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hahn:
@bolded, is that a bad thing? Do you mean to say that it is much better to be restricted from using your own brain and be led by a book written 2000 years ago by people who were illiterates and who did not make any meaningful contribution the world?

The picture it paints is that of a man who says "God exists. How do I know? Faith". And after some time, he says "God doesnt exist. How do I know? Faith!"

The primary reason for not believing in god is the nonexistence of evidence that such an entity exists

In what world does the absence of evidence to prove a thing constitute evidence to prove its absence?

The absence of evidence is the evidence of the absence of evidence. We need evidence. Simple



And religious people do this, how? By spreading fabricated stories?



How many atheists do you know personally that led you to this conclusion?



At least before you comment on a subject, have knowledge of it

atheism
ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m/Submit
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

That is the ONLY definition.

If atheism is not free thinking, then what about theism?

Another brilliant mind. But I was not positing the conventional definition of atheism. I was showing the thought process that leads me to the conclusion that one cannot be free-in-thought, and at the same time, hinged on a conclusion for which the only evidence, is poverty of evidence.

By the by, am glad to see so many bright minds, spitting logic like it should be spat in response to the fluctuations of my own mind.

DeSepiero:
Nice perception and correct in some cases. But the new found freedom you talk about is as a result of personal research which the atheist has conducted. He weighed his findings against the ascertions of religion and found it to be of more credence. Any so called atheist who claims to be one without first seeking truth is just following blindly.

It rather paints a picture of a man who grew up to find himself in a society where everyone believes in one God or the other and is compelled to believe in one but later questions his believe on close examination and dismisses it due to insufficient proof.

Absence of evidence to prove existence of a thing doesn't constitute evidence to its non existence. It only stimulates unbelief in the existence of that thing. It depends on the individual. Belief in a thing doesn't make it exist; unbelief in a thing doesn't cause it to cease to exist either. Belief doesnt equal truth. Its your choice to belief or not belief with your reasons.

Admitting that our knowledge is limited is absolutely honest. While we may not know the ultimate truth about some issues, the question comes up. "Why do you believe in what you believe as true?" "Where's proof of what you believe in?". Admitting that you may be right or wrong is being open minded in a way. But people let their ego cloud their judgement (theist and atheist inclusive) especially on this forum

A person can be an atheist and a freethinker. The freethinker has formed his opinion using enquiry, science and reason. If that leads him to a belief that God does not exist, then that's the case. However, it is largely dependent on the individual.
How is it negative faith. Define the terms here. 'Freethinker' 'Atheist' and 'negative faith' let's see how they correlate and differ.

Indeed your mind is very logical. I (in my characteristic open-mindedness) chewed on every point, and am convinced that here 'Here is a thorough mind'. However, while I didnt find a section of your response that addresses this point squarely, I hope we can both agree that in the absence of evidence, research is just inconclusive. Anything other than that, is deviating from free thought, to cling to an idealogy.

onetrack:
You perceive it wrongly. I am open to the existence of other beings, but the proof of such doesn't really exist. There is no way to test a hypothesis about the existence of gods. The majority of atheists hold a position similar to my own. We are waiting for evidence that we can test ourselves. I have no faith in anything. In any case all religions are completely man-made--that I am sure of--and are not evidence of anything divine.

Does it then mean that because you have not discovered a way to verify a thing, that thing does not exist? I am an agnostic. I am not convinced of the existence of these Gods either... But I realize that the situation is that I am not convinced... Not that they don't exist.

Several phenomenon exist which even though will eventually get discovered, cannot be discovered now due to our limited observatory capacity.

I think sincere atheists should shift from negative faith, to keeping an open mind to receive and ruminate on facts. There's a whole lot out there to learn! That's the beauty of fee thinking!

Atheism, as I perceive it, is the first bustop for youngsters in philosophy, whom basking in their new found freedom from restricted thought, fall prey to the logical abomination of reaching conclusions before conducting research.

The picture it paints is that of a man who says "God exists. How do I know? Faith". And after some time, he says "God doesnt exist. How do I know? Faith!"

In what world does the absence of evidence to prove a thing constitute evidence to prove its absence?

Why can't we be honest with ourselves and admit that our knowledge ends where it does and to know more, we have to resort to that old, slow, but reliable means of human advancement called research? And maintain a widely open mind while at it?

I dont see how a person can be an atheist and a free thinker...The thought process of an atheist is already bent on proving the non-existence of a thing, as opposed to drifting in consonance with the random waves of facts, evidence, and logic, towards an unknown destination.

Atheism is not free thinking. Its just negative faith.

DanielTheGeek:
Lol, Larry... The write-up is a Medium extract, I was thinking about Node and PHP, the MEAN stack and doing everything with one language.. Node is great, I see it rooting itself firmly amongst developers in the future... For now, we can all agree that even though Node is a better choice, PHP is still widely used.

My age, :-)... Well I'm old enough to be your Uncle, lol, that's all I can say.

Got it, Dan. Reading up on the whole mean stack thingy right away.

mmm....has anyone here read the recently enacted cyber law act 2015? This shit can earn you 10million naira fine or years imprisonment if you are found guilty. Am saying this because this falls under the category of hacking a 'National Infrastructure' which the act addresses.

Hacking a private organization can be overlooked...but since 2015, anything that has to do with the government is red zone!!!

Dan! Ten Years? Wow! How old are you? (Okay... I will pm you. so you tell me in private). Thats a lot of experience right there!!!

Wonderful write up!!!

In my own sentiments about languages (off the back of my hand): php is like a donkey (gets you where you need to be; but nothing really sexy), java is like a lion (forceful, can be slow, always strong, damn sexy, often an overkill though) c# feels metallic, (too inflexible and always an overkill), and javascript is just sweet. So flexible and yet so effective. It feels beautiful.

Now am just ranting...

Excellent write up Dan!

Reply Naa.... Have stuff to start tomorrow.

I can. Now, state the specifics. What's in it for me? If ur talking business, pm me. If it's just a challenge, pls say so.

DanielTheGeek:
It's a freelance marketplace where anyone can exchange services for money.. I know there are already a lot of services like this but we are using a new technology which won't be secret for long (Can't talk about it yet) and combining social experience with the work-flow.

Cool. Ll keep my ears strained

Nothing serious...just jonsing...but you guys know that wearing suit to advertise for programming related stuff is like wearing snickers and shorts to represent a client in court, right?

That guy that is operating his laptop in suit, while looking at the camera looks like he has never being at a computer for more than 2 hours.

Again. Am just jonsing.

DanielTheGeek:
Yep, and I'm looking for a team... want to move into Cc-Hub ASAP

Interesting, Dan. Whats your start up about?

Wow! The site is so simple and free of clutter! I definitely like it!

I suspect the fonts could be nicer and some texts could use justification, But at this stage, I think you did an excellent job!

FrankLampard:
Larisoft your passion for programming is awesome, I would like to work in your company.

How do I send my CV.

Noted. Will inform you once an opportunity presents itself. Thanks for the confidence.

VenantCode:
That's awesome. How was the google code jam like, can you give me tips in participating ?

LOL! I didn't go very far at all so my advice is probably impotent in that regard. I couldn't get past a matrix problem that seemed simple at first glance but it felt awesome participating.

dhtml18:
I am not a GURU o, just a wannabe script kiddie on da block. . . .

Lol! See baba ooo. Eke aro sir! (I dont know the evening version)

VenantCode:
I do agree totally with what you said(I tried that once) I asked "have you done it before" because i wanted to know how you did your own, not that I disbelived you. IN btw do you participate in Google Code Jam

Yeah. I did last year. Dont know if its been held this year.

As to my methods, I mainly rely on AI to try to guess urls, guess encryption methods (selects the right algorithm from a list of algorithms using factory design pattern) grab and grill data which programmers thought unreachable because they encrypted it with simple ceaser cipher (you wouldnt believe how often thats used!). There are also ways to break android apps, and obtain data which many of us know here, like the regular change android extension, which hundreds of nigerian developers fall victim to, or the dex file decompilation which even I myself take for granted sometimes.

When a site/app is done by a senior developer, there is little you can do to it because they use the right frameworks to lock you out (try hacking c# mvc ), but with all the cheap, junior programmers, whom are getting all the jobs these days, the Nigerian internet landscape is practically begging anyone who is interested to hack it for fun, succeed, and land a job in the victim company. lol

By the by, am just giving my opinion now...enjoying the developer community like I always do.

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Arrested on what grounds? I believe the issue is not up for debate yet, if anyone takes it up, we ll discuss it then)(and please try to learn the position of the Nigerian law on that matter before u do) .

In the meantime, the easiest way to get the attention of a cto is to show him the vulnerabilities in what he has built.

and pen testing won't get u the attention. That's cheap. Am talking algorithms here, ppl. Try hacking Facebook. Succeed, send them the details of it exploit without abusing the data in anyway , tell me you ll be imprisoned.

danidee10:
Hacking a site

Well it's a two way scenario. You could get jailed for it, if the site owners decide to take the case up

No. It's called ethical hacking. Your helping them not stealing from them.

Provided you :

1. Let them know you hacked it
2. Let them know the vulnerabilities in the site
3. Do not destroy their data
4. Do not use their data for personal use...

FrankLampard:
Nice one Larry, where do you work?

larisoft Nig. We develop desktop, mobile and Web Apps. Based in Enugu

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Do you have a portfolio of at least 5 serious apps u ve worked on? (I don't mean index page Web templates)

You should add it here. Some big boys are watching. Then connect with some gurus in Lagos like dhtml.

Finally, try finding and hacking a site, then send the results of ur exploits to the sites owners. That works all the time.

If all fails, consider joining a tech firm near you for free. If ur good, opportunities will assail u before 2 months elapse.

Good luck bro. This field is heavily sought after. You ll get something soon.

Spring mvc all the way

thumbs up, bro. Its not easy to write code with that mindset that the public will read it

The minor criticisms I have are:

1. Both your github readme file, and your post here fail to define the exact unsolved problem this library addresses. You seem to assume that we will be interested in reading your code just because you wrote it, but as you can see, I am probably the only person who had that much interest. Please do something about that. 'preventing polluting your window object... and managing your javascript files' is just too vague.

2. The github link you shared is not pointing to the repository. I had to search for it myself. I imagine very few 'reviewers' and potential contributors are that patient.

3. Your comments are a little scanty.

I know these can be easily implemented since the main work is quite okay (atleast, the way I read it). Good job.

finco apps...making sense since 1900BC

dhtml18:
This is usually the point where i say santa maria.

lol! its been a while, sire!

07030692244. if the job is really 24 hours , contact me and consider it done.

sammyomal:
Thats a serious one.
but presently with the economic situation of things in our country, What do you think is the cheapest amount i can use to get a good laptop that can comfortable help in my quest even if its farely used

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35k can get a good laptop. I suggest you read this; http://larisoftng..com.ng/2016/07/buying-laptop-for-programming.html

dhtml18:
yes it can, thread closed and padlocked.

As in ehh!!!

sammyomal:
WOW...i also have a question o,pls to all the real time bosses in tha house.
Ive always had intrest in programming and presently i just concluded my 100l in one of the fed Universities.
The passion is there to really learn,but the means is a serious issue, Now i want to know, will it be possible learning how to code without having my own personal laptop or an easy access to one?

The answer is no. You will need to put in hours EVERY DAY.

The guys here have answered you well. The only thing I know that can stop you from programming is
1. Lack of dedication.
2. Unavailability of a computer
3. Unavailability of power supply.

If you could come to this forumn and post this question with this level of coherence, you can learn the basics.

As to programming and mathematics, two different games, man. You would need calculus to write unreal engine. But fortunately for us, you likely wont be writing unreal engine for a looooong time. And you can make a lot of impact in programming without having to write unreal engine.