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[quote author=Humphrey77][/quote]guy am stil an amatur ooo, (not yet a topologist).. Let a<m<A and b<n<B denot d two open sets... suppos, on d contrary, dat their intersection, p, is a closed set... Then we can find x and y such dat x<=p<=y, where a, b<x and y<A, B now suppose, without loss of generality, dat A<B....then we can always find d numbers z such dat y<z<A, since z<A<B, z should b in their intersection, but y<z a contradiction, showing dat z is not in their intersection...hence our supposition dat p is a closed set is untenable....and d result follows |
Humphrey77: @ lapacian show iti will not show it because my method of solution is always "INCORRECT"...use modular arithmetic |
Humphrey77: if 3 raise to power 1998 is divided by 5 what is the remainder4 |
Mr Calculus: plz guys help me out wit dis......3*2sin@cos@=5*2sin¥cos¥ and sin@/cos@=2sin¥/cos¥.... Multiply÷ both eqns respectively; 3sin^2@=10sin^2¥ and 3cos^2@=2.5cos^2¥ add both equatns; 3=10sin^2¥+2.5cos^2¥ or 3=7.5sin^2¥+2.5 or 0.5=7.5sin^2¥ or 1=15sin^2¥ or sin¥=sqr(1/15) from there u can find ¥ and @ |
benbuks: ......M.O.G...try again o..incorrect.....9ce attempt sha..is it dat i didnt use d method u have in mind or d solution is completely wrong...if it is wrong, can u b kind enough 2 point out my error?... |
benbuks: Compute the derivative of..*) let y=sqrt [1+sqrt(1+ sqrt(x)) ] now let u=1+ sqrt(x), then du/dx=1/[2sqt(x)] let v=1+ sqrt(u) then dv/du=1/[2sqt(u)] now y=sqr(v) then dy/dv=1/[2sqt(v)] from chain rule, dy/dx=dy/dv*dv/du*du/dx substitute and d result follows **) let y=sqrt[ (x^2+1)^2+sqrt(1+(x^2+1)^2)] then y^2=(x^2 +1)^2+sqrt(1+(x^2+1)^2) or differentiatin implicitly; 2yy'=(x^2 +1)*2x+ (x^2 +1)*x/sqrt(1+(x^2+1)^2) |
Where 's my boss Alpha Maximus a.k.a the Rational Mathematician? |
benbuks: Chairman,@laplacian..more hailins 2 u bro...we re 2geda |
benbuks: 1/9=0.111111111. . .xy/9=x.(x+y)(x+y)(x+y)(x+y).... e.g 24/9=2.666666666.... also 35/9=3.888888888 |
smurfy: Solve for all odd numbers? Okay.tanks man...amazin |
[quote author=smurfy][/quote]pls i'll need u 2 solve it 4 d case in where we are required 2 find all odd numbers greater than 4000 using 0,1,2,3,4,5 |
Dane17: . I'm not saying I'm right either I just stated an observation. for 0,1,2,3 u get 10 even (102,120,130,132,210,230,302,310,312,320) and 8 odd (103,123,201,203,213,231,301,321). ur oda formula should be correct as 4P3-3P2=18thank u very much bro.... Why are d even numbers more dan d odd numbers?....**:ojust thinking:/** |
Dane17: . d 6 and 5 digit will not have d same numba of odd and even numba. let's use ur method for 0,1,2. from ur form numba of 3 digit will be 3P3-2P2=4 and numba of even numba would be 4/2=2. But dere are 3 even(210,102,120) and one odd (201 numba.i do not claim dat my solution is right but u hav decisively justified my approach...using my approach u correctly predicted d four numbers, but d odd and even numbers are not equal because my FIRST OBSERVATION is not satisfied; 0,2(even) and 1(odd)... Try it d numbers 0,1,2,3 and c |
@smurfy 2 ansa ur ques i'll first mak a few observations 1.) d numbers 0,1,2,3,4,5 wen used 2 form numbers greater dan 4000 will contain equal number of even numbers as odd numbers because the last digits can each be in 3 ways; 0,2,4(even) and 1,3,5(odd) 2.)if u are to arrange a set of n numbers and u do not desire 0 to start d digit, then first arrange d numbers i.e nPr Then keep zero constant as d first number and arrang d rest i.e (n-1)P(r-1) If now u take their differenc i.e nPr-(n-1)P(r-1) Then the result is d number of ways of arrangin d numbers without zero appearin as first digit Now Ur Solution ARRANGE IN SIX DIGITS number of ways of arrangin 0,1,2,3,4,5 in six digit witout zero appearin first is =6P6-5P5=600ways ARRANGE IN FIVE DIGITS 6P5-5P4=600ways ARRANGE IN FOUR DIGITS in dis case 0,1,2,3 MUST not occur as first digit, so number of ways of arrangement =6P4-4*(5P3)=360-4*60 =120ways in summary, number of ways of formin digit wit 0,1,2,3,4,5 so dat d number formed is greater than 4000=600+600+120=1,320ways finally if d numbers formed must be EVEN, then number of ways =1320/2=660ways |
Dane17: . x+y=xy ; x=xy-y ; x=y(x-1) ; y=x/x-1 ; therefore if x=2 ; y= 2/1 ; if x=3 ;y=3/2 if x=4 ; y=4/3 and so on.u got the answer and d steps but 3 and 1.5 are not solutions because 1.5 is not an INTEGER.. ...y=x/(x-1), notice dat x and x-1 are consecutive integers, but two consecutive intgers can only b divisibl iff d denominator is 1, or x-1=1 so x=2, and that is d ONLY INTEGER solution |
factorial1: *clears throat*nice work but ur solution has flaw, d point where u added (ii) and (iii) u said, xy - x + xy - X = xy, its suppose to be xy - x + xy - Y = xy....u replaced y by x, and affectd d rest of d wrk... |
factorial1: The numbers are 2 and 2.dats d correct answer but i want 2 c ur proof... |
Laplacian: ...d sum of two non-zero integers is equal to their product...find d numbers.... |
...d sum of two non-zero integers is equal to their product...find d numbers.... |
smurfy: Here goes...pls recheck ur solution |
ameer!:consider d LHS & multiply numerato&denominator by sinx to get y=(1-sinx)/(1+sinx) or rationalise to get y=(1-sinx)^2/cos^2(x) or y=(secx-tanx)^2............(eqn1) let p=tan(x/2), then tanx=2p/(1-p^2) and secx=sqr(1+tan^2x) =sqr[1+4p^2/(1-p^2)^2] =sqr[(p^4-2p^2+1+4p^2)/(1-p^2)^2] =sqr[(p^4+2p^2+1)/(1-p^2)^2] =sqr[ (1+p^2)^2/(1-p^2)^2] =(1+p^2)/(1-p^2) substitut into (eqn1) above, y=[{(1+p^2)-2p}/(1-p^2)]^2 or y=[(1-p)^2/(1-p^2)]^2 or by differenc or two squares applied to d denominator an d cancellin gives; y=[(1-p)/(1+p)]^2 where p=tan(x/2)....proved |
akpos4uall: Well, I don't know what you mean by "its because of its negative sign" but let me explainbros i must confess, ur result on d generalisation u made @ d bottom of ur write up above is d MOST BEAUTIFUL result i 've seen on dis thread...and d result is true....i'll be very grateful if u can supply a proof... |
echibuzor: I aint gonna lie, you lost me from the first line...hahahahaaa....wait 4 Rhydex 2 post his solution, mayb u'll understand him better.... |
benbuks: Find the anti-derivative of (cosx +1)^-2observe that; cosx+1=2cos^2(x/2) so (cosx+1)^-1=1/2*sec^2(x/2) y=(cosx+1)^-2=1/4*sec^4(x/2) integration by part gives; y=1/4*[2sec^2(x/2)tan(x/2)- §2sec^2(x/2)tan^2(x/2)dx] or y=1/4*[2sec^2(x/2)tan(x/2)- §2sec^2(x/2){sec^2(x/2)-1}dx] or y=1/4*[2sec^2(x/2)tan(x/2)- 8y+4tan(x/2)] or by collecting 'y' together, 3y=1/4*[2sec^2(x/2)tan(x/2)+4tan(x/2)] the required integration is therefore y=1/12*[2sec^2(x/2)+4]*tan(x/2) or y=[6tan(x/2)+2tan^3(x/2)]/12+C a simple manipulation shows dat d above result is equivalent to Rhydex's solution...i leave it as an exercise for anyone to show us how... |
smurfy: Thanks Laplacian. Thanks for this method.dC/C=1/2*dr/r=1/2*p% |
ameer!:...i suggest u use brackets apprioprately to for ambiguity (for those who 'll solv d question)... |
smurfy: An error of P% is made in measuring the radius of a circle. Calculate the approximate percentage error in the measurement of the circumference.let C denote d circumference and let # denot pi then, C=2#r, now differentiat C wit respet to r to get dC/dr=2# or the error in the circumference; dC=2#*dr, now divide thru by C=2#r to get dC/C=2#*dr/(2#r) or dC/C=dr/r=p% showin dat d percentag error in measurin d circumference must be d same as dat made in measurin d radius |
Mbahchiboy: THANKU VERY MUCH SIR 4 D HIGHLIGHT.....BUT PLZ COMPLETE D NO 2 I DON PAUSE2^(2x-1)=x^(x+1).....(eqn1) let y=x^(x+1).........(eqn2) substitut (2) in (1) to get 2^(2x-1)=y........(eqn3) from (3), 2^(2x-1)/4^(2x-1)=y/4^(2x-1) or (0.5)^(2x-1)=y*(0.25)^(2x-1) or (1-0.5)^(2x-1)=y*(1-0.75)^(2x-1) or 1-0.5(2x-1)=y[1-0.75(2x-1)] .......(eqn4) from (2), y=x^(x+1) or y*[1/(4x)]^(x+1)=(x/4x)^(x+1) or y*[1+1/(4x)-1]^(x+1)=(0.25)^(x+1) or y[1+(x+1){1/(4x)-1}+...]= (1-0.75)^(x+1) or y[1+(x+1)(1-4x)/4x]=1+0.75(x+1)....(eqn5) eliminat y from eqn4 and eqn5 and solve d cubic to obtain x...both equtaion can b easier solved using logarithmic approximation...but obviously dis thread is not a convenient place to use logarithmic operations... |
Mbahchiboy: plz u guys should help solve dis using "d citizen" approach.i tried doing it but i dont know my mistake.2^2x=8x, or 2^(2x-3)=x or 2^(2x-3)/4^(2x-3)=x/4^(2x-3) (1/2)^(2x-3)=x*(1/4)^(2x-3) (0.5)^(2x-3)=x*(0.25)^(2x-3) (1-0.5)^(2x-3)=x*(1-0.75)^(2x-3) by binomial approx. 1-(2x-3)*0.5...= x*[1-(2x-3)*0.75+...] re-arrangin gives 1-x+3/2=x-3x/4*(2x-3) or 4-4x+6=4x-6x^2+9x or 6x^2-17x+6=0 for d second question; (4/x)^x=2x or 4^x=2x^(x+1) or 2^(2x-1)=x^(x+1)...i hope u can go on from there? |
Alpha Maximus: Hmmm, nice approach bruv but here's a shorter approach:nice approach |
Laplacian: ...a two digit number is divisble by 4 prove that d unit digit MUST be even... |
Laplacian: ...a two digit number is divisible by 4, if d unit digit is also divisible by 4, show that d tens digit MUST be even... |

