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TheGoodJoe:
You know nothing about Finidi to say you stand with his integrity. Not saying Finidi lacks integrity but saying your statement is solely based on bias.

As for coaching badges, tell me why top clubs stick to coaches that have it, if it is just a driving test.

You call a course that literally shapes ideas, have practical sessions and theoretical sessions driving test.

Maresca got his job at Manchester City based on his coaching badge performance and his thesis.

How many people have got the UEFA pro badge in the world , literally thousands does that make all of them top coaches automatically ❓❓

Goke7:
The painful thing is that we will never learn and keep repeating history over and over again, arrogant nonsense. A new coach will need a series of games to firm up his strategy but we like to form James Bond, ok here we are. Make we dey deceive ourselves we will win the next 5 games with a new coach starting all over again.

Finidi was given a poisoned chalice, he was set up to fail considering the circumstances.

Now they can arrange a third rate European coach pay him in 💲💰🤑 and take 50% for themselves.

It's how we DO.

TheGoodJoe:
Then imagine how awful it is without badges.

Badges don't make you a good coach.

Just like passing your driving test and getting your driving license doesn't make you a excellent driver.

I don't think the issue is the competency of the coach .

The NFF is corrupt and officials are in it for one thing "pecuniary" interest 💸🤑💲. We have known there is historical past and present continued godfatherism.

I have known personally two NFF chairman and I do not 🚫 believe considering the ingrained culture that Finidi had a free hand in player selection.

First problem was the team selection. Look at the Euros now do you see any player not in form selected or selected on emotive preference. You may see one or two but in general a big NO.

The only basis for team selection is outstanding consistent top level performances in your club and league. We cannot dismiss the quality of the league either albeit there are exceptions.

We had a midfield devoid of outstanding technical ability, creativity, innovation and unpredictable skills for competitive advantage. Outside of Iwobi and Fisayo, we had a series of water carriers, Onyedika, Ndidi, Yusuf, Onyeka ( rumoured injured)

We then took to these qualifiers players who offered little or nothing and or where out of form and it recovering from injury. For example, KC, Ndidi, Yusuf, Awaziem, Onyeka, Onuachu, Ismail, Igboke, Onyeka ( injury ❓), Tanimu.

That's shockingly incomprehensible 10 players in a squad who should not really be there.


We now want Finidi to carry out miracles add to that they were mostly coming to camp very late. Not exactly the players fault multiple reasons national strike, logistics, etc

Ajayi is not out best central defender, it was rumoured that Ekong our wall 🧱 of Jericho was recovering from injury, but claimed to be fit. However we found no problem with KC , Onyeka, Ndidi & Boniface all recovering from injury. It was obvious that Ekong was a big loss we did not find a comparable replacement.

We played SA with Osayi playing LB a player who has never played that position before. We then played KC as a Right winger he just doesn't have the skill set to play that position, not surprising he was shambolic on the day.

I would still appoint Finidi, if we are to be honest. Just looking at the team selection no one was filled with confidence against SA. Yes sentiment and emotive preference created a bravado of expectations that was based on thin air.

There were multiple options to have invited and explore to choose players from, but we chose to recycle and not pursue best quality.

I stand with integrity of Finidi don't think the blame rests with him , he probably thought 💭 he could make something out of a bad situation.

joelsteron:
I'm sorry Raphael Oyedika is not so defensive minded as you put it. Man has goals in his feet. And has proven himself.

If a midfielder has goals in his feet as you have put it , then it should be proven in his club and league. Do you agree 🤔.

So tell us how prolific he has been in the Belgium league with goals and assists please ❓ To prove your your notion, "Man has goals in his feet"

Please

EEGA:
Finidi made the mistake of playing both Ndidi and Onyedika in the same mid-field.The both failed to click as a double pivot.

Whenever they start together there is no clear definition of roles.

The pair did not click against Mali.

Against Mozambique a mid-field pivot of Onyeka and Onyedika clicked.

Our mid-field should have been Onyedika,Iwobi and Dele Bashiru.

or

Ndidi,Iwobi and Bashiru/Olawoyin.

You play two defensive minded players with very limited innovation creative ability it's a recipe for disaster.

yinkeys:
I’d like to believe Keshi wasn’t taken serious as a coach in Nigeria until he took Togo to the World Cup
Amunike helped qualify Tanzania that’s probably not a serious football nation to the Afcon in a long time they hadn’t done that
Amunike helped conquer the u17 tournament
I’m assuming he’s probably doing something on the side with regards to coaching in Spain
I think he can do something amazing with the eagles, some of them are products of the u17 process he managed or assisted in

Youth football is not senior football it's not the same AT ALL. It's not a basis for senior appointment to the SE.

jihday:
for a start the next coach need to throw Awaziem away, since 2017 or so he has never been a starter despite playing under 4 different coaches. His spot should be given to a younger and more productive defender

Shockingly 🥺🥺go and check how many games he played for almost relegation bound Boavista in the Portuguese league.

joelsteron:
Onyedika and Nwakali, everybody have seen what both are capable when you talk of passes and shooting with precision.

You are talking balderdash.

Who is everybody please ❓

Onyedika is not an exceptional passer of the ball, good but not exceptional.

villagereporter:
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Yet we can statemanly go for the best, c ehn broda, dis country is not broke but unfortunately we have silly, daft, nit-wit and dimwits in the glass house who think about their pockets only.

Thank you 😊

But sadly that mind set pervades every area of endeavour in Nigeria. Go and renew your passport 🛂 or car documents or try to get your transcripts from a Nigerian tertiary institution.

Or should we talk if the Nigerian judicial system 😲😲😲😲

villagereporter:
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But he stamped the current mess with his authority through clueless players invitation and inept tactical dunce.

I don't think he was singularly responsible for players selection the NFF will still bring in their favoured ones .

The NFF is corruption ridden and has been for decades.

Napoleon55:
So u admit that those teams in the past that comprises of only players born in Nigeria are better than this current team that is mixed right?

That everything else in Nigeria have regressed is not an excuse, and it's not true.

We have artistes born locally here in Nigeria making waves globally,hitting more success,some of them winning Grammy awards, the topmost award in the global music industry,unlike in the past.
whether the music our artistes play today is of better quality than before is a topic for another day,
but in this state of affairs in Nigerian, they were able to achieve so much.

The same with our athletes,
Tobi Amusan is,or probably the best female hurdle athlete in the world.
Favour Ofili is coming up and proving herself to be among the best female athlete in the world.
our female athletic team is a potential Olympic medal winning team.

I believe our football team can achieve success also even in this present Nigerian condition when the right people will find themselves in charge.

You should always pay attention to detail and specifics. I used the qualifying diction, "ALMOST" everything.

The pertinent component that made the SE teams of 1994 and slightly beyond so successful was not 🚫 because they were born in Nigeria.

But QUALITY the Nigerian league produced players who went to the best teams in world football. The SE players at that TIME , were predominantly from top European teams some even top goal scorers in their leagues like Yekini. Ajax was a power house in world football at that time with players like Olise, Kanu, Tijani, Finidi etc We had the prince of Monaco Ikpeba, we had Jjay, Taribo all playing in top clubs.

It was not because they born in Nigeria, I mean there were a few not born in Nigeria who played like Efan Ekoku but not many.

Tobi Amusan was born in Nigeria finished secondary school in Nigeria. But then where has she been developing her talent and in the process getting a MSc from Texas university same university as Okagbare while Ofili is developing her talent at Louisiana university.

The place of Birth is inconsequential in her in athletic it's the place of development.

You mentioned 🎶🎵l agree 💯% these musicians artists are 1000% Naija signed created nurtured, developed,educated, and delivered to the World 🌎. They are the most positive export alongside Nollywood we have.

The place of birth is completely inconsequential and of no significance to determine commitment, integrity, desire, etc

The people who have raped this nation since it's inception were not born outside but within.

Napoleon55:
These players u have mentioned with this current super eagles team,
in comparison to our previous teams that is made up of only players born in Nigeria (Tunisia '94 team,2002 silver winning team and 2013 AFCON winning team)
Which team would u say is more formidable and play better football.
This team or the previous teams.


I'm in no way against integration of any foreign born that shows desire and ready to play for us.

Desire is a very perceptive led deduction not an objective one, so l will not even talk about it.

I don't think you want to compare two different generations of football, it's too problematic.

What l will say is our players in 1994 , were on top of the game playing in the top teams of Europe. We had Amunike and one Gbenga who both played for Barcelona.

Ajax was a European football ⚽ powerhouse then and we had several players that went through Ajax.

Now just like almost everything else in Nigeria we have regressed badly.

Katcall:
We keep depending on these washed up foreign born talents. All these guys don't have the passion and commitment to play for Nigeria. They were raised abroad. Playing for Nigeria feels like playing away from home

I can see 🙈🙈🙈 you are wise and knowledgeable.

Most creative midfielder in the SE Iwobi came from Nigeria academy and local team. Out best defenders Bassey Aina and Ekong came from Ogborikoko united in Warri.

Out highest goal scorer in the last AFCON Ademola came from where, Ajegunle all stars.

Wise man you talk well.

Toylove:
I want chukwuemeka
That guy is good

He is very good and only 20 and on a 100K a week with Chelsea.

When he was 18 he was already outstanding for Aston villa refused to renew his contract and went to Chelsea.

Truidstarr:
These NFF guys should not be trusted with their choice of technical adviser. It should be properly scrutinized. Egunje fit dey part of the arrangement.

Dude 😎 are you being serious.

In Naija egunje is intrinsically linked to everything we do particularly more so with public funds.

Every area of endeavour in Nigeria has been affected by egunje even church is not free 🆓

And you think THE NFF will be an exception.

Mujtahida:
Nonsense even foolish post. If Okoye likes let him keep for Man City. The point is that as far as performance in the GWG is concerned, Nwabali is miles ahead of him until he proves he's good enough to man our post again. We have seen both of them in action for SE. We know who is better for SE notwithstanding the clubs they play for.

Wise man you said nonsense 😡

When was the last time Okoye played for the SE please ❓ Do you think he remained stagnant 🥺 it's quite obvious he has improved tremendously.

Consider the bold how else can he prove himself 🤔 Dude has had a exceptional season and you say he needs to to prove himself. Who is being nonsensical here 😴

The basis for national selection is outstanding consistent outstanding top level performances in club and league.

I would say beyond all doubt Okoye has proven himself to be Quality and qualified for the SE🥺🥺

Philosopher1979:
Ebenezer Akinsanmiro u forgot
Tochukwu nnadi
Daniel daga
There is one foreign born in Aston villa ask komekn about that.
Yeah there is samson tijani

Tim Iroegbunum
Chukwuemeka Carney
Lesley Ugochukwu



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAMygmzdzaU?si=81e7zNg5nddfKQmO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnh4R3H5o4w?si=NdFniFSf1ITw4cJB


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJun9Xp_pO8?si=hOj45ytURXtxVZAw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8eF_5hAYhk?si=LrFQu8Jn6v2ha4D3


None of these guys are getting into England anytime soon. As a result to they will be most likely open to playing for Nigeria.

So also is the same situation with Noni Madueke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5b9E57mhnE?si=GscbvNZOh3RhrKtr

As it stands the NFF had the opportunity to have capped Tosin Adarabayo ages ago. But as usual wasted time, for reason known to them the NFF alone.

We need better CB defenders, the recycling has to stop 🛑.

Goke7:
Fisayo nko at least e get shot small

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xJUwR-0j-M?si=bt3V2WwELXumfI6-

faithtemisan93:
Nwabali is miles ahead of Okoye


And it has been proven

Do you know what the phrase "miles ahead" means 😲

Then your dig yourself into a even deeper ditch with notion it's "been proven"

This being the case taking hold of your two notions mentioned above verbatim. Can you share , what unit of measurement you used to substantiate this notion please ❓

Okoye plays in Seria A for Udinese , using your description I could say is ," miles ahead" of the South African 🇿🇦 league, anybody disagree ❓

That's not still conclusive, who is better. The depth of difficulty in maintaining a clean sheet in Seria A is not the same in the South Africa league.

It's quite apparent that it's much more difficult in Seria A than SA league. Nwabili had 11 clean sheets and Okoye had 5. Who is better still not very conclusive.

Let's look at the public gallery or market place , clubs do a lot of analytics before buying a player sometimes over several years. Club transfer interest is an indicator of quality.

Who wants Nwabili several clubs in SA as well as in the Eredivisie and Championship specifically QPR and of course there is Saudi.

Okoye wanted by Roma and Inter Milan.

I think you show your lack of knowledge and youthful exuberance more sentiment than objectivity. Below Okoye YouTube clip's again not conclusive just indicative.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWNtc4-Q1g?si=8D8IIua3PntZfBQq


Also below clips of Nwabili


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NdngI9KNuE?si=FVa6yYuRke48qWat

No sentiment, I am going to look difficulty of execution of league and my view would be that Okoye for now has the edge, it's not a huge margin.

On the other hand I believe Nwabili in a better league, better training facilities and coaches will improve and could find himself in the EPL in the near future.

Either way win win for Nigeria two quality goal keeper is a plus for the SE.

FairlyUSEDpussy:
Can we just gather all the old political greedy thrives and set them on fire.......

Tinubu......
Peter obi......
Atiku......
All inclusive........

Petet Obi is neither old or a thief

For the rest I your list a resounding big YES

yinkeys:
Nwabali is better than Okoye o
Don’t know why you guys are disrespecting Nwabali because he’s not playing in Europe

Nwabali appears more comfortable with the ball on his feet and playing from the back.

Okoye still has a lot of experience and playing time to do to catch up with Nwabali
Udinese that were somewhat battling relegation
That’s how you guys will say they should use a gittery national team goalie and blunders would reappear left and right
Bassey made an error and Nwabali did the right thing
He was quick to action
Unfortunately they scored
None of the goals were his fault
The last time he made an error was corner kick against Ivory Coast in final where he misjudged and came out of the post
His quick thinking and rushing out made us avoid a clear one on one goal situation against South Africa
The one Taminu eventually nodded out

Nwabali made a huge school boy error, running out of his goal 🥅 in panic leaving it WIDE OPEN gifting a goal to Ishola Olaitan.

Bassey missed the clearance but had time to recover narrow the angle, block the shot, out muscle Ishola and or tackle him.

Nwabali gifted the goal 🥅 poor decision making.

Nwabali is not better than OKOYE that's not proven, add to that players improve. The Okoyr of today is not the same as yesterday 🤔

Philosopher1979:
Stuff is Nigerian football had a coaching problem. From my observation the average Nigerian coach lacks knowledge of basic things in modern football.
Coaching is fundamental to football as teaching is to education. We don't coaching seriously.
Most Nigerian players are badly coached from their youth that's all. We need a coaching revolution.

Agreed 💯 without question ❓

Gajagojo:
There is no bubble to burst I was an adult when we first went to the World Cup. I know when we won the nations cup for the first time. I remember Odiye''s own goal.
So I know where we used to be
Many kids now think it is a right to be on top without earning it saying ordinary Benin as if it is by mouth
If it remains so for 20 years it is no tragedy . One day it will change because we have it in us but we must work

The koko is that there are good players all over Africa especially West Africa

Where did George Weah Come from?

A basic thing like appointing a coach on time should not be an issue

The starting point is government should stop funding NFF let the private sector fund it and control it like a business.
Afterall FIFA does not allow government control so why is government putting money that encourages corruption

African players are dominating European football.

Many find this a hard pill to follow.

But the reality is that the bulk of our top level players are going to come from the diaspora. As the nation contends with decades of failed leadership. The word we hear 🙉 everywhere is JAKPA.

I wonder how many millions people of Nigerian origin are across Europe , America, Australia, etc.

But the reality is that the current system is not going to produce the next Okocha. There is no will and spirit to do so. Local Academies are looking for quick gains which means money 🤑.

Unfortunately I did not JAKPA.

Philosopher1979:
One problem we have is that we waste our friendlies.
We should use fring players like samson tijani, taminu, ismaila sodiq, olawoyin in friendlies to find out how good or bad they are. Instead, we use our full squad for our friendlies.
This is the major problem. Have a midfield of samson tijani, nwakali and Raohael onyedika an attack of arokodare olakunle olusegub (u17 guy from russia) and yira sor in a friendly. Let them play for 90 minutes and see what happens. In that way we can discover new talents and if a player is not good enough we will know.
OK in our next friendly let us try ebenezer akinsanmiro and victor eletu to see what they can do.
If we claim our experienced players are not serious then the best way to replace them is in a friendly not when it is 10 minutes to go , ieobi and osimhrn are playing nonsense and it seems nobody can do anything from the bench.Friendlies are important I. Order to see who is good who needs time and who is outright horrible.
WE SHOULD STOP WASTING OUR FRIENDLIES!!!!.
NOW I DONT Wnt Any nwakali debate.
GOOD PLAYERS ARE DISCOVERED IN FRIENDLIES NOT IN DESPERATE CIRCUMSTANCES

First of all youth football cannot be used to anchor ⚓ anything with regards to senior team selection.

Because you were good in youth football is only indicative of potential but it's not conclusive.

Until players play first team football week in and week out giving consistent continuous top level performances in Club and league. They should not be invited to the SE.

There is a need to place emphasis on merit's not sentiment and possible favouritism.

Good players are seen playing in club and league showing high level ability and quality, not in a FRIENDLY.

SELECTION must be by merit not sentiment.

Joebie:
Osimhen was criticized for lack of goals. But no one can question his impact in other areas.

Agreed without question ⁉️

Goke7:
I agree with you totally 💯 NFF refused to build on all the successes of yesteryears and we are paying dearly for it now

💯%

TheGoodJoe:

I don't doubt the English capability, but I am not down with their overall playing style and do not see them dominating the game until they change their philosophy to meet with what the players are used to in their clubs. Especially the top players.

Dude looks at the ballers England is producing now . They have ditched kick and rush, blood and guts long ball.

Look at the English players now you talk about them all the time.

That's two decades of investment in training emphasis on technical ability, skill and Athleticism etc

Gajagojo:
My diagnosis is that we have been mentally colonized with football
What happened with Music has to happen with football
When we were kids people travelled from Lagos to Ibadan Benin following stationary stores
Now young people know about the premiership players more than their family members
It is inferiority complex
Players who are made in Nigeria have a ruggedness that Iwobi cannot have.
The defenders technically are embarrassing.
Honestly I haven't seen any player as good as Oliseh since he left
Let us NEVER forget
That 1994 team was ranked NUMBER 6 in the world
It was Westerhof that facilitated their moves to Europe after he arrived in 1989
They were all home based
Again Keshi won with home based defeating Drogba,You're and others in the best Ivory coast team
We must start from the basics
Forget about winning but build a home grown team

Oga sorry to burst the bubble 💭 look at our nation and the state we are in . Apart from music 🎵 and films nearly every area of endeavour has gone backwards.

Our universities use to have world level ratings. Most government secondary schools are in a shambles.

Without deviating into politics without a will and a comprehensive reorientation of our national psychi , bros this is how it's going to be for years to come.

elyte89:
Let’s even forget finidi …sincerely our players shld be ashamed of themselves,sense far from dem

Instead of dem to focus ,na mumu interview and skit dem Dey do ….too many distractions,

Dude we have regressed look at our midfield, outside of Iwobi zero invention, creativity. Out midfield anchored ⚓ on Onyedika and Ndidi with Iwobi the only technical gifted inventive and creative player.

What do you except the results will be.

Goke7:
It was from the okocha era we started getting addicted to this eye catching football. In fact those days it was when the eagles was leading by a comfortable margin like 3-0 they start showboating with cheers from the crowd eeeee no coach needed to teach the team possession football then, they get the job done and entertain the crowd later. But now we got to teach them how to trap ball sef, may God have mercy!

Unfortunately while we were in deep sleep corruption, mediocrity, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism, ineptitude, incompetence took over our NFA now NFF.

We must realise that while we were in a deep comotose sleep other nations , were wide awake building up their football ⚽ development. Andbsime have left us behind or are now able to compete.

Top level entertainment football is still being played at the highest levels.of football ⚽ just not by us sadly and UNFORTUNATELY.

minfelix:
current standing with ongoing play as @ 6:07pm 😅😀
Benin 7pts
Rwanda 7pts
Lesotho 5pts
SA 5pts
Nigeria 3pts
Zimbabwe 3pts

Chei I shane 🙈🙉🙈 see supposed giant of African football ⚽⚽⚽

Gajagojo:
You are majoring in minors

I am interested in the big picture. Not Finidi or Boniface but a strategic long term view
I started watching Nigerian football in 1978 . The coach is not the problem

It is the NFF and the fans

You see nothing wrong with not appointing a coach on time but are telling me about Boniface
Do you know how many coaching assistants Finidi has been given? How many scouts or support staff?
#

Who appoints a coach one year after the qualifiers have started?

Well this is what I like to hear, I am in complete agreement with your expectations. Success is built over the long term not the short term.

The English FA decided over a decade ago that the players being introduced into professional football ⚽. Through the academy systems were simply outdated, technically inept, lacking skill and creativity. Essentially kick 🦵🏿 and rush was obsolete.

As a consequence the English football academy needed to produce players who can play top level technical football and have the athletic ability to compete with players anywhere in the world 🌍

The whole youth training programme was changed and great emphasis placed on technical proficiency skill and athleticism.

Arsene Wenger once said if you don't have technical skill at 14 it's almost impossible to develop after that age.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4qFjCaheDE?feature=shared

What I am saying maybe the problem is much deeper, our football development has regressed very badly unfortunately. For how long have we been waiting for the next Jjay ,Finidi, Olise, etc