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nnamdi640:Give example the land FG has seized from Lagos without giving a vague talk and we will know explanation behind it. Collection of land is not collection of soul , or is it the end of life? why killing yourself then? |
nnamdi640:Your people will get sense las las that this thing is a blessing in disguise, to make you develope your home and stop this sitting at home you do on every monday morning. |
nnamdi640:You will die in Ignorance not me, are you okay? Who is claiming Lagos? Let the state help their indegenes, if they want, why are you people crying?!. The apartment your father rent in Lagos, you will give the land owners their right to review if they will continue with you and if not , you can return to your dirty village. Or else if your father wants to die in strange land then the choice is his. |
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nnamdi640:He will tell them. |
ginggerxy:Open your empty and vacuum brain let me pour sense in it. If Yoruba dey fight themselves for Yoruba land or Yoruba dey dominate Lagos indigenes, leave them now , sebi na the same people dem be , are they complaining to you Igbos? or do think Lagos indegenes are on your side? |
Jeffy1206:Na ogunlade go kill you! You belong to zone c , why not zone b, because you are zombie and that's who you are. Do you think IAM like your illiterate and your dead brain father who can't reason past emotion. We are enlightened and educated in areas of Geography and Anthropology, we put works on the internet and also do physical publication, so we are not like uneducated and unexposed idiot like you, who has not travelled to see what's obtainable even in communities within his state. It's a universal truth or known facts in geographical studies that ; 1: A geographical area/state is different from an ethnic group/Nation. 2. Ethnic groups/Nations do spread across the borders of neighboring states or can be split when two or more different states are created or carved out from one another while the ethnic groups still remain. States/Countries/and even local government may be different but people split in both sides of the divides. People /ethnic groups/nations are different from a state. Don't be deceived by boundaries, people /ethnic groups have been existing before the creation of state and it's boundaries.! Bastard! Based on location and boundaries (neighbours) examples are Yoruba : Benin republic, Southwest Nigeria, Togo, Southern part of kwara , southwestern kogi e.t.c idiot ,dey play, Ijebu , Awori, and Egun are present in Lagos and Ogun indegenously as a result of borders and being neighbours. Infact Lagos only share boundaries with ogun state (& Atlantic ocean). Do you think it's a fluke , if not for borders and closeness between the two states, will that happen, why don't we have awori and Egun indegenously in Ondo states. Mumu Hausa : Nigeria ( north/northwest) , Niger republic (South) e.t c Nupe :. Niger , Kogi (north west) , kwara (north) Baruba:. Kwara (n/west) , Niger ,Benin republic Kanuri ; Yobe ,, Borno, Niger republic ( southeast), Chad , Cameroon (northwest) That's how it is even across the world , even in Africa ,, berbers in Iraq and Iran, Indian (Kurds) and Pakistan (Kurds) Igbo : southeast, kogi (South East) and Benue( South)( border in South by Enugu and Ebonyi) Do your due diligence and do your research and visit without emotion. It's natural , geographical entities sharing borders we have the same people/ethnic groups spread across it. People have been existing before creation of state and borders , borders does not stop your spreading or expansions across. infact it's their land , they just find themselves within different territories and that is what is confusing you and your head , shame on you and your mother. Do more reading and research ( physical or virtual) , you will have sense and knowledge. |
nnamdi640:You are crude , uneducated and uninformed. |
nnamdi640:Fg and state government don't overlap in that area, they have their respective portion or allocation. |
nnamdi640:You are Ignoramus, you can't differentiate the power of the state from the power of federal government.. Go to adult school. |
nnamdi640:Which document are you talking about ? or do you think it's receipt you collect in computer village? Boy , it's statutory. |
muhammaduyusufu:And after migration to the southeast, if they are comfortable or welcomed |
Nathan2016:Which is geopolitical zones or geographical zone?\(°o°)/ Or ethnic group is not the same as geographical zone. |
nnamdi640:Ogbeni, law will clear your face, criminality my foot. |
nnamdi640:. Oh boy, if it's law , it's law. Which documents? You for kuku call am receipt.. You can check the agreements on the land your father bought to know the details or go to Lagos Secretariat in Alausa, IKEJA.. People wey no like to develope their place but they can die in another's man land and their calling for the nation of their own, that's ironic |
Jeffy1206:Look at this bastard! When you won't read , just like your forefathers would not read. All emotion , parts of the reason Fulani and jukuns , massacre your people because you think there are no other indigenes in your backward state. Go back home and go ask your fathers in their respective communities.. This maggot is telling me there are no indegenous Igbo in Benue.. Benue , a state that is sitting on two Igbo states of Enugu and Ebonyi , you are not reasonable! Igbo Communities in Benue state: The Igbos in Benue State particularly those in Ado, Oju, Obi and Okpoku LGAs of the state were in existence before the advent of Christian religion in Nigeria. The Igbos in Benue can be found in Umuezeokoha, Umuezeoka, Oriuzor, Umuoghara, Amaekka and Amaezekwe all in Ezza communities, Izzi, Ezzamgbo and Effiu. The people of Umuezeokoha has many villages. If you are to calculate the number of Igbo-speaking villages in Benue State, outside Umuezeokaoha, you would be talking altogether about over 600 villages. Three of the biggest markets in Benue are all in the Igbo-speaking part. The markets are Inikiri Ichari, Iddah, Iduokpe. There are also some Igbo speaking Idoma towns in Benue State. Culled from Igbo History https://www.anaedoonline.ng/2021/04/27/x-raying-benue-igbos/[/quote] |
ginggerxy:If you are sensible , you will know the politics between the indegenes of Lagos and the other Yoruba indigenes and politics of Yoruba ( in general) vs the Igbo are not the same. Indigenes of Lagos will be proud of their state yes , but they still work hard in hand with the Yoruba in the state , their mutual support is needed. Even though they will be proud of their state and feel entitled to it at the expense of the other Yoruba indigenes, fine, but the politics between them is none of your business. If you guys are not loudsy, do not have domineering spirit and calm, how is their politics yours . Your own stupidity is the claim "Lagos is no man's land " which is why sensible Yoruba unite against you . I have heard this stupid talk from so many of you .. ... If not for resistance , you would have dominated a lot of people, it's in your blood. That's what you do everywhere including the South South . You wanderers , should always think deeply and sensibly and respect your host , wherever you go . Stupid talk, you bought property , so if you brought property , then you are Lord of the land abi? are you the only one buying land, Nonsense! |
Jagungidi:When you didn't want to be sensible and accept the fact. Saying rubbish that Native Americans are not Red Indians. The summary of the whole thing is that the Whites /Europeans invaded and dominated the aborigines ( the Native Americans) but things got better with fair laws. |
ginggerxy:Don't get it twisted that Yoruba didn't fight or resist the Fulani. Even it was difficult initially because it was the Yoruba man himself who invited the Fulani to come fight his brothers for monarchical reason, they still fought them in that olden days before they lost the throne to the Fulani. For your information , the Fulani even extended and tried to conquer the entire Southwest and install their Emirates before they were defeated and pushed back. Ogun jalunmi is your reference. And even in recent years OPC have been tormenting the Ilorin metropolis, but some of the Ilorin people themselves are the ones claiming they are Fulani, but in other parts of Kwara, there are Yoruba communities and towns , they are even the majority. Who told you if you sell land, you lose ownership ? get education, it depends on the agreement , land use act is the hand of the state government and revocation is their right depending on the issues that warrant it. And a land can be sold and stand to be revoked after a certain number of years based on what is on paper. You have to be enlightened. People want to help their indegenes to grow and not allow them to be relegated and you outsiders are lamenting, what's the problem!? Home is home , haba! |
Jagungidi:I agree with some of your points in that whites/European are strangers themselves and so they'll favour policy that will be in favour of strangers/Invaders/non indegenes. No state of origin but state of residence, even though there are laws for protection of the aborigines/indegenes.. But native Americans are also referred to as American Indians ,red Indians, Indians e.t.c and they are the indegenes, go and read your book and stop passing wrong information. |
Sermwell:Is a Yoruba land not a no man's land, the reason Yoruba there are lenient with themselves, it's rude for Intruders/outsiders to break in , wetin concern agbero with overload , ? you can only ask for considerations respectfully. |
mauchiz:Why is it your business? If two tribes men want to reason with themselves.. |
Jagungidi: Jagungidi:You are a silly being, an unwavering idiot , who are just being egoistic in Ignorance. How can you move against fact. Opinion is different from fact . Opinions may differ but fact is sacrosanct. Example , you must be foolish to say the current president of Nigeria is not Bola Tinubu. And equally foolish to say Alex Otti is not the governor of Abia state. Because the above are facts. But however anyone can have an opinion e g marrying a white lady is better than black lady vice versa. So it's absolutely false , to say native Americans. American Indians , Red Indians are not terms used for the aborigines. Which stupid lie are you telling? even if you find yourself in America today, you can aspire to become a governor and any child you give birth to over there can become president that's the law, does that make your children native Americans. Native Americans are the red Indians and not this senseless and baselees lies you are formulating, just to propagate false argument, what's the ego in agree to facts. Which yeye story is hidden, what have they done to red Indians that have not been done to blacks. Is it killing them and what not....you can even formulate an ugly imaginary stories to create a gory situation , the fact is that all these cruelty are not new, white supremacists did all these to other race/tribes. That was primitive era not now. There were periods blacks and other minorities could not vote, let alone one of them becoming the president (Obama). Evolution in laws and society overtime has been achieved. You can choose to be picking all the negatives story in the dark ages and ignore or be blind to the later modern and humane development, it's your bias. Even your fore fathers in your part of the country also had their cruel moment in the past/primitive era. If you say life the way it was is now the way it is, and nothing has changed, you are just being clever by half. Infact the red Indians still had their moment in killings the white settlers too by removing their scalps in demonstration of victory. So it was a battle and ugly scenario, but things have changed from what it used to be. There a whole lot of laws for the recognition and protection of aborigines, do your reading. |
JohnBullMySon:You can now say today that American belongs to this white Invaders/strangers because they were able to take another man's land after overcoming series of war of resistance and can now make laws that will favour all strangers since they are strangers themselves. Even if you travel to United States today and give birth there your son can become president while you can only become governor. So there policies will favour all incomers , since they are incomers /strangers themselves. Even though there are still laws in preference of aborigines ( after so many fights for it). This is what the indegenes are against. Some people like to claim ownership after accommodating them examples are Fulani in Ilorin. |
kcnwaigbo: kcnwaigbo:Our challenges and our difference are that we have several nations with regions or geo - political zones and we still have state of origin and not state of residence. State of residence we make us blend freely without any barrier otherwise our distinct identities are still pronounced. Also the whites came to United States, dislodged and dominated the land all over , so the issues of regions growing and maintaining their distinct identities became eroded. So there is no question of this is my region and that's is your region. No region or state can be called a state for white, black , Asians, Latinos, red Indians (with their varieties) e.t.c The tribes , races are all distributed across the states. But such is different in Nigeria, we still have distinct nations and their respective regions and they are cautious of this. Even in America , the American Indian (the indigenes) are given some privileges. But the question of tribalism and regional politics would have been more pronounced in America if whites had not come and dominated across board. The different regions with their respective varieties of Red Indians would have become pronounced without European dominating and dislodging all. So no Florida man can bar a Californian man from owing a land on what basis? Since there are no distinct ethnic groups to this states that can't be found elsewhere and white men , settlers are now the dominant ones everywhere, so regional politics as we have it here can happen on the basis of tribe. |
kcnwaigbo:More discoveries in Lagos and Ogun. |
Jagungidi: Jagungidi:First and foremost, don't oppose the notion that Red Indians/American Indian/Native American e.t.c are the aborigines. Secondly, I know about the cruelty of White supremacists/Europeans , the story and the history are not hidden and are well documented, infact you yourself can access some of them. The White supremacists/Europeans were brutal during expansionism period where they dominated the American Indians resisting their expansions across United States , their land taken , some of them were killed, e t.c Thirdly, just like abolition of slave trade, the story you made reference to is not what is obtainable today, that's what we are saying and the reason I made mention of 16th century. Laws have been modified several times to accommodate the interests of the indegenes amongst other modern and humane laws. |
Ttipsy:I am not, even though I don't make contributions based on being Yoruba or not Yoruba. Sorry for his abusive words then. |
Jeffy1206:Ogbeni! Who told you laws can't be made to address diversity within a state? the federal character that ensures that one person per state is given ministerial appointment across the country is a similar case, if not for that will Buhari not tilt the appointment badly in favour of the north? since so many of his non - federal - character appointment is one sided and they accused him of that, which he apologized for. "make it a law, it will run contrary of the constitution bla, bla, bla...if something is practised now and federal government has not moved against anybody, you are saying state can't make their laws. it's not all you do in your State Benue than you can do in Kano or Zamfara state, then you will cry to the Federal Government thay they don't allow you to eat publicly during fasting, take beer , sell this or that because it's in the constitution that you can do whatever you want to do in any part of the country as long as you are a Nigerian ok ; Your state Benue is being dominated by Tivs and other tribes are crying , may be sensible legislation will help put things in fairness for all tribes, fairness for all, and reduction in animosity and bloodshed. I don't know the reason for this apprehension, a state just want to make things more statutory for the benefits of it's indigenes and outsiders are worried, does it mean they will seize your bread? And I don't care if you are Igbo or from Benue (although there are indigenous Igbo in Benue), all I care for is the issue on ground and not about being Yoruba or not. |
Ttipsy:He made his point in California and Florida at least for a reason, and dumb is the best term to describe him, where you can make things better, no, it's bad, there is maturity in giving superior argument without an abuse(especially if he has not abused you.) |
cktheluckyman:What's nonsense this one is saying " cowardly hypocrites" you are putting me in position of lawmakers, we are discussing issues , we are telling you state have power to make laws and you are stupidly and erroneously putting matter outside their control in the matter, what's the issues in indegenes benefitting from their states , what's your headache in that! is it new? what is obtainable everywhere , even though no much noise about it. because this is Lagos, where you idiots call no man's land then it will be an issue now. |
Jeffy1206:Defacto, indigenes do enjoy some privileges in their different states compared to settlers as we speak. I don't think this will be different eventhough a lil bit of step up is what they want to do now , somewhat like iPhone 6 to iPhone 7, and everybody will know their place. As we speak, are there more Igbos in Lagos government Secretariat or any other civil services compared to Yoruba people, eventhough there are qualified and unemployed Igbos in Lagos (even though if it's by population proportionate allocation) and on a flip side are there more Yorubas in government Secretariat in awka or in other civil services , this little and other inequalities do occur everywhere. Lagos is just being talked about most because it welcomes everybody, people troop here per second and everything she does becomes headline. |
