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TheLoneCitizen:
The last sentence is a banker.

Drogba's success overshadowed by Mourinho.
Salah's success overshadowed by Klopp.
Haaland's success overshadowed by Pep.

Osimhen is going to Chelsea as a king, no blockbuster manager to contend with.
His ceiling is mega high.

Add to that, he's one of the most consistent players at national level.

Scoring just one goal 🥅 in the AFCON is not a hallmark of consistency.

charlesemeka85:
stop cropping and posting this nonsense. Man united have no interest in toney, while chelsea hv an interest he isn’t their top priority for the cf position but Osimhen

Toney is seen as a plan B if Osimhen doesn’t mk the move to Stamford bridge

Your mumu don dey over pour for ground

All the various print media listed below who have very good journalistic pedigree must be talking nonsense. And you in Nigeria know a lot more than they do.

charlesemeka85:
what’s an assumption? Are u sure you have been following Osimhen’s transfer saga or waiting to jump into undue argument just to denigrate him?

If chelsea wanted toney as their top priority they would hv signed him since

Rest abeg

You can say the exact same thing about VO , first it was Arsenal, then Manchester United now it's Chelsea left.

Why haven't Chelsea signed VO since ❓

There are 48 hours left of transfer activity anything can happen.

benji93:
Sorry for the late reply. If your definition of tribalism in this context is related to "a tendency to lean towards one player or another based on their tribe in Nigeria" then I would say I don't remember any of your opinions that fit this description. Of course, there's the long-standing sentiment that you lean toward English-born players. This sentiment is fair though, as there's history to back it up. It is also not an unreasonable bias on your part if you currently reside in the UK or have done so. I mean anyone would be more aware of their immediate environment. There are other reasons I think you have been doing this though.

However, I maintain that tribalism is not a bad thing, and shouldn't be painted as such, but I get the irony it creates in the Nigerian context.

I have been involved in British football ⚽ but more so English football ⚽.

I go to lots of games including youth games primarily in England but across Europe as well.

I've known players from the age of 9/10 who are in the EPL now . I am much more talking about player's I've watched up close and personal, even know personally as well knowong their coaches and agents.

I would call that knowledge not bias or leaning towards. And that knowledge is primarily in regards to players in England.

Finally I never left Nigeria 🇳🇬 I came to Nigeria, born in the UK but made in Warri .

Oh yes still reside in England but will be in Nigeria next month, unless this monkey 🐒 pox thing get out of hand .

Then there may be restrictions put on travel 🧳 to sub Saharan Africa

charlesemeka85:
Toney is among the options Chelsea are looking at if Osimhen’s deal doesn’t go through

Their number 1 target is Osimhen

Dude 😎 that's an assumption look at commentary by pundits.

First thing said about Toney is he is tried, tested and proven in the EPL. So you know exactly what you are getting. In addition Toney plays a very good link 🔗 up
game.

VO is where the EPL concerned a risk he has had only one outstanding season in his football ⚽ career with great potential to go further.

Chelsea are talking to both VO and Toney .

Although Toney is also talking to Manchester United.

Nonetheless, Napoli want to cash in on VO they don't need Lukaku and VO at the same time.

I think Napoli are just posturing and are desperate to sell VO, and VO is not ready to drop his wages.

It's interesting and highly unpredictable let's see 🙈 what happens.

lbrichman2:
Early days
But I can tell that Ola Aina and maybe Zaidu will thrive in this setup
Looks like he will finally address our midfield concerns
I like his ideas and I'm eagerly looking forward to seeing the players he would invite
I also think Iwobi and Aribo will thrive in this setup

Our strikers will get loads and loads of chances

Fingers crossed

Zaidu is a carpenter we need much better than him to progress.

Mujtahida:
Why are you always thinking negative. My God!

There is a difference between being fanatically optimistic and being REALISTIC.

Ighalo was the highest goal scorer in the AFCON when he last played we then kicked🦵🏿 him out and forgot him.

Essentially because he is in the Saudi league many of you here said.

Now look at the hypocrisy and bigoted double standard, you still want VO even if he plays in the Saudi league.

I then asked if Ighalo scores more goals in the Saudi league than VO, will we then drop VO and invite Ighalo ❓

What's negative about that I think 💬 that's a positive statement.

TheGoodJoe:

So after these, I don't think you were right saying Lukaku is on par with Osimhen when it comes to speed.

Finito.

You are completely deviating from the substantive proven assertion which I made.

Which was VO could not have been the 3rd fastest player in Europe when he cannot make the top 15 in the English Premier League.

You then bring in the comparison of Lukaku with VO and imply Lukaku is slower. But you just created that assertion from your mind nothing to substantiate.

VO fastest speed is just over 35km proven and establish do you agree.

Well at Manchester United Lukaku did 36km/h plus.

Danielnino00:
Your blood is always hot when Osimhen matters are on the menu... relax....
What thegoodjoe failed to point out is that the report was made in[b] September 2023... [/b]so yes,as at that time, he was the 3rd fastest in Europe

Modified: Even at that,Osimhen is easily one of the fastest strikers in the world.. his pace is one of the main attributes about him

Because I don't jump 🦘 on your emotional favouritism driven roller 🎢 coaster of disinformation. You will call it Hate.

Please open your eyes 👀 the statistics relate to 2023/24 and from VO top speed he would not be in the top 15 in the premier League.

So how could VO therefore be the 3rd fastest player in Europe, please explain without prejudice.❓❓

Napoleon55:
These three players are designated penalty takers in their various clubs,Osimhen is not.

Have u ever stopped and consider if he were to be the penalty taker for the last three seasons he would have scored close to 30 goals for each season?

IF is a very big word.

You are clutching at straws and the wind 🌬️ is blowing your nonsensical proposition away.

charlesemeka85:
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He looks like his Mum

Truidstarr:
It is baffling that someone is anticipating siasia…to come and do what exactly?

Agree 👍🏿💯

We are too comfortable with corruption and convicted proven individuals known to be blatantly corrupt.

TheGoodJoe:
According to Transfermarkt, only Borussia Dortmund winger, Karim Adeyemi (36.65 km/h) and Chelsea's Ukrainian winger, Mykhailo Mudryk (36.63 km/h) are faster than Victor Osimhen in the top five.

Osimhen, who is the Serie A top scorer this season, also clocked 35.88km/h against Inter Milan and 35.45km/h against Salernitana, putting him second and fourth respectively on the list of speed demons in the Italian topflight this season.

https://www.alimoshotoday.com/sports/osimhen-among-top-5-fastest-players-in-europe-6565811

I admire your emotive based preference and favouritism but it's not factual.

From established substantiated statistics VO is not even in the top 10 of the EPL .

How therefore can he VO according to you be 3rd fastest player in Europe's top 5 leagues❓

Please explain 😲

Looking at his top speed it's possible VO may not even be in the top 15 in the EPL.🤔

Napoleon55:
People are talking about whether it's OK for him to go to Saudi or not and u are talking about bringing back Ighalo, is Ighalo the next striker in line to replace Osimhen .

You just want Osimhen out of top 3 league so that u will have enough things to say about his talent.

Please read the comments l responded to before you start chatting balderdash and codswallop.

Marjoribanks:
It is baffling, how Osimhen managed to score 15 goals in 22 games in this Napoli team?

This team is awful!

It's actually 25 games in Seria A 2023/24 not 22.

TheSuperNerd:
Osimhen did it yes. At Lille. And he is that fast. Haaland is fast too but I think Osimhen edges.

Actually Haaland is faster that's documented and quite a few others. But speed is not the be all and all of the argument in the quest for Quality.

TheGoodJoe:
Keep in mind that the only time Victor Osimhen got to work under a highly rated and tactically disciplined coach, he excelled. This shows you that with a sound team and teammates, he can even do far better than he did.

That is the catch. Osimhen can comfortably be a consistent 25 league goals a season striker.

I am not 🚫 considering the why , if and or possible.

Just how it stands the bare faced statistics no addition or subtraction.

Forget your sentiments and preferences.
😲

Philosopher1979:
Lukaku cannot bench osimhen . Osimhen will be a good support striker or wing forward. His non goal scoring attributes are very impressive. It is his ability to disorganised a defence that is one of his most underrated strength. He us reminiscent of strikers like amokachi. Drogba, Emily husky who wear down defenders for others to score.
Kukaju definitely can't bench him. Lukaku lacks his energy and mobility.
The season is too long. Let it be 2 nil down in a match snd there will be calls for osimhen

Put Lukaku in the same structure as VO as a quintessential number 9 with him being the focus of attention.

And there will be problems who to choose.

Is VO faster than Lukaku probably on par , who is stronger definitely Lukaku, who is more technically astute Lukaku shades it. Who has better Finishing all round to me Lukaku, aerial ability I think VO.

ALL round team play for me Lukaku with a better passing range.

Who is more aggressive and farbbetter work rate for me VO.

Who wins only time will tell 😊

TheSuperNerd:
I think if all goes well, Osimhen to the Saudi League for just one season won't be bad at all (if no European team can bag him this window).

Infact, he will earn the top wages he demands, bang goals... and have a clause inserted for immediate return to Europe the following season. He will be 26 then on his European Big 5 league return and would only turn 27 midway through the 25/26 European season.

This could set him up nicely for a battle over his signature to rage on with him having to pick now.

But then... I only approve of this strategy if no team in the Euro Big 5 can match Napoli's valuation of him AND MORE IMPORTANTLY SINCE LUKAKU IS JOINING NAPOLI AND CONTE HAS NO PLANS FOR OSIMHEN.


Conclusion: I would rather Osimhen plays one season in Saudi Arabia earning BIG BIG BIG BUCKS and return to Europe with an easy release clause than to rot in the stands at Napoli.

What if he doesn't score more goals than Ighalo in the Saudi league ❓

Will we drop him and recall Victor Ighalo ❓

Starboytwo:
I'd like to know how much halland, Mbappe, Kane [/b]commands weekly, I believe Osimhen should not be far off from the aforementioned trio.

Since Nunez is no more a striker but a quintessential winger, so it's only right you pay the money for a quintessential striker. A striker that will BANG it.

Im not worried at all about the protracted transfer. We are not begging, you need the [b]Goals you gotta pay the quintessential wages.

VO is very far off from the above mentioned players and may NEVER get to the level 🎚️ these three players have got to. They are consistently world class players over several seasons in their leagues.

Kane just destroyed the Bundesliga 32 games 36 goals last season that's CRAZY. Mbappe and Haaland since teenage years have been hitting crazy goal figures.

VO has only scored more than 20 league goals once in his entire football ⚽ career and that was 2022/23 were he got the golden boot with 26 goals in Seria A.

Prior to 2022/23 Seria A season, VO has never scored more than 15 goals in a season in all the leagues he has played. Is that what your call world class pedigree ❓I would say potentially world 🌎 class but not there yet 😞

Nunez is a striker that has had to adapt to playing as an inverted striker winger in Liverpool. He simply struggles he is more technically astute than VO but still struggled.

VO has always been the focus of attention the head 🗣️ of the diamond 💎 as a quintessential number 9 striker everywhere he has played.

If he goes to any of these clubs he will not be the "Star boy" focus of attention where the team is structured around him. And you think 🤔 he will just BANG IT.

VO played in the AFCON and scored one goal 🥅 he played against Liverpool over two legs and he got bullied and out sprinted and out muscled 💪🏿 by Konate and Van Dyke. That should tell you something about the EPL .

I think his best bet is PSG not going to be easy because he is nowhere near as good as Mbappe. But he will do enough I hope to satisfy the huge transfer fee.

TheLoneCitizen:
Osimhen improves the side, no doubt.
But he disrupts it.

You see the way Jackson was subbed off, you can't do that with a marquee striker.

With the amount of players they have in that position, a big-name will disrupt the squad.

Tuchel did it to Lukaku as well as Manchester United why can't it happen to VO ❓

123jamessmith:
There's a Nigeria player in Everton, his name is Tim. I think the guy play very well in there last match. I want to know if he need Fifa approval to play for Nigeria.

What age group ❓

I know there best prospects is a U16 midfielder already playing for England U16.

Amedino99:
nunez is not a 9

Quintessential number 9 he is not .

At Liverpool he plays as an inverted winger and number 9. But he is not that good at it and he has struggled to adapt..

Bannedlargejr:
The main reason why people describe him as a one season wonder is because he has scored 20 league goals once in his career. I’m not the one that created that standard and if any of these strikers you listed had scored 20 league goals once, they’re also a one season wonder. Lukaku to Napoli confirmed Osimehn to Chelsea LOADING

Truth be told .

Marjoribanks:
Mauni, Nunez, Anthony, Mudryk etc were $100m and nobody is demanding 3 goals per game. Nevertheless EPL defence is crap and Osimhen will ...

You are being overly emotional again and cannot see for your blinded fanaticism you are a true Fan. No objectivity just sentiment.

Nunez, Anthony, Mudryk are not quintessential number 9's and expectations were not as high. Nonetheless, they all came from less competitive league than the EPL with huge expectations and the flopped badly 😮.

You said EPL defenders are rubbish therefore anytime he plays he should score and therefore be at least in the top three top goal 🥅 scorers.

Many here think he is better than Haaland so he shouldn't score less than 25. That implies that VO record against EPL clubs is unquestionably outstanding.

Bannedlargejr:
I personally don’t think he will flop nor shine next season at Chelsea considering that he has only been a one season wonder this far in his career. I expect like 15 league goals on his first season

If his transfer fee is in excess of £100 million then he has to be exceptional and among the top three goal 🥅 scorers in the EPL. That will be the minimum expectation, 🙂 big fee , big expectations.

Bannedlargejr:
Marc guiu missed an open net today. The gods are in favor of osimehn to Chelsea because pressure is getting worser

That's a very obdurate way to look at things.

It means there will be undue and over bearing pressure on VO to perform and be the outstanding player to rescue Chelsea.

Thats not just a two edged sword 🗡️ but a poisoned chalice.

maidaboi:
Saka back up?

No

Saka is naturally left footed and Ademola is right they are not in competition.

Tessyy1701:
Someone mentioned him yesterday or two days ago

I talked about him over three seasons ago .

Tessyy1701:
How many Serie 'Z' did Okoye played before he was invited? Stop making it look like we have a prime Bosquet or someone close in that role. Nothing bad in trying him out.

You are being overly emotional one game doesn't make a player. And it is not enough justification to invite a player who has essentially done nothing outstanding.

Even that one game is far from conclusive.

In addition there are too many other players across the top leagues of Europe of Nigerian origin to be considered.

Don't forget its Seria B don't over gas things

joseph1832:
Is an eighteen year old able to pay his or her house rent, pay bills, feed themselves and the likes, in Nigeria today?

This is among the rubbish you tell yourselves. As long as a person is still financially dependant on whoever is looking after them, that person isn't an adult and that person can't take decisions on their own. So, stop deceiving yourself.

Please please don't use your personal circumstances to assume everyone is like you.

First of all the context is not Nigeria but the UK 🇬🇧 you don't seem to have noticed. At university while studying Mathematics my associate was on an internship online with a bank his Christmas bonus was £ 5000.

If you don't know about something don't spread disinformation in your frustration.

By the way I know teenagers in Nigeria working online in IT getting paid $3/4 k dollars a month living independently of their parents in Lekki Lagos. Some of them were still in university at this stage earning more than both their parents.