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BondRiv:
You conveniently left out the relevant part to this discussion from your highlight, which is politics.
Go and properly digest what I have sent you. Needless going back and forth.

are you saying that your own comment I highlighted is irrelevant?

BondRiv:
A lot of people foresaw this outcome, including me. If you don't know anything about law and politics, others do.

since you know a lot about law, which law gives Wike the power to control the affairs of rivers state?

makavalley:
He trying not show he is on Wike side and also trying not be as if he is against Fubara

what is the rule of law that tinubu wants to be followed in rivers state?

Drella:
1. Politicians since time immemorial have been receiving official cars since time immemorial. From the Legislative arm to the Executive arm. Even the Judicial arm who are not even politicians receive it when at certain level.
It didn’t start today, it is very usual!

2. No, civil service is not same as corporate world.

3. Many rules that apply in the corporate world don’t apply in the civil service but still, there are similarities is many of their rules. E.g Salaries, Allowance and benefits, security at certain levels, official cars and drivers at certain levels, etc.

4. I have never made a comment so far as to the rationality of that!

1. How have civil servants, judicial officers, politicians in the legislative and executive arms receive these official cars since time immemorial? do they budget for these cars for themselves and determine which cars they want?

b. what happens to the cars after service in office?

2. if civil service is not same corporate world, what is the wisdom in budgeting N7b for cars for members of the legislature alone?

3. since you are talking of similarities, what value does an individual need to add to get "certain levels" to be entitled to official car and driver?

is it the same or similar value that members of Lagos state HOA are adding to those they are supposed to serve?

whether in the civil service or corporate world, does a person need to get to a "certain level" before he or she is entitled to salaries, allowances and benefits?

4. I didnt say you mentioned anything about wives. if you read the article, you should have seen it mentioned.

how is it not unusual for a politician to include provision of cars for his wives in the budget of the state HOA?

shegz24:
And who told you that they were not loyal to the people of Rivers?

Is loyalty to Wike the opposite of loyalty to the people of Rivers?

You are asking the purpose of a "peace deal",... are you slow?

You can refer to anybody as anything you like as long as they dont deem it as defamation.
You can also be loyal or disloyal to anyone you like, it's not a crime anywhere in the world.

What the law focuses on is verifiable fact.

Verifiable fact like; Fubara officially ordering the demolition of the state HOR, conducting an election without INEC's approval, submitting the budget to 3 HOR members.

When you finally decide to use what is left of your brain you will understand my reference to Uba sani and Fashola....

Till then, Impeachment Looms and you can follow Fubara to his political abyss if you want.

I didnt ask you about demolition, uba sani or fashola.

these are the questions I asked you.

1. Can you please tell me why the 27 lawmakers in question are loyal to Wike instead of the people of rivers state?

2. As at May 2024, at least 6 commissioners had resigned their appointments.

They were referred to as "Pro-Wike Commissioners". why were they referred to as such and why did they resign?

3. In December 2023, it was reported that Tinubu brokered a "peace deal" between Fubara and Wike. what was the purpose of the "peace deal"?

Owombakara:
Lol...you should read my first mention. What interest can he possibly get when he's been in politics for 20 years without passing a single bill? Dude can't be better than Carney. With Carney's CV you can see he's very competent.

are the questions I asked about Pierre Poilievre or Mark Carney?

what if with all these qualifications, does the man have the boldness and patriotism to lead Canada?

are Canadians looking for a prime minister with a long CV or person who can the interest of the country above his?

bmaster2000:
It is not about being too soft or Wike's nonsense; it is about how Fubara became the governor of Rivers State. You can not build legality out of illegality.Fubura accepted the governorship position he did not deserve and the person who appointed him.The position made numerous sacrifices before Fubara could become governor. Now that Fubara is governor of Rivers State, you want to outwit the person who made these sacrifices on your behalf.....
Wike fights dirty regardless of what happens, and Fubara is aware of this....it is not all Greek gifts that you accept, especially when you know the giver will go to any length to destroy your political career if you default....Fubara has eaten with the devil with a short spoon....so, let him use his power of incumbency to protect himself.

Pls ooh oga, what is the "sacrifice" that Wike made on Fubara's behalf?

if "You can not build legality out of illegality", then where is the legality in the verdict of the supreme court?

which legality is Wike asking should be enforced in rivers state?

according to Wike

"If you have committed an offence to be impeached, what’s wrong? Is it a criminal offence? It’s provided in the constitution. Am I a member of the Assembly?" Wike queried.

since Wike knows that impeachment is provided for in the constitution, is it provided in constitution for him to make anyone governor of a state?

shegz24:
You are basing your "fact" on the unofficialities.

Officially, Wike's only connection with Rivers state is that he is representing them in the Federal Cabinet as a Minister of FG.

Now if you are talking unofficiality. Yes, the 27 lawmakers are loyal to Wike as Fubara should be if he had any sense.
Loyalty is not a crime and it is an unofficial debt owed to a benefactor that put you in position you didn't actually merit.

Without Wike, no one will know Fubara exists... even during the primaries and general election, many were against Wike "picking" Fubara.
Those same people are the ones that are pushing Fubara to misbehave-now that he is a Governor.

Even if you want to be disloyal, you cant be fighting Wike, and still do things against the Law
e.g
Demolition of Reps building
Conducting a sham of an election without INEC approval
Submitting a budget to 3 HOR members etc
Then he still went back on an agreement drafted by the President and signed by both parties.

When Fashola went against Tinubu, he had the backing of the GAC and they later resolved issues.
Uba Sani is currently against El Rufai but he has the backing of Kaduna HOR and the FG.

Wisdom.

I didnt ask you about demolition, uba sani or fashola.

these are the questions I asked you.

1. Can you please tell me why the 27 lawmakers in question are loyal to Wike instead of the people of rivers state?

2. As at May 2024, at least 6 commissioners had resigned their appointments.

They were referred to as "Pro-Wike Commissioners". why were they referred to as such and why did they resign?

3. In December 2023, it was reported that Tinubu brokered a "peace deal" between Fubara and Wike. what was the purpose of the "peace deal"?

omoredia:
US exposed them. By leveling the playing field

what did US expose and how did it do the exposing?

what level playing field is that?

how was the field not level previously?

oneMalik:
i will like this man to be given Ambode treatment .

Someone who cant win ward leader election in rivers was made a Governor and sense still never enter his HEAD

who made him governor?

madridguy:
To bite the hand that feeds you" means to be ungrateful or unappreciative towards someone who has helped or supported you.

who fed who and who bit the hand that did the feeding?

is there any constitutional provision for anyone to "feed" anyone?

robosky02:
The emperor
The conqueror
The lion is here


Hmmmmm

emperor of where?

where is his empire?

what did he conquer?

if he is a lion, is he not supposed to be in a forest or a zoo?

omoredia:
They have been taken advantage of the US all the while

that is not what I asked you.

if the EU has been exposed, what of the US?

BondRiv:
You have started with your irrelevant questions.

Define "Controlling the affairs of Rivers State."

In my previous reply which addressed the loyalty of the legislators to him, I told you that was political. There is no law compelling loyalty, it is political. He is the leader of PDP in Rivers State. So if you feel he is "controlling the affairs of the state" that is also politics. What law is Tinubu using in Lagos?

I shouldn't have to explain these things to you. You don't understand politics, but you are always in this section.

but you said

BondRiv:
A lot of people foresaw this outcome, including me. If you don't know anything about law and politics, others do.

since you know a lot about law, which law gives Wike the power to control the affairs of rivers state?

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how is he a millionaire?

even the pix you used is a lie.

how then can you convince anyone that your story is not a lie?

omoredia:
They were never allies. The EU has been exposed

if the EU has been exposed, what of the US?

makavalley:
He spoke so neutral you won't fault him from any angle

really?

what is the rule of law that tinubu wants to be followed in rivers state?

Wealthoptulent:
Rule Number 1. NEVER THINK IT CANT HAPPEN TO

Fubara na fura denun oponu from opobo,

No be to GET MONEY requires WISDOM, Knowledge can get u MONEY, only WISDOM Fit Sustain and Survive you

what is the wisdom that Fubara does not have?

what is the wisdom that wike and tinubu have?

amp01:
That's a childish talk,what consequences,if wike want the governor gone,he is gone and nothing you can do about it.

He has the law makers already,so it's very easy.

which law has given Wike the power to have the "lawmakers" of rivers state HOA?

IPIGSRSHALLOW:
Exactly.
A Governor that burned down a State house of Assembly in order to prevent them from impeachment him should be impeached by any means necessary.
A Governor should not be able to spend State money without proper appropriation by the legal house of assembly.
He should be impeached to serve as A deterant to others in the future.

but how is Obasa spending 7b naira for the purchase of cars for members of the HOA including his wives?

how was he impeached and ended up coming back to the house as speaker?

if the law must be followed, how is Wike boasting that he made Fubara governor?

is that part of the law?

Factcheck0001:
see your useless way of approaching matter

Only u wan fight everyone, no wonder many are destroyed beyond repair

what should be the useful way of approaching the matter?

Factcheck0001:
See where Igbos nzogbu nzogbu led this guy

Y fight a war u know u will lose? Just because u don't want to b called a coward

Now that u have lost, u will b more humiliated than a coward now

Wisdom is profitable to direct, fubara is another victim of the nzogbu nzogbu people

can you give a detailed explanation of how Fubara was led by Igbos?

where and when did Fubara meet with these igbos?

can you state the names of these Igbos?


According to Wike

“What is peace? What is important is, let the right thing be done. When the right things are done, there will be peace.

“But if the right thing is not done, how would you say you want peace? Peace is predicated on doing the right thing.

“Go and re-present the budget, go and submit the list of the commissioners. You cannot do illegality,” Wike said.

Did Fubara any commissioner?

if he didnt and the commissioners resigned on their own, why should Fubara represent their names again?

Wike is talking about doing the "right thing".

Wike boasted that he made Fubara governor. is that the right thing?

which law gave Wike the power to make anyone governor?

Scamburster:
Attention?? 🙄
when you are always sounding like a bot.

Scamburster:
Lol, you didn't ask questions here for the first time.

1. what question were you expecting me to ask?

2. did you read the exchange I had with the person I responded to or you just looking for attention?

BondRiv:
This is not within the realm of law but politics. If you know their political history, you will know why he wields that influence. You must have a knowledge of both law and politics to understand these issues. This one borders on politics. Wike is the leader of PDP in Rivers State.

according to you:

BondRiv:
A lot of people foresaw this outcome, including me. If you don't know anything about law and politics, others do.

since you know a lot about law, which law gives Wike the power to control the affairs of rivers state?

based on the supreme courts verdict and tinubu's plea for the rule of law to be followed, how is Wike's comments, boasts and rants in accordance with any law in Nigeria?

if he boasting that he made Fubara governor, is not clear evidence that he subverted the electoral process in Rivers state and disobeyed Nigeria's electoral laws?

does this fall outside Supreme courts verdict and tinubu's understanding of rule of law?

Frezhkid10:
Which other hospital in Nigeria comes close to Lasuth??

does your question answer the questions in my post you responded to?:

1. can you please explain how LASUTH is the best teaching hospital in Nigeria?

2. if it is that good, how come tinubu has to run to France every time he needs medical attention?

3. does LASUTH have cancer treatment facilities?

4. if it does, can you please name them?

Drella:
Myself and the person I quoted didn’t talk about his wives’ cars.

These people are lawmakers, you are not. It is in their laws for them to receive official cars.

how does all you said answer the questions I asked?

Drella:
Even in the corporate world, when you reach a certain level, you get a car and a driver. At that point, your salary is enough to get that for you but your company will still give you.

Nothing unusual here!

1. how is it not unusual?

2. Is civil service the same thing as the corporate world?

3. do the same rules that apply in the corporate world apply in civil service?

4. is the state house of assembly a company or a one man business where a person buys cars for his wives?

Drella:
Even in the corporate world, when you reach a certain level, you get a car and a driver. At that point, your salary is enough to get that for you but your company will still give you.

Nothing unusual here!

how is it not unusual?

Is civil service the same thing as the corporate world?

do the same rules that apply in the corporate world apply in civil service?

is the state house of assembly a company or a one man business where a person buys cars for his wives?

AguluLiar:
Keep quiet!

LASUTH is arguably the best teaching hospital in Nigeria.
It's better than LUTH and UCH.

There is no equipment they don't have, including MRI.

There's no hospital where patients don't die, even in the USA.
Most of these patients don't report their cases early. Some have gone to waste their time at various private hospitas before reporting at LASUTH.

Stop comparing your backward region to South West. South West is ahead by far.

can you please explain how LASUTH is the best teaching hospital in Nigeria?

if it is that good, how come tinubu has to run to France every time he needs medical attention?

does LASUTH have cancer treatment facilities?

if it does, can you please name them?

psucc:
We do not know the import of that DT blockage of foreign aids on the Nigerian economy. The impact will be felt heavily in the coming years when the current aids are exhausted.

Especially, the health sector will experience crisis of immeasurable dimensions.

how will the health sector experience crisis of immeasurable dimension?

is the health sector not already experiencing that crisis?

there have been similar cases of hostage "rescue" in Nigeria.

the difference between this Pakistan case and Nigeria is that our security forces are always very careful not to kill the kidnappers during the "rescue" operations.

this is very noble of our security forces.

every life is important

Ringstonermasks:
all right thinking people. You're a nobody and u don't fit into that criteria

who are these "right thinking people"?

how do you know you are one of them?