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There was never a yoruba empire, oyo was a small kingdom which got pulverised by the fulani.
Ife was a small village which the British started urbanizing from 1912.

Eyah, I can feel your pain my OSU brother. It is a sad thing when your race did not have history. You will want to drag others to it.

I feel your pain bro hahahahaha

Ok, you win, the British built houses only for yoruba, because yoruba were faithful servants to the British and the biggest uncle toms on earth. Now go and celebrate while worshipping your white masters.

Keep quiet and bring the proof. I didn't ask for rant.

DaveDGreat:
Although I don't do this tribal thing but the delusion of the average Yoruba man baffles me honestly. How can someone say a group of people did not have history? How can you make such a statement.

The problem with the average Yoruba man is that they fail to see beyond Lagos and the immediate environment. This was how a fellow Corp member posted to the East was baffled because of what he saw. He said what they believed back then was that Igbo land was inhabitable that's why they "live the SW". This " uneducated" graduate from Ondo did not know that there are more Igbos in the north than in the SW.

Now to history, I see many yorubas claiming to be "civilized". One may think that they mean/meant developing things that benefitted humans but what they meant are:
1. They fought civil wars amongst themselves hence their " forefathers were strong"
2. They had monarch hence their "forefathers were developed"
2. They surrendered to the British too early hence "their forefathers became/were civilized"

I'll address the points one by one.
As for point 1, please the Yorubas should read broad please. There were many wars that happened in and around Igbo land for centuries. There were lots of conquest that are well documented and by locals too. The fact that the whites documented your history isn't something you should really be proud of. Arochukwu, Ezza, and many other tribes in Igbo land went on conquest. My people engaged warriors from Arochukwu in wars for many years and was able to push them back. My people engaged the Etches in wars and won. But a Yoruba man is like a son who has only seen his father's farm and declares it the biggest in the works. Wow!!!

2. Different people have different ways of life. The whites who didn't understand the greater part of old Igboland described its system of government as "acephalous". The internal democracy baffled the whites and they could only compare with the ancient Greeks. Now if not having kings is a sign of not been civilized, will the Yoruba's say the ancient Greeks and/or romans where uncivilized too? Mind you, Rome didn't have kings until Caesar matched with his troops to the capital and was declared emperor.
Also, it's not all parts of Igbo land that didn't have kings. It's mostly part of central and eastern Igbo land that was without kings. I challenge a Yoruba man here to tell me which of their kingdoms is older than The kingdom of Nri or to tell me which Yoruba ancient artifact is older than those discovered in Igbo-Ukwu. Yoruba travel and see. Go to Obu Gad and let them tell you the lineage of the kings from Eze Eri I to the present one. Where I am from, we are taught to count our forefathers straight down to the founder of our town. Yet mine is a town and not a kingdom (my part didn't have kings).

3. The Yorubas are always fast to claim that they were warriors and yet in the same line of sentence claim they had were the first to be "exposed to the British way of life". How can you be warriors then then allow the British defeat you so fast? Isn't that an irony? It's well documented that The Binis (Benin), the TIVs and the Igbo's vehemently fought the British and their expansionism but how much of that can be said of the warrior tribe of Yoruba? The Anglo-Aro war is well documented. It was a bloody war that lasted over 2 years and the British was marvelled. Guess very little Yoruba's have read about this? They boast of the kiriji wars but know very little about the Headhunting warriors of Abam. Isn't that being self-centered? What are we then to say about the Aro Confederacy that's like a multi-ethnic republic? Guess no Yoruba man knows about this?
Now it's also on record that the last place to fall to British in Nigeria is the Igbo town of Igbuzo (Ibusa in present Delta state). The people there with other towns formed a coalition and launched the Agha Ekumeku which was a stiff resistance against the imperials. While the Yoruba's " warriors" had already surrendered their sovereignty to the British crown, the real warriors were still fighting their soldiers. In recognition of Igbuzo (Ndi Isu fu ogu ju nni) prowess in battle, the town's name reached Britain and many people in London heard about this town and others that gave the whites sleepless nights. The British also built a school in the town when the resistance fell because they marvelled at their strength in battle. Go figure the meaning of Ndi fu ogu ju nni. Yoruba man read this? No he won't. He's satisfied with Ekiti parapo history and he'll term it as "African history".

Lastly, it's also well documented that the Igbos had Nsibidi. The whites met it here and wrote about it. Pray tell, how can a people with a well-developed writing code be " uncivilized"? The issue with most Africans is that they view civilization with the European lens. This is one reason China Achebe wrote a rebuttal against Joseph Conrad.

Fellows, let me my pen here but with an advice. Never say a people don't have culture. Even the Barbarians had one it's just that the Romans couldn't understand it. Drop tribalism and stop seeing everything through one perspective.

To the average Yoruba man, learn to read wide. Read about other people too. To the Igbo man, learn to dey calm down. Everything no be d*ck measuring contest.

Happy new month all. Wish you all the very best of the mont of November.

After your long epistle which I didnt not stress myself over to read.

I served in rivers, elele alimini and I do go to the east regularly. Nothing I saw there.

What do I need to read about you and your tribe, do you have kingdom or empire.

I know of oyo empire

I know benin empire

I know the kingdom of the kush

I know the ancient ghana

I know ghana(wagadu) empire

I know Mali empire

I know songhai empire

I know Sokoto caliphate

I know jolof empire

I know the kingdom of Dagbon

Etc

Shaolin77:
Why are you worried on what Yoruba ppl said?

Everyone knows Yorubas are bitter, Brainless illiterate(no offense) that condemn and propagate everything that isn't on their favor

Offense ke lol.

Illiterate that produce nobel laureate that your tribe cry over daily.

Illiterate that that produced graduates that graduated with 5.0 cgpa

Illiterate that produce medical graduates that graduated with 7.0

Illiterate that produce best mathematician

Illiterate that produce first ever doctor.

I don't want to go further

I will rather come from such illiterate tribe all my life.

ThEGodFaThEr106:
Mumu, you should tell us how many of your dead relatives you've exhumed their body and harvested their organs.

Answer me and stop parambulating.

I don't need to ask how many number of human meat you going to eat today cos it is uncountable.


How many children have you people kept for pounding today?

Children pounding tribe.

The op is just wailing.

We all know the truth, he can even say ironsi was not killed in ibadan na.

The same way they keep lying that yorubas didn't return their properties after the war but the truth and the record is there.

We all know Fajuyi decided to die with his boss. No amount of denial can erase the truth.

He claimed to love themselves, but communal clash happens daily in their backyard resulting into killing burning and maiming themselves.

They love themselves but OSU and Diala can't marry or do anything whatsoever together.

Keep fooling yourself.

ThEGodFaThEr106:
Shut up! You should free yourself from brown roof, skull mining and ritual killings.

See this one.

Oya tell us, how many children are you and your family going to pound today for your usual ritual

gentiles:
You woke up in the middle of the night to open the thread. Are you seeing Yoruba's in your dream. The hate is real, Life is too short to occupy yourself with envy, jealousy and hatred. Free yourself from the excess baggage .

I wonder.

Yoruba name must be chasing him in his dream

Idiko1:
Okigwe which ignorantly omitted from your list was urban city before Ota. In 1979 when I visit Ota regularly, Ota was glorified village. During the same time frame, Okigwe was bustling city. Even the vandals, Nigerian army, that entered Okigwe in 1969 noticed a township known as Okigwe. During the same period, Abeokuta was one-street town while Ijebu Ode, Osogbo and Ogbomoso were cocoa farms.

1979 hahahahaha. Did you go there to hawk Galla as usual hahaha

Truthvalue3:
One thing is clear, yoruba seem to love and cherish colonization.
Whereas my people actually fought to maintain their sovereignty, yoruba actually loved giving theirs away without a fight.
Whereas the British looted the country of my ancestors and burnt down our capital and several of our cities, it seems they actually donated things to their fateful yoruba servants.

yoruba pride indeed. Traitors to the black race. Original uncle toms.

What does your worthless father has that can make someone betray him?

BKayy:
That makes us Gods.
Ndigbo are the symbol of God's will on earth

Hahahaha, no wonder they kick you around.

Symbol of God that is a slave to everyone.

Symbol of God that practise OSU and diala

Symbol of God that want to be israelite by fire by force but got rejected.

BKayy:
A Nationalist is the word.
I am an Igbo nationalist. I will respect and try to hide some facts about you people if you people learn to respect those that are superior to you people

I don't know why you like abusing the word superior. It seems like you just heard that word and is pushing you.

You people are the most inferior Africa race. Every Africa race has empires, kingdoms.

You apes had none, only to make noise.

Just empty container.

BKayy:
Of course. We are miles apart.
We (Ndigbo) are the superior black race that whites are scared of.

Bless your black eyes with the wealth oozing from the picture below.
That is Igbo.
Only the glass beads on that kids hands can cure some people's communal poverty in SW.
No need to talk about what the Ivory on the lady can do. You and I know how costly elephant tusks are

Yet, your OSU land is the poverty capital of the south.

I am sure that woman and that kid are OSU descendants like you

Truthvalue3:
I believe they did similar constructions in eastern Nigeria.

Where is it. Any proof

Truthvalue3:
I repeat, that Wikipedia page was written by a yoruba troll. Look for real historical documents, not pieces of garbage written by jingoistic trolls.

Were you expecting it to be written by your people who have no history?

Astrid4:
How would you know
When are your ancestors are in the bush with gorillas and ape

Hahahaha

Truthvalue3:
So you are actually so deluded that you believe this picture was taken in the 1600's ?

I don't expect you to believe, since your fathers were still living with Orangutans in the bush at that period.

ezegenigbonine:
Who go talk say him mama soup no sweet. I hate being a coward so i wouldn't have prayed to be a Yoruba

Yes they are coward

But they have won so many wars

They are coward, but your tribe dares not face them in war.

They are coward, but just 197 of their men defeated over 500 of your so called biafra men.

I prefer to be coward who have fought many war without being defeated than to be Audio brave who never fight any war not to talk of winning any.

Bantu10:
Who will jealous skull miners?? Well maybe the terrorists up north

What is this baby pounder saying?

BKayy:
You can as well just type Oyo Palace in Google and be ashamed of yourself for celebrating what the white men donated to you

Well, I did as you said and these are what I found there in pictures below.

Unfortunately for you, I did same for your obi but I couldn't see any olden day palace pictures, rather it was bringing new palace of now.

Which means, you guys have no history

BKayy:
I don't argue nonsense. Everybody wished they had contact with Ndigbo. I am surprised you didn't ask the primitive Yoruba people at that time as part of the people that raided Igboland.


That aside, Pictures speak louder than words.

Between your Alaafin (1st pic) and one man walking on his own in Ogwashi-Ukwu (2nd pic) who looks more dignified or rich?

From the first picture, you don't need me to clarify to you how the original Oyo Palace looked like before the white men built what the OP posted.

You keep justifying what we always say. See bushes, when we say you people live in the bush at that time, you will cry.

SlyDev:
How did oyinbo give them the palace, oyo lost most of her nice structures to reckless wars, oyo kí segbe babanla babayin nyamiri

You like arguing with them.

How you expect group of people that their fore fathers were still walking naked and moving with Orangutans in the bush at that time know what normal human beings get at that time.

They were all in the jungle at that time bro. Leave them.

BKayy:
Google is your friend.

We were never mates. NDIGBO didn't start getting rich after Nigeria but were created with it.

How can you be mate to set of people who are way above you in all ramifications.


Nobody is arguing that with you na.

LamidiCownu:
12 million naira
Ipod bureau of lie and statistics.
The same ibo women living on trees naked abi another one

You are not even happy he didn't say 12billion. I am shock he didn't reach billion this time cos everything to them is billion

seunmsg:
Igbo ladies were still dressing naked when the picture was taken.

Chai,this is serious o. You destroyed that shameless Bkayy kpatakpata

Deny let me see.

Enugu

Bkayy

Deny this is not enugu.

You can keep fooling yourself.

BKayy:
Ibadan is not in SE my dear

See your beloved enugu, oya come and deny

Nigercity:
Lolz...
You should have cured your ignorance by browsing those things you mentioned on goggle, b4 rushing down here to display your ignorance
Cos the last time I checked
I have been to Aba recreation club countless times, same goes to Aba sport club and golf course in old G.R.A Aba, the ABA I Know also have 2 rail station, with a rail flyover, should we even talk about one of the best stadium pitch in Nigeria (in enyimba stadium), and I also know of rhema University in Aba, together with Clifford University 5km outskirts of Aba, (when coming into Aba from Lagos)

So the question should be how many South West cities have all these?

Lolz
You shouldn't have chosen ABA to lie upon, out of every other cities, cos a little goggle search would have proven your wrong, and for the fact you don't Know all these places means you haven't been to Aba, cos the are popular within the state

Feed your eyes,I don't want to go far, but if una want it, I will start destroying you people with pictures. Not just to post GRA and call it city.

You call nsukka a city hahahaha

BKayy:
All the things they call cities in SW cannot be called town in SE and what we call villages in SE is what they glorify as mega cities in SW.

You have to understand the difference between our standards and theirs.
Sometimes I blame our people for looking down on ourselves.

Look at this Akure below, if it was in SE would anybody call it a town talkless of City?
It is a capital oh, now imagine how all those things he listed would look like

You call nsukka a city. Is this not your so called city?

Incase you want to deny, see the second picture below.

So this is what you call city, a resilient for your mind.

BKayy:
All the things they call cities in SW cannot be called town in SE and what we call villages in SE is what they glorify as mega cities in SW.

You have to understand the difference between our standards and theirs.
Sometimes I blame our people for looking down on ourselves.

Look at this Akure below, if it was in SE would anybody call it a town talkless of City?
It is a capital oh, now imagine how all those things he listed would look like

How what you posted look like Akure?

Is this not your so called enugu, your mega city. A place you called city

PrinceOfLagos:
Na packaging full Lagos

Chinedu in ABA get money pass Rashidi in Lagos

Mumu number1