.

I also intend going for ICT Project Manager, hence my question. Although, am still reading the thread, Page 92 - Part 1, let’s just say I want to be fully equipped.

NSW is actually clear. Check their website, you don’t need a job offer and no proof of fund.
The minimum point is 65 and you have to select them on your EOI.

I hope someone else can shed more light on the assessment part

My degree was assessed as an ICT minor. Electrical and Computer Engineering.

bellong:
You cannot add the experience deducted by ACS. I guess your qualification was determined not to contain enough ICT courses.

Oh wow!
I actually studied Electrical and Computer Engineering.
Do you advice I assess with EA as an Electrical Engineer instead (even though my job title doesn't reflect it, and I don't do much of it)

Do they also shave off years at EA?

tunlex01:
For ICT and few other occupations, VIC must send a pre-invite. Other occupations can apply directly for 190.
for 491 VIC, you need a job offer to be nominated.

491 - https://liveinmelbourne.vic.gov.au/migrate/skilled-migration-visas/491
190 (scroll down to 'Apply') - https://liveinmelbourne.vic.gov.au/migrate/skilled-migration-visas/skilled-nominated-visa-subclass-190

Hi tunlex01
Please I need your help.
ACS assessed me and shaved off most of my experience to less than a year.
Does this affect my work experience point in Skillselect?
and which state can I apply to for ICT Project Manager (without a job offer)?

I checked NT, Tas, QLD - Nothing
NSW isn't quite clear
VIC requires employment (Any good chances via INDEED?)

Bodacious1:
I think those checks can only happen when you get an invitation to apply for the PR visa. So all you can do now is pray for a favourable outcome with ACS (since you have already obtained maximum points in English).

Hi Bodacious1
Please I sent you a request for email.
They say I'm assessed as suitable so I may need your specialized guidance going forward please. Thanks

Bodacious1:
I uploaded my transcript myself to ACS (I had requested for a copy from my university since 2018 and I've been using the same copy for a number of other things since that time). As long as the copy you have is stamped and verified/signed by your university, you should be fine.

Hi @Bodacious1 @tunlex01

Thanks for helping so far. I've submitted documents to ACS for skills assessment. I was wondering if there is any thing I could be doing while waiting for the outcome.

Like Health check, Police check etc.

Thanks

Bodacious1:
I don't think the POF applies across all states. The conditions for 190 across all states though are quite "interesting". For instance, NSW requires you to have had a job in your nominated occupation in NSW for at least 12 months before applying for 190 (double check sha just to be sure).

Not sure what your total points are, but seeing as your English is superior proficiency, I suggest you also check out https://www.migration.sa.gov.au. That's the link for South Australia (SA). If your points average 95 (inclusive of state nomination), then 190 for SA may work for you.

Alternatively, you may consider the 491 route.

My total points for State nominated 190 Stream is 90; but I haven't found the requirements (especially the minimum points required for Victoria - Melbourne)
For 491, it's 100 points.

Also,
I read somewhere that Australian Computer Society doesn't accept student copy of transcript for skill assessment
In case you are familiar with their process,
Do they expect to be mailed the transcript from the school, or it's okay if you somehow have a copy for yourself?

Thank you.

@tunlex01

Bodacious1:
Visit https://liveinmelbourne.vic.gov.au/

You'll find detailed information about your targeted occupation and other related requirements.

Thank you very much.
Apparently, they need AUD30,000 as proof of funds.
That destabilized me a bit. Is it the same across board for all states, because I'm already shifting eyes to NSW

Bodacious1:
Visit https://liveinmelbourne.vic.gov.au/

You'll find detailed information about your targeted occupation and other related requirements.

Thank you very much.
Apparently, they need AUD30,000 as proof of funds.
That destabilized me a bit. Is it the same across board for all states, because I'm already shifting eyes to NSW

ogbevireo:
Bros oh, how you take get this score?
no vex, abeg tell us the secret.

I raise my hat in salute!
Kindly share some salient tips from your experience especially as it concerns writing.

Thank you.

Tips for Writing.
1. Write a minimum of the number of required words.
2. Make sure your essay addresses the questions asked (Highly important).
3. Start off with a story - any story - related to the topic. Make it as long as possible, and then start actually responding by saying something like 'As we can see from the above...'

Speaking
1. Address all questions.
2 Tell related stories
3. Watch E2 YouTube videos

Writing and Listening
1. Practice old questions.
2. Review the answers to understand their system eg usually, it is one question per paragraph in reading so you don't need to go back.
3. Always read question first. Tells you what to look for in reading and listening.

Go smash!

tunlex01:
You can include all those years with ACS or mail ACS for clarification cos they tend to remove years from experience.

it all depends on the state. No state is currently nominating ICT Business Analyst for offshore applicants for 491 or 190 except VIC which will send you a pre-invite (when you get such pre-invite cannot be ascertained as ICT occupation is one of the competitive occupations).

Thank you.
Since I'm targeting the 190 stream, I've decided to assess as an ICT Project Manager (which is closer to my actual job and I have a PMP)

I also understand that ICT Project Manager may be moving from STSOL to MLTSSL
https://docs.employment.gov.au/documents/skilled-migration-lists-review-traffic-light-bulletin-consultation-december-2019-february

Can you please share a link to know which state is nominating for this?
(My preferred place is Melbourne)

Thank you so much.