Kukutente23:

Stop twisting words. I never said Saudi is a military dictatorship but it's a dictatorship nonetheless, same with China, Iran etc.

Your problem is thinking that a country must embrace democracy else it loses its sovereignty which I'm pointing out is totally false.

Vatican can't be a dictatorship because it is an ecclesiastical system. I hope you know what that means.

UK also can't be because the monarchy holds almost no power. It's simply ceremonial.

Again, read this slowly: There are countries that have absolute monarchies like Swaziland, Saudi, UAE etc and they are dictatorship even if not military. There are also countries with less obvious forms of dictatorship but still dictatorship nonetheless like China and Iran.

Hope I've broken it down to your iq level now. If not, well.... nothing more here. I can't go beyond this level. I'm not a kindergarten teacher.

No! It was the same king in 1992. So how is it different from a military law?......this is also you......

nairanaira12:

A sovereign country is a nation whose government has a supreme authority over its population and territory.

Does Niger government have Supreme authority over its population and territory?

So, why do you keep on arguing blindly, like a headstrong deceptive soul?

yes you have sovereignty over your nation that's one thing, getting me as an outsider to recognize your sovereignty is another......hope you understand?

Kukutente23:

Stop twisting words. I never said Saudi is a military dictatorship but it's a dictatorship nonetheless, same with China, Iran etc.

Your problem is thinking that a country must embrace democracy else it loses its sovereignty which I'm pointing out is totally false.

Vatican can't be a dictatorship because it is an ecclesiastical system. I hope you know what that means.

UK also can't be because the monarchy holds almost no power. It's simply ceremonial.

Again, read this slowly: There are countries that have absolute monarchies like Swaziland, Saudi, UAE etc and they are dictatorship even if not military. There are also countries with less obvious forms of dictatorship but still dictatorship nonetheless like China and Iran.

Hope I've broken it down to your iq level now. If not, well.... nothing more here. I can't go beyond this level. I'm not a kindergarten teacher.

Just one man decided what the law is in 1960 and in 1992. So how does that differ from what obtains in a military?
Bumbling ignoramus.....this is one of your quotes.....recognize it?......just hold on O.....let me break you down completely

nairanaira12:


When Nigeria was under military rule, was Nigeria a sovereign country then?

What kind of stupid explanation are you even giving?

Oga you can have control of your nation as military dictatorship but you cannot force other nations to recognize your sovereignty.....I'm beginning to understand that what you people consider as sovereignty is just border lines and the people but it extends far beyond that.....what was Nigerias international standing under Abacha?

OGHENAOGIE:
no elections it's basically selection.. within the communist party

yes it's selection but they still hold elections and vote......candidates indicate their interest get screened.....bla....bla.....bla.....point is they have a formal government you can rely on to a certain extent

Kukutente23:

Hahaha 😆 😂
This ignoramus is comparing a ceremonial head with little or no state powers in the UK with the Saudi King who holds all the power.
For your info, the Vatican is not a democracy as well. It's an ecclesiastical monarchy headed by the Pope.
I think you should let go of this one. It's obviously beyond your iq

is the Vatican a Monarchy yes or no? I never said the Vatican was a democracy, at no point did i say Saudi Arabia was a democracy, what i said is they are and act as a sovereign state their people and the rest of the world recognize and are glad to associate with....... Your whole point was that Saudi Arabia with their one man at the top was no different from Military Dictatorship, so my question to you now is the Vatican that is in the same position are you saying the pope and UK Crown(ceremonial as it may be) is a Military dictatorship as well? Cause that is the entire nail you've been hitting your head on since wey you no wan give yourself brain......if you and your people cannot form a government that I can wake up anytime of the day to trust you I do not consider you a sovereign state.......you as a military dictatorship have control over your land but you can't force the rest of the world to accept you.....if I enter into a contract with you today what happens when there's a counter coup or when your people decide to just behead you like Gaddafi? Do as you wish in your land but you can't force others to recognize your Sovereignty till you prove you can be trusted as a government and no Dictatorship has ever made it......

lexy2014:


Nigga is still sounding confused and boasting in his ignorance.

Pls what is a dictatorship?

What is the difference between a dictatorship and a sovereign state?

Is a dictatorship a state?

How does all you said preclude Niger from being a sovereign state?

cc: efeski

Oga you tell me.....you know it all.....

lexy2014:


You know. You have high IQ. You can read and comprehend and you claimed that china holds elections. So pls help answer the following....

1. Which electrons do they hold in China?

2. Are you the one that holds elections for them China?

3. What is a dictatorship?

4. What are the "tenets of a sovereign state"?

5. Since you say they do elections in China, how many political parties are in China?

Oga I don surrender to you na.....na you go teach me.....teach me please.....O wise one

lexy2014:


You haven't answered my questions.

1. Which electrons do they hold in China?

2. Are you the one that holds elections for them China?

3. What is a dictatorship?

4. What are the "tenets of a sovereign state"?

5. Since you say they do elections in China, how many political parties are in China?

Oga I don't know, na you go tell me na.....I'm here to learn from you.....

efeski:


The fact that they're considered dictatorships does not change the fact that they're sovereign nations in their own rights.

Also, stroll into North Korea to do what?
Force them to accept democracy?
Cos they're Big Brother or cos democracy is the next best thing since sliced bread?
After ousting Gaddafi, how is the country faring?
Also consider Afghanistan. Would you say the West's venture there was successful?

Let's be objective about these issues.

France is just strong arming Niger and it's just unfortunate.
The hypocrisy is disgusting
The should let Nigeriens sort out their own issues internally

Oga read my post on this thread, I'm not taking sides with France or care what Niger decides to do with their power structure, infact there's a post I said France should have been kicked out of Niger a long time ago, all ive just done is try to explain why i dont consider any country under a Dictatorship a sovereign state. and as for difference between a dictatorship and sovereign state look at it this way you work a job 9-5 every day, you drive your car and live in your house but every day I tell you where you can go, what you can eat, who you can F#ck, and how much of your salary if any you get to keep.....yes you're free and have a house and you drive your car but you only do that based on my whims, now when you Sit in the darkness at night wondering about your life will you feel free? Independent or in control of your life?

lexy2014:


You say they do elections in China.

1. Which electrons do they hold in China?

2. Are you the one that holds elections for them China?

3. What is a dictatorship?

4. What are the "tenets of a sovereign state"?

5. Since you say they do elections in China, how many political parties are in China?

okay I've accepted I don't know what I'm saying.....please teach me.......O great and wise one

lexy2014:


Pls try again....

1. Which electrons do they hold in China?

2. Are you the one that holds elections for them China?

3. What is a dictatorship?

China is not a perfect example which I have mentioned earlier, but they do hold up to the tenets of a sovereign state and how it relates to the functions of the state, it's economy and how it interacts with the rest of the world......if you cannot understand then go topple their government put them under military rule and let's see the fallout.

lexy2014:


You just realised? What have u been doing since?

What exactly have you said that is worth reading?

Do you comprehend all your posts before expecting others to comprehend them for you?

Oga it's not my fault you have a low I.Q.....I'm sorry please carry on....

lexy2014:


You even sound more confused than before. Your confidence in your ignorance will get u nowhere

like I said na me f#ck I no know say you no fit read to understand.....no worry.....carry on as you were.....

lexy2014:


Which electrons do they hold in China?

Are you the one that holds elections for them China?

What is a dictatorship?

The 2023 Chinese presidential election was held on 10 March 2023, at the 14th National People's Congress.

lexy2014:


You are sounding more and more confused. Put down the shovel

I just realized you have no ability to read and comprehend.....I'm sorry na me f#ck up.....

Kukutente23:

Keep quiet you ignoramus. Who promulgated the so- called basic law? Was it a national assembly or sovereign conference or constituent assembly?
No! It was the same king in 1992. So how is it different from a military law?
You're simply dumb if I have to spell it out to you like this.
While you're fixated on Saudi, how do you explain Afghanistan or Iran in the face of your obviously puerile definition?
You're an ignoramus. End of story

Oga you're right a Monarchy is the same as a military government......I guess the UK and The Vatican city too are a Military government......I've told you return your parents money.....it has not been useful in your life.....find something new to do with your life and stop wasting their resources....and don't quote me again till you've raised your I.Q.......

lexy2014:


How is the above related to this blunder below?



nairanaira12

is a military rule equal to government rule? Is Nigers currently independent in its workings cause if so why did the Junta sack all government heads and dissolve all government parastatals. as a sovereign state who else in the world is currently trading with them except their fellow military led countries? But it's fine your definition of a sovereign state is land borders, people and someone at the top doing whatever they like.....that's where your intelligence stops......

lexy2014:


My brother, those are the questions I have been asking Mr leokid866. He was just so confident in his ignorance. See another one

you're right a dictatorship does not hinder the sovereignty of a Nation, that's why Military led nations are called to join NATO, and EU, and the G7 and why ECOWAS and AU are all like its fine let's shake hands and sing kumbaya together.......the idea of a military rule takes away the choice of leadership for a state which is meant to be independent in its right as a state.....the idea of a millitary rule running across Africa brings the fear most especially to other African nations like Ghana and Togo that their right to independence could be taken from them and signals to the rest of the world that Africa as a whole is on shaky political grounds......but you don't see that cause to you land borders and the people are all that there is to a sovereignty.....okay....feel free to go to Niger or Burkina Faso or Mali since you're so sure of their sovereignty under military rule.....👍🏾

Kukutente23:

This guy is a ignorant as he is dumb. Where did you get this idea the you are sure of rights and protections under a "sovereign" state but you are not under a dictatorship?
This is dude is fucking ignorant. Was China not under a dictatorship and businesses went there? Or you think dictatorship is only about wearing military uniform? Guy just get lost and stop spewing nonsense on a public forum.
In case you don't know, sovereignty concept originally relates to kingship and their subjects. So are Kings not dictators?
Bleep off abeg

China is a communist state, sure it's far from democracy but they at least they hold up part of its tenets......legally you can't call them a dictatorship.....they still run elections and act as a democracy.....it's what separates them from North korea....

Johncarlo07:



Olodo!
Check d meaning of severeign state on Google,or use ur government textbook.

A sovereign state can make use of any system of government.be it dictatorship,oligarch, democracy, socialism, feudalism etc.

Ur not even wise at all! Nd some mumus still liked nd applaud ur ignorant post.

Wat a shame,😏😏

you're right just tell that to AU, EU, ECOWAS and the G7.....

CSTRR:

Go to Niger republic or even Northern Nigeria and see the suffering.

And then come back and talk about ''emotional''.

Oga na me put them for suffering? Shebi na dem talk say they want military rulers.....they even enter street dey praise them......as for Nigeria we will learn to survive.......

efeski:


So currently North Korea ain't a sovereign state ?
Abi Libya under the late Gadaffi wasn't a sovereign state back then ?

both were/are considered dictatorships.....if not for china's protection you think the US or Japan would not have strolled into North Korea since?

NwokoloOwa:
I told you guys that France will not agree to withdraw their Ambassador. Its a bait by France for the coup to try 'nonsense'. If they ever try arresting the Ambassador, then it's bye to the putschists

lol this is not even the first time a French ambassador will be kicked out.....France is just talk they will do nothing......

obyno82:


Then stop talking since it is none of your business.

because I gave the definition of a sovereign state......are we in a dictatorship on nairaland now? Is this no longer a public forum? You people are too emotional 😭

obyno82:


Still it doesn't remove the fact that Niger is a foreign state and that Franfe has no right to meddle in their business. They are fine with their military rulers and that is none of your business.

I'm not saying France or any nation has the right to meddle in their affairs, if they want to stay under a dictatorship that's fine by me, it doesn't take food off my plate......I'm just defining what is a considered a sovereign state......

lexy2014:


What is a sovereign state in the first place?

How does a dictatorship prevent a country from qualifying as a sovereign state?

Does France respect the sovereignty or the constitution of any country?

Oga follow my previous post.....I cannot be explaining to everyone who quotes me......

obyno82:


Did you say this when Nigeria was under military rule. If the people accept the military rulers it is their right because as you said they are a sovereign state.

a dictatorship by international definition will never be considered a sovereign state.....yes they have some characteristics of a sovereign state but not all......if you come into a sovereign state to do Business you are sure of the rights and protection the laws and constitution of that state guarantee.....but if you come into a dictatorship and the dictator decide to run you street who do you turn to ? Yes you can still head to the courts infact Abacha was sued here in Nigeria multiple times but how many of those cases went anywhere?

Kukutente23:

Fucking ignoramus
You should have read this part too:



Just one man decided what the law is in 1960 and in 1992. So how does that differ from what obtains in a military?
Bumbling ignoramus

you dumb f#ck the basic law is the law the of Governance and duties.....why are you st#pod like this.....you should return the money your parents used to educate you.....you f#cking waste of time and money......

nairanaira12:


There is something called Google use it if you aren't too mentally lazy to do simple research

A sovereign state is a state that has the highest authority over a territory.[1] International law defines sovereign states as having a permanent population, defined territory, a government not under another, and the capacity to interact with other sovereign states.[2] It is also commonly understood that a sovereign state is independent.[3]........this is what Google save now with this definition a d marking the bolded part can you call Niger in its current state a sovereign Nation?

nairanaira12:


Your definition of a sovereign state is stupid and sounds like the offshoot of mental daftness

okay since you are sane give us your definition

Nyne:


Mr newscaster, tell me what’s new since you read western news 24/7. Mumu

this just in local man found to be st#pid.....world not surprised......👨🏾‍💻