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Lilbrown007:
I WATCHED A DOCUMENTARY ON DISCOVERY A MAN CREATED A MINI TIME TRAVEL MACHINES IT USES LASERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT HE WAS ABLE TO TRANSPORT MATTER BACK IN TIME BUT THE TIME INTERVAL.WAS SO SMALL IT ONLY WENT BACK IN TIME LIKE 0.000SEC DON'T KNOW HOW GENUIN THAT EXPERIMENT WAS SHA

I would love to see that documentary. Please, give me a link to it, if you can.

johnydon22:
By the way for time travel, let it be known that Time can go forward, slow down, almost stand still (almost) but never runs backwards.

So travelling back in time is more like practically improbable, time travel forward is theoretically plausible but backwards is not feasible.

More over it will literally spell disastrous effect..

If one can go forward, why not backward? That is a good question.


I think you are looking at time travel from an "interstellar" (the movie) perspective. It is more of "time dilation" which time is slower or faster in different areas and wormholes are used to traverse through time.


I understand your position on travelling backwards- it would be theoretically more difficult as it means a "reversal" of things that already happened while going forwards would just be going to a place that is yet to exist. Going to the future will have little benefit on the present even if you manage to change things in the future.


However, if you look at it from a bigger perspective, going forwards and backwards in time are both magical abilities- putting one as more fictional than the other would be like saying "Superman's laser eye is more practical than Sub Zero's ice cryomancing".



So, in short I am agreeing with you and disagreeing at the same time. You could be right or wrong- this is the problem with theoretical speculations, we wouldn't know until there is evidence.

Lilbrown007:
IT WONT BE YOUR GRAND FATHER U KILLED BUT SOME ONE WHO LOOKS JUST LIKE HIM WHY?? CAUSE U DIDNT ACTUALLY TRAVEL BACK IN TIME TO UR OWN UNIVERSE BUT TO ANOTHER ONE OF THE NUMEROUS PARALLEL UNIVERSE WELL THATS MY THOUGHT SHA

Yes, time travel opens the possibility of parallel universes.

I recommend watching "the flash". It deals with a lot of time travel issues.

freecocoa:
I guess you are a fan of logic, given the username.

I'm really starting to hate my username


Do you know how many religious people call me "illogicalboy" in response to my "blasphemous" posts? And the joke never gets old.

freecocoa:
Yea, well I'm interested in that and we all know that passion makes it easier.

True talk!

freecocoa:
That's nice.

I am actually already doing something by being a law abiding citizen and setting good examples where ever I find myself.

I also intend to set up an NGO on public health.

NGO on public health? That is great. It does sound like a lot of work but then, nothing good comes easy.

freecocoa:
Yes sir.

That is great. I am one too.

What are you doing to change Nigeria?

I'm planning to start a humanist organisation by 2017. Saving money actually

freecocoa:
Don't oh yea me, if you are going to be all judgy, .

I advocate for humanity.

Are you a secular humanist?

joseph1832:
Now how sure are we that you've not bEen corrupted by the system?

The thing is that I'm saving money and making connections for such a project. Change can not happen without money and power.

@ Rilwayne001, take your beef to another thread. Please.

joseph1832:
You know of any such men?

I know myself. And probably another guy.

joseph1832:
You should know: faith is always the believe in something, without the proof of data or evidence to back in up. I'm one who deal with facts, proof and evidence, thus, so far, from what I've seen in this country, that aint possible.

Oyedepo was and still is a money grumbler! His intent was never to make lives better but to become a religious bourgeois comprador, which he achieve by using religion.

I tell you, most humanist who wear the garb if humanist in Nigeria do so, with the aim of making money out of it, it is mostly for their own gain, not for the gain of others.

Tell me, why do you think Nigeria is now a money loving/worshipping society?

I'm talking about secular humanists and not fake azz humanitarians.

Also, you are right. The truth is that he who has not chopped will not help others to chop.


This is why we would have to gather STABLE men who are not in it for the money in such an organization.

joseph1832:
You would still exist because your grandfather's progenitor is still very much alive. Killing your grand father only mean everyone from your grand father's lineage will be eradicated.

Interesting. But have you asked yourself how it would work? If I killed my grandfather, would I and my brothers just disappear? poof!

Rilwayne001:
transgender? No. I don't mean it that way. I mean, a guy is behind that account and not a female. He is an imposter

Don't be fooled by that fake dp.

That booty is deceiving

wiegraf:
You've got experience with 'crawcraw infested deeks'?

joseph1832:
I'm not in support f criminalizing gay, heck, there are so many things I'm not in support of, but you don't see me coming on social media and shouting and shoving my opinions down peoples throat.

I see. That is a fair position then...

Rilwayne001:
that's not her..

She is a guy in case you don't know I guess you are new to this forum... Hehe

How do you know that she is a guy? Transgender?

How do you know

joseph1832:
Yea, I feel that way too, but still, will that leader even get there? That is the question, given that we now live in a country where if you're not christian, or moslem, you can never attain a particular stage in the affairs of statesmanship.

Hmm, I wouln't know about the above, but what I do know is that our institutions built to fight these sort of things have been so very ineffective to the point it has been taken over by tribalism and religious sentiment.

You gotta have faith!

We can get there but it will take nothing short of a revolution. Yes, a revolution but not a voilent one. It will take a lot of hardwork and sweat

If we humanists, activists, skeptics etc start an organisation and then grow it into a political party.........................

Oyedepo started one day and now, he has over 3 million followers as members of his church. I believe humanists can do better

joseph1832:
It is just too complicated bro.


Definitely, you'd cease to exist. Without your grandfather, there can be no you. That's simple logic.

The day man invents a time machine, that's the day man will attain godlike powers, and believe me, nature has its way of dealing with humans who tend to mess with what they shouldn't be messing with.

Yes, you are right! An ability to time travel would be a god-like power.


As for going to the past and killing my grandfather, the logic is not so simple- that is why it is a logical paradox.

Think about three other logical possibilities.

1) What if I travel to a time before my grandfather was born? I would still exist, right? What is now the difference between killing my father and going back to a time before he was born since he wouldn't exist in both scenarios?

2) What if there are multiple future timelines as a result of killing my grandfather? What if I then create two futures? One future where I exist and another future where I don't exist because my grandfather is dead? Parallel universes?

3) What if I kill my grandfather for fun and then, my brother goes back in time just at the moment I was about to kill my grandfather then, he stops me from doing the murder?


Time travel logic is crazy! Only true philosophers can handle it.




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joseph1832:
Oh yea? So you tell me what you advocate for? Lemme know your stand now.

Please enlighten me.

Wait, are you honestly in support of criminalizing gays? What purpose does that serve?

joseph1832:
I'm sure you heard how most northern senators reacted when a motion was moved to curb the number of children a couple is allowed to have? They rose up in defiance and shouted that their religion is being attacked.

When you have people who still think like this, the move to tell a couple how many kids they should have will be dead on arrival.

I used to be a pacifist but the more I look at it, I tend to believe that we need a strong leader that would treat some of these northerners with an iron hand.

The only way one can stop this boko haram and fulani herdsmen is with force. One can not reason with madness. What we should do is install secular muslim governors in the north that will fight tooth and nail against extremism. A "FASHOLA" kind of muslim that knows how to relate to christians and non-muslims

joseph1832:
Do you honestly believe Time Travel is possible?

Anything is possible. However, with the technology we have now, I don't think it is possible.


What intrigues me about time travel is its paradoxes and its possibilities.


For instance, if I go back in time and kill my grandfather, would I cease to exist in the present?

A dangerous possibility with time travel for Kingebukasblog is that one could go back in time and kidnap Jesus as a boy before he could start the christian religion.


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swaggzo:

I DON'T IN ANYWAY INTERFERE WITH THE EXISTENCE OR ACTIVITIES OF ANYONE... WHY PUT A SOUL TO DEATH FOR MAKING A SIMPLE CHOICE, WHILE THE REAL CRIMINALS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE JAILED OR STONNED PARADE THEMSELVES IN UNIFORMS OF PASTORS AND POLITICIANS??

I feel you. Personally, I don't believe in invading into people's private relationship. What matters is consent. If two consenting adults agree to have a relationship, wetin concern me?

14 years jail sentence is rubbish.

KingEbukasBlog:
Thanks bro for the invite . Not sure about the ban but I believe that the marriage counselling committee in churches should handle the aspect of family planning not really the pastors . Books regarding family planning should also be recommended for couples who are going into marriage .

The onus should not only be on the religious institution . We should start from the young ones in secondary schools , inculcate in them the need to engage in family planning .

The government could enforce a law like they did in China to control the number of children a married couple should have .

Any of the above three is an ideal solution to Nigeria's overpopulation problems . The third is the most effective

Miracles do happen! I can't believe I agree with you. I agree with you so much that I have nothing more to add.

I sha have more questions for you. If you are ready for them, say so.

freecocoa:
Patiently awaiting Ebuka's response and I am all for banning anything religious.

They have done enough already.

I understand that feeling.

swaggzo:

FROM BIRTH. ...TILL DEATH.

lol.....interesting. So how do you manage with the 14 years jail sentence for being gay?

freecocoa:
We are not fighting na Oga, we are all still learning.

1. I don't quite follow when you say step outside yourself and present your body(if showing yourself should be used literally), your body is a part of yourself, innit?


2. True.

3. My bad.


Remember I said "looking for someone"isn't wrong but that it is better to use "search for" if you aren't looking at a particular place.

checkout this thread https://www.nairaland.com/3083179/thread-nigerian-secular-philosophy

swaggzo:
BRACE YOURSELVES, THE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE COMING!

Bros, calm down and speak your mind. Are you still gay btw?

Born2Freak:
you like?

babes, bootyful bountiful blessing are following your behind

Born2Freak:
This thread is a great idea!

Erm....ehem.....is that you in your profile pic?

Born2Freak:
This thread is a great idea! I didn't feel the other thread as some people were claiming landlord there. I see myself as a secular person. Maybe not an atheist but not religious either.

As for your question, I think that family planning should be taught as a public service message in Nigeria. We should do more about family planning becausetoo many people in poverty are having 6-10 children that they can't take care of. I am not sure about banning pastors, maybe kingebukasblog can discuss more on that. Isn't that why you asked him?

That is the problem. Churches and mosques can reach Nigerians far and wide in millions. They have a powerful voice and I believe that they shouldn't be spouting ignorance.

I believe in religious freedom and freedom of expression but it is not acceptable to yell "fire" in a crowded room.

Nigeria is overpopulated and we have religious houses saying "say no to condoms" or "be fruitful and multiply".