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logica:
LOL. I should argue logically? I will let that slide. Yes, Busquets is a great dribbler. You obviously don't know much about football; otherwise I will say go watch videos of the person whom Busquets style mirrors - Clodoaldo. Ever heard of him? I guess not.

Clodoaldo was 5ft 8in which further confirms my opinion of players with low centre of gravity.Busquets is 6ft 2in and is not a top dribbler.Or is he a better dribbler than Modric?

dmcdad:
15 goals and not 13. You are wrongly informed. Always!

A barca fan on this thread said he had 13.I assumed he knew the stats of his players.I guess i was wrong.

logica:
Really? I guess Busquets dribbles don't count.

Argue logically please.I didn't say tall players can't dribble but they are not masters of the art like leprechaun's who have more balance.Or is Busquet's among the top 5 dribblers in europe?

logica:
Really? I guess Busquets dribbles don't count.

Argue logically please.I didn't say tall players can't dribble but they are not masters of the art.

dmcdad:
I just wanted him to mention Denilson, and to tell me if he is tall. Plus, I am very sure he didn't watch him play, as he argues like a noob. Probably made Google his friend.

LOL.I have always been a fan of skillful players.I knew when denilson was praised as the 'king of step-overs'.Try googling -king of step overs' and C.Ronaldo will appear everywhere.

dmcdad:
The thing tire me oooooo. Abi shey Harzard dey do step overs ni? But imagine how many dribbles dey to his name. Penaldo wey dey do, how many people him dey dribble?

Hazard has a low centre of gravity likewise Messi.It would easier for such players to dribble.Try checking the top 5 dribblers in europe to confirm if i am wrong about midgets being better dribblers.

ddippset:
And o yes Messi has scored from beating 3,4,5 defenders. It must not be 5. Sometimes he ends up missing, sometimes an assist, sometimes he scores. Many many times, I don't have the time to begin listing them. Phil just refreshed you on what he did to Alonso, Ramos, Marcelo, Casillas, and I think pepe in one swoop. He used a stone to kill 5 birds.

Which of these is a better description of using a stone to kill 5 birds: A player is standing 40 yrds away from goal with 4 players and the GK in front of him.He dribbles the first player, dribbles the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and finally the GK and scores. Another player is 40 yrds away from goal with 4 players and the GK to beat.He blasts the ball and watches as the ball sails past all 4 players and the Gk and enters into the net.

ddippset:
barca went trophy less because the referee disallowed Messi 's last day goal against athletico.

Cry me a river.

bykebyke:
What shall it profit a man if he does 10step overs,yet can't pass his marker?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78dYqBOo9TA

It profits him a lot if he is a master in the art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7-bCeQM1HQ

philfearon:
Remember that last season he was third in the ranking behind only Messi and Fabregas!!

No wonder barca ended up trophyless.

bykebyke:
Nolito of Celia Vigo has 11assists...going by your logic,it's safe to say he is better than Neymar?

In terms of assisting his teammates, YES.Moreover i didn't say those players are better, just pointing out how mediocre he has been in terms of settin up teammates.

ddippset:
please always read my comments carefully so you don't misquote me, or perhaps I need to make my responses shorter. I never said Ronaldo 's long ranges AZ flukes, I only said 50%

Doesn't change a thing.It also applies to Messi dribbling 3/4 players to score.

philfearon:
Why should Neymar bother much about assists when he has assist masters in Messi,Suarez,Xavi,Rakitic,Iniesta,Alves,all in his team?
That he still managed 6 assists is still good...It doesn't mean that he won't improve on it,does it?

I see you mentioned all barca attacking line-up except Neymar.Why can't Neymar be an assist master like the rest of his teammates.

philfearon:
Jeez!
is today your own stupidity day?

Prove me wrong by showing me a messi step over or rabona clip.

philfearon:
its funny that you,A real Madrid Fan opened your teeth and asked this silly question..
Do you remember 2011 UCL UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE semifinals?
Venue:Santiago Bernabeu
Teams: Real Madrid v Fc Barcelona
..Ring a bell?

Great.1 down, 4 more to go.Bottom line is not all of Messi's attempt to dribble 4\5 players were successful.Some were intercepted after beating a couple of players, some were saved by the GK.So saying CR's long rangers are flukes is saying the same for Messi's.

philfearon:
is it not funny?of course it is..

Then it is funny that despite scoring 32 goals this season, he has a laughable 6 assists.Less than James Rodriguez(who was injured for a month), Bale(who is having a poor season), not forgetting Eden hazard.

Mcleo007:
Your inability to decipher my line of argument, is sufficient reason for me not to sustain this dialogue with you.

No, you are the one that failed to understand my line of argument.

philfearon:
I know I never said Neymar is better than Ronaldo..
What I did was bring up 2015 statistics and say that Neymar and Ronaldo are on the same level..If I said otherwise, bring up the post!!

No, but you found somebody who said Neymar was better than CR funny and also found it disappointing that i said Hazard might be better than Neymar.Moreover both don't have the same number of assists and are not in the same level.

dmcdad:
Let me ask you this and know if you really do know football. Who was the master, king and Lord of step-overs? Mention the person's name, and tell me if he is tall or short.

Hint: He is a Brazilian.

Denilson? Of course there are a few exceptions.Although Denilson was not entirely a midget(5ft 10in) compared to Messi(5ft 6in)

dmcdad:
You are the most confused person on earth! Sorry to say. Are we talking about team trophies (Barca) or we still talk about Neymar?

Depends on how you measure a player's success.Moreover 13 goals with the way neymar was hyped last season was poor.Especially with nothing reasonable to show for it.

ddippset:
And as for 40 yarders. 40 yarders are a 50-50 thing. It's not entire left to the genius of the player involved. Sometimes the keeper is wrongly positioned, sometimes he is blocked by a defender, sometimes the ball is helped by the wind. A long range goal is always a fluke goal, 5 times out of 10. But for the genius who can dribble 5 to score, like Messi like Maradona, what fluke could there possibly be? It's 100% genius. Except you don't know football, a mazy run from 40 yards through 5 defenders over a 40 yard shot anytime anyday.

Tell me 5 other matches apart from the getafe one where messi beat 5+ defenders to score and i would give you 6 where Ronaldo scored from over 30yrds then we would decide which is the fluke.Saying Ronaldo's 40 yarders are flukes is like saying Messi's dribbling of 5 players to score is a fluke.The players must possess the skill or power then luck to pull such moves.I have watched messi dribble 2/3 then the ball is intercepted.

philfearon:
I used to believe you were reasonable, but with this sh*t u write up there,am disappointed in you!!..

Which of these sounds more painful to the ear, Saying Neymar is better than Ronaldo or saying Hazard might be better than Neymar.

dmcdad:
You know nothing about football! You call Neymar's first season poor? I give up!

Sorry.Wining the supercopa de espana and scoring 13 goals must have been an excellent season for a barca fan.

ddippset:
you cannot just blast the ball to the roof of the net. What you have standing in front of you is all called a goalkeeper not a ghost. Try blasting and it's either you send the ball to space or that goalie saves it. A panenka ensures that the keeper does not dive either direction to save your pk. Ronaldo can do a panenka but he avoids it Because he's too scared of missing a goal. Messi can also score from 40 yards as he has with several free kicks but it's easier for him to wriggle his way through bodies of defenders. This is genius.

With accuracy a player can blast the ball to the roof of the net and score(Maybe that's why CR has a better PK ratio than Messi).I would like to see the messi free kick from 40 yards (not 39.9 oo).So you are saying wriggling past defenders to score a goal is genius while Blasting the ball from 40 yards out and watch as it sails to the roof of the net isn't.

Mcleo007:
You're a funny lad, sha.. Nani has scored a 40yarder; do you call him a great player? R. Quaresma crosses from the side touchline with the inside of his foot; do you call him a great player? R. Shawcross of Stoke city is a pain in the a55 of most EPL strikers; do you call him a great defender?

Don't deviate from the topic please.No one is talking about great players.We are talking about what one player can do that the other can't.Messi does not possess the shot power that Nani has to score a 40 yard, likewise Nani the technique to score a finesse.Messi does not possess the skill to attempt a touchline rabona, likewise Quaresma the balance to dribble 5 players and score.

ddippset:
Why does Messi need a 40 yarder when he can just dribble past them 5 defenders to score? Step over? Even my kid brother does step overs. Ronaldo is the only player who does step overs even when there's no one marking him. Lol. A bicycle kick, and a back heel? any player can do these once the ball falls in place. Having said already these, these things are trivial. I am not supposed to even be on this. Both Messi and Ronaldo are good enough to score panenkas, rabonas and all that. Case closed.

With your logic, why attempt a panenka when you can just blast the ball to the roof of the net.Aguero on attempting a step-over: "I always wanted to try and copy the step-over.But one day i tried to do it in training and i just fell over so i stopped trying to do it".I repeat, players with low centre of gravity will find it difficult performing skills like a step-over or bicycle kick.Just like tall players like Crouch will find it difficult dribbling.

ddippset:
hahaha haha. ATTEMPTED? did you say ATTEMPTED? even Yakubu aigbeni can attempt. Even in the glo premier League, these things are attempted. But what's the result from the rabona? Did he score? Why does Messi need a 40 yarder when he can just dribble past them 5 defenders to score? Step over? Even my kid brother does step overs. Ronaldo is the only player who does step overs even when there's no one marking him. Lol. A bicycle kick, and a back heel? any player can do these once the ball falls in place. Having said already these, these things are trivial. I am not supposed to even be on this. Both Messi and Ronaldo are good enough to score panenkas, rabonas and all that. Case closed.

It requires an incredible amount of skill and power for some of these moves to be executed.A player with a low centre of gravity will find it extremely difficult to attempt a step over quickly or a bicycle kick.It would take a lot of power for a player to score a back heel of 12 yards

homesteady:
Lmaoooooooooooo! I know you were just trolling, but I wasn't!

admit it, for the price he was bought, he is very useless under the present circumstances!

Did you think Neymar was Useless after his poor first season for barca?

ddippset:
list them, I dare you. Infact I double dare you!

Has messi attempted a rabona, a 40 yarder, a bicycle kick, a backheel goal 12 yard out, or even a common step-over?

homesteady:
Lmaoooooooooooo! Pedro had more trophies than Real madrid the year after Ronaldo came to la liga! and I'm sure he still has more trophies!

I didn't call Pedro a clown, did i?

homesteady:
ahhh!!! Messi has only scored 5 PK goals this season now! where did your 8 PK'S in just 2015 appear from?

Nobody said only Messi has done it, we only said Ronaldo can never do it!

it happened last in May 2013, thats close to 2 years now! don't you think it's a special goal?

Just 5 PK's this season? SMH, and you call yourself a barca fan.Do you want me to list things that CR7 has done that Messi won't do.

homesteady:
Bale should just retire from football and become a full time clown!

Suarez - 13 goals, 12 assists
Bale - 13 goals, 7 assists!
Let me spare him some embarrassment by not mentioning the no of games/minutes both have played!

Most expensive shiit in the world!

The "clown" has more trophies than Barcelona since he arrived in Spain.