₦airaland Forum

true2god:
I am not sure your Islamic teacher, who taught you the basics of Islam, could speak a very good english before he was able to brainwash you with Islamic teachings. Fluency in english language is not an important criteria to make a very good Islamic scholar/teacher. So forgive my bad english, it is not my mother tongue.

Not to derail the thread, I asked you show me the punishment for drinking and adultery as contained in the Quran. Please also show me where it was written in your Koran that you must go for hajj. Also show me, from your Koran, where it is written that you must pray 5 times a day.

"SO (GIVE) GLORY TO ALLAH, WHEN YE REACH EVENTIDE AND WHEN YE RISE IN THE MORNING;" 18 "YEA,TO HIM BE PRAISE, IN THE HEAVENS AND ON EARTH; AND IN THE LATE AFTERNOON AND WHEN THE DAY BEGINS TO DECLINE."

“O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al-Ansaab, and Al-Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful”

[al-Maa’idah 5:90]

true2god:
I don't think you make a C in English language if you cannot comprehend a simple one-paragraph response from me. Though, unlike a kid, I am not here to debate english words with you. To make my points clearer to you, if the hadith is segmented into an authentic, a weak and a fake hadith, then we can conclude that the entire hadith is not reliable hence a useless piece of document fashioned by the Arabs for their imperial ambition. It is not a rocket science that is hard to understand, it is common sense.

I am here to educate willing Muslims who refused to be dogmatic.

Temysteve:
The bible says ''Do NOT love the world or the things in the world'' if you stay true to what you believe in, you won't contradict your religion.

distilledwalex:
Youve given him one already

goldedprince:
Bleep allah. Bleep all moslems, Bleep all suicide bombers

true2god:
You lack knowledge of your religion and I won't be tired of teaching you. What is the punishment for adultery in Islam? From which book do you get the verdict, the Quran or the hadith?

What the punishment for drinking? From which book do you get the verdict?

Where do you get your instruction to pray 5 times a day?

Where do you get advise to go for hajj and umra, Quran?

true2god:
I will respect you by not saying that you lack simple logic. If a maths teacher gives you an unreliable text book to prepare for an exam, will you accept such text book or reject it? Of course you will reject it which ultimately renders such a text book useless. What is in the reliability of a material which is not authentic, confusing, contradictory and full of fabrications?

If I give you an AC manual which is not clear and very contradictory as a consumer, is it reliable? No. Is the manual useless, Yes. So I dont know if you do basic logic in school. Or are you a secondary school pupil? And Fya, I left the university over 8 years ago, not to be proud bro.

To buttress your point, if the hadith is not reliable then it is a USELESS reference material.

Mekanus:
God deliver her? Is it not that same god that made her that way? God was probably banging one pretty angel while making this baby. What a perfect god

futurism:
the website, was it for business or religion? Mind you, we are talking religion here, not otherwise. My guess is that website is for business.

true2god:
Where do you get over 90% of the sharia law from, the Quran or the hadith?

true2god:
Why don't you guys burn the hadith since it is not reliable? Or do you want to be picking anything you want from the unreliable hadith?

plainbibletruth:
So you're saying that you will rather go with the quran than the hadith, right?

plainbibletruth:
You got it!

There are so many questions about their holy books which they CANNOT answer truthfully.

true2god:
What exactly is wrong with Islam? No singing, no dancing, no clapping. These are what God has blessed human being it which Islam tries to destroy. Anything Islam touches=destruction.

Can you show me where singing, clapping or dancing, unto the lord, is a sin?

alBHAGDADI:
Does it make any sense to Introduce Arabic studies in Nigerian educational system when we still have over 200 languages that we are yet to study? Is Arabic a language that is productive? How has Arabic improved the backward Arab world? Don't get me wrong, but the development in Qatar, Dubai and UAE are all done by white men whose language supports construction and Development. Arabic language is only in line with Islam.

Since we all know that Arabic is the language of Islam, why didn't they create an option that allows the study of Jewish or Greek languages which are in line with Christianity? No, they wont cos their aim is to systematically islamize Nigeria, a thing that will fail.

Arabic language adds no value to one's life other than being able to read the terror manual called Quran. Aren't they satisfied with their. issues and madrassahs that they now want to start corrupting the children of the Living God with a barbaric ideology?

If you are a Christian and you don't speak against this, i wonder if you think you and your children will be able to they devilishly sneak in Sharia law.

We reject Islam and Arabic language

true2god:
See below:

Psalm 33:1-3
Sing for joy in the LORD, O you righteous ones; Praise is becoming to the upright. Give thanks to the LORD with the lyre; Sing praises to Him with a harp of ten strings. Sing to Him a new song; Play skillfully with a shout of joy.



Psalm 96:1-2
Sing to the LORD a new song; Sing to the LORD, all the earth. Sing to the LORD, bless His name; Proclaim good tidings of His salvation from day to day.

Psalm 5:11:
But let all who take refuge in You be glad, Let them ever sing for joy; And may You shelter them, That those who love Your name may exult in You.

Psalm 9:11:
Sing praises to the LORD, who dwells in Zion; Declare among the peoples His deeds.





2 Kings 11:12
Verse Concepts
Then he brought the king's son out and put the crown on him and gave him the testimony; and they made him king and anointed him, and they clapped their hands and said, "Long live the king!"

Psalm 47:1
O clap your hands, all peoples; Shout to God with the voice of joy.

Psalm 98:8
Let the rivers clap their hands, Let the mountains sing together for joy

Read judges 11:34, judges 21:21-23 and psalm 30:11.

true2god:
Singing, dancing and clapping unto the Lord is part of worshipping God. Do you want me to show you where he have them in the Bible?

true2god:
Sorry bro if my points sound strange to you, your imams and sheiks with never tell you the truth. The Koran is not Allah or Mohammed's idea but the brainchild Abu Bakr and Omar. See the hadith below:


sahih bukhari Volume 6, Book 61, Number 509 :
Narrated by Zaid bin Thabit
Abu Bakr As-Siddiq sent for me when the people! of Yamama had been killed (i.e., a number of the Prophet's Companions who fought against Musailama). (I went to him) and found 'Umar bin Al-Khattab sitting with him. Abu Bakr then said (to me), "Umar has come to me and said: "Casualties were heavy among the Qurra' of the! Qur'an (i.e. those who knew the Quran by heart) on the day of the Battle of Yalmama, and I am afraid that more heavy casualties may take place among the Qurra' on other battlefields, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost. Therefore I suggest, you (Abu Bakr) order that the Qur'an be collected." I said to 'Umar, "How can you do something which Allah's Apostle did not do?" 'Umar said, "By Allah, that is a good project. "Umar kept on urging me to accept his proposal till Allah opened my chest for it and I began to realize the good in the idea which 'Umar had realized." Then Abu Bakr said (to me). 'You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Apostle. So you should search for (the fragmentary scripts of) the Qur'an and collect it in one book)." By Allah If they had ordered me to shift one of the mountains, it would not have been heavier for me than this ordering me to collect the Qur'an. Then I said to Abu Bakr, "How will you do something which Allah's Apostle did not do?" Abu Bakr replied, "By Allah, it is a good project." Abu Bakr kept on urging me to accept his idea until Allah opened my chest for what He had opened the chests of Abu Bakr and 'Umar. So I started looking for the Qur'an and collecting it from (what was written on) palmed stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it by heart, till I found the last Verse of Surat At-Tauba (Repentance) with Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him. The Verse is: 'Verily there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty..(till the end of Surat-Baraa' (At-Tauba) (9.128-129) Then the complete manuscripts (copy) of the Qur'an remained with Abu Bakr till he died, then with 'Umar till the end of his life, and then with Hafsa, the daughter of 'Umar.

Do you accept or reject the above hadith?

true2god:
Singing, dancing and clapping unto the Lord is part of worshipping God. Do you want me to show you where he have them in the Bible?

true2god:
I won't mind giving you a free Islamic lecture, it is part of my contributions to humanity. Let's read Quran 65:4:

And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women – if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah – He will make for him of his matter ease.

The ayah above talked about the waiting period before a divorced woman an remarry. In Islam and Arab culture it is 3months. I will like to look at the three categories of people listed in the ayah above, and they are:

1. Women that no longer see their menstrual period, that is women that have entered menopause.

2. Pregnant women

3. Women who have never experienced any form of menstruation. The third category is my area of interest. What age bracket can we find in this category? This is between the ages of 0-12 years. So a woman between this age bracket can be divorced, according to Qur'an 65:4. I am not the one making this claim, it is in the Quran. If this is verse does not encourage pedophilia what does it encourage?

And to make it clearer to you, Mohammed engaged baby Aisha when she was 6 and started sleeping with her when she was 9. It is in your sahih Muslim and sahih bukhari.

true2god:
Which Qur'an are you talking about, is it the one you have at home? Bros don't get it twisted, Mohammed didn't ask his sahabas to compile all his alleged revelations as a book and publish it as a standard religious text. When Abu Bakr suggested the idea to Omar, he was sceptical about it and the hadith called the current Quran 'Abu Bakr's project' and was executed by uthman.

Did allahh asked Abu Bakr to compile the Quran? Was Abu Bakr also inspired by allahh?

plainbibletruth:
Refute! Refute! Refute!

Yet to refute what? Nonsense?

Did you even attempt to respond to my very first post on this thread, not to talk of refuting it? You have not!

Yet here you are talking about refuting.

For your information, there are silent readers who are being guided aright.

You may want to refute this also!

So, for starters, what is your refutation of my posts, starting with my first post?


"Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
John 14: 6

plainbibletruth:
Long epistle indeed!

I understand that you guys can only handle small bits of rational information at a time.

I also know that focusing on a topic or an issue can be very tasking for you guys. You prefer shifting from one thing to the other because UNCONSCIOUSLY you don't want to face the REALITY of the life of your prophet and most importantly your religion.

That is why as we can see from these posts you've been UNABLE to respond reasonably to any of the issues we have raised.

Even if we were to ask you to answer a simple 'Yes' or 'No' to questions about your prophet, it would be VERY DIFFICULT because you're unprepared to face the TRUTH.

Yet the TRUTH will eventually CONQUER all falsehoods.

"Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
John 14: 6

true2god:
I, upset? What qualities do Islam have? Is it religious intolerance (Quran 9:28)? Is it the sanctioning of pedophillia (Quran 65:4)? Is it the promotion of enmity and hatred (Quran 5:51)? Is it the sanctification of terror (Quran 2:171-2, sahih Bukhari 4:52:220)?

If the above are good qualities then Islam is a stupid religion for the early men.