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GOT 49, AND DATS ME REALLY |
Lyricalprince: did dy record financial acct nd comerce 4 u? Coz am a sci std nd dy gav me comerce nd acct A1 and i didnt do them durin examyeah,am also science and attempted the exam and got p8 in both, good for you, i guess those are bonuses for you |
i just check, its now on their site,i got english maths chemistry ict, the rest are p7 nd p8 |
thanks....but the results are not yet uploaded on their website right? |
Details on St. Paul who is the real founder of “Christianity” Paul who’s real name was Saul was born a Jew, and had adopted the Roman203 way of life. He was an avowed enemy of Jesus (pbuh) and his teachings. Some of the most significant facts as recorded by Christian Scholars are below. Any person seeking the truth has to compare the teachings of Jesus (pbuh) and that of Paul. TEACHINGS OF JESUS (PBUH) Jesus (pbuh) Practiced Sabbath on Saturday MARK 7:7- Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matt 15:9- But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matt 5: 17 Think not that I (Jesus (pbuh) ) am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matt 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father, which is in heaven. Matt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done 203 The Roman believed in many gods and goddesses. Paul adopted their beliefs and introduced the concept of 3 in 1. many wonderful works? Matt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matt 7:20. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. In any event, if there is any division between a Muslim and a Christian on the grounds of dogma, belief, ethics or morality, then the cause of such conflict could be traced to an utterance of Paul found in his books of Corinthians, Philippians, Galatians, Thessalonians, etc., in the Bible. As against the teachings of the Jesus (pbuh) that salvation only comes through keeping of the commandments (Mathew 19:16-17), Paul nails the law and the commandments to the cross (Colossians 2:14) and claims that salvation can only be obtained through the death and resurrection of Jesus (pbuh) Christ:- Refer to: 2 Timothy v. 8: “Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my (Paul’s) gospel”: This is indisputable proof that Paul taught this false doctrine that the Church has been preaching for centuries that has no evidence in the words of Jesus (pbuh). "If Christ be not risen from the dead, then our preaching is vain, and your faith is also vain." (1 Corinthians 15:14) According to St. Paul, there is nothing that Christianity can offer mankind, other than the blood and gore of Jesus (pbuh). If Jesus (pbuh) did NOT die, and he was NOT resurrected from the dead, then there can be NO salvation in Christianity! NO CRUCI-FIXTION — NO CHRISTIANITY "The death of Jesus on the cross is the centre of all Christian theology. All Christian statements about god, about creation, about sin and death have their focal point in the crucified Christ. All Christian statements about history, about the church, about faith and sanctification, about the future and about hope stem from the crucified Christ" Professor Jurgen Moltmann in his — "The Crucified God". Vatican Church follows Paul’s teachings Paul Changed Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday (1) Paul was not chosen as one of the disciples of Jesus (pbuh). (2) Paul introduced the concept of ‘son of God’. (Refer Acts 9, v. 20) whereas the foundation of belief of Jesus and Moses and all the Prophets is the belief in ONE GOD. Paul contradicts all the fundamental teachings of Jesus (pbuh). Gal 2:15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus (pbuh) Christ, even we have believed in Jesus (pbuh) Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 1 Cor 10:24 Let no man seek his own, but every man another’s wealth204. 1 Cor 10:25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake – Note: The words spoken by Jesus (pbuh) regarding the observation of the LAW OF MOSES is destroyed by Paul in its entirety. Jesus (pbuh) observed the Law as is recorded in many places of the Bible. Paul encourages people to steal others wealth in 1st Cor 10:24 when the Commandants prohibit such acts. Refer to more lies spoken by Paul in Acts 23:6, Acts 25:10-12, 2 Corinthians 11:6 and 11:8 The ‘crucifiction’ that was preached by Paul in I Corinthians has been proved false by the arguments and proofs from the Bible itself in Question number 54; so the belief of Christianity has been shattered as far as the myth of crucifixion and atonement of sins is concerned. So in reality there is no Christianity, as Jesus (pbuh) never preached Christianity, but rather the Law of Moses (pbuh) that Jesus (pbuh) adhered to. John 14:15 “If ye love me, keep my commandments” The one sin Allah will not forgive is that of associating partners with Him as mentioned in Al-Qur’aan chap 4 v 48: “Lo! Allah does not forgive that a partner should be ascribed to Him. He forgives (all) except that to whom He will. Whoso ascribes partners to Allah, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin.” Glorious Qur’aan 3:8 “Our Rabb! Cause not our hearts to stray after Thou has guided us, and bestow upon us mercy from Thy presence. Lo! Thou, only art the Bestower”. |
BY THE WAY NOBODY HAS ANSWERED MY QUESTION; WHO IS THE JESUS REFERRING TO IN JOHN16? |
italo: Dont digress!ITALO AND CO... AFTER DIGRESSING I CAME BACK TO YOUR QUESTION MIND YOU, THAT IS NOT THE ONLY VERSE WE BELIEVE, FOR INSTANCE WE IN THE VERSE WERE JESUS WAS REPORTED TO HAVE WORSHIPED GOD HOW MUSLIMS DO, AND SO ON, BUT WE DISBELIEVE IN ALL PAUL'S DOCTRINES THAT INCLUDES DIVINE SONSHIP OF JESUS,ORIGINAL SIN,BLOOD ATONEMENT,TRINITY ETC. I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE LIKE YOU, YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO, YET YOU STILL ARGUE. AND IF I KEEP ANSWERING YOU GUYS THIS ARGUMENT WILL NOT END. ANYWAY, THANKS TO THOSE WHO GAVE ME THE EXPLANATION I HUMBLY REQUESTED, I HOPE ALL THE CHRISTIANS HAVE SEEN HOW DISTURBING IT IS FOR MUSLIMS TO SEE PEOPLE QUOTING QUR'AN OUT OF CONTEXT, WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING, I DIDNT MISQUOTE BUT I ASKED FOR EXPLANATIONS. |
italo: Jonah (Yunus) 10:94, Late Meccan."If you (Muhammad) are in doubt regarding that which We have revealed to thee, ASK those who READ the book from before you..."... ITALO LET ME DIGRESS A LITTLE, WHY DID YOU SKIP THE VERSE BEFORE AND AFTER IT. INFACT THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THE VERSE,I WOULD NEVER HAVE SAW IT, SEE WHAT THE VERSE BEFORE IT SAYS; "We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had been granted to them, that they fell into schisms. Verily Allah will judge between them as to the schisms amongst them, on the Day of Judgment". PAUL CAUSED THE SCHISM, WITH HIS INVENTED DOCTRINES,FOR GOD TO USE THE WORD "SCHISM" IT MEANS THAT THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE IN THE CORRECT GUIDANCE OF THE ORIGINAL GOSPEL(INJEEL IN ARABIC). THE COMPLETE VERSE; "If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt". YOU SHOULD HAVE QUOTED IT OUT COMPLETELY IF YOU WERE TRUTHFUL TO YOUR SELF NOW TO YOUR QUESTION, MUHAMMAD (PBUH) WAS NOT DOUBTING, BUT GOD WAS TRYING TO CHALLENGE MUHAMMAD AND HIS FOLLOWERS WHO MAY HAVE LITTLE DOUBTS. AND WE ALL KNOW IT IS NORMAL IN HUMANS TO HAVE DOUBT TO SOME EXTENT, AND IF THE FOLLOWERS WOULD EVEN DARE TO ASK, THEY WOULD ASK THOSE ON TRUE GUIDANCE OF THE GOSPEL (INJEEL) AND TORAH, BECAUSE FOR GOD TO USE THE WORD "SCHISM" IN THE VERSE BEFORE THE ONE YOU QUOTE, IT MEANS THAT THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE IN THE CORRECT GUIDANCE OF THE ORIGINAL GOSPEL. SO THE BOOK THAT IS BEEN TALKED ABOUT SHOULD BE THE GOSPEL AND OTHER HOLY SCRIPTURES. [b]SO BROTHER BY QUOTING THAT VERSE IT MEANS THAT YOU BELIEVE GOD ACKNOWLEDGED THE GOSPEL IN THE QUR'AN, AND GOD IS CHALLENGING THE BELIEVERS NOT TO DOUBT THE REVELATION HE GAVE TO MUHAMMAD, AND ALSO FOR THEM (MUSLIMS) TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT GOD REVEALED OTHER HOLY SCRIPTURES[/b] IS THAT NOT NATURALLY LEADING TO ISLAM?
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THE ANSWERS I HAVE PROVIDED, REQUIRES COMMON SENSE TO UNDERSTAND THEM, I DONT KNOW WHY SOME PEOPLE HERE ARE STILL ARGUING, IF I SHOULD GIVE YOU ANSWERS TO YOUR NEW QUESTIONS I WILL STILL BE REPEATING MY SELF. SO READ THE PREVIOUS ANSWERS AV GIVEN CAREFULLY, AND OPEN YOUR MIND, AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, ALL PROPHETS FOLLOW SAME GOD, WITH ONE SAME MESSAGE BUT THROUGH DIFFERENT CHANNELS, MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY ARE THE INVENTED DOCTRINES BY PAUL, WHICH LEAD TO WHICH LEAD TO THE ALTERATION OF SOME VERSES TO SUPPORT HIS CLAIMS. IF YOU ARE STILL NOT CONVINCED LETS MEET ON FACEBOOK www.facebook.com/lilbukar FOR MORE COMPREHENSIVE DIALOGUE. |
thorpido: I asked you questions you failed to answer.You quoted John 16 and you admit that is the true word of God by Jesus.YEAH, YOUR SO CALLED TRANSLATORS OR INTERPRETERS OF THE BIBLE TRIED TWISTING THE VERSE,SO THAT IT WONT LOOK PLAINLY TO BE REFERRING TO MUHAMMAD (pbuh),(YOU KNOW WHAT IT WOULD DO TO THEIR BUSINESS) I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD ASK YOUR PEOPLE IN AUTHORITY, TO REDUCE THE DISTRIBUTION OF TRANSLATED BIBLE, BUT TO START TH DISTRIBUTION OF THE ORIGINAL ARAMAIC BIBLE, TO SEE THE NAME THAT WAS TRANSLATED TO THE COMFORTER), I MEAN CHRISTIANS SHOULD ALSO LEARN THE LANGUAGE OF THEIR BELOVED JESUS CHRIST (PBUH), JUST LIKE MUSLIMS EVEN NON-ARABS AROUND THE WORLD CAN READ THE LANGUAGE OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH), FOR BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE MESSAGE. THEIR ARE MANY VERSE CONCERNING THIS TOPIC WE ALL KNOW THAT THE BIBLE WAS NOT ORIGINALLY REVEALED IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE IF YOU DOUBT THAT VERSE, THEN PLEASE TELL ME WHO JESUS IS TALKING ABOUT.........PLEASE! THEN SECONDLY IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT JESUS SAID THEN SEE WHAT GOD TOLD MOSES. AND THESE ARE REFERENCES FROM YOUR OWN BIBLE "THE LORD SAID TO ME(MOSES):"WHAT THEY SAY IS GOOD. I WILL RAISE FOR THEM A PROPHET LIKE YOU FROM AMONG THEIR BROTHERS ; I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, AND HE WILL TELL THEM EVERYTHING I COMMAND HIM. IF ANYONE DOES NOT LISTEN TO MY WORDS THAT THE PROPHET SPEAK IN MY NAME, I MY SELF WILL CALL HIM TO ACCOUNT" (DEUTERONOMY 18:17-19) SO LETS ANALYSE THE VERSE: *FROM AMONG THEIR THEIR BROTHERS: THE PROPHET THAT GOD IS TALKING ABOUT CANNOT BE AN ISRAELITE PROPHET, BECAUSE THE VERSE DOES NOT SAY "FROM THEM" BUT IS SAYS FROM "AMONG THEIR BROTHERS", THE BROTHER OF THE ISRAELITE ARE NONE OTHER THAN THE ARABS WHO ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF ISHMAEL THE SON OF ABRAHAM AND THE BROTHER OF ISAAC. *LIKE YOU: THERE ARE MANY SIMILARITIES BETWEEN PROPHET MOSES(PBUH) AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD(PBUH): THEIR BIRTH-BOTH NORMAL BIRTH MARRIAGE/CHILDREN- THEY WERE BOTH MARRIED AND HAD CHILDREN. THEIR DEATH- THEY BOTH DIED NATURALLY AND WERE BURIED LAW- THEY BOTH BROUGHT NEW LAWS ACCEPTANCE BY THEIR PEOPLE- THEY WERE BOTH ACCEPTED BY THEIR PEOPLE JUST AS YOU HAVE SAID "THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH", THEIR IS NO NEED FOR TWISTING, IT ONLY REQUIRES HUMBLING OF THE HEART, AND REMOVING OF PRIDE AND ARROGANCE FROM THE HEART TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS TRUE . QUR'AN 17:081 "And say: "Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish." |
truthman2012: I cannot download. Why not copy and paste it here.HERE YOU ARE....................... HAS ANY VERSES OF THE QUR’AAN BEEN ABROGATED? Answer: The following verse of the Qur’aan is misunderstood by many to mean that some verses of the Qur’aan were abrogated. Chap 16: v.101: “And when We change a message for a message — and Allah knows best what He reveals…” It is not the abrogation of the Qur’aanic verses that is referred to here; but of the previous messages (scriptures) sent to former prophets. For a better understanding of the doctrine of abrogation, let us refer to Chap 2: v. 106 of the Glorious Qur’aan: “Whatever message We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or one like it. Knowest thou not that Allah is possessor of power over all things”? “And (Jesus) a verifier of that which is before me of the Torah, and I allow you part of that which was forbidden to you”; Qur’aan. Chapter 3 verse 50 One can clearly distinguish that in Chapter 3, verse 50, Jesus (pbuh) speaks of abrogation of verses / messages of the previously Revealed Scripture i.e. Torah and not of the Qur’aan. In the same manner the Glorious Qur’aan states that some ordinances in the previous scriptures i.e. the Torah and the Injeel were abrogated. Examples: (1) The Qur’aan places an upper limit of four wives that a man can marry with strict conditions. Previously there was no upper limit in the Bible – O.T. & N.T. (2) The eye for an eye Old Testament Law was now changed to the Qur’aanic Law that states that one can take retaliation for the same action, or overlook it and have patience, and this patience will be rewarded in the hereafter by Allah. (3) In the previous scriptures it was forbidden to take the booty / spoils of war. The booty was collected into a pile and was consumed by a bolt of fire from heaven. This was abrogated in the Qur’aan by allowing the booty to be divided amongst the soldiers of Islam: “And know that whatever you acquire in war, a fifth of it is for Allah and for the Messenger and for the near of kin and the the Jews refused to accept a new revelation which was not granted to an Israelite. This is stated in chap 2 vs. 90& 91. Their objection was: Why was another revelation containing new Commandments and Laws sent down to Muhammed? They are told that Allah chooses whom He pleases for His revelation and that if one law (Law that was given to Moses) was abrogated, one better than it was given through the Holy Prophet. It should be noted that the new law is here stated to be better than the one abrogated or like it. It is a fact that the law of the Qur’aan is decidedly superior to and more comprehensive than the previous laws in most respects, yet there are many points of likeness in the two. The Prophet’s portion was also used for the benefit of the poor Muslims. The words of one of his sayings are: this fifth is given back to you. Friend and foe admit that the Prophet led a life of the utmost simplicity alike. There is another significant fact stated in this verse: (a) Allah uses the terms Messenger and servant. There is no doubt that the verse corresponds to Isaiah 42:1- Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, (chosen as a messenger) in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. (Jesus (pbuh) did not come for the Gentiles, but Prophet Muhammed came for gentiles and non-gentiles). This is another prophecy of prophet Muhammed!(pbuh) orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, if you believe in Allah and in that which We revealed to Our servant, on the day of Discrimination, the day on which the two parties met. And Allah is Possessor of power over all things”. Glorious Qur’aan Chap 9 v. 41: “Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find mentioned in the Torah and the Gospel. He enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and prohibits for them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles, which were on them. So those who believe in him and honour him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him — these are the successful”. Q: 7:157 (4) Another example is that in the previous scriptures the prophets were not permitted to take prisoners of war but to kill them. This order was also abrogated in the Qur’aan and the Prophet of Islam was allowed to take prisoners and to: (a) ransom them for money, (b) or the second type of ransom was that those prisoners who could read and write bought their freedom by teaching the Muslims who could not read and write, (c) or to release them as the Prophet saw fit without any conditions. “O Prophet, say to those of the captives who are in your hands: If Allah knows anything good in your hearts, He will give you better than that which has been taken from you, and will forgive you. And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful”. Glorious Qur’aan. Chap 8 v.67 “It is not fit for a prophet to take captives unless he has fought and triumphed in the land. You desire the frail goods of this world, while Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allah is Mighty, Wise. Glorious Qur’aan Chapter 8 v. 70 - (5) In Exodus chapter 31 v. 14-16 it states the holiness of the Sabbath Day and that no work should be done. However, in the Glorious Qur’aan, Chapter 62 vs. 9-11, the Sabbath Day has been changed to Friday. Unlike the Jewish and the Christian Sabbaths, it is not necessarily a day of rest, but attendance at the Jumu‘ah prayers is obligatory, and as soon as the call to prayer is sounded, every Muslim is bound to leave business of every kind and immediately hasten to the mosque to join the congregational prayer. In fact, a Muslim, who is allowed to do his ordinary work on Friday, gives more time to his prayers than the majority of those who recognize a seventh day as their Sabbath. The new orders of Allah in the Glorious Qur’aan supersede the old orders of the previous Scriptures. 34 “Your Lord is only Allah; there is no God but He. He comprehends all things in (His) knowledge. Thus relate We to thee of the news of what has gone before. And indeed We have given thee a Reminder from Ourselves. Whoever turns away from it, he will surely bear a burden on the day of Resurrection,” Qur’aan Chap 20 vs. 98-100. All the above verses also substantiates the fact that the scripture (Al- Qur’aan) given to Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) is from the same source as Moses & Jesus (pbut), but the difference is that what was given to him is enhanced and superior! CLEAR!! AM SURE YOU'VE GOTTEN YOUR EXPLANATION!!!!! |
italo: To call a thief "thief" is never an insult.I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU STILL CANNOT COMPREHEND THE WHOLE ISSUE HERE, GOD HAS ASKED MUHAMMAD(PBUH) TO BELIEVE NOT JUST IN THE GOSPEL BUT ALL OTHER BOOKS THAT HE HIMSELF (GOD) GAVE OR REVEALED TO OTHER PROPHETS, AS I HAVE SAID INITIALLY, GOD ACKNOWLEDGES THE GOSPEL IN ITS ORIGINALITY, THAT IS WHAT GOD IS ALSO ASKING MUHAMMAD TO BELIEVE, BUT NOT THE INVENTED MATTERS IN THE BIBLE, BROTHER YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT TODAY'S BIBLE ARE IN TOTALITY GOD'S WORDS,YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN I DO FROM TRUE HISTORY THAT THE BIBLE WAS ACTUALLY REWRITTEN, IN THE PROCESS ALOT OF ADDITION AND OMITION WERE DONE, TO ENHANCE THE CLAIMS OF PAUL AM NOT TRYING TO FORCING ANYONE TO BELIEVE IN MUHAMMAD AS A PROPHET OR ACCEPT ISLAM IT IS WRONG ISLAMICALLY QUR'AN[002:256] "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand- hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things". BECAUSE ON THE LAST DAY EVERY NATION WILL BE RAISED BEHIND THEIR PROPHETS, BUT THE FEAR IS TO BE RAISED BEHIND YOUR PROPHET AND BE REJECTED, BECAUSE YOU BELIEVED IN WHAT THOSE BEFORE YOU HAS INVENTED. I REST MY CASE |
italo: @ lilbakar, I dont understand you and/or Muhammad. To answer your question, I dont believe in Muhammad and the Quran because based on the reasons below, I believe he is a fraud and an impostor.YOU ARE INSULTING AND ACCUSING MUHAMMAD OF WHAT YOU KNOW NOT, MAY GOD FORGIVE YOU, AS YOU OWN IT TO YOURSELF TO READ HIS LIFE, LEGACY SEE WHO HE WAS, AND THEN AFTER THAT I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND ANY WHERE IN HISTORY WHO'S LIFE AND LEGACY COMPARES TO MUHAMMAD (PBUH), AND I PROMISE YOU, YOU WILL NEVER FIND IT ..... THE MOST PROFOUND BIOGRAPHERS OF THIS AGE CAME TOGETHER TO DO THE SAME THING AM CHALLENGING YOU TO DO, AND THEY CAME UP WITH WHAT THEY CALLED "THE 100 MOST PROFOUND HUMAN BEINGS IN HISTORY",(ITS A BOOK) AND THEY MADE WHAT THEY CALL A CATEGORICAL CRITERIA, THE LIST OF PEOPLE INCLUDE JESUS CHRIST (PBUH), AND WHO DO THINK THEY CHOOSE AS NUMBER 1, IT WAS MUHAMMAD(PBUH), AND THE PRINCIPLE PERSON AMONG THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THAT RESEARCH WAS MICHEAL J. HURD, WHO WAS A CHRISTIAN, SAID IN TIMES MAGAZINE THAT "BASED ON THE CATEGORICAL CRITERIA WE SET,MUHAMMAD WAS THE MOST PROFOUND, HUMAN IN HISTORY, AND AS A CHRISTIAN MY SELF, I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED JESUS, BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS AND OBJECTIVITY THERE WERE 5 CATEGORY THAT JESUS DID NOT FULFILL IN OUR CRITERIA. 1-HE WAS NOT A FATHER,MUHAMMAD WAS. 2- HE WAS NOT A HUSBAND, MUHAMMAD WAS, 3-HE WAS NOT A STATES MAN,MUHAMMAD WAS. 4-HE DID NOT LEAVE A LEGACY THAT BECAME AFTER HIM A WORLD GOVERNMENT,BUT MUHAMMAD(PBUH) DID. MUHAMMAD IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PERFECT HUMAN SENT TO MANKIND TO TRY AND EMULATE. GO TO GOOGLE OR WIKIPEDIA AND PUNCH THE NAME "M U H A M M A D" AND TELL ME IF HE IS A FRAUD AND AN IMPOSTER!! THERE ARE MANY EVIDENCES TO PROVE HIS PROPHETHOOD OF MUHAMMAD EVEN FROM YOUR BIBLE, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE THE QUR'AN IS TOO ELOQUENT, TOO SUPERB, TOO GREAT, TOO FULL OF WISDOM, FOR ANY MAN,INFACT FOR AN UNLETTERED MAN TO JUST COOK UP. God said in the Quran q2:23 "And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a verse the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful". |
F00028: Jesus Christ, yes. the bible, no.READ FULLY MY PREVIOUS RESPONDS TO ITALO,(ESPECIALLY THE 5TH PARAGRAPH DOWNWARD,ON 11TH OF AUGUST) I MADE THAT CLEAR... |
italo: @ lilbakar, I dont understand you and/or Muhammad. To answer your question, I dont believe in Muhammad and the Quran because based on the reasons below, I believe he is a fraud and an impostor.OK LET ME MAKE IT CLEARER, WE BELIEVE IN THE GOSPEL THAT WAS ORIGINALLY GIVEN TO JESUS BY GOD, (AS YOU HAVE SAID IN HEBREW SCRIPTURE, IT WAS LATER REVEALED IN GREEK LANGUAGE), YES THE BIBLE HAS UNDERGONE SOME ALTERATION TO SUPPORT THE INVENTED DOCTRINES OF PAUL, AND THOSE WERE THE MAJOR CHANGES IN THE BIBLE, AN THOSE ARE THE MAJOR THINGS MUSLIMS TOTALLY DISBELIEVE IN, AND THROUGH OUT HISTORY IT HAS GRADUALLY UNDERGONE OTHER CHANGES TO SUITE THE DESIRE OF THE CHURCH, WHILE OTHER CHANGES WERE MADE IN THE PROCESS OF TRANSLATIONS TO OTHER LANGUAGES, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT ALL PARTS OF THE BIBLE HAS UNDERGONE ALTERATION........... AND THIS IS WHY MUSLIMS TODAY AND EVEN SOME CHRISTIANS THEMSELVES CANNOT GRADE TODAY'S BIBLE AS 100% AUTHENTIC. SO IN SUMMARY WE BELIEVE IN THE GOSPEL AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY REVEALED IN HEBREW SCRIPTURES (BEFORE PAUL CAME WITH HIS ASSUMPTIONS) MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN TODAY'S BIBLE TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, AS IT STILL CONTAINS SOME TRUE WORDS AND LIFE OF JESUS. MUSLIMS TOTALLY DISAGREE, DISAPPROVE, AND DISBELIEVE WITH WHAT THE FOUNDER OF MODERN CHRISTIANITY (PAUL) HAS INVENTED INTO IN THE BIBLE AT THE TIME OF MUHAMMAD THE GOSPEL HAS ALREADY BEEN ADULTERATED, BECAUSE GOD REVEALED A VERSE SAYING; IN QURAN4:171 "O People of the Book (CHRISTIANS)! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs". HOPE THAT CLARIFIES YOUR QUESTIONS.......... |
italo: Does the Quran encourage you to believe the Bible?YES, BECAUSE A MUSLIM IS NOT A MUSLIM UNTIL HE BELIEVES IN JESUS (PBUH) AND HIS BOOK, IN FACT A MUSLIM IS NOT A MUSLIM UNTIL HE BELIEVES IN ALL THE PROPHETS SENT BY GOD AND THEIR MESSAGES, ALL PROPHETS WERE SENT BY GOD WITH THE SAME MESSAGE BUT TO THEIR RESPECTIVE PEOPLE, TO WORSHIPING THE ONE TRUE GOD, HIM AND HIM ALONE WITHOUT ASSOCIATING PARTNERS WITH HIM. AND THIS CAN BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE AND ALL OTHER SCRIPTURE SENT BY GOD. "Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord".Mark 12:29. "I am Lord, and there is none else, there is no God besides me." Isaiah 45:5, ETC. JESUS (PBUH) ALSO PROPHESIED THE COMING OF ANOTHER PROPHET (MUHAMMAD) AND THIS CAN ALSO BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE (READ ABOVE, MY REPLY TO thorpido). WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THE SIMPLE FACT THAT ALL PROPHETS WERE OF THE SAME RELIGION BEACUSE THEY WERE SENT BY THE SAME GOD, THEY CANNOT BE CALLED "CHRISTIANS" BECAUSE THE WERE NOT YET FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST (ACCORDING TO THE DEFINITION OF CHRISTIAN), NOW ALL PROPHETS OF GOD WERE MUSLIMS, AND MUSLIM IS AN ARABIC WORD MEANING THE ONE WHO SUBMITS, SUBMITS HIM SELF TO THE WILL OF GOD, ALL PROPHETS WERE SUBMITTING AND OBEYING GOD. ALL PROPHETS FELL ON THEIR FACES (THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE BODY TO THE GROUND,FOR ONE WHO CREATED IT) AND PRAYED JUST LIKE MUSLIMS DO, INCLUDING JESUS(PBUH), MATT.26:39 "And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed". (I WILL LIKE YOU TO PRACTICALISE THIS AND TELL ME WHO PRAYS LIKE THAT....MUSLIMS OR CHRISTIANS?) SIMILARLY JOSHUA5:14 "And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship" NUMBERS20:6 "And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them". MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS NEVER HAD DIFFERENCES UNTIL THE SELF APPOINTED THIRTEENTH APOSTLE, WHO NEVER SAW, WALKED,OR TALKED TO JESUS WROTE BOOKS OF THE BIBLE MORE THAN ANY AUTHOR, WHILE JESUS DID NOT WRITE A SINGLE WORD (BECAUSE GOD GAVE HIM THE WHOLE GOSPEL AT ONCE), INVENTED THE DOCTRINE OF ORIGINAL SIN, BLOOD ATONEMENT AND DIVINE SONSHIP OF PROPHET JESUS(PBUH), WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FEW VERSES. ALL VERSE IN PAUL'S LETTERS ARE HIS OWN WORDS AND NOT THE WORDS OF PROPHET JESUS(PBUH) IITIMOTHY2:8 "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my(paul)gospel" YES, THE BIBLE HAS UNDOUBTEDLY UNDERGONE CHANGES, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MANY VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE AND MADE THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE BIBLE QUESTIONABLE, IF THE BIBLE WERE TO BE INTACT AS IT WERE REVEALED BY GOD TO JESUS (PBUH), IT WILL NATURALLY LEAD CHRISTIANS TO ISLAM, MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN TODAY'S BIBLES TO SOME CERTAIN DEGREE, BECAUSE NOT ALL VERSES OF TODAY'S BIBLE WERE CHANGED, THE QUR'AN HAS BEEN THE SAME FOR MORE THAN 1400YRS, QUR'AN IS SAME WHERE EVER YOU GO AROUND THE WORLD. BROTHERS AND SISTER, YOU CAN BE MY FRIEND ON FB, IF YOU STILL HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT ISLAM,SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A MORE PLEASANT DIALOGUE, ISLAM IS A FLAWLESS RELIGION,IT IS JUST MISUNDERSTANDING AMONGST NON-MUSLIMS AND EVEN SOME MUSLIMS OF TODAY THAT ATTRIBUTE FLAWS TO IT, BUT THE PROMISE OF GOD WILL PREVAIL ONE DAY, WE HAVE NO DIFFERENCES, OUR MAJOR DIFFERENCES STARTED WITH PAUL. JUST AS JESUS SAID IN THE BIBLE john16:7-15: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment; Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you". SO.... DO YOU BELIEVE IN MUHAMMAD AND THE QUR'AN?
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And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant, then produce a chapter like it, and call on your witnesses besides Allah if you are truthful. But if you do (it) not and never shall you do (it), then be on your guard against the fire of which men and stones are the fuel; it is prepared for the unbelievers. Q. 2:23-24. Or do they say: He has forged it? Say: Then bring a chapter like this and invite whom you can besides Allah, if you are truthful. Q. 10:38 Or, do they say: He has forged it. Say: Then bring ten forged chapters like it and call upon whom you can besides Allah, if you are truthful. S. 11:13 Say: If men and jinn should combine together to bring the like of this Quran (bimithlihi hatha al-Qurani), they could not bring the like of it, though some of them were aiders of others. S. 17:88 Or do they say: He has forged it. Nay! they do not believe. Then let them bring an announcement like it if they are truthful. S. 52:33-34 |
STOP BEEN BRAIN WASHED BY THE MEDIA OR FALSE TEACHERS
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I SEE THIS PLACE FULL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BRAIN WASHED!!!
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thorpido: Most of you muslims approach the bible with pride and arrogance in your hearts and that is why the scriptures are not revealed to you.RSPONSE; who's imagination?......that's not true at all, brother forget the so called flaws in the Qur'an in which infact their is none, the sweetness, beauty, flawlessness, wisdom, and eloquence in the Qur'an is mind blow, for an unlettered man to just cook up, infact God said in the Quran q2:23 "And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a verse the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful".
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italo: Tell me the Quran doesnt encourage killing and I'll ask you to explain Surah 9:5 to me.thank you brother.....Critics of Islam always quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriqs (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriqs of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriqs of Makkah to make amends, Otherwise a war was to take place. Allah had to give the permission for the muslims to fight, and defend themselves against the polytheist of maccah at that time, so that they (muslims) would not kill unjustly without a warrant. during the war, the rules and regulations were; *Only attacking soldiers should be targeted *No house/property or trees should be destroyed *Whenever the enemy seeks peace, no hesitations should be entertained, and this was explained in the next verse you quoted (Q9:6). These were among the standing rules, and of which the violation of any would amount to selfish murder of blatant disobedience to the prophet and God. Such verses talk more of peace and reconciliation than war, but they usually get quoted out of context. such verses are only applicable to legal war,and anything outside this would be considered as murder, this was stated in quran5 v.32; "whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely". We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: "Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them". Today if I say that the American President said, "Wherever you find Vietnamese, kill them" without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war. this is the same situation in q9:v5 and other verses The worse set of people are people who in turn don’t even misquote the Quran but look at the alleged attack by some so called Muslims and conclude that Islam is an anti-peace religion, their similitude is like that of a person who blames the car instead of a careless driver. If someone crashes in a brand new car with high tech specs, out of ignoring the rules of driving, do we blame the car or the driver? The driver, because the car is excellent but the drivers are not, People end up crashing in Islam because they don’t stick to the rules, and put the blame on Islam instead of the non-obedient Muslim Islam is perfect muslims aren't, an American who accepted islam years ago said; " i give thanks to God almighty for allowing me to meet Islam before meeting its people, if i had met the people before islam i would have gotten it all wrong", so lets all try to learn Islam from authentic teachers. |
italo: Look around the world and tell me who believes in hatred, division, killing, fire etc...Christians or Muslims? |
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i would be pleased if a Christians explains to us these verses stated below,because Muslims don't know any prophet of God who has come with such barbaric mission not even prophet Jesus(pbuh) himself who is alleged to have said; "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law"(Matt.10:34-35),kjv "I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law" (luke12:49-53)kjv[size=8pt][/size] "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple" "luke14:26" kjv what the Qur'an says about the mission of Jesus; and in their footsteps we sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the law that had come before him and we bestowed on him the gospel, therein was guidance and light (Qur'an5;46) then we sent after them our messengers,and we sent Jesus son of Mary and gave him the Injeel(Gospel), and placed compassion and mercy in the hearts of those who followed him according to the Qur'an prophet Jesus(pbuh)was sent as guidance and light for Israel, he came to bring peace and not kindle fire. prophet Jesus did not encourage his disciple to hate their parent but commanded them to be kind to them,and this is same to all prophets of God. |
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Rajosh: Mtchew. The difference is just on paper not in reality.yh but thiers something u need to knw... ISLAM IS PERFECT BUT THE MUSLIMS ARE NOT
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Dumkele_1: Pls pardon me o but i've always wanted to know why sex is the major reward that the quran or islamic texts promise muslims. Are they saying sex is the ultimate.i mean if 'jannah' which is our own 'eternity' is going to be forever,there should be more meaning/purpose to that existence than just sex.of course they will like the houris, but they are extra reward for men,because of the nature of their position,and for sure not all of them who kill themself for it get it,because most of them are transgressors,they do it out of ignorance or misunderstanding of the book.
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fellis: ^@lilbakar, Queen of paradise how? If all the Muslim women are going to queens that means their reward is nothing special. They still get the same husband they had on earth while their husbands get more wives.how is been a queen in paradise,and been superior to the houris not a special reward,remember she is superior in everything,please read my last post again,and carefully this time. its all about Quality and not Quantity. let me give u an example; i want a toy which i extremely love. my father gave me that one, and i am very happy with it, My brother wanted to have the same toy, but he got 70 toys which he didnt like. so who got more? my bro or me? my bro got more in quantity, but i got more in quality. at the end i am the happiest one as i am satisfied so it doesnt matter about the number of toys(huoris!). In paradise woman will not be less satisfied than man. The qur'an says in Surah An-Nisâ' (4):194: "And whoever does righteous good deeds, male or female, and is a true believer in the Oneness of Allâh, such will enter Paradise and not the least injustice, even to the size of aNaqîra (speck on the back of a datestone), will be done to them. this means that Allah will satisfy us with whatever we want, and not manipulate us. And our mind will not work same way in paradise like in this World, neither our feelings will be same like this world. Allah says in the Qur'an that in paradise is whatever the soul desires,not body desire but soul(imagine that),and in paradise the term dislike,unsatisied,uncontented,jelousy,hatred,slandering,backbitting,harsh words etc,all does not exist. and again Allah said in a hadithul qudsi that "what i have prepared for my servants in paradise is what the eyes have never seen nor the ears have ever heard,or the nose have ever peceived,or the minds have ever thought of, even to the least in paradise" so the whole thing about paradise is beyond our comprehension,what God has made known to us is that everything will be so fulfilling to everyone(male or female). AND CORNCERING HAVING THE SAME SPOUSE IN PARADISE,the prophet said that Allah will make us all to be youths of the age of 33yrs with bright faces like the moon,and very tall like Adam (AS) (90ft), and as beautiful as Yusuf (Joseph) so every one will be completely difrent.and our spouses will be absolutetly perfect,infact paradise as awhole is the hight of perfection. Having said that, the gretest reward for believers, men and women, in Jannah (Paradise) is not about spouses and sex,the greatest reward will be to view the Countenance (Appearance) of Allah (SWT). And for the believers there will be nothing more delightful than looking at Him (Allah) so please lets stop guessing about what will happen in paradise, Allah hasnt created our mind enough to understand how jannah(paradise) is.
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