Thereddevil:

LOL, it'll just be a waste of time if we continue this way, cos you fail to understand me.. We can easily idolise who we wish to idolise, who you idolise doesn't assure your success, though it influences it.. How many players idolised Pele and became world best? How many idolised Maradona? Even Messi never idolised any of those.. Even though he played like Maradona at a very tender age, he idolised Aimar who wasn't as good as Maradona.. Messi idolised Aimar, but the coaches who saw him play said "that kid plays like Maradona"... The fact that you're being idolised doesn't make you the best, but the fact that every football school sits their players down and teach them how to play like Messi and teach defenders how to defend a player who plays like Messi means a lot

Everything about Mbappe screams a young Cristiano; Pacy wing forward with quick feet and an eye for goal, whilst everything Haaland screams Ronaldo in his late 20's and early 30's; powerful, ruthless, and clinical finisher who can score all types of goals in the penalty area. Whatever you choose to call it, Haaland and Mbappe idolize/model/play-like Ronaldo.

Thereddevil:

Still taking me back to my point.. These players make Ronaldo their role model cos they have an eye for the goals.. Schools offer "how to play like Messi", managers of a team look into their teams and whenever they see an outstanding player, they easily say "wow, he plays like Messi"

And where did that get them. Fact remains the two best young players in world football model after Ronaldo. Speaks volume about Ronaldo's influence amongst the younger generation.

ddippset:
Mbappe and Haaland are like Ronaldo.

Salah and Neymar are like Messi

Mbappe and Haaland are 2 players who are goal poachers. They have speed and are useless in close quarters without space.

They can't model after Messi. Their game is way way way far from Messi's.

They can only "model after Ronaldo"

Are Salah and Neymar young players?
We are discussing young players. Barca fans and shifting posts.
Haaland and Mbappe specifically stated that Ronaldo was their idol and they model after him.

5 goals and 1 assist in 4 games(plus countless records shattered) is impressive from Ronaldo considering the group they were in. Plus he now has goals against Germany and France to boost his ever growing CV(if barka fans like let them cry from now to thy kingdom come that they were penalties, nobody cares). 2 international titles for Portugal is more than impressive!

As for the Argentine international flop who is still chasing his first title at 34 when he should have won at least 2(considering Argentina's pedigree and the ridiculous amount of Copa America held in the last decade), we will be waiting to drag him like tiger gen should he fail to strike gold once again.

Messi fans can gloat all they want, truth is Ronaldo has performed beyond expectations in this EURO. Nobody expected Portugal to go far considering their group plus no one expected them to defend the title. 5 goals and 1 assist later in 4 games(not forgetting the countless records broken), I can say he has done well. Plus he now has goals against France and Germany to boost his ever increasing CV(if you like cry from now to thy kingdom come that they were penalties and tap ins, nobody cares). 2 international titles with Portugal is more than impressive!

As for the Argentine international flop who at this age should be having at least 2 copa america titles gunning for a third (considering the ridiculous amount of times the tournament has been held in the last decade), we will be waiting to drag him like tiger gen should he fail to do the needful.

Thereddevil:

I don't know how many young/little Ronaldo's I've heard about, but I've heard many of little Messi.. Players who are nothing more than goal scorers or those with pace model after Ronaldo, but players with football intelligence and players who are seen as best in their various teams model after Messi.. Footballers of our generation spend time on the social media, they watch Ronaldo's routines(cos he posts them a lot), how he trains, how he stays fit.. But it takes real genius to be a "Messi" and I don't think such can be uploaded online

Look at this clown. The current two best young players (Mbappe and Haaland) in the world model after Ronaldo.

FirstbornWds:




Ali Daei is the current record holder of most intl that Cr7 is tryna break. You know am?


That's to tell you how any idiot can achieve that record.


You know who get the previous most calendar goals? Gerd Muller. And Messi robbed it all off to the extent say Munchen even create shrine for am for Alianz Arena.

Ali Daei plays mostly against Asian teams. Name any European player apart from the Greatest ever who has scored 100 goals. If not, keep mute and know your place Messi fanboy.

You are an amateur footballer working his way to the upper football echelons. Hypothetically, you were asked by a football God to choose one of these careers:

At a young age you have shown precocious talent only comparable to the greatest to ever do it; this talent should definitely make you the best to ever do it before you clock 30 if you have the right mentality. Year in, year out you dominate the same league winning the same trophies, breaking records, winning the top scorer and the best player of the league. Same ol', same ol'...You have don't it all here, but let me stay here and continue winning. In your NT, you get close to winning something every time but just lack that "something" to do it for your country like previous legends have.

OR
Started as a skinny teenager with fancy footwork and skills, pretty decent player, should be able to carve out a decent career, probably win some trophies. Suddenly you metarmorphose into some kind of beast, dominating the league, winning it all collectively and individually. You don't end there. You move to another tough league where you become a goal machine; winning everything again(top scorer, best player), becoming the greatest in club football's elite competition.

That should be all? Not really. You move on to another league where you should be past your peak and seeing off what's left of your career.
Relentless, you win it all again. At this point you have seen and done it in Europe's top
3 leagues. What a career! But that's not all.
In your NT, you captain your country to their first two titles doing what your predecessors have tried but failed to do.


WHAT CAREER WOULD YOU CHOOSE?

This should decide who is the greatest ever.

LordAdamX:


Germany get Portugal pin code. So the result no bother me.

Deschamps tho' has thoroughly outclassed Santos in the past; so I have no idea what version of Portugal Santos will deploy. A draw is enough to qualify as best third. So he might decide to play it safe and look for a lead to protect.

Needless to say, the critics are festering in Portugal. Not many are fans of Portugal playing timid. Personally, I don't know. If a style gets you two trophies, I'd be careful about changing it. But it seems he may have to commit one way or the other; this we can play well but choose not to will not do him favors especially with fans who have the memory of a goldfish.

-Lord

Unlike previous tournaments where they lacked quality, playing timid would have been understandable. But you don't have the likes of Ronaldo, Fernandes, Jota, Bernardo etc and play defensive. This current Portugal team has so much quality but with the same small mentality. If they continue this way, they won't go far. Santos should use either of Carvalho or Danilo(not both), and Renato should start.

1 goal, 1 assist against Germany.
"but but but, he only scores against Lithuania". Bunch of clowns!
I just hope he scores more and probably win the golden boot and its a win for me; winning back 2 back Euros would be a huge mountain to climb even for the greatest ever.
As for Argentine shatta bandle, we will be waiting when he gets bundled out of the Copa America. Another NT retirement beckons.

Interesting.

Sign Mbappe!!

devvy44:


Casemiro will continue winning it, Btw is there another copa America tournament next year?

Conmebol really turned a four year tournament to an annual tournament because of pessi

I just surmised; since I have witnessed countless Copa America tournaments in my lifetime that it will still be held next year.

devvy44:


Messi can’t/won’t win this copa America, dead that thought man

Even if he doesn't win it this year, he might win next year's edition. Never underestimate Barcelona's messiah.

devvy44:
This picture reminds me of pessi’s fans, most especially that guy on the far right

LOL. The idiot was taking pics with one hand and giving him the finger with the other.

Lordbinsmar:


Can a holding midfielder only play as a single pivot? What about Alonso and Macherano for Liverpool, Busquet and Alonso for Spanish national team.

You are talking about formation and not the role of players.

You can play a holding midfielder in a single or double pivot depending on the chosen formation.

Give it a rest. Kante was, and is still a box-to-box midfielder. He is heavily involved in Chelsea's attacking and defensive play. In the semi final against Madrid, he was the creative force in both goals and he made a lot of counterattacking runs. Even in the final, he made an attacking run where he outjumped Dias and Sterling but his header went wide.
Kante is not like Makalele, he is something more. Even Joe Cole described him as Makalele plus extra because he breaks play and also supports the attack; switching between both roles tirelessly. That's why it is often joked that he covers everywhere!

Guardiola fanatics in the mud.

Neimar:

Shiii

Neimar:

Bottlers E dn finish Juve go qualify

Eyah sorry o.

Oh Lord, What do we have to do to convince Perez to sign Mbappe?

TheHulk616:
Yes!!!!!!. Juventus are in the UCL!!! Thank you Jesus.

Lol. The fear of playing in the Europa league...

Hazard is past it; he will never be the same hazard of old with all the injuries he has accrued. If we are lucky, we can get a club who will sign him for upwards of £50m. We need a cold blooded finisher in Mbappe and we will be clear of Barca and Atletico.

Congrats to Atletico. At least the title will remain in Madrid.

Barca fans should stop pretending as if they are happy for Suarez. Deep down I know they are sad for selling him.

Kilishihunter:

So why isn't he the favorite for the ballon d or then since only 1 match decides it? The same mbappe that was caged in the second leg except from the penalty he took and was also invisible throughout against man City courtesy of Ruben dias Unless he puts up a stellar showing with France winning the euros then he should just forget it Lewa and de bruyne are the favourites especially if the latter wins the UCL and I also hope you know if Messi wins the Copa America It automatically catapults him ahead of a non euro winning mbappe into the top 2. Same as Ronaldo

All these Barca fans get deciphering problem I swear. Read the whole conversation I had with him. I said we still have a long way to go and the outcome would be decided by who wins the UCL and Euros but that currently Mbappe is ahead of Messi by virtue of what has happened so far this season. Don't take me to the same inane back and forth I was having yesterday.

The Copa America isn't as glamourous or followed like the Euros so I doubt it will make much difference. I also surmise whichever big team wins the Euros, it still won't help Messi's case as each big team has a contender.

Krasid:
Yes, Lewandowski is a strong favourite to win the award if he keeps his form till the end of year (not forgetting he equalled a record that stood for decades in his league). Plus the judges might just have a favouritism bias towards him seeing that they clearly denied him a Ballon d'or last year. Of course De bruyne is also a strong contender. Should City win the UCL, then he would be favourite seeing they would have completed a treble and he is clearly their best player. Mahrez is not a contender, he's not as consistent as the rest. The outcome of the UCL final and the Euros will definitely have a say and it's not looking good for Messi.

Luigi02:


OMG you've lost it
Here's bleachers report explaining it even better since you're myopic or lost your ability to read and comprehend the previous screenshots.

Lmfao he thinks he's bullying me
Dude, wake up to reality and stop day dreaming. You're trying so hard but it just ain't working. Riding mbappe's dick like you're paid to so. Even when I provide you with clear facts, you still choose to be břąîñless, smh

Lol I said the ballon d'or is awarded by France football, but since you keep going back and forth; Let's assume players and coaches are involved. Why would any sensible player or coach vote Messi ahead of Mbappe who was molesting the Barca backline whilst Messi was streaming in HD.

Luigi02:

You're getting boring now, son.

https://tribuna.com/en/news/manutd-2021-05-03-ballon-dor-power-rankings-messi-leapfrogs-mbappe-no-man-united-player-in-top-10/

This clown went to bring an article made 17 days ago when Messi was still in contention for la Liga which if he had won would have boosted his chances. But since then Messi and Barca are now out of the league race after suffering humiliating defeats at the nou camp to Celta and Granada, and Mbappe yesterday added the Coupe De France which he scored and assisted. Shouldn't common sense tell you that Messi would drop in the race and Mbappe would go higher
Hence why I brought a recent article of about 3 days old. We clearly aren't operating at the same wavelength.

Luigi02:

You arrogant midget
You've resumed typing shit instead of accepting correction when I corrected you
You're obviously under the influence of kpoli right now, hence it explains it all.
You had to go dig up blogs, didn't you?
When u realize I can also create my own website and put up a random list, ranking the potential balon dor winner. I can literally put Kante in no 1 and since it's my blog, you can't do nothing other than to accept. That shouldn't count!
In the meantime, according to skysports, it still counts. It's down to pundits, coaches, club captains, etc to vote. It never ended in 2016, what happened then was just a break off fifa.

Ah sorry sir but I think you are dyslexic and need help. Your picture states that the ballon d'or will be solely decided by journalist(France Football)
while FIFA the best will be decided by coaches, players e.t.c And we clearly have been talking about the ballon d''or. Too many Chelsea dry gin coupled with hot sun and Nigeria's economic situation has messed up your thinking.

I didn't dig up shit. I just googled "ballon d'or 2021" ranking and posted the first result I checked. I didn't even bother checking the rest because I know real football analyst think alike and all results would be similar.

Goal.com is a international footballing site with professional journalist not a blog!
Okay let me make this easy for you because it looks like I am bullying you and I am starting to feel sorry for you, name any site or even blog that currently has Messi ahead of Mbappe in its 2021 ballon d'or ranking (You can even create one yourself ) I will wait.

Luigi02:

Lmfao what f**king a clown this
Get your grown arse up and make your research before you type shit on here boy. Oh you're typing shit already sef
It's down to football coaches, and club captains, to vote for who they think outperformed other players, pls get that into your thick skull . They take more than 50%, leaving the rest for the nominated players and others present. Ribery after losing the balon d'or in 2013 was saying something about people didn't wanna vote for him and all that, reason he lost. Your lover boy mbappe should move outta that shit hole league, ligue 1, right maybe then he would stand a chance

Olodo! that's the FIFA best award not ballon d'or. Yes the 2013 version was decided using that format because FIFA merged with ballon d'or from 2010-2015 to form FIFA ballon d'or. But they reverted to the old format in 2016, so currently the ballon d'or is awarded by France football. Get a pen and paper when chatting with me boy cos you sure will learn a lot.

Here is goal's ballon d'or power ranking released 3 days ago and the top 5 is quite similar to mine (They even put Mbappe 1st )
And Yes they agreed that the ballon d'or in 2021 will be won and lost at the Euros,
But Bariga's finest Shekpe fan Luigi02 knows better and thinks the "Euro is shit and won't add anything"
https://www.goal.com/en-ng/lists/ballon-dor-2021-power-rankings/1l03egk461k3a1em4lb6gh8mhu

Luigi02:

You said mbappe deserves to be above Messi bcus he beat Messi in his own backyard, but there you go putting mbappe above someone who bitch slapped him and his team, rendering him so useless that he couldn't have a single shot at goal. Talking about KDB. Letting hate and sentiments becloud your sense of reasoning, I see. Highest mbappe is getting to is top 5. Ridiculous how you think people are gonna even vote for him. I mean there aren't many peeps who watch him and his farmers league

Now I know am talking to a noob, a total novice! A beer parlour shekpite who knows nothing about how things work. The ballon d'or is awarded by French news magazine, France football and you say they don't watch him. Wehdone sir . De bruyne is not favourite because he was injured for a decent part of the season and Man city were winning without him. Hence why many pundits are clamouring for Dias or Gundogan as PFA award winner for this season. He would need to give a hell of a performance in the UCL final to be strong favourite.

Luigi02:


Messi and barca flogged real Madrid at their backyard, but somehow cr7 went ahead to win the Balon d'or ahead of Messi and Neymar. Perhaps that should overule the best student of class nonsense you were bringing in here.
No, you clearly told me that mbappe would win it ahead of Messi, since he has more goals than him. I replied by saying Lewandowski should be winning it if that's the case, since he has more goals than both. And now you're telling me that the goal difference isn't much and they both will be on a tie breaker lmfao. As it stands lewan is winning it, case closed. Reply after mbappe wins the euro. Not this future impossible tense you're going about

Did you miss the part where I said Lewa, Mbappe, De bruyne, Messi, and Ronaldo are favourites in that order. Shey you no understand English ni, talk language wey u understand make I explain am for u. Or maybe you are just dyslexic.
Or has your brain been delibrately skipping the part where I said we still have a long way to go before the ballon d'or can be decided since it's a yearly award not seasonal award. We have barely gotten to half of the year, yet one shekpe fan from Bariga has already crowned his winner.