₦airaland Forum

@ Ezeuche, stop this tribalistic provocation now!

@ poster,
Don't forget that Ziks NCNC swept through Yoruba land, befoe Awo begged some people to cross to his party. You delusional.

If the op's scenariop is tue, then what is in it for Gbemi, Saraki's daughter. I dopnt think she would have been into the game of sacrificing her ambition. She too must dream of being governor.

Becomerich is always saying that Bola Tinubu is not the Yoruba leader, but Tinubu's party CAN controls most of the South West. So Tinubu is the new Awolowo.

@ seanet, you are a pathetic human being, who has been blinded by tribalism. The sad thing is, e be like say you buy your common entrance.

@ seanet02, you big bufoon. Matemate is becomerich, your Yoruba king in nairaland. Go and eat shit.fool.

Hmmm, the elephant in the room remains this: if Lagos is a totaly Yoruba place, why was it left out of Oodua Group? And let nobody repeat that nonsense about Lag being the FCT. That is a plane fallacy, and we all know it.

@ 2much
There, you have it: straight from the mouth of the Oba of Benin. These are excerpts from a lecture he gave in the University of Ibadan, in 1984. You prolly were not born then. So read, and expand your pea sized brain.

The Origin of Eko (Lagos)   There is a lot of traditional history at both Benin and Lagos ends relating to the origin of what is now Lagos, its ruler and it's connection with Benin. But perhaps to avoid inadequacies and controversy which the academics claim surrounds traditional history, we may like to hear what some modern historians have to say on this subject. Robert S. Smith, in his book of some principal Yoruba owns, especially in and around Oyo, and the westward expansion in the 17th century of Benin Kingdom with it's number of subject towns on or near to the coast, which included Lagos, went on to say this about Lagos in particular: "It's name reflect it's past to the Yoruba it's Eko, deriving probably from the farm (Oko) of the earliest settlers, though alternatively-or additionally-it may be the Benin word (Eko) for a war-camp, We say Eko is a Benin word that means camp" After describing the activities of the armies of Benin under Oba Orhogbua, culminating in his arrival at what is now Lagos, Smith went on to add: "Sometime later the Oba appointed a ruler for Lagos to represent the interest of Benin and to forward tribute there. The man chosen is named in both Lagos and Benin Tradition as Ashipa" Smith says that by Lagos account this Ashipa was an Isheri Chief, while the Benin account says Ashipa was a grandson of the Oba of Benin. We shall come to this later. Smith was, however, satisfied that Benin had established it's ascendency in Lagos and had founded a dynasty there at some period before 1700.The dyansty's dependence on Benin, Smith found, was emphasized by the appointment of another Chief, the Eletu Odibo, who alone had the right to crown the Oba and who in early times probably maintained close connection with Benin,.(Eletu Odibo is a corruption of the Edo equivalent Olotu Odibo) "G.T. Stride and C. Ifeka, in their book titled Peoples and empires pf West Africa have this to say on the same subject: Oba Orhogbua was clearly a strong warrior for he enforced tribute payments from all parts of the empire and in the middle 1550s conquered all the coastal lands up to Lagos where he left a permanent garrison. Tradition in Lagos says that their first Oba, the Eleko of Eko, was a son of the Oba Orhogbua of Benin" It will be seen, therefore, that even if we were to disregard traditional history there is enough material from modern historians to confirm the fact that what is now Lagos was founded by an Oba of Benin who also gave it it's first ruler. But we really cannot disregard traditional history. In Benin tradition, and we believe the same of Yoruba and other ethnic groups in this country, one way to establish that an event in traditional history did occur is by the type of anecdote or adage that evolves from that event . Thus, for instance, We Edo people say that "Orhogbua gb'Olague,ona y'ukpe abekpen z'umwen rie Edo, meaning that Oba Orhogbua defeated Olague and used sword to bring his salt to Benin, This is in allusion of to the exploits of Oba Orhogbua while in his camp (Eko) from where he over-ran the place known as Mahin with it's ruler whom the Benin People nicknamed Olague. There Orhogbua discovered the common rock salt and brought it to Benin who thereby tasted it for the first time. Now the name "Ashipa has featured quite prominently (and rightly too) in the history of Lagos. After the Oba Orhogbua returned to Benin from Eko, he appointed a commander or an administrator, who was called Aisikpa to look after the skeleton troop left in the camp(Eko) until he returned again from Benin. He could no longer return having seen the situation at home. The name "Aisikpahienvoborre" which means "people do not desert their home-land. "This is how Aisikpa, whom the Yoruba now call Ashipa, came into the Lagos (Eko) history. Eko is still there as the traditional Benin name for Lagos; Ashipa has been retained as a senior traditional chieftaincy title while his descendants now retain the modern name of Oba of Lagos. The interaction of Edo people with others in distant lands must have inevitably resulted in cultural exchanges. Excerpts From a Lecture on the Evolution of Traditional rulership in Nigeria given under the auspices of the University of Ibadan, Institute of African studies on 11th September,1984 by Omo N'Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo Oba Erediauwa.

@ 2much
The word is Eko, not oko. Stop trying to twist words.

@ seanet and co. If you have any proof that the Eko theory of Lagos is wrong, give it, instead of throwing insults like its going out of fashion. Reasonable arguments please.
If you just keep throwing irrational insults, they'll take it y'all got nothing to say.

@ seanet, Eko means camp in Benin.
@Ekt_Bear, sorry to bust your bubble, Port Harcourt has always been Igbo. Its traditional name is Igwe Ocha. Its the British that named it Port Harcourt after Viscount Harcourt.
Back to our topic, the origin of Lagos.

Ok, let's say Lagos had a Benin dominated upper-class, because if not, why did the wole territoy take a Benin name?
Also Ekiti was also subjugated by the Benin Empire. So is it now implausible that Lagos too could have been a Benin town, as its traditional name point out.

@ Ekt_Bear,
Yes, the Benin Empire subjugated Ekiti, but the hold was not as tight as the Benin old on Lagos.
Eko was under the rule of fishermen and warriors from Benin for a long time.

@ Ekt_bear,
My point exactly. The Lagosians of today contain remnants of the Benin warriors of old, and many see themselves as Awori, and not Yoruba.
@ seanet 03, point of corection, Lagos has never been a FCT. It has always been a state. Past governors include Buba Marwa, Lateef Jakande, etc. Abuja on the other hand has always been an FCT, and never a state. That is why Abuja has a minster, and not a state governor.
Even when Lagos was Nigeria's capital it always had a governor, not a minister.
Lagos did not join Oodua Group because the Yoruba nationalists regard it as Non Yoruba. The Oba of Benin knows this.

@ seanet, Eko is a Benin word. The name Lagos was given to Eko by the Portugese. Even Yoruba nationalists will tell you that Lagos is Aworiland.

Even SoutWest governors know this. That is why Lagos State is not in Oodua Group. Oter SouthWest states are there.

Ystranger is a disgrace to humanity. RIP to the dead youth corpers.

This may not be the best of times for the infamous cannibal known as ystranger, as his people have finnaly exiled him from his town. News repots state that the people of his town, led by their paramount chief stormed the little bungalow in Ogun state, where ystranger, an unuly youth of 39 still lives with is parents. The traditional chief ordered te town youths to smash ystrangers' laptop, with which he uses to print unprintable tings about dead Igbos. The chief berated him for his infamous suya comment, in which he wished that dead Igbo corpers from the post presidential election violence be used for suya. He was therefore orderd never to sey foot in the village again.
Speaking to newsmen shortly after the cleansing excercise, the chief said,' I apologise to the Igbos on behalf of this bad son. The Yorubas do not eat human suya.'

@ jason, if you don't see anything wrong with someone rejoicing over anothers death, then you are evil yourself. Why not wear a corpers vest, and go greet cpc thugs in Bauchi. Ewu.

@ natasha, he has now come out as zstranger. I guess 'ystranger' has been banned. You can read some zstranger posts even here. The guy aint alright upstairs.

Useless thead.

@ zstranger, you may cpc touts stick a red hot rod down your a** hole.
I wish you were a corper serving in the same polling booth with Ukeoma.
I doubt you would have posted these your ystranger nonsense here. Cannibal. Why you know wan chop suya again? Ewu.

@ ystranger,
Please look at the new post showing the remains of Ikecukwu Ukeoma, a patroitic citizen cut down in his prime, just for serving his country. Now tell me, should you have said tat he and other Igbos should have been roasted as suya? One wonders what kind of a human being you are top have proposed this. That is the RIP you should have wished the poor guy? That they should have used I'm for suya? Well, his killers were decent enough not to have done so. Go ahead and keep surporting genocide in the name of free speech and politics. Clap for yourself.

@ ystanger, use your suya. Nigerian politics has passed the primodial, cannibalistic stage.

Senior Advocate of Suya, have you finised feasting on the body of Igbo youth corpers. Cannibal.
@ ystranger

Jus make sure that the suya wasn't given to you by a cannibal named ystranger. Its liely top be human meat a.k.a anu mmadu.

Hmm, Then he is the lowest of all humans. I am surprised at supposedly sane people like agbofa and bluetooth who continue to justify his antics. Ystranger to me has brought disgrace to the Yoruba. Those fools surpoting him are really clueless. Happy easter everyone.

Word of advice to all: do not collect suya from that guy.

He is a tribalistic one. A strange suya eater.

@ aigbofa,
Sush there, before lightning strike your mouth!
By the way, where is your friend ystranger? Or are you the one? You should be ashamed of yourself.