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oyebanji:
And that's enough to murder someone?

How was the EFCC man murdered?

helinues:
You know, you never condemned those who celebrated the death of the EFCC officer

Why should he condemn those who celebrated the death of the EFCC officer?

In the post you responded to, did you not read that the EFCC had officially and publicly instructed it's officials not to engage in night raids?

Why are you not condemning EFCC officials for acting outside official protocols?

Greenlandncom:
You can not be helped.

Can you show me anywhere in d questions below where I asked for help?

is a catholic priest supposed to be married?

if he chooses to marry, does he continue to be a catholic priest?

how does suspension suspend him from being a priest since he is married?

how does abandoning catholic priesthood by getting married leave "a seal or scar on his soul that cannot be erased"?

if he is a catholic priest and decides to marry, of what effect is the suspension?

sonmvayina:
You can't take holy orders, then turn around and take matrimony. It does not work I the RCC. It is either one of them...for life.

He should have waited for all the documentation to be complete...that's why people are saying what ever they like.
If he had waited. Nothing to talk about.

what are the "holy orders"?

why cant it not work because he took matrimony?

now that he has married, how will it not work?

can your "holy orders" nullify his marriage?

Greenlandncom:
That is what the suspension means, he can no longer practice if he decides to come back and it's also an official warning to all that he no longer represents the Church.

Theological, it's believed that he is a priest forever, even if he abandons it. It leaves a seal or scar on his soul that cannot be erased.

So suspension means, he can no longer function.

is a catholic priest supposed to be married?

if he chooses to marry, does he continue to be a catholic priest?

how does suspension suspend him from being a priest since he is married?

how does abandoning catholic priesthood by getting married leave "a seal or scar on his soul that cannot be erased"?

if he is a catholic priest and decides to marry, of what effect is the suspension?

Buharidgeneral:
Plenty people. Can count 3 within my cycle. Just normal accounting work. Employee and employer relationship. Some even 3 days onsite 2 days remotely

are you among those doing normal accounting work in your circle and being paid more than 1m naira by your employer?

dettolgel:
I don't know where schooled - you can read and write learn how to research and use your brain rather than being lazy.

pls what is the meaning of the highlighted?

are you not aware that asking questions is the foundation of research?

how is research carried out?

since you are using your brain and not being lazy, then you should have no problems answering the following

dettolgel:
Suspension is different from the loss of clerical state (commonly referred to as laicization, dismissal, defrocking, and degradation).

"The removal from the clerical state differs from suspension. The latter is a censure prohibiting certain acts by a cleric, whether the acts are of a religious character deriving from his ordination ("acts of the power of orders" or are exercises of his power of governance or of rights and functions attached to the office he holds. As a censure, suspension is meant to cease when the censured person shows repentance. Removal from the clerical state, on the contrary, is a permanent measure, whereby for a sufficient reason a cleric is from then on juridically treated as a layman."

The answer to your question is in the text above. I hope you will be able to figure it out this time.

1. is a reverend father supposed to be married?

2. now that this guy is married, is he still a rev father?

3. according to you "As a censure, suspension is meant to cease when the censured person shows repentance".

what is the repentance the married rev father is supposed to show?

4. so wetin dem de suspend?

dettolgel:
1. What is the difference between celibacy and asexuality?

dont you want to follow the steps you said should be followed?

What is the difference between celibacy and asexuality?

dettolgel:
Baby step one step at a time no rush.

So let start from the top:

dettolgel:
One step at a time:

dettolgel:
Only when you are able to answer this simple question will you be allowed to continue to the next stage.

is it now "stage" that you want?

I thought it was "process" and one step at a time" you wanted?

is this not the "one step at a time" and process you said should be trusted?

dettolgel:
One step at a time. Do you really understand what one step at a time means?

Trust the process

Step1: I hope you can defend the claims you are still making?

Steo2: What is the meaning of "one step at a time"?

Step3: Can you show me the epistle you are referring to?

Step4: Can you address you claims?

Step5: you claimed that

dettolgel:
You asked what was the relationship between celibacy and the fasting

where did I ask you "what was the relationship between celibacy and the fasting"?

Step 6: if the discussion is about sexual attraction (meaning there is an object of attraction), how then is hunger a good analogy since you have agreed that hunger is not an attraction?

Step 7: The question I asked is “how do you not yield to sexual urges?” but you are talking about “how to yield to sexual urges”.

Step8: if there are people who dont have the urge for sex and live accordingly, how is that not celibacy?

Step 9: like I said, you are the one who made the assumption. not me
if you are making an assumption, my question is based on the assumption you made.

dettolgel:
I would assume just like a straight man knows that he finds women attractive

how do you assume a man finds a woman attractive?

Not sure if I asked for an example.

Step10: What assumption are you expecting me to make?

Step11: What is the disagreement about the definition of celibacy that you want me to clarify?

Greenlandncom:
I have said this severally.

He CANNOT release himself. He has to be released. What he simply did was to err.

To be released, he has to apply officially and there are processes and procedures for that to happen.

Let's even take a legally contracted marriage, does the marriage end simply by abandoning it or does one have to go through the legal process and procedure for the marriage to be dissolved?

The same concept applies here.

as he is married, does he still remain a catholic priest because he has not been "released"?

baralatie:
Are you in the catholic disciplinary committee handling the matter?

when you said this below, are you in the catholic disciplinary committee handling the matter?

baralatie:
Well with this report.
The church would investigation the matter hence the suspension
And when found to be true
Well
The church will decide

We4all:
He already gave away his freedom to make choices the day he choose to become a priest. That man took a vow before the altar of God to stay celibate. He had a covenant with God and reneged because of sins of the flesh.

I am not judging him, but I am pissed that he made a mockery of his faith. Why didn't he become a Pentecostal pastor if he knew he wasn't going to stay true to his vows?

how did he make a mockery of his faith?

is there anywhere in the Bible that says you should make a vow to God to stay celibate?

dettolgel:
Suspension is different from the loss of clerical state (commonly referred to as laicization, dismissal, defrocking, and degradation).

"The removal from the clerical state differs from suspension. The latter is a censure prohibiting certain acts by a cleric, whether the acts are of a religious character deriving from his ordination ("acts of the power of orders" or are exercises of his power of governance or of rights and functions attached to the office he holds. As a censure, suspension is meant to cease when the censured person shows repentance. Removal from the clerical state, on the contrary, is a permanent measure, whereby for a sufficient reason a cleric is from then on juridically treated as a layman."

The answer to your question is in the text above. I hope you will be able to figure it out this time.

is a reverend father supposed to be married?

now that this guy is married, is he still a rev father?

according to you "As a censure, suspension is meant to cease when the censured person shows repentance".

what is the repentance the married rev father is supposed to show?

so wetin dem de suspend?

except my arithmetics is wrong, 75,000 multiplied by 70,000,000 is 5,250,000,000,000 i.e. 5trillion naira.

where will this money come from?

how can a government claim to distribute 5trillion naira as a strategy to reducing hardship?

how can a government remove fuel subsidy which kept inflation and cost down because it claims fuel subsidy was unsustainable only to start distributing free money to people without productivity?

how is this sustainable?

helinues:
You go ask questions tired.

Oya repeat your question again..

how will 75000 reduce hardship?

Greenlandncom:
I have said this severally.

He CANNOT release himself. He has to be released. What he simply did was to err.

To be released, he has to apply officially and there are processes and procedures for that to happen.

Let's even take a legally contracted marriage, does the marriage end simply by abandoning it or does one have to go through the legal process and procedure for the marriage to be dissolved?

The same concept applies here.

go and carry him to come and do priest since you say he cannot release himself.

1. if he has released himself by getting married, which other official release can release him?

2. which ministry has he abandoned?

3. how has the disciplinary measure "disciplined" him now that he is married?

On November 30, 2024, Rev Fr Daniel Okanatotor Oghenerukevwe, who has been out of active ministry and without any official assignment in the United States of America, contacted me with a request to be released from all canonical obligations and responsibilities associated with Holy Orders within the Roman Catholic Church.

4. someone that said he wants to be released from his priestly responsibilities, how did he err and how does the suspension serve as a disciplinary measure?

Addme:
How else do we explain to the government that this is not the way to go.
They are just trying to give some people opportunity to swindle the money .

they are giving people the opportunity to swindle money or they want to swindle money?

helinues:
But na you people have been describing hardship more than those who are experiencing it.

What's the logic?

how will 75000 reduce hardship?

dettolgel:
1. What is the difference between celibacy and asexuality?

dont you want to follow the steps you said should be followed?

What is the difference between celibacy and asexuality?

dettolgel:
Baby step one step at a time no rush.

So let start from the top:

dettolgel:
One step at a time:

dettolgel:
Only when you are able to answer this simple question will you be allowed to continue to the next stage.

is it now "stage" that you want?

I thought it was "process" and one step at a time" you wanted?

is this not the "one step at a time" and process you said should be trusted?

dettolgel:
One step at a time. Do you really understand what one step at a time means?

Trust the process

Step1: I hope you can defend the claims you are still making?

Steo2: What is the meaning of "one step at a time"?

Step3: Can you show me the epistle you are referring to?

Step4: Can you address you claims?

Step5: you claimed that

dettolgel:
You asked what was the relationship between celibacy and the fasting

where did I ask you "what was the relationship between celibacy and the fasting"?

Step 6: if the discussion is about sexual attraction (meaning there is an object of attraction), how then is hunger a good analogy since you have agreed that hunger is not an attraction?

Step 7: The question I asked is “how do you not yield to sexual urges?” but you are talking about “how to yield to sexual urges”.

Step8: if there are people who dont have the urge for sex and live accordingly, how is that not celibacy?

Step 9: like I said, you are the one who made the assumption. not me
if you are making an assumption, my question is based on the assumption you made.

dettolgel:
I would assume just like a straight man knows that he finds women attractive

how do you assume a man finds a woman attractive?

Not sure if I asked for an example.

Step10: What assumption are you expecting me to make?

Step11: What is the disagreement about the definition of celibacy that you want me to clarify?

baralatie:
Well with this report.
The church would investigation the matter hence the suspension
And when found to be true
Well
The church will decide

a reverend father is not supposed to be married.

now that he is married, it means he is automatically no longer a rev father.

so wetin dem de suspend?

Greenlandncom:
Did he confer the authority on himself? If no how can he release himself?

He has to be fully and officially released until then, he is still a Priest but an erring one.

If you know anything about the military that's even an earthly stuff and can't just go like that without being released, that would be an AWOL an you will be wanted.

good. hence my questions.

1. if he has released himself by getting married, which other official release can release him?

2. which ministry has he abandoned?

3. how has the disciplinary measure "disciplined" him now that he is married?

On November 30, 2024, Rev Fr Daniel Okanatotor Oghenerukevwe, who has been out of active ministry and without any official assignment in the United States of America, contacted me with a request to be released from all canonical obligations and responsibilities associated with Holy Orders within the Roman Catholic Church.

4. someone that said he wants to be released from his his priestly responsibilities, how did he err and how does the suspension serve as a disciplinary measure?

fergie001:
Photos of suspended Catholic priest, Rev. Fr. Daniel Okanatotor Oghenerukevwe and his bride in the US

what is there to suspend when the guy is married?

Greenlandncom:
He requested, has he been officially released?

And since he has not been officially released yet, even if he abandons his ministry, he is still a Priest though a erring one and must still be disciplined.

if he has released himself by getting married, which other official release can release him?

which ministry has he abandoned?

how has the disciplinary measure "disciplined" him now that he is married?

On November 30, 2024, Rev Fr Daniel Okanatotor Oghenerukevwe, who has been out of active ministry and without any official assignment in the United States of America, contacted me with a request to be released from all canonical obligations and responsibilities associated with Holy Orders within the Roman Catholic Church.

someone that said he wants to be released from his his priestly responsibilities, how did he err and how does the suspension serve as a disciplinary measure?

Konquest:
This is why body cams are required in special operations such as these to take down criminals. Justice must be served regardless.

which criminals were they looking for at 3am in the morning?

helinues:
Do you have an idea of how much Ghana ( Aflao) is making from those who are coming from Niger, Chad, Cameroon to Ivory Coast?

how much?

how will the rail line divert those travelling from cameroon, niger and chad to ivory coast?

PressMyButton:
Tinubu needs to be studied as a course, he is very unpredictable so much so, his enemies cannot predict his next moves. All these Governors, rather than learn from Jagaban, they're busy fighting their predecessors.
Show me any projects of Buhari that Tinubu has abandoned?, none. He's going to complete everything and also build his own projects, that's how to build legacy and write your name in gold. Past Presidents have come and cancel projects of their predecessors to score cheap political points. This very project must be completed, we have already obtained loans for it and work is ongoing, it would be foolish to stop it. It is also very important to send a message to the Junta in Nigeria republic that Nigeria is not having any beef with the country. Niger is our little brother, if we use one hand to smack them on the butt, we use the other hand to draw them closer.

was it not this same tinubu that was running helter skelter to free the northern protesters that he had earlier charged with treason after northern politicians sneezed?

PressMyButton:
See them enemies of progress, a $2billion project should be abandoned just because you sit behind your keyboard to talk trash. Then, APC should build a super flying train from Abuja to Lagos, as if it is not bitter people like you that is always wailing over any projects from Lagos connecting other parts of the country. APC already has a blue print of the road projects they want to complete across the country, let them do their work. Draw up your own lists and give it to your online President if he ever smells the seat.

if he is sitting behind his keyboard, where are you sitting?

how is building a rail line to Niger republic more important than connecting Abuja to Ibadan by rail?

is that not the original plan or you think Kaduna to Abuja is where the rail line is supposed to stop?

can you share with me the blueprint that APC has of road projects that they want to complete across the country?

after 10 years of APC, are you saying they are still at the level of "they want to..."?

omoredia:
Not as vocal as under GEJ which was a clearly better regime. So be fair in ur assessment

can you show me the assessment that I made?

Strict regulations against kidnapping, banditry, illicit drug trade, and the unlawful use of properties for criminal activities.

what are the "strict regulations"?

do crimes need regulation or they need to be outlawed dealt with accordingly?

omoredia:
He is a religious and tribal bigot who speaks only for his personal and sectional interest and not for the interest of Nigeria as a whole

I didnt ask you if he is a religious and tribal bigot or not.

I asked how was he silent during buharis administration?

saphiere:
nlfpmod lalasticlala seun why do men hate single mothers this much?

why do you want men to love single mothers?

which men? is it the men you talked about on your profile?

saphiere:
It's not about providing here. A lot of those mothers can feed the child and even the so called man.

The issue is them being looked down on. No man wants to marry them.

Most of you men are liabilities we all know that.

If you carry out a survey in Nigerian homes, 80% of the homes the wives are the breadwinners.

how did you come up with all these conclusions?

are you saying that there are single mothers who have married?

if you say men are liabilities, why are you still bothered that those liabilities dont want to marry single mothers?

which survey did you carry out and you found out that in 80% of homes, women are the breadwinners?

dettolgel:
1. What is the difference between celibacy and asexuality?

What is the difference between celibacy and asexuality?

dettolgel:
Baby step one step at a time no rush.

So let start from the top:

dettolgel:
One step at a time:

dettolgel:
Only when you are able to answer this simple question will you be allowed to continue to the next stage.

is it now "stage" that you want?

I thought it was "process" and one step at a time" you wanted?

is this not the "one step at a time" and process you said should be trusted?

dettolgel:
One step at a time. Do you really understand what one step at a time means?

Trust the process

Step1: I hope you can defend the claims you are still making?

Steo2: What is the meaning of "one step at a time"?

Step3: Can you show me the epistle you are referring to?

Step4: Can you address you claims?

Step5: you claimed that

dettolgel:
You asked what was the relationship between celibacy and the fasting

where did I ask you "what was the relationship between celibacy and the fasting"?

Step 6: if the discussion is about sexual attraction (meaning there is an object of attraction), how then is hunger a good analogy since you have agreed that hunger is not an attraction?

Step 7: The question I asked is “how do you not yield to sexual urges?” but you are talking about “how to yield to sexual urges”.

Step8: if there are people who dont have the urge for sex and live accordingly, how is that not celibacy?

Step 9: like I said, you are the one who made the assumption. not me
if you are making an assumption, my question is based on the assumption you made.

dettolgel:
I would assume just like a straight man knows that he finds women attractive

how do you assume a man finds a woman attractive?

Not sure if I asked for an example.

Step10: What assumption are you expecting me to make?

Step11: What is the disagreement about the definition of celibacy that you want me to clarify?