₦airaland Forum

PassingShot:
I salute your efforts at unearthing the facts. Let's hear what those who called the Labour Minister names say to this.

Just as you submitted, it's unbelievably absurd that it's same Nigerians the government is fighting for that are castigating the Labour Minister, just because of politics.

That banks have been allowed to get away with their incessant sackings in the past doesn't mean they will be allowed to continue on that "slave treatment" habit in the new Nigeria we all hope for. Kudos to the FG and the Labour Minister.

Lalasticlala, Mynd44, this is a front page material.

Imagine one Nairalander even asked me if a gun was put to their heads before signing the contract in the first place. And i was shocked at such mental slavery. So because some of these employers are taking advantage of the fact no one is checking their activities, put in some wicked and callous conditions in ur contract .....does that make it right?

I remember a case of a friend with FCMB, he was to pau 2m to the bank, should he resign before 2 years. Somehow, his salary was slashed along the line, and he got VISA to travel out of the country, so he resigned before 2 years. The lawyers of FCMB then started writing him requesting for 2 million naira, fortunately his father is a sound SAN, after research, he simply wrote them back, that they already breached the contract first by slashing his salary, and since he didn't sign any new undertaking with them on the new salary, the previous contract is already void. That was the last time he heard from them

989900:
This already summarized everything.

BTW, the governments spent billion bailing out same banks some years ago which they are yet to repay.

Government monies have been largely funding the banks for years -- you can call the government, 'shareholders'.

The government has turned a blind eye to all their fraudulent activities for years.

The government is asking them to exercise patience for things to turn around, or compensate the employees adequately as stipulated by the law, if they will be fired; not just use and dump them.

But everything these days has to take a political/sentimental turn.

Exactly the point. I couldn't have said better. The government can injected about 600bn as intervention to the so called banks before. They are quick to sack at the slightest opportunity, and are not willing to endure abit with Nigerians.

thesicilian:
It is very sad that in Nigeria, the employee is forever at the mercy of his or her boss. The boss makes unexplained deductions from your salary, keeps you at work beyond official working hours, delays your salary for as much as 2 to 3months without even feeling the need to notify you before hand. But if you even as much as complain or raise up the issue before him, you're either ordered back to your office (if you're even lucky to have one) with the threat of a sack, or sacked outrightly. This has got to stop.

Because Nigeira have been a lawless country, her citizens brain needs to be factory reset. I mean if u read tru all the Labour Acts u will be amazed. Unfortunately even the Nigeria labour Union are even handicapped about the situation. We only here of them when there is increment in fuel pump price

Cc lalasticlala

Modath passingshot omenka demdem dropshot quotasystem
Mynd44 seun 989900 malcolmx et all. Your honourable contributions are needed here

Today, u wake up 4am in the morning, have your bath, prepare the kids, spend hours in the traffic, get to work, settle down, only for u to log on, and see your password have been disabled. You have been sacked!!!! And every one seems comfortable with this development. At the end of the year, they declare mind blowing profits.
They employ as a contract staff, pay you as a contract staff, you work as a full staff,make money for them as a full staff, then when they are done using u, they sack u as a slave staff.

If you are one of those who insulted Ngige, a big Shame on you!

If licenses are withdrawn, doesn't necessarily mean mass sack...ask me how?

Many Nigerians where awakened with a rude shock from the minister of labour and employment threatening to withdraw the licenses of banks who failed to obey the directives of the government on mass sack and come to the negotiation table.

It is a pity that, political differences, tribal and ethno religious hates have really beclouded the sound reasoning of many Nigerians. The honourable minister clearly stated and i qoute

“The federal government gave the licences to the banks to operate and if its directives are not adhered to the licences will be withdrawn if the need arises,” he said.

“We will go a step further if they continue. We know what to do. They need to comply. They need to come to the negotiation table. We halted the spate of sack in the oil industry and we succeeded.

“Even if you are going to lay off, there is a way to declare redundancy, there is a process. Section 20 of the labour act says it. You must call the unions and discuss with them. You don’t just treat them as slaves in their own country and you want us to keep quiet.

Unfortunately the same Nigerians being fought for have been taking a swipe at the honourable minister and the present government for this threats. Hauling all manner of attacks on the present government and the minister. It even degenerated to political party attacks. Was Ngige wrong in his assertions?

Lets take a look section 20 of Nigeria Labour Act.

20. (1) In the event of redundancy-

(a) the employer shall inform the trade union or workers' representative concerned of the reasons for and the extent of the anticipated redundancy;

(b) the principle of "last in, first out" shall be adopted in the discharge of the particular category of workers affected, subject to all factors of relative merit, including skill, ability and reliability; and

(c) the employer shall use his best endeavours to negotiate redundancy payments to any discharged workers who are not protected by regulations made under subsection (2) of this section.

(2) The Minister may make regulations providing, generally or in particular cases, for the compulsory payment of redundancy allowances on the termination of a worker's employment because of his redundancy.

(3) In this section "redundancy" means an involuntary and permanent loss of employment caused by an excess of manpower.

Did any of the banks follow any of the processes outlined in the Labour Act?

As a matter of fact many Banks have even cowered their sraffs into a position where they are not allowed to form any union or join any union within their establishment. Many Nigerians workers don't even know this is very wrong.

Lets take a look at Section 9 subsection 6 of the Nigeria Labour Act.

(6) No contract shall-

(a) make it a condition of employment that a worker shall or shall not join a trade union or shall or shall not relinquish membership of a trade union; or

(b) cause the dismissal of, or otherwise prejudice, a worker-
(i) by reason of trade union membership, or
(ii) because of trade union activities outside working hours or, with the consent of the employer, within working hours, or
(iii) by reason of the fact that he has lost or been deprived of membership of a trade union or has refused or been unable to become, or for any other reason is not, a member of a trade union.

Now my question is are private sectors exempted from the Nigeria Labour Act? A big NO, both private and public sectors are bounded by the Law.

Many Nigerian workers don't even know there rights are being trampled upon by their employers. If you go through all the contents of the Labour Act, you will be amazed at how much your rights have been trampled on. Unfortunately it is already a way of life, that even when a minister tries to correct the abnormally, the slavery mentality kicks in, the political differences kicks in, the hypocritical hate kicks in, and the whole process is stalled again.

Enough of hiding under the guise of scaring investors away. Any investor who have good intentions for Nigeria and her citizens, and are not coming to milk/use and enslave Nigerians will not be scared because of threats or sanctions occasioned by laid down laws being flouted. They knew the law before the came to invest. These investors abide by the laws in other countries and come to Nigeria to turnher citizens to slaves in their own country.

NIGERIANS, ENOUGH OF THIS SLAVERY MENTALITY!

Read the full Labour Act here:
http://www.nigeria-law.org/LabourAct.htm

Please Note; This applies to all private sector. I only used the banks as a case study because of the honourable minister's threat to withdraw licenses of defaulting banks.

TPAND:
A step in the right direction.

Among the 3rd world, Nigeria appears to be the most dollarized.

Nigerian schools with Nigerian founders will demand dollars as school fees
Politicians heap 100dollar bills in their homes
You see dollar at every nook and cranny you turn to.

So u can be this smart?

IRserveMyComent:
Go and catch him na since he has links with them.

You guys littered the internet that Tompolo can not be gone after by the military. Today he is on the run. Clowns is what u guys are

So power bank is now meant for oy erratic power supply. Why are Nigerian's this dumb?

uchelvlink:
Honestly you are embarrassing yourself. Those words actually have meaning. If you are looking for the words in your dictionary then forget it. Some words are actual[quote author=onexile post=46488726]Chineke eeeeh
abeg make una come and see ooooh!
Somebody is saying that the words Neurosm and Anatem dosnt exist on planet earth!
Dude abeg go and do your Take-Home Assignment and sleep, don't forget on Monday is School.

ly found only in encyclopedia.[/quote]Am surprised u clowns have not shown me the meaning of those words in ur latest dictionary.

I hope next time, u know ur match!

People still face book? Deleted my account long ago, those guys breeches privacy more than CiA and every other intelligence agency in the world!

This kind of news from Sahara is never propaganda to wailers

mamabomboy:
A land army with no amphibian training is sent to combat different guerilla ghostmode sects. The answer is simple, the NA will be decimated and butchered like cattle. I just wish the clowns on NL supporting the army's suicidal mission would be drafted by the army. That would be poetic justice.

lol....

All these civilians sef.

uchelvlink:
Honestly you are embarrassing yourself. Those words actually have meaning. If you are looking for the words in your dictionary then forget it. Some words are actually found only in encyclopedia.

I don't care if u are massaging ur ego with alternate monikers or anything, all i want is a screen grab of the meaning of those words with ur latest dictionary. Simple as ABC

onexile:
nawa oooo!

to think you've never heard those words before is beyond imagination.


Dude go ask your English, Physics and Chemistry Teacher for a refund of your school fees.

Stop this senseless rants and do a grab with ur latest edition of dico. I am waiting. U can only fool urself. I am waiting....

onexile:
now i know your level. Trust me dude, we are not on the same pedestal!

Goodnight bro, am done talking with you.

You are just an online noise maker. I challenge u to tell me what neurosm or Anatem is? I think u are Messing with ur fellow illiterates? Cooking words up that have no meaning

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uchelvlink:
but you are not also sincere. I have also followed the argument. @onexile was arguing maturedly, and kept on asking important questions. But the other guy kept on using the words such as 'mental slavery' against him.

The essence of argument is for learning, and not for unhealthy rivalry. I hate it when people starts throwing insults and using fawl languages against another person during arguments, simply because they don't agree with your disposition.


And when @onexile now decided to oblige him, he started looking for who to ban him.

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onexile:
Now you're beckoning on your abient marauders to come ban me? I thought you had the Anatem to counter my verbal conquest? Why are you trying to run now that i have decided to indulge, and exponge your acute neurosm?


Were you not the one who kept on opiniating that i am Mentally Enslaved? Did i not warn you severally?


Now i am ready for you dude. Just bring it On, stop looking for Mods that will separate fight.

Lol. Clown is what u are. U expect me to start childish rants wth u. Hell no! I will give it to u in such a way u can't hold to an insult claim. That is maturity. U think i have time to start exchanging vougal words with u? Or using words that never exist on planet earth. What is neurosm or Anatem? U think u can mess around with words online..... so people of the same category as u are can give u likes

uchelvlink:
Oga i dey see your hand work ooo

abeg take am easy oooo! I will advice that guy not to go this lane with you. Lol

Lol. Na the same sch of slavery thinking una belong na. Am i surprised

onexile:
It's obvious that you are not only foolish, but you're silly in addition. You're a slow cretin whose empty head has been filled with petroleum jelly.

I weep for your phone as it has to endure the macabre touch from your grotesquely leprous fingers. I am hooked to slavery? Just hear yourself? Had it been you took my passionate appeal to take a shower, seriously your brain would have been functioning at tip top shape. But instead you ignored it, and now the petrifying stench emanating from your horribly disfigured body has clouded your sense of reasoning.

I appeal to all Imams and Clergymen to put you in their prayer you really need it.

So cause they were not compelled to sign the contract, that makes it right. Even when the labour law prohibits it. U asked for sections the banks violated like a million times, i answered like a zillion times, even quoted it for u, since u were too lazy, and all u can bring forth is were they compelled to sign?? What a pathetic reasoning. Now await ur ban

Mynd44 lalasticlala, i viewed as a guest with another browser, this particular post is still Active while the aggressor still roams around. I reported this more than 2 hrs ago

laurel500:
The way you started off I thought you were going to say something meaningful..

Gerrraaahaaaareearr

onexile:
You keep talking about 'mental slavery' but from our correspondences so far, i keep wondering between both of us who actually is a victim of Mental Slavery. But i'm not gonna indulge you in that malopiniotic rendezvous.

Now according to you, "the executives of the banks have successfully cowered its workers to working without belonging into any union"

pls can you explain what you mean by 'successfully cowered'?

*Were they under compulsion to sign the contract agreement?

*Are you saying they were oblivious of the terms and conditions applicable to the contract agreement?


I am still waiting for your response. And precisely, the Labour Law you alleged the Bank broke.

Am not done with u. Now act 6.

(6) No contract shall-

(a) make it a condition of employment that a worker shall or shall not join a trade union or shall or shall not relinquish membership of a trade union; or

(b) cause the dismissal of, or otherwise prejudice, a worker-
(i) by reason of trade union membership, or
(ii) because of trade union activities outside working hours or, with the consent of the employer, within working hours, or
(iii) by reason of the fact that he has lost or been deprived of membership of a trade union or has refused or been unable to become, or for any other reason is not, a member of a trade union.

God deliver my people! They are so used to slavery, that even when someone is trying to protect them, political differences wont let them think straight.

onexile:
You keep talking about 'mental slavery' but from our correspondences so far, i keep wondering between both of us who actually is a victim of Mental Slavery. But i'm not gonna indulge you in that malopiniotic rendezvous.

Now according to you, "the executives of the banks have successfully cowered its workers to working without belonging into any union"

pls can you explain what you mean by 'successfully cowered'?

*Were they under compulsion to sign the contract agreement?

*Are you saying they were oblivious of the terms and conditions applicable to the contract agreement?


I am still waiting for your response. And precisely, the Labour Law you alleged the Bank broke.

I just decided to help u. Now tell me which of the banks have followed this procedures.

20. (1) In the event of redundancy-

(a) the employer shall inform the trade union or workers' representative concerned of the reasons for and the extent of the anticipated redundancy;

(b) the principle of "last in, first out" shall be adopted in the discharge of the particular category of workers affected, subject to all factors of relative merit, including skill, ability and reliability; and

(c) the employer shall use his best endeavours to negotiate redundancy payments to any discharged workers who are not protected by regulations made under subsection (2) of this section.

(2) The Minister may make regulations providing, generally or in particular cases, for the compulsory payment of redundancy allowances on the termination of a worker's employment because of his redundancy.

(3) In this section "redundancy" means an involuntary and permanent loss of employment caused by an excess of manpower.

Even though u clearly saw this in my last quote. U still deliberately ignored and asked what law the banks broke again. I smh for my country men

onexile:
You are trying howbeit unsuccessfully to be logical. Pls stop looking for an escape route.

Yes i have read the labour Act, infact i just finished reading it a while ago. Okay now lets argue in-line and within the contest.


So i ask you a simple question, tell me precisely what labour law the Banks has violated in this instance?


I am waiting for your response before we go into the basics of that Labour Act.

First and formost, there is laid down procedures to declare redundancy. It is must u call all unions involved and discuss and negotiate with them. Unfortunately, the executives of the banks have successfully cowered its workers to working without belonging into any union. In fact any form of union is not even allowed in the banking sector, which is a pure violation of a worker's right. The old generation banks, had unions then, forgotten the name they call it, UNI...cant remember. Offcourse, they have also been silenced. Now they have the NLC to negotiate and discuss with, how many of them do that before ur password refuse to log on again. I remember FCMB wrote a letter to my friend then, asking for 2 million because he didn't use the specified number of years before resigning, unfortunately for them, thr guy's father is a Lawyer. He simply wrote them back that, they breached the contract first by slashing his salary after which no new contract was signed. So therefore, the contract at which he was to return 2million to the bank if he resigns before the specific years is void already. That was the last time he heard from them. Free your self from slavery mentality. Imagine a bank sacks u at will, but want u to pay for resigning.

onexile:
You my friend is not making sense. We are in a country governed by Laws, and the Banks as a 'Private sector' has not violated any Law.

The FG can not use the excuse of Unemployment to blackmail Private Employers, moreso, when they themselves are retrenching workers. Or haven't you heard that the FG sacked morethan 3000 Nigerians this yr alone?

Stop using your emotions, use your cognitive domain! You will realise that your disposition on this issue is less than average

May God deliver my people from slavery mentality. Read Section 20 of the Labour Act. Thank me later. in fact private sectors have been violating almost every thing contained i. The labour act. That Nigeria is a lawless country should not cage ur brain into slavery. Who are they banks to even engage in negotiations in the first place when they have banned or union activities. Or u don't even know as a staff of an organization, it is ur right to belong to a union of workers engaged by your organization. My people perish cos they lack knowledge, yet they come on line to argue blindly.
The only way u can make a sensible point ks if u tell me the private sectors are not governed by the labour act in Nigeria

luvinhubby:
$29 billion in forex reserve.
$2.3 billion in ECA
$5.7 billion in NLNG royalties.
$1 billion in SWF.

Do the maths if you are intellectualy able to.

You my friend is a clown

I don't have time to educate u

luvinhubby:
I know how scarce common sense is with your likes, thanks to Ben Bruce.

Is pipeline vandalism a today occurence? No, has been happening for the past 18yrs.

Did oil slump start a year ago? No, began mid 2014.

Buhari has over $38 billion war chest to work, so he has no excuse.

Only dumb & senseless stooges, a.k.a Zombies defend super clueless Buhari.

And your point is? You see the main problem. You can. Ot even think logically? You were the one that left $38bn bah?
Keep cooking figures to suite your wailing appetite.

Oil slump started 2014 and ur hero was already borrowing to pay salaries in feb and mar 2015....

Even madam gele stated clearly that the economy today is as a result of Jonathan's government lack of political Will to save.

dadebayo1:
What is this one saying? Are you okay at all? Make your point without quoting me.. I beg I just bought fuel to run my gen don't let me pour my anger on you...

Who cares if you use aviation fuel to run your generator. Your suffer never start. Se u dey support terrorists....hahahahaha

luvinhubby:
2014 - 2015 - Crude - $65 pb - Dollar 210 - $1

2015 - 2016 - Crude - $51 pb - Dollar 370 - $1

Is Buhari not mad?

It is only God thag can deliver you clowns. Dollar fell as low as 28usd in June 2015. And never got to 40usd till this year, just about 2 months ago, and later rose to 51usd as a result of terrorists activities in the ND. Even at the rate Nigeria is not a benefactor as its production rate have drastically reduced as a result of terrorists activities, which means Nigeria is even selling lesser oil. Now let me remind your deliberate amnesia, that Jonathan and Yarudua used a whopping 20bn dollars for phantom cosmetic defense of the Naira. Should that tried with the paltry $30bn left by Jonathan despite selling oil at an average of $100/barrel for almost 4 years, Nigeria will be a failed country. But you wil wil rather prefer that happens, cos of ur senseless bitter hates.

asokoromadam:
If you are that smart ,why not contribute in the present administration,rather than showing ignorance in the south western website

Mtcheeeew. Typical. Now run with ur legs in b/w ur laps.